Harder redhat problems -should- be able to be easily fixed. The underlying system and software is the same. The only time you'll run into problems is when you get non-standard distributor gunk clogging the workings. That, and distros like redhat (or their users) are infamous for just doing the "install everything" option. That's a headache beyond headaches. Then you run into some really messed up situations that are almost impossible to support, such as redundant config files and one version of software somehow managing to run in parallel with a later version. (saw this myself. redhat system w/ redhat's apache 1 rpms installed, while someone had dropped in apache 2 at/home/apache/long-path-name/ - and then there were lib, bin, etc/ and such dirs - what a mess. no, it wasn't chrooted.)
BTW - debian isn't a zealot distro. It's still slackware, and in some cases gentoo. Zealotry tends to imply a lack of foundation: in the case of debian, this is not true. most debian users boast it's ease of maintanance. if you've used debian, and then an rpm based distro, you'll know what I mean. there's a world of difference.
Not sure about anyone else out there, but when I support a linux machine beyond the simplest procedural things (check here, then check here, etc.), I need to at least have a shell. There are simply some things that don't occur often enough to have an indepth recollection of, and a visual reminder is helpful.
When someone pays for support, what they're paying for is expertise more than anything. They want their problems fixed, and quickly. Usually it involves simply installing someone else's fix, on occasion it means fixing it yourself.
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why so many of us use debian on our servers. Sure, the software is 4 years old - but it isn't a headache to support. It doesn't need upgrades, so none are made unless there's a security problem or a bugfix.
(I'm talking about debian stable, btw)
On the other hand, I think it's fairly dastardly and unsportsman-like for RedHat to drop support for their older products. Granted, there's a lot of stuff there to support - so why not weed out non-critical applications from the list of "supportable installations"? apache, sql, and other "enterprise-class" software?
It seems to be a reoccuring trend in the industry that a game company that produces good, solid - but very genre specific - games will get bought out after one or two relatively good titles. Then the developers get stuck working at a faster pace on projects which less of their vision is able to go into, and the predicament snowballs.
I've seen way too many good studios go downhill after a large, kickass release, only to disappoint with sequels because their better employees have left. Activision's Mechwarrior series is a good example of this: after Mechwarrior 2's line of games, MS bought 'em out. Now, Mechwarrior isn't even entertaining. Currently, Mech3 and Mech4 are sad mimics. While they have better graphics, their gameplay is stunted due to poor insight into how the game dynamics work, and other things of that nature. Story isn't even there, and the in-game audio is anything but satisfactory. Mech2's stuff, on the other hand, had the opposite of all that I complain about.
Off the top of my head, two more developer studios that snowballed after a couple great runs were Westwood, Blizzard and Interplay.
Blizzard kicked ass with Warcraft through Starcraft, and with Diablo 1 and 2 (so I hear, I'd rather not waste my time with such impersonal RPGs - the real thing is better. I hear single player was good, though.). Now, look at them. Their latest release, War3, sucked major goat scrotum. I hear it's because it wasn't developed by the same folks as the previous RTS releases.
Westwood came out swinging fairly strong... and then did nothing. Command and Conquer was a great game, and Red Alert was pretty fun too. But their games have done nothing but improve since then - in graphic quality. And that's about it. They've got nearly the same units, and the same AI, in almost every single game. Don't even start talking about Renegade. Urg.
Interplay created a cult following with Descent and Descent II. Descent III wasn't much of anything special - it didn't improve upon II at all, and didn't offer much in terms of real gameplay value. Sequels can only go so far without new concepts and gameplay-types interjected. A better multiplayer existence would have helped.
Considering that SUVs - really can't drive "off-road" (they can manage dirt roads and back roads OK, and flat field driving - are not as off-road as a pickup (which isn't all that great either, when it comes down to it)
I'm guessing that this will: - not fly very well in it's equivilant to "off-road mode", occasionally "getting stuck" (IE, falling out of the sky) - not compare well to the slightly capable small, single-prop airplanes, at an inflated cost
This isn't a problem. A kernel is a kernel, not a complete OS installation. If 2.6 doesn't work dandy, people can (freely) hop back to 2.4 until 2.6 is solidified, even if it has "gone gold".
