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Cathy Rogers Responds Without Crashing

Responding to your questions today in finestkind all-lowercase form is Cathy Rogers, former co-host (the technical term is "presenter") of Scrapheap Challenge and Junkyard Wars, now presiding over a brand-new show, Full Metal Challenge.

1) Time...
by AmigaAvenger

On Junkyard wars it always seemed that the teams had something in running condition before the end of the time limit. Was there ever a time when a team had ABSOLUTELY nothing worth sending into competition? (Wouldn't make for much of a show though...)

Cathy:

absolutely nothing? hmmm. i think that's a question of interpretation... did you see the hydrofoils show? neither of the machines worked at all. so what did we do... repeated the challenge for the british version of the show and that time... neither of them worked again. we just won't learn. but its funny - people use to think i was just being a smart arse when i would go in and give the teams a hard time for being behind, having nothing ready etc - but really i was terrified that we wouldn't have a last part of the show and was imagining that we'd all have to do the can-can or something...

2) Why do you think Engineering is so male dominated?
by Anonymous Coward

You have said in the past that it would be good to have an all female team, but as yet, we haven't seen this.

Why do you think so few women are interested in technology?

Cathy:

oh lord i don't know. i vacillate so much on this one - sometimes i think it is all just habit and training and sometimes i think there really is some different configuration of men's and women's brains - like when i see my little niece desperately wanting to wear pink and play dollies and my nephew constantly deconstructing the alphabet / numbers etc.

but we have actually had all-female teams a couple of times now - twice on junk and in the new show full metal challenge. (in fact there is a fabulous all women team in the show next week - the flamin' aussies who are all drag-racers and are cooool) and they've done well - but they're always a real battle to find. i thought it would be easier in america, where in many ways women's position in society generally is more evolved - but i was wrong. it seems just as tough. and its odd because in other areas of science women are ahead of men. its just something about wirey stuff and digit stuff and big hammer stuff. but any tech-keen ladies reading this, please please apply! you have my ear.

3) how do you do it?
by Suppafly

A lot of people don't realize that not only do you work on all of these shows, you help conceive the initial ideas behind them. How do you do it? Did you just one day have an idea and present it to a network, or did you work from the inside to have your concepts realized? What in your past got you interested in the whole build things from junkyard parts concept?

Cathy:

i was working for an independent tv company (rdf media) when we first hatched the idea for scrapheap challenge (the british name for junkyard wars). so i was in a good position in that i was talking to people at the networks here all the time about all kinds of ideas. and that was just one that hit home. the idea actually first came from the movie apollo 13 and being transfixed by the 'houston we have a problem' part. that scene in which all the very non-typical-hero boys at ground control had to figure out how to save the astronauts lives with nothing but a bit of knicker elastic and a plastic knife. it was that that got us thinking - making life-saving stuff out of rubbish - brilliant, and making the people who aren't normally heroes (i call them the grubby fingernail brigade) into heroes - fantastic. the junkyard and all the rest kind of followed from there. don't know quite how i have managed to end up doing so many shows about boy stuff though. i would much rather go to a nice art gallery.

4) American vs. British contestants
by banda

Have you found any differences between the contestants in different iterations of the show? Speaking as an American who spent part of his youth in England, I find the British contestants much more entertaining, insightful and engaging. Was it easier to work with any particular group? Were there any contestants that made the show difficult?

Cathy:

well here's a funny thing - a lot of americans prefer the british teams and a lot of british people prefer the american teams... what can it all mean? are we all riddled with self-loathing? are we all superbly positive and outward-looking and natural anthropologists? i don't know. i think there is part of the show which is about observing people doing their thing in their natural habitat, a bit like how we might watch a natural history film about baracudas. and in that sense it is easier to watch people who are bit removed from ourselves. i would say in terms of being a host (yuk yuk hate that word) - it is easier to do the american shows because american people are more 'tv-articulate' - they understand what is required for tv - i guess simply because tv is the most dominant medium in american life and history. whereas for brits, other media are still dominant if you look over the whole period of our history; we haven't quite let go of a time when we read dickens serialised in pamphlets, so we are more used to sitting quietly taking things in - rather than 'putting them out there' ourselves. americans can get away with saying things like 'i am the big cahuna' whereas british people just sound silly saying things like that. the only downside of the american show is that americans seem to be more competitive, which can mean that things get a bit serious sometimes. in the new show FMC the brits often lose and find it all rather funny and are very self-deprecating. but the americans sometimes cry!

