I would say, for your "pidgeon" analysis, I think your demographic (your friends) is a bit skewed towards the übergeek.
Your average teenagers go to real movies in the theater-- why? Getting together with friends and socializing. Going on a date with a girl. Getting out of the parents' house. These sort of things are as important to the average teenager as the movie itself a lot of the time.
Trust me on this. Movie-watching is one of those classic, tried-and-true places for teenagers to get together. It's not going away.
On my Mac I remember there were programs that would take you to a fake Excel-looking spreadsheet or to some screen of "loading data" with different progress bars and whatnot. Can't remember which games these were though.
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They also don't tend to have computers at the employees' "desks", because they would just get whisked away and end up jammed in the machinery down the line.
This may be a dumb question, but what about the hardware locking into a region? Does this avoid that as well?
I could imagine VLC playing different DVDs and not caring about region at all, and meanwhile the hardware DOES lock after 5 switches, and you're stuck anyway. Does this not happen?
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Like I said, above all, they just like the effort and challenge of creating the mod. That's why the modders almost always post pictures of the entire process of creating the mod. They like to figure out how it will work and implement it. It's a challenge. Like a crossword puzzle, but harder.
A lot of mods are humorous or have something you'd never see in a normal computer, too.
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Some people DO decorate their "dorks"... it's called piercings and tattoos.
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Why do people decorate their house? Get a nice car? Buy clothes for more than utilitarian purposes?
People like to personalize stuff that they are around every day. People who do case mods like to express themselves, they like using the fun modded case, and above all, they enjoy the process of tinkering and carrying out the modifications.
The way I see it, those people who said they don't want to be able to do these things are mostly people who don't care. Not too computer savvy, and/or not too excited by music in general.
"Do you think you should be able to make backups of your music CDs to other media?"
"Well uh... no, I really don't care about that."
I'm sure there are some who have succombed to the propaganda, but probably not all, or even most, of the "no" people.
BTW, I hope some of the Troll and Offtopic comments get removed so that future hosts of interesting television can respond to a slashdot inquiry without being assaulted. Im dissapointed with some of the comments. I guess slashdot is becoming younglamerpost.
If she is reading comments at -1 or 0 then she is making a conscious effort to see trolls and offtopics. As she would probably read the responses at the default 1 or higher, she will probably never see "inappropiate" comments. This is how it should work. Why would censorship be a good idea?
bashing e-mail forwards though . . . that stuff is practically "spam your friends"
Well, not just email forwards, but also personal websites that use information from places like email forwards, which adds (undeserved) credibility to the myth. It all seems to creep throughout the Internet, making it hard to discern. I didn't check this to see, but it's possible that more sites give the false "dead ringer" explanation than the real one.
Anyway, I don't know if you even care about etymologies, but if you are, I think the most interesting site out there concerning word origins is Take Our World (which I linked to before). I think they are pretty accurate too.
please see this post [slashdot.org] which managed to be informative without trying to bash someone elses post
Sorry if you decided to take it personally, but I was bashing the email forwarding and other Internet-related means that have caused false etymologies to become widespread.
if someone actually finds something credible that says the wake never had anything to do with seeing if the presumed dead person would wake up (the other post actually DID say that this was part of the wake), i would be very interested!
There is a difference between having something to do with the word, and actually being the place where the word/phrase came from.
"Also, maybe not all of the people they were burying were dead. So they would lay them out on the kitchen table for a couple of days, the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up. That's where the custom of holding a 'wake' came from.
Afraid not. The noun wake comes from the exact same source as the verb. Night-long vigils known as wakes have been a religious observance since Anglo-Saxon days. It is related to watch."
My point was that "wake" is comes from people having a vigil for the dead, and not from seeing if the dead person "waking up" (even if some might have done that at one time).
Again, don't take it so personally. Yes, I was bashing, but not you, and I thought that was clear in my original post. You yourself said you didn't even believe the "dead ringer" one.
a long time ago there actually was a problem with burying people who weren't dead but seemed to be dead. thus somebody came up with what is still called "the wake," where everyone sits around to see if the person they're going to bury wakes up.
No, that's not where it comes from.
From The American Heritage Dictionary: "ETYMOLOGY: Middle English wakien, waken, from Old English wacan, to wake up and wacian, to be awake, keep watch; see weg- in Appendix I."
The word "wake" is just related to the word "watch" and has to do with a vigil and essentially doing the same kind of thing we do nowadays at a wake.
the phrase "dead ringer" has a similar origin: they'd set up a bell above ground and tie a string or something to it when they buried someone, who could ring the bell and alert everyone that they would like to be dug up as they weren't dead . ..
Oh, I see! So that's why a "dead ringer" is someone who looks just like someone else!... er huh?