This doesn't even begin to sound like a problem. They'll be on 2.6 soon enough - whether it's a "tried platform" sooner or later.
Everything this guy has to say is invalidated by the fact that he runs a company that offers full-fledged consulting services to - you guessed it - other companies!
This is like a Ford exec writing about how Chevy sucks. Taken with a grain of salt, it is.
The fact that this is going to court doesn't validate the GPL. It's a civil suit over IBM contract violantion, nothing more. Any effect it has on the GPL's general social standing is secondhand.
That girls = evil bit... I knew a girl once that disproved it mathamatically. I can't recall, or figure out, how she did it, though - and it really pisses me off! Any ideas?
You obviously missed the obviousness of the fact that I do not view porn with such vapid consumption as you appear to.
The reality is that very few women over 30 are attractive, particularly if they've had a kid or two (generally). Most women don't take care of themselves. It's a rare woman over 30 that would fall into those categories, let alone some webcam girl that wasn't terribly attractive in the first place.
I remember when the K6 first came out. Intel folks (fans and marketing) would claim that it would cause binary execution compatability problems. I never once had any such problems, either. I suspect that the majority of actual stability problems with K6-based systems was the result of bad chipsets or hardware failures. Windows surely couldn't have been at fault, either. Everyone knows that Windows - 95a in particular - were rock solid.:-P
After all, as long as AMD implimented the x86 instructions as per the standard, everything would be OK. We (being consumers in general) know that now, due to the plethora of different x86 processor implimentations: AMD's 32 bit varieties, mobile, opteron; intel's itanium, P4, P3, P-M, P3-M; transmeta's crusoe; via's C2 and C3 processors. They all work just fine.:)
That extra 200$ is better spent on a faster video card than on 25% clock speed increase, when video cards can be highly taxed by newer games nowadays. Find the CPU sweet spot (best price/performance ratio) and get a good video card.
Not what I do, buy I know those that do.
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In other news, Michael Jackson filed with the California Supreme Court, requesting that his persecutor find evidence of innocience. News at 11.
I suspect it has something to do with the fact that it's been, well, 7 years. She undoubtedly started past the age of 18, so at the very least, she's 25. More likely, she's closer to 30. What'd you expect, an aging woman to display her body indefinately? I think not.
When was the last time you heard of a 30-year-old porn star? That's functionally what she is, though she doesn't make a habit of actively showing her body, and is more actively showing her mind - pr0n for geeks, I guess. She actively pimps the image of her body and life.
SCO cannot get away with this bull. SCO will not get away with this bull.
I couldn't resist.:)
False Claims and Shill (an original parody, thank you very much!)... Ok, slashdot wouldn't take the post. "Too few characters per line". So, here's a link to my journal. No need to slashdot my own server.:)
I wonder if this might be grounds for spamhaus to file a civil suit against microsoft for producing products that are allowing their competitors easy access to illigally take them out of business.
Spot on. "Democracy" or any other form of government means nothing, ultimately. The system will eventually work it's way out of the hands of the people through entropy.
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Oh man, this is quite a bad turn of events! ... for gun owners.
Now gun owners get the bad publicity and rep of the RIAA via remote association.
Harder redhat problems -should- be able to be easily fixed. The underlying system and software is the same. The only time you'll run into problems is when you get non-standard distributor gunk clogging the workings. That, and distros like redhat (or their users) are infamous for just doing the "install everything" option. That's a headache beyond headaches. Then you run into some really messed up situations that are almost impossible to support, such as redundant config files and one version of software somehow managing to run in parallel with a later version. (saw this myself. redhat system w/ redhat's apache 1 rpms installed, while someone had dropped in apache 2 at /home/apache/long-path-name/ - and then there were lib, bin, etc/ and such dirs - what a mess. no, it wasn't chrooted.)