5) Sounds from the indie records
by Mikey-San

Before the 'Heap, you were in a British indie-crash-twee-pop band called Marine Research, and before that, Heavenly. Do you keep in touch with Amelia and Rob these days?

Cathy:

indie crash twee pop?! yikes. don't let that get out. yes i do keep in touch with the old indies though i must say i don't go and shuffle along to shows as much as i used to. i saw britney in vegas so the tortured lollipops at the dublin castle will never feel quite the same...

6) As a musician, what do you think of...
by CSG_SurferDude

As a musician, what do you think of the music industry these days, specifically about the slave-labor-like recording contracts, industry ownership of copyrights, Peer-to-peer song sharing (MP3s), and the current fruitless atempts to copy-protect CDs?

Is there anything that you can do in your current position to help change any of that to the betterment of recording artists and consumers everywhere?

Cathy:

is this a leading question?! do you have a letter drafted for me to sign?!

er.. where to start? big corporations are scary in many many ways and the music industry is obviously no exception. but although there seem to be so many new issues today where normal people / artists / whatever are exploited i wonder whether it is really that different from when i was a kid and me and my mates used to tape everything off the radio and make compilation tapes (one of the greatest and most overlooked art forms) and never buy a record in our life. except if it was a local band or a band on a really cool label or a record where we just loved the cover and had to have it. its a big discussion - the only incontrovertible good is to support your truly independent labels. k records / kill rock stars / many others have proved that you can have integrity, great music and not go under.

7) Role of expert
by naarok

Watching on TV, it often seems that the expert provides some good initial insight into a problem, but then often becomes superflous. Sitting through many hours of actually watching the challenges unfold. How valuable were the experts in comparison to teams with general inventiveness?

Cathy:

it depends a lot on the challenge. if its something innovative and thought-provoking like 'build a car that fits in a suitcase' then most teams who have the necessary know-how to get on in the first place would be able to make a pretty good stab at it expert-less. but in other challenges, such as making gliders or submarines, they are dependent. it also depends of course how well they all get along....

8) massive disruption to geeks everywhere....
by gclef

So, have you ever been tempted to wander into somewhere like a LinuxWorld conference, just to see if you could stop all productive work from occurring? (you probably could, you know...)

If not, are you tempted now?

Cathy:

er. i blush easily. my sister and i used to have a fantasy about going to this event called 'crufts' (a really pompous but very-seriously-taken dog show in england (like, they show it on tv! ) where people parade their over-coiffured hounds around doing daft tricks and generally proving that to be english is to be humorous in this fairly tragic way) and doing a streak. but maybe just with bottom halves! it would be a totally pointless act of sort-of-harmless-sabotage of a worthless institution and this amused us.

i suppose what i mean (ie not evading your question quite so obviously) is that the notion of committing a minor act that leads to massive disruption is an appealing idea. but i'm not quite sure about yours....

9) Off screen testing?
by The Mutant

How much testing goes on off screen? For example, the episode where participants had to build a diving bell, descend to the bottom of a small pond, and retrieve a chest of gold.

I don't believe that this was not tested off camera, if for no other reason solely to insure you didn't inadvertantly end up making a snuff episode.

Same thing goes for pretty much any device where explosives were used, or even the airplanes.

Cathy:

worryingly little. its always the hardest decision - test them and make sure they work but risk them breaking during the test (which you're not filming) and then you have no show, or fail to test them and have true spontaneity and excitement about the outcome but risk them failing during the show or being dangerous or whatever. we debate it endlessly and there is often a half way house - the diving bells you can put in the water and test-pump some air, the gliders you can tow up on a winch without a person on them. but it never gives you the full picture and what you see in the show is invariably the first time the machines have been properly tested, people and all. scary isn't it?

10) Why Rollins? Why!!
by SanLouBlues

What's the coolest thing you've ever built yourself? Or, what's the coolest thing you've ever tried to build yourself?

Cathy:

well who else would look as good in a power station? i mean, just say the words 'disused power station' and you think of henry. i think he is fantastic - a force of nature. and he makes me laugh a lot.

what have i built? lord how embarrassing. you have outed me. the sad truth is the things i have made which have been the most impressive feats of engineering and construction have been cakes. sshhhhhh.