From takeourword.com (as well as other places that aren't email forwarded urban legends):
"The term dead ringer is one of the terms which means 'lookalike'. It dates in writing from about 1891 and arose from ringer 'a horse entered fraudulently in a race'. It is thought that ringer came from the British expression ring in 'to substitute or exchange fraudulently' (1812). Some believe that ring in is related to ring the changes 'to substitute counterfeit money in various ways', a pun on ring the changes 'go through all the variations in ringing a peal of bells.' The dead in dead ringer is probably the same as that in dead heat or dead on, i.e., it means 'exact'."
I feel like the Internet has really caused word etymology urban legends to flourish in the past few years.
Spam *is* their sales. What you say is true for almost everybody. Yet, if 99.99% of people ignore the email, throw it away, and never EVER would look at it, but 0.02% are interested in the product, then they can profit by sending out TONS of email.
So you are ranting something that every spammer already knows and doesn't care about, unfortunately.
It's true that often when the size of a black hole is mentioned, it is the Swartzchild radius or "Event Horizon" that is being mentioned, being it's apparent size to our instruments.
I think that's "Schwarzschild", not "Schwartzchild"... unless I'm crazy.
Just being nitpicky in case anybody wanted to look into that further.
It's not just that the widgets on non-native. As a Mac user, I must say that Mozilla's widgets are non-native, and also UGLY AS SIN. Blocky and gray. They look like an extra ugly version of Windows widgets. It's like when MS Office 6.0 (I think it was) came out. The most Windowsy version ever. Mac users revolted. Then Office 98 came out with a totally overhauled, Mac-ified interface and the hate stopped.
And I would have to agree with the general notion that people in the Mac community are as excited about Chimera 0.5 as Mozilla 1.1.
because everyone (at least on/. i'd bet) knows that Aqua is closed.
I meant the claims that "Apple == Microsoft" (or that there is some sort of "slavery" to the hardware) are unsubstantiated. Those claims are by no means inherent in Aqua being a closed environment. Some people don't believe that a partially closed OS is Wrong. Apple is _very_ much different from MS, even if they are both profit-motivated.
a JFS is irrelevant, the OS itself is not something people who enjoy their Freedom would Use, Support or Advocate. OSX is closed (for all intents and purposes), add an AutoMagic Fallatio Output and OSX still sucks.
I still say, with all due respect, this is offtopic. JFS may be irrelevant in the discussion of whether OS X is a good/free OS, but JFS is what is being discussed here at the moment.
If this were a statement about just about anything besides GNU/Linux, it would be modded (accurately) as offtopic. Think about if something similar were said about Apple in a Linux thread.
This article is about journaling on Mac OS X. Some people are saying the journaling is another good thing about Mac OS X, but they are still talking about the subject at hand.
The parent comment, telling everyone that GNU/Linux is good because it is not Apple or MS is just plain off the subject. Not to mention that it has loaded phrases like "Apple == Microsoft" and "enslave your computing lives"-- the commenter of course says nothing to support his claims.
What do you mean, you hate to break it to me? I like Macs!
Dual 1-GHz is great, especially since OS X can take good advantage of it. I'd take a dual 1-GHz PowerPC over a 2.2 GHz Intel any day. That doesn't mean that 2x 1 GHz PowerPC = 2 GHz PowerPC.
But it wasn't supposed to be a complaint, it was just supposed to be silly. Don't forget to laugh.
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Yet they can still call the cops, who will try to catch the person, and if they do he goes to jail.
I would say, for your "pidgeon" analysis, I think your demographic (your friends) is a bit skewed towards the übergeek.
Your average teenagers go to real movies in the theater-- why? Getting together with friends and socializing. Going on a date with a girl. Getting out of the parents' house. These sort of things are as important to the average teenager as the movie itself a lot of the time.
Trust me on this. Movie-watching is one of those classic, tried-and-true places for teenagers to get together. It's not going away.
On my Mac I remember there were programs that would take you to a fake Excel-looking spreadsheet or to some screen of "loading data" with different progress bars and whatnot. Can't remember which games these were though.
It's like...
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Ohhhh, cool! Thanks for the info.
They also don't tend to have computers at the employees' "desks", because they would just get whisked away and end up jammed in the machinery down the line.
This may be a dumb question, but what about the hardware locking into a region? Does this avoid that as well?
I could imagine VLC playing different DVDs and not caring about region at all, and meanwhile the hardware DOES lock after 5 switches, and you're stuck anyway. Does this not happen?
Like I said, above all, they just like the effort and challenge of creating the mod. That's why the modders almost always post pictures of the entire process of creating the mod. They like to figure out how it will work and implement it. It's a challenge. Like a crossword puzzle, but harder.
A lot of mods are humorous or have something you'd never see in a normal computer, too.
Some people DO decorate their "dorks"... it's called piercings and tattoos.
Why do people decorate their house? Get a nice car? Buy clothes for more than utilitarian purposes?
People like to personalize stuff that they are around every day. People who do case mods like to express themselves, they like using the fun modded case, and above all, they enjoy the process of tinkering and carrying out the modifications.
