[By all means correct me if i'm wrong on any of this...]
Well if i'm not mistaken, didn't an earlier/. story, or possibly a story somewhere else, quote that the Indian government was embracing Linux because of ability to access some portion of the networking code that they couldn't access in windows because of its closed nature?
Appears to be just another Salvo in Operation Vindaloo (tm) (Bills wooing away of Indian developers from non MS projects...or attempt at any rate). First he donates a massive amount of money to fight AIDS while at the same time offering to give away windows (or was that sell at a reduced cost). Now, its sharing source code. Anyone want to place bets on what hes going to do next?
...where i work spam is a major problem. YET, the lawyers i work for, DONT want their email filtered at all. Can you believe that? They're afraid that some important communication will be caught and they'll look bad.
Ok, while Firefly may have had holes here and there big enough to build a Deathstar in, it was different. The blending of Western with Scifi was handled rather nicely. And so what if the ship was a little odd looking. I will miss the show because it was something different than the rather formulaic Star Trek Epics. Just my 2cents. This just means that I'll be heading back to cable TV on Friday nights.
LOL....oh thats about every software company under the sun....antivirus vendors....basically anything you download a demo for and are foolish enough to give them correct contact information (when you dont have to).
>>A choice quote: "We are a poor country. We >>cannot develop operating systems and platforms >>on our own."
Oh come on now, I know India cant be that bad off. Its not like India doesn't have loads of talent, look how fast it Inidans get snapped up (well relatively fast) by corps here in the US.
But as others have said it may just be lip service. Hey if I was the leader of a country and someone donated as much money as Bill did to fight AIDS I'd say just about anything.
Well.... 1) Export the exchange directory so you have a list of all the mailboxes you need. 2) You could write a script to parse the file and create user accounts on the Unix box
3) It would probably be best if you stuck with the Outlook client (unless you just have to switch), so get Exmerge and export everyones mailbox to PST files and give to them. Those will become the default delivery point (in Outlook) for incomming email.
I'm not sure how you'd handle passwords, etc, unless theres some way you can authenticate against NT (or whatever MS OS you are using).
While this is an interesting development, i'm sure its not really a big surprise to the OS community at large. Assuming this attempt by MS to freeze OS out of the picture succeeds, what then of linux?
I've been tinkering with linux for approximately 8+ years, nothing major. I've always been of the mind that linux has, with some notable exceptions (Apache for one), been playing catch up with MS. Whenever a new feature is released in Windows, OS follows not far behind with an implementation. It appears, at times that MS's progress is driving OS's progress. I'm not saying this is wrong, after all, what other way is there to stay compatible? However, once frozen out, will OS be able to keep linux as robust and dynamic as it has been? Of course there will be those that ignore the license all together and do their own thing, but we cant all do that. As others have pointed out, legal disputes are costly and MS has effectively bottomless coffers.
I'm interested in hearing any comments on this. I'm not looking to be flamed so if you are gearing, safe the butane.
Hmmm...well i'm 33 and...well yeah i still care. If i didn't like (love) Sci Fi, i probably wouldn't give a rats ass...probably wouldn't even know about this. THen again, you don't have to be an SF fan to get a kick out of that title.(Clones indeed....[snicker]) And yes i was one of those folks that saw Epi I at 12am on the first day it came out. Why, you ask? Why not, i say.
Since i've started playing with linux (1992 or so) i've brought a number of distributions over the years, usually when a new kernel came out, etc. Within the last 5 or so years, as my home connectivity and work connectivity have gotten better, have i started to download. Last 3 distributions i've gotten were downloaded. Oddly enough, even though i'm not a hardcore linux user, i don't feel a loss like i do when buying MS's product even once. Not sure why that is.
Certainly it could have an impact. MS has got to be one of the most powerful corporate entities on the planet. When MS has a bad day so does the stock market (theres something very wrong that this is the case). Now imagine this monster of a company, goes to some folks at capital hill and says, if you don't invalidate this GPL thing we are going to have some really bad days.
This is probably a bit sensationalist but in essence, if Microsoft were to throw its weight around, in this era of favorable political winds they could do some serious damage to the GPL. As others have pointed out, the GPL has yet to be tested in court. And even if the GPL wins out, MS has essentially bottomless pockets for their legal department.