310 comments

  1. Next Week on Junkyard Wars!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Contestants try and build a SHIFT key!!!

    1. Re:Next Week on Junkyard Wars!!! by mbourgon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Just proves she's a geek. Better than ALL CAPS, I guess.

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    2. Re:Next Week on Junkyard Wars!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The only thing that not using caps proves is that you don't use caps. Or didn't for that occasion. No mystical meaning to it. It sure as hell is not a sign of being a geek.

    3. Re:Next Week on Junkyard Wars!!! by dclatfel · · Score: 5, Informative

      Personally - I think the all lowercase is very sexy. And her response about the dog show ... sigh ...

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    4. Re:Next Week on Junkyard Wars!!! by LittleGuy · · Score: 2

      ....cathy rogers, closet unix geek

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    5. Re:Next Week on Junkyard Wars!!! by scott1853 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Can't be a unix geek, she at least used vowels.

    6. Re:Next Week on Junkyard Wars!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      And you thought the DOGS were furry.

    7. Re:Next Week on Junkyard Wars!!! by zonker · · Score: 0
  2. Yay by SargeZT · · Score: 5, Interesting

    She is really a good host, and junkyard wars went to hell without her. I'm glad she's finally coming back. We need more british people on American TV!

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    1. Re:Yay by governorx · · Score: 1

      Only thing missing is Cathy's brilliant accent. (Some of those reponses would have been nice to hear instead of read).

      BTW, I hope some of the Troll and Offtopic comments get removed so that future hosts of interesting television can respond to a slashdot inquiry without being assaulted. Im dissapointed with some of the comments. I guess slashdot is becoming younglamerpost.

    2. Re:Yay by rohdem · · Score: 2, Informative

      The trolls and offtopic comments are the BEST part of slashdot!!

    3. Re:Yay by Autolycus · · Score: 1

      she's coming back? when?

  3. Other questions by Alizarin+Erythrosin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I wish she would have read the thread with all the questions and possibly answered some of the questions that were good ones, but perhaps not modded as high (example the one about stocking the junkyard with needed parts). Aside from that It's always interesting to get a little behind-the-scenes on the Scrapheap.

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    1. Re:Other questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (example the one about stocking the junkyard with needed parts).

      Maybe she didn't because this has been known for a while. I don't have the link offhand (the questions thread has it..) where one of the other hosts answers that question.

    2. Re:Other questions by Bobulusman · · Score: 5, Interesting

      And the dog. We had three different people who asked about the dog in the opening sequence, but the votes for it were spread out between the three. :P

      I still want to know about the dog!

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    3. Re:Other questions by entrager · · Score: 2, Informative

      I recently heard an interview with her co-host, Tyler Harcott. He was asked whether or not the junkyard is stocked and I believe he said that no parts are added to the junkyard, but an evalutation is made beforehand to determine if the challenge is possible. I get the impression that if a challenge is deemed impossible or too hard, then it is thrown out in favor of a better one.

    4. Re:Other questions by Zathrus · · Score: 5, Informative

      example the one about stocking the junkyard with needed parts

      Why? It's been answered. Repeatedly. They do stock the junkyard. It's a fusion of a real scrapheap/junkyard and stocked parts. Witness the paintball challenge where there just happened to be a plumber's van full of plumbing parts. I mean, come on - what plumber who wants to stay in business would send a wrecked van away while leaving inventory in the truck?

      Meanwhile, if you watch successive episodes you'll notice bits and pieces in the same places repeatedly.

      Oh, and don't forget - this isn't a real junkyard. It's a set.

      Most junkyards are located in areas you would not want to have high priced electronics equipment sitting around in. Hell, some of the machines that get built are more valuable than the average car in such areas.

      It's always interesting to get a little behind-the-scenes on the Scrapheap

      I'm guessing you're in the UK, so you may not have seen the behind-the-scenes Junkyard Wars episode that was on TLC at the end of last season (around May). See if you can find a copy - they talk about what goes on behind the scenes in some depth. You too can discover why they'll probably never do a gunpowder artillary challenge again (lots of licenses, huge freaking caravan transporting the built artillary from location to location, having to decommission the artillary after the test by pouring concrete in the barrells, etc).