BTW - debian isn't a zealot distro. It's still slackware, and in some cases gentoo. Zealotry tends to imply a lack of foundation: in the case of debian, this is not true. most debian users boast it's ease of maintanance. if you've used debian, and then an rpm based distro, you'll know what I mean. there's a world of difference.
Not sure about anyone else out there, but when I support a linux machine beyond the simplest procedural things (check here, then check here, etc.), I need to at least have a shell. There are simply some things that don't occur often enough to have an indepth recollection of, and a visual reminder is helpful.
When someone pays for support, what they're paying for is expertise more than anything. They want their problems fixed, and quickly. Usually it involves simply installing someone else's fix, on occasion it means fixing it yourself.
Here's your support.
Seriously, though. There's no reason to use Windows 9x anymore except in very rare, special (in that warm, "special student" kind of way) scenarios.
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why so many of us use debian on our servers. Sure, the software is 4 years old - but it isn't a headache to support. It doesn't need upgrades, so none are made unless there's a security problem or a bugfix.
(I'm talking about debian stable, btw)
On the other hand, I think it's fairly dastardly and unsportsman-like for RedHat to drop support for their older products. Granted, there's a lot of stuff there to support - so why not weed out non-critical applications from the list of "supportable installations"? apache, sql, and other "enterprise-class" software?
It seems to be a reoccuring trend in the industry that a game company that produces good, solid - but very genre specific - games will get bought out after one or two relatively good titles. Then the developers get stuck working at a faster pace on projects which less of their vision is able to go into, and the predicament snowballs.
I've seen way too many good studios go downhill after a large, kickass release, only to disappoint with sequels because their better employees have left. Activision's Mechwarrior series is a good example of this: after Mechwarrior 2's line of games, MS bought 'em out. Now, Mechwarrior isn't even entertaining. Currently, Mech3 and Mech4 are sad mimics. While they have better graphics, their gameplay is stunted due to poor insight into how the game dynamics work, and other things of that nature. Story isn't even there, and the in-game audio is anything but satisfactory. Mech2's stuff, on the other hand, had the opposite of all that I complain about.
Off the top of my head, two more developer studios that snowballed after a couple great runs were Westwood, Blizzard and Interplay.
Blizzard kicked ass with Warcraft through Starcraft, and with Diablo 1 and 2 (so I hear, I'd rather not waste my time with such impersonal RPGs - the real thing is better. I hear single player was good, though.). Now, look at them. Their latest release, War3, sucked major goat scrotum. I hear it's because it wasn't developed by the same folks as the previous RTS releases.
Westwood came out swinging fairly strong... and then did nothing. Command and Conquer was a great game, and Red Alert was pretty fun too. But their games have done nothing but improve since then - in graphic quality. And that's about it. They've got nearly the same units, and the same AI, in almost every single game. Don't even start talking about Renegade. Urg.
Interplay created a cult following with Descent and Descent II. Descent III wasn't much of anything special - it didn't improve upon II at all, and didn't offer much in terms of real gameplay value. Sequels can only go so far without new concepts and gameplay-types interjected. A better multiplayer existence would have helped.
Don't worry, most of us do.
It might have something to do with the fact that its developers all use emacs, and that little flaw has worked its way into dselect.
I've found dselect is largely broken and will futz up your dependencies, etc. fairly quickly. Straight apt-get for me.
Here's the link to building anaconda-based debian ISO images.