On the same topic (LEDs) here is a site that was (to me) pretty impressive. Lots of LED info if you are into that sort of thing. And this guy also evaluates flashlight....LEDs in particular:)
RE: DMCA Once again, indivuals that don't understand are making policy. Sad
RE: DeCSS I have 3 computers in my home. Two run linux at least 50% of the time. Now I know someone will say, " use windows if you want view DVDs", well I can make it simpler. Thats 3 DVD drives that I will not be buying. And I had put aside money for 2 DVD drives when I begin upgrading my home machines next month. Unless I need one I won't be buying one.
I've read the thread so far regarding this legal action and the consequences will probably shock the lawyers that brought on this action.
The one thing they are trying to prevent (distribution of the DeCSS source code) is going to happen anyway, probably to a wider range of people than it would've orginally.
Another trend in this thread that i find amussing is the whining of some that the DeCSS folks are pirates. Does this mean that the Linux community is supposed to sit on its hands and wait for someone to decide that its time to support Linux with in their DVD products? I'm not a big time Linux Guru but I know that that isn't how Linux got where it is today. Furthermore, the software market is alive and well despite piracy, the Video Cassette market is alive and well, the Compact disk market is alive and well. So much for the rumors that DeCSS is going to kill the DVD market.
A suggestion to the DeCSS authors. While I know it doesn't sit well with the OpenSource philosopy, why not incorporate. Yeah, you'll have to distribute binaries for awhile but hey, at some point declare the source open and let the code go free.
Now isn't that cute. A big time executive resorting to name calling. Sounds rather pathetic to me. That was really uncalled for. If a person in his position can't express himself better than that....well.....need I say more?
Right you are, movies have been bootlegged this way for almost forever.
I hear Japan is extremely corrupt with respect to bootlegging. Same goes with the console games. I think Canada has similar problems (if you consider that a problem).:)
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Ok this may be a stupid question, but doesn't this violate that DMCA thingy that everyone is all concerned about? Just a thought.
-Majestix-
[By all means correct me if i'm wrong on any of this...]
/. story, or possibly a story somewhere else, quote that the Indian government was embracing Linux because of ability to access some portion of the networking code that they couldn't access in windows because of its closed nature?
Well if i'm not mistaken, didn't an earlier
Appears to be just another Salvo in Operation Vindaloo (tm) (Bills wooing away of Indian developers from non MS projects...or attempt at any rate). First he donates a massive amount of money to fight AIDS while at the same time offering to give away windows (or was that sell at a reduced cost). Now, its sharing source code. Anyone want to place bets on what hes going to do next?
...where i work spam is a major problem. YET, the lawyers i work for, DONT want their email filtered at all. Can you believe that? They're afraid that some important communication will be caught and they'll look bad.
Ok, while Firefly may have had holes here and there big enough to build a Deathstar in, it was different. The blending of Western with Scifi was handled rather nicely. And so what if the ship was a little odd looking. I will miss the show because it was something different than the rather formulaic Star Trek Epics. Just my 2cents. This just means that I'll be heading back to cable TV on Friday nights.
LOL....oh thats about every software company under the sun....antivirus vendors....basically anything you download a demo for and are foolish enough to give them correct contact information (when you dont have to).
>>A choice quote: "We are a poor country. We
>>cannot develop operating systems and platforms
>>on our own."
Oh come on now, I know India cant be that bad off. Its not like India doesn't have loads of talent, look how fast it Inidans get snapped up (well relatively fast) by corps here in the US.
But as others have said it may just be lip service. Hey if I was the leader of a country and someone donated as much money as Bill did to fight AIDS I'd say just about anything.
But thats still sounds like a lousy copout to me.
...it wants to make some money!!!!
Its amazing how information can set up all thes companies, etc, to promote/sell itself...
Hmmmm....
Well....
1) Export the exchange directory so you have a list of all the mailboxes you need.
2) You could write a script to parse the file and create user accounts on the Unix box
3) It would probably be best if you stuck with the Outlook client (unless you just have to switch), so get Exmerge and export everyones mailbox to PST files and give to them. Those will become the default delivery point (in Outlook) for incomming email.
I'm not sure how you'd handle passwords, etc, unless theres some way you can authenticate against NT (or whatever MS OS you are using).
Just my thoughts (being an Exchange admin).
NO! That should be, "I enabled the top half of the class."
While this is an interesting development, i'm sure its not really a big surprise to the OS community at large. Assuming this attempt by MS to freeze OS out of the picture succeeds, what then of linux?