    5. Re:Other questions by dpash · · Score: 3, Informative

      There was a section about this on Robert Llewellyn's page about Scrapheap challenge.
      http://www.llew.co.uk/home/

      BTW Cathy come back. All is forgiven. Can we have someone who knows what they are talking about. Who gave Lisa Rogers the job anyway.

    6. Re:Other questions by cr@ckwhore · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I may wrong about this, but I believe the dog was used as a sort of mascot during the old-school original episodes. I caught an extremely old episode of 'scrapheap challenge' (yes, SC, not junkyard wars) on TLC one day, and the dog was in the show.

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    7. Re:Other questions by Monkey · · Score: 1

      Think of Bad, Bad, Leroy Brown...

    8. Re:Other questions by MilesParker · · Score: 1

      Oh, and don't forget - this isn't a real junkyard. It's a set. Whaaa...? %-(

    9. Re:Other questions by DunbarTheInept · · Score: 3, Informative

      The scraphead challenge scrapheap, and the junkyard wars junkyard are actually the same place. The shows are the same exact footage. The only difference was the title logos that would appear. Why there was a need to rename it for the American TV I don't know. I remember on several occasions on "Junkyard Wars" hearing people uttering the phrase "scrapheap challenge" despite the fact that I was watching something called "Junkyard Wars". They just renamed it and used the same footage, possibly edited a bit for American TV commercial spacing.

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    10. Re:Other questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh no, there are most definetally brit and US versions. They show both on TLC, always calling them Junkyard Wars.

    11. Re:Other questions by DunbarTheInept · · Score: 2

      But the title doesn't tell you which is which. Just because it's called "junkyard wars" doesn't mean it's filmed in the US. The title depends on where you watch it, NOT where it was filmed. Both the UK filmings and the US filmings had been shown in both countries. The original poster said that the Junkyard wars episodes were filmed in the US and the scrapheap challenge ones were filmed in the UK - seemingly ignorant of the fact that the very same footage ends up being turned into two different shows, with the title depending on where you watch it, not where it was filmed.

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  4. Testing by Oculus+Habent · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know about you, but I don't think I could've trusted my life to a see-saw-powered airpump and a welded oil drum, especially without knowing if it would work...

    Though, I can't say I would have been able to build anything as good as many of them have...

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    1. Re:Testing by shaldannon · · Score: 2

      Vanilla is so....bland...now Butterscotch...now that's sumptuous! :)

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    2. Re:Testing by macdaddy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Honestly, where's the risk? You're 15-20 under water with a diving bell that wasn't actually attached to you in any way. Ie, your head is stuck in it. That was it. If the water started getting high and you started to fear for you life, kick off the weights, duck out of the bell, and swim to the surface. Not hard. Not risky. Hell I've been a lot further down than 20 feet with no air line or tanks. Not too hard. If you can't swim, you shouldn't be in the water anyways.

    3. Re:Testing by Kallahar · · Score: 3, Informative

      Plus they've got 3-4 rescue divers, plus a few dozen people watching through the glass and from the surface. I agree that even though it looked dangerous, and could have gotten exciting if something bad happened, the actual danger was rather low.

      Travis

    4. Re:Testing by CoasterM · · Score: 1

      As I remember, they also only allowed the experts to don the diving bells in that episode. So presumably, they would be more capable of coping with any problems, and particularly less likely to panic if something started to go wrong.

    5. Re:Testing by zer0vector · · Score: 1

      You went down with no line or tanks, which is fine, since you never breathed in pressurized air. However, once the people in the diving bell inhaled the air pumped down to 20 feet, they had the risk of the bends if they ascended too rapidly. Granted, this isn't deep sea diving or anything, but even 20 feet can be dangerous.

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    6. Re:Testing by fdiskne1 · · Score: 2, Informative

      The real danger of diving to 20 feet isn't really the bends. Although it CAN happen after ascending from that depth, it would be considered rare. The real danger from a too-quick ascent would be from an air embolism. This is when the air in your lungs expands as you rise and you don't exhale. It's just like blowing up a balloon too far. Something has to give and you end up with a large bubble of air in your abdomen. Not pretty. (Yes, I'm a diver)

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    7. Re:Testing by mamba-mamba · · Score: 2
      If the water started getting high and you started to fear for you life, kick off the weights, duck out of the bell, and swim to the surface. Not hard. Not risky. Hell I've been a lot further down than 20 feet with no air line or tanks...