Finally a quick, easy way to remaster debian to hand out to friends.
hrm. where can I get one of those with a military tactical overlay? :) Ala "Command and Conquer"
Considering that SUVs
- really can't drive "off-road" (they can manage dirt roads and back roads OK, and flat field driving - are not as off-road as a pickup (which isn't all that great either, when it comes down to it)
I'm guessing that this will:
- not fly very well in it's equivilant to "off-road mode", occasionally "getting stuck" (IE, falling out of the sky)
- not compare well to the slightly capable small, single-prop airplanes, at an inflated cost
This isn't a problem. A kernel is a kernel, not a complete OS installation. If 2.6 doesn't work dandy, people can (freely) hop back to 2.4 until 2.6 is solidified, even if it has "gone gold".
This doesn't even begin to sound like a problem. They'll be on 2.6 soon enough - whether it's a "tried platform" sooner or later.
Everything this guy has to say is invalidated by the fact that he runs a company that offers full-fledged consulting services to - you guessed it - other companies!
This is like a Ford exec writing about how Chevy sucks. Taken with a grain of salt, it is.
Er, "rushambo" (or some other -english- variant of the word) long predates South Park.
The fact that this is going to court doesn't validate the GPL. It's a civil suit over IBM contract violantion, nothing more. Any effect it has on the GPL's general social standing is secondhand.
Generally it's the good guy that gets to ride off into the sunset. You must not be terribly familiar with the way we do things out here in the West.
SCO is more apt to be shot dead like the dogs that they are, only for their carcasses to rot in the street, and for children to mock their dead forms.
That girls = evil bit... I knew a girl once that disproved it mathamatically. I can't recall, or figure out, how she did it, though - and it really pisses me off! Any ideas?
You obviously missed the obviousness of the fact that I do not view porn with such vapid consumption as you appear to.
The reality is that very few women over 30 are attractive, particularly if they've had a kid or two (generally). Most women don't take care of themselves. It's a rare woman over 30 that would fall into those categories, let alone some webcam girl that wasn't terribly attractive in the first place.
I remember when the K6 first came out. Intel folks (fans and marketing) would claim that it would cause binary execution compatability problems. I never once had any such problems, either. I suspect that the majority of actual stability problems with K6-based systems was the result of bad chipsets or hardware failures. Windows surely couldn't have been at fault, either. Everyone knows that Windows - 95a in particular - were rock solid. :-P
:)
After all, as long as AMD implimented the x86 instructions as per the standard, everything would be OK. We (being consumers in general) know that now, due to the plethora of different x86 processor implimentations: AMD's 32 bit varieties, mobile, opteron; intel's itanium, P4, P3, P-M, P3-M; transmeta's crusoe; via's C2 and C3 processors. They all work just fine.
If you're a budget gamer, sure.
That extra 200$ is better spent on a faster video card than on 25% clock speed increase, when video cards can be highly taxed by newer games nowadays. Find the CPU sweet spot (best price/performance ratio) and get a good video card.
Not what I do, buy I know those that do.
In other news, Michael Jackson filed with the California Supreme Court, requesting that his persecutor find evidence of innocience. News at 11.
I suspect it has something to do with the fact that it's been, well, 7 years. She undoubtedly started past the age of 18, so at the very least, she's 25. More likely, she's closer to 30. What'd you expect, an aging woman to display her body indefinately? I think not.
When was the last time you heard of a 30-year-old porn star? That's functionally what she is, though she doesn't make a habit of actively showing her body, and is more actively showing her mind - pr0n for geeks, I guess. She actively pimps the image of her body and life.
SCO cannot get away with this bull. SCO will not get away with this bull.
:)
... Ok, slashdot wouldn't take the post. "Too few characters per line". So, here's a link to my journal. No need to slashdot my own server. :)
I couldn't resist.
False Claims and Shill
(an original parody, thank you very much!)
Erm, hasn't FAT been around longer than MS? Surely it's not their own invention.
I wonder if this might be grounds for spamhaus to file a civil suit against microsoft for producing products that are allowing their competitors easy access to illigally take them out of business.
Spot on. "Democracy" or any other form of government means nothing, ultimately. The system will eventually work it's way out of the hands of the people through entropy.