I've been tinkering with linux for approximately 8+ years, nothing major. I've always been of the mind that linux has, with some notable exceptions (Apache for one), been playing catch up with MS. Whenever a new feature is released in Windows, OS follows not far behind with an implementation. It appears, at times that MS's progress is driving OS's progress. I'm not saying this is wrong, after all, what other way is there to stay compatible? However, once frozen out, will OS be able to keep linux as robust and dynamic as it has been? Of course there will be those that ignore the license all together and do their own thing, but we cant all do that. As others have pointed out, legal disputes are costly and MS has effectively bottomless coffers.
I'm interested in hearing any comments on this. I'm not looking to be flamed so if you are gearing, safe the butane.
Thanks,
-K-
...this sytem would run on a Sun platform running and Oracle database. Now thats a pretty hip way of proping up your business....
How droll.
Hmmm...well i'm 33 and...well yeah i still care. If i didn't like (love) Sci Fi, i probably wouldn't give a rats ass...probably wouldn't even know about this. THen again, you don't have to be an SF fan to get a kick out of that title.(Clones indeed....[snicker]) And yes i was one of those folks that saw Epi I at 12am on the first day it came out. Why, you ask? Why not, i say.
Since i've started playing with linux (1992 or so) i've brought a number of distributions over the years, usually when a new kernel came out, etc. Within the last 5 or so years, as my home connectivity and work connectivity have gotten better, have i started to download. Last 3 distributions i've gotten were downloaded. Oddly enough, even though i'm not a hardcore linux user, i don't feel a loss like i do when buying MS's product even once. Not sure why that is.
....in joke for fans of Stephen Baxter's Xeelee Novels....
Certainly it could have an impact. MS has got to be one of the most powerful corporate entities on the planet. When MS has a bad day so does the stock market (theres something very wrong that this is the case). Now imagine this monster of a company, goes to some folks at capital hill and says, if you don't invalidate this GPL thing we are going to have some really bad days. This is probably a bit sensationalist but in essence, if Microsoft were to throw its weight around, in this era of favorable political winds they could do some serious damage to the GPL. As others have pointed out, the GPL has yet to be tested in court. And even if the GPL wins out, MS has essentially bottomless pockets for their legal department.
On the same topic (LEDs) here is a site that was (to me) pretty impressive. Lots of LED info if you are into that sort of thing. And this guy also evaluates flashlight....LEDs in particular :)
Some engravings on the sides? That would be once impressive box then.
RE: DMCA
Once again, indivuals that don't understand are making policy. Sad
RE: DeCSS
I have 3 computers in my home. Two run linux at least 50% of the time. Now I know someone will say, " use windows if you want view DVDs", well I can make it simpler. Thats 3 DVD drives that I will not be buying. And I had put aside money for 2 DVD drives when I begin upgrading my home machines next month. Unless I need one I won't be buying one.
I've read the thread so far regarding this legal action and the consequences will probably shock the lawyers that brought on this action.
The one thing they are trying to prevent (distribution of the DeCSS source code) is going to happen anyway, probably to a wider range of people than it would've orginally.
Another trend in this thread that i find amussing is the whining of some that the DeCSS folks are pirates. Does this mean that the Linux community is supposed to sit on its hands and wait for someone to decide that its time to support Linux with in their DVD products? I'm not a big time Linux Guru but I know that that isn't how Linux got where it is today. Furthermore, the software market is alive and well despite piracy, the Video Cassette market is alive and well, the Compact disk market is alive and well. So much for the rumors that DeCSS is going to kill the DVD market.
A suggestion to the DeCSS authors. While I know it doesn't sit well with the OpenSource philosopy, why not incorporate. Yeah, you'll have to distribute binaries for awhile but hey, at some point declare the source open and let the code go free.
My 2 cents...
Greetings,
I'm an Exchange administrator myself. I have heard that the max comfortable users you can host on a particular exchange server is about 2k.
Now isn't that cute. A big time executive resorting to name calling. Sounds rather pathetic to me. That was really uncalled for. If a person in his position can't express himself better than that....well.....need I say more?
Right you are, movies have been bootlegged this way for almost forever.
:)
I hear Japan is extremely corrupt with respect to bootlegging. Same goes with the console games. I think Canada has similar problems (if you consider that a problem).