      You forgot the most important part: exhale all the way to the surface, otherwise you might very well die.

      What happens is this: the air in your lungs, which is at ambient pressure, will try to expand on the way up. When your lungs reach full capacity, the air can expand only by rupturing alveoli in your lungs and forcing air bubbles into your circulatory system. Bubbles can impede the flow of blood to the point that you suffer stroke-like symptoms, including, possibly, death. This is called an air embolism.

      The reason this doesn't happen when free diving (as when you descended to 20+ feet without any fancy aparatus) is that your lungs started out full at the surface, so they only expand back to the same fullness, at most. But any time you breathe air under water, you have to remember to let the air come out of your lungs during ascent, either by breathing in and out normally (when possible), or by exhaling continuously. If you practice a bit, you can actually learn to relax your breathing muscles so that air streams out naturally as you ascend.

      The guys who were breathing underwater on the show were professionals as I recall, so they could be expected to know all this.

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    8. Re:Testing by simong_oz · · Score: 1

      Hell I've been a lot further down than 20 feet with no air line or tanks.

      yes, you're correct - taking a breath at the surface and then diving down and coming back up is not dangerous because the original breath of air will compress (when you dive down) and expand back to it's original volume - your lungs - when you surface again.

      BUT, if you took that breath at 10m (whether they are pumping compressed air into the bell, or you are breathing directly from the comressed atmosphere of the bell - I didn't see the show, but assume it was the first), you have actually breathed air which is at twice the pressure of the surface. Since it is occupying the same volume - your lungs - it is now twice as dense. As you ascend, that air expands as the ambient pressure around you increases. At the surface, it now wants to occupy twice the original volume - 2 x your lungs. At which point you hear a high pitched gurgle and you will start frothing red stuff out of your mouth ...

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  5. Americans are 'tv-articulate' by johnalex · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...because american people are more 'tv-articulate'

    I don't know I would take this as a compliment. Maybe I'm just getting older, but I find that many Americans today have a short attention span, sometimes too short to understand a complete explanation of whatever is happening. I find myself forced to condense complex problems into sound-bites just so users can follow the process.

    Too bad life doesn't always apply itself to bite-sized answers....

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    1. Re:Americans are 'tv-articulate' by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 4, Insightful
      "...because american people are more 'tv-articulate'"

      I don't know I would take this as a compliment.

      No no. All she's saying is that she's found that Americans tend to perform better on camera, because of cultural norms of how to behave in that situation.

      She's not saying you watch more, although you lazy TV couch potato North Americans doubtless do ;-)

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    2. Re:Americans are 'tv-articulate' by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 5, Funny

      Can you summarize this comment please?

    3. Re:Americans are 'tv-articulate' by fobbman · · Score: 2

      I would address your post directly but it was far too wordy for me to be able to...oh look, a Shiney!

    4. Re:Americans are 'tv-articulate' by DeHar · · Score: 1

      Just start out by getting everyone to say "I am the big cahuna." Everything flows from there.

      "I am the big Kahuna"

    5. Re:Americans are 'tv-articulate' by ave19 · · Score: 1

      That was fantastic. Thanks. Tears. Rolling. The whole bit.

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    6. Re:Americans are 'tv-articulate' by mttlg · · Score: 2

      I don't know I would take this as a compliment. Maybe I'm just getting older, but I find that many Americans today have a short attention

      I disagree. Sure, the above is all I read of your comment before moving on, but that doesn't prove anyth...

    7. Re:Americans are 'tv-articulate' by Ed+Avis · · Score: 1

      I couldn't be bothered to read all of your post. Can you summarize it please?

      (PS I am not American but it is true I just read like 1.63 sentences before skimming along to the next page of comments. The web probably affects attention span more than TV.)

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    8. Re:Americans are 'tv-articulate' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Short attention spans?!? are you MAD?!

      This really offends me. Anything couldn't be farther from the- ooh, look-- something shiny.

    9. Re:Americans are 'tv-articulate' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *gasps* "Oh my God! This man is my exact double." *gasps again* "Oh my God! That dog has a puffy tail!"

      *chases dog, giggling* "Here, Puff! Here, Puff!"

    10. Re:Americans are 'tv-articulate' by p7 · · Score: 1

      She is talking about the contestants. What she is saying is that the US teams are more able to ham it up to make it interesting. My read of the statement took it to mean that generally the Brits would quietly work, while the Americans would provide some bravado. Not that we as Americans watch tv better than Brits.

    11. Re:Americans are 'tv-articulate' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Can you summarize this comment please?

      Summary: "I think TV has negatively affected the way Americans think and process information."

      Summary of the Summary: "TV Bad." :)

    12. Re:Americans are 'tv-articulate' by althalus · · Score: 1

      I don't know I would take this as a compliment. Maybe I'm just blah older, but I blah that blah Americans today blah blah blah (where's that channel button?)

    13. Re:Americans are 'tv-articulate' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      to OP:

      You're JUST NOW figuring this out???

      Maybe you should try dispensing Ritalin...

    14. Re:Americans are 'tv-articulate' by pHDNgell · · Score: 2

      Heh. I read the first line of the parent and jumped down to this post. How apropos.

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    15. Re:Americans are 'tv-articulate' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Summary of the Summary of the Summary: 'mmmm..... TV'

  6. Re:oh, like, my god by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I agree. Because she felt that using the shift key at the beginning of the sentence was too much work, all the people who read this article have to work very hard to follow what she is writing. I hope she spend the extra 4.5 seconds she saved doing something REALLY productive.

    If she wants to be difficult, I think Slashdot should probably have fixed the capitalization. There's no reason to leave it like that. It looks very unprofessional.

  7. Cathy rules. by aussersterne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Cathy is the reason I watched the show. I always found her to be a very sexy and engaging woman and after these responses, doubly so. (But she does need to capitalize.)

    Love her haircut on the show as well.

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    1. Re:Cathy rules. by CoachS · · Score: 1

      She wasn't the reason I watched the show but she definitely made it more watchable. My favorite host combo is the original one: her and Robert. I have a bunch of the older episodes on video around here somewhere.

      She's extremely charming and just when you get caught up in how cute she is she reminds you that she's extremely bright as well.

      Yep, I'm a Cathy fan, though I have to admit that I haven't watched her new show yet.

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    2. Re:Cathy rules. by CableModemSniper · · Score: 1

      Ok, maybe she looks good and is engaging, etc. But is that such a deep profound observation, that it deserves to be +4 Insightful? What the hell, who I'm I kidding its not like I haven't benefitted from crackhead mods.

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    3. Re:Cathy rules. by C60 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have to agree. First time I saw the show was channel flipping, and I noticed a quite sexy woman, and lots of power tools, dirt, and strange pieces of scrap metal.

      How can you not pause for that?

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    4. Re:Cathy rules. by CityZen · · Score: 1

      I'll second that. There's definitely something extra sexy about a charming woman who is both interested in and understands how stuff works.

      Add to that a foreign accent and she's a knockout.

    5. Re:Cathy rules. by jon+doh! · · Score: 1

      Add to that a foreign accent and she's a knockout.

      then i feel sorry for english guys, they don't think she has an accent..

    6. Re:Cathy rules. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Very similar to when I saw the show for the first time. In the end, I noticed copious amounts of semen, a crumpled tissue, my finger up my ass, and electical burn marks on my cock.

      How can you not enjoy that?

    7. Re:Cathy rules. by Darth+Hubris · · Score: 2, Funny

      I want Cathy to say Naughty Bits, Knickers, bum, wibble, wobble, and semprini.

      Oh yeah, she was great on the show.

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    8. Re:Cathy rules. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      She won't be doing any talking with my cock in her mouth.

    9. Re:Cathy rules. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nope, but I work in an office full of female english accents, and the pub is crowded with them. I feel sorry for you americans ;-)

  8. Obviously she hasn't seen Macgyver by 1WingedAngel · · Score: 5, Funny
    that scene in which all the very non-typical-hero boys at ground control had to figure out how to save the astronauts lives with nothing but a bit of knicker elastic and a plastic knife.

    He could have made an entire shuttle with a can of cream corn and a ballpoint pen.
    1. Re:Obviously she hasn't seen Macgyver by Niles_Stonne · · Score: 5, Funny

      And Duct Tape. You can't forget the Duct Tape.

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    2. Re:Obviously she hasn't seen Macgyver by xA40D · · Score: 2

      Ha, I laugh at your puny Duct Tape.

      With my trusty roll of Gaffa Tape I can conquer the world.

      Ha, ha, ha ha...

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      Do you mind, your karma has just run over my dogma.
    3. Re:Obviously she hasn't seen Macgyver by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 1

      You mean gaffer tape? Because that works, too. Lacks the impressive, skin-rippingly strong holding power of duct tape, though.

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    4. Re:Obviously she hasn't seen Macgyver by xA40D · · Score: 2

      You mean gaffer tape?

      Nope. I mean "gaffa tape", the ultimate in sticky-stuff on a roll.

      "Gaffer Tape" aka "Gaffer's tape", "Duct Tape", and the cynically named "Duck Tape" are mere immitations. Duct Tape comes close, but true Gaffa is the the stuff that holds the universe together - just getting it off the roll sorts the men out from the boys.

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    5. Re:Obviously she hasn't seen Macgyver by machine+of+god · · Score: 1

      And Swiss Army Knife. You can't forget the Swiss Army Knife.

    6. Re:Obviously she hasn't seen Macgyver by odoitau · · Score: 1

      Would've had to be one of those million-dollar pens that would work in space, tho'

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    7. Re:Obviously she hasn't seen Macgyver by zentu · · Score: 1

      No, Now you are talking about Red Green, But he would require the Possum Lodge as his Work area.

    8. Re:Obviously she hasn't seen Macgyver by charon_on_acheron · · Score: 1

      What, you haven't seen the new MacGyver series. He invented this cool transportation device, that like spins around and stuff. And he can go all over the world in it. Although I think he used some binders twine to make it.

  9. Next: Interview Henry! by bernz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That would be cool. Interview henry, roblimo, interview henry.

    1. Re:Next: Interview Henry! by Dave+Muench · · Score: 5, Funny

      No way. Cathy's responses may of been all in lowercase, but Henry's would all be in caps.

    2. Re:Next: Interview Henry! by hrieke · · Score: 4, Funny

      Okay, I'm game, but please don't expect me admitting to wanting to run around a dog show without pants on!
      Henry Rieke

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    3. Re:Next: Interview Henry! by Dr.+Smeegee · · Score: 2, Funny

      ... Or better yet, Have Rollins and Gregg Gin join with the two remaining Beatles to create BlackFleatls!

      She loves you.... Yeah... Yeah... Yeahhh...
      She loves YOU.... Yeaahhhh... Yeaaaahhhhh..... Yeaaahhh....
      She don't love ME.... YEEEAAAAHHHH!!!! YEAAAAAHHHH!!!!! YEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!
      (Cacaphonous guitar/bass with lilting background harmony)
      EEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAARRRRGHHGHGHGGG!
      (Goes off to dig out old copy of Life-Time)
    4. Re:Next: Interview Henry! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That'd be cool, except all of the answers would be lies.

    5. Re:Next: Interview Henry! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That'd be cool, except all of the answers would be lies.

      Oh, get over it, Seth!

    6. Re:Next: Interview Henry! by jred · · Score: 2

      Wouldn't you want Flea in the BlackFleatls???

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    7. Re:Next: Interview Henry! by Pope · · Score: 1

      Why would we want an interview with Henry Rollins? He's nothing but a liar.

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  10. One More Question... by gspeare · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Were you born without capital letters or did you lose them in the junkyard? :)

    1. Re:One More Question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      capital letters are useless

    2. Re:One More Question... by John+Pfeiffer · · Score: 1

      Baka.

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  11. Re:oh, like, my god by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    They make it much more readable (all caps is also more difficult to read). It indicates the beginning of a sentence. It indicates proper nouns (so we know e.g. where we are talking about polish for your nails or Polish ethnicity). It can be used to create EMPHASIS or the use of an acronym. How many do uses you need, exactly?

  12. Re:oh, like, my god by 91degrees · · Score: 0, Troll

    They help confuse foreigners who don't use the Latin alphabet.

  13. Lure of the exotic by Otter · · Score: 5, Interesting
    well here's a funny thing - a lot of americans prefer the british teams and a lot of british people prefer the american teams... what can it all mean?

    Reminds me of what I've always wondered anout Monty Python -- if I were British and actually knew where Luton is and the accents were unnoticeable to me