The way I see it, those people who said they don't want to be able to do these things are mostly people who don't care. Not too computer savvy, and/or not too excited by music in general.
"Do you think you should be able to make backups of your music CDs to other media?"
"Well uh... no, I really don't care about that."
I'm sure there are some who have succombed to the propaganda, but probably not all, or even most, of the "no" people.
That should be "Take Our Word", not "Take Our World"! The link is right anyway.
Well, not just email forwards, but also personal websites that use information from places like email forwards, which adds (undeserved) credibility to the myth. It all seems to creep throughout the Internet, making it hard to discern. I didn't check this to see, but it's possible that more sites give the false "dead ringer" explanation than the real one.
Anyway, I don't know if you even care about etymologies, but if you are, I think the most interesting site out there concerning word origins is Take Our World (which I linked to before). I think they are pretty accurate too.
Sorry if you decided to take it personally, but I was bashing the email forwarding and other Internet-related means that have caused false etymologies to become widespread.
There is a difference between having something to do with the word, and actually being the place where the word/phrase came from.
Here is another source talking about "wake":
"Also, maybe not all of the people they were burying were dead. So they would lay them out on the kitchen table for a couple of days, the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up. That's where the custom of holding a 'wake' came from.
Afraid not. The noun wake comes from the exact same source as the verb. Night-long vigils known as wakes have been a religious observance since Anglo-Saxon days. It is related to watch."
My point was that "wake" is comes from people having a vigil for the dead, and not from seeing if the dead person "waking up" (even if some might have done that at one time).
Again, don't take it so personally. Yes, I was bashing, but not you, and I thought that was clear in my original post. You yourself said you didn't even believe the "dead ringer" one.
"Saved by the bell" comes from boxing.
From The American Heritage Dictionary:
"ETYMOLOGY: Middle English wakien, waken, from Old English wacan, to wake up and wacian, to be awake, keep watch; see weg- in Appendix I."
The word "wake" is just related to the word "watch" and has to do with a vigil and essentially doing the same kind of thing we do nowadays at a wake.
Oh, I see! So that's why a "dead ringer" is someone who looks just like someone else!... er huh?
From takeourword.com (as well as other places that aren't email forwarded urban legends):
"The term dead ringer is one of the terms which means 'lookalike'. It dates in writing from about 1891 and arose from ringer 'a horse entered fraudulently in a race'. It is thought that ringer came from the British expression ring in 'to substitute or exchange fraudulently' (1812). Some believe that ring in is related to ring the changes 'to substitute counterfeit money in various ways', a pun on ring the changes 'go through all the variations in ringing a peal of bells.' The dead in dead ringer is probably the same as that in dead heat or dead on, i.e., it means 'exact'."
I feel like the Internet has really caused word etymology urban legends to flourish in the past few years.
Spam *is* their sales. What you say is true for almost everybody. Yet, if 99.99% of people ignore the email, throw it away, and never EVER would look at it, but 0.02% are interested in the product, then they can profit by sending out TONS of email.
So you are ranting something that every spammer already knows and doesn't care about, unfortunately.
I think that's "Schwarzschild", not "Schwartzchild"... unless I'm crazy.
Just being nitpicky in case anybody wanted to look into that further.
It's not just that the widgets on non-native. As a Mac user, I must say that Mozilla's widgets are non-native, and also UGLY AS SIN. Blocky and gray. They look like an extra ugly version of Windows widgets. It's like when MS Office 6.0 (I think it was) came out. The most Windowsy version ever. Mac users revolted. Then Office 98 came out with a totally overhauled, Mac-ified interface and the hate stopped.
And I would have to agree with the general notion that people in the Mac community are as excited about Chimera 0.5 as Mozilla 1.1.
I still say, with all due respect, this is offtopic. JFS may be irrelevant in the discussion of whether OS X is a good/free OS, but JFS is what is being discussed here at the moment.
If this were a statement about just about anything besides GNU/Linux, it would be modded (accurately) as offtopic. Think about if something similar were said about Apple in a Linux thread.
This article is about journaling on Mac OS X. Some people are saying the journaling is another good thing about Mac OS X, but they are still talking about the subject at hand.
The parent comment, telling everyone that GNU/Linux is good because it is not Apple or MS is just plain off the subject. Not to mention that it has loaded phrases like "Apple == Microsoft" and "enslave your computing lives"-- the commenter of course says nothing to support his claims.
Like I said, lighten up.
What do you mean, you hate to break it to me? I like Macs!
Dual 1-GHz is great, especially since OS X can take good advantage of it. I'd take a dual 1-GHz PowerPC over a 2.2 GHz Intel any day. That doesn't mean that 2x 1 GHz PowerPC = 2 GHz PowerPC.
But it wasn't supposed to be a complaint, it was just supposed to be silly. Don't forget to laugh.
New Powermacs released that break the 2 GHz barrier!!!!!!!!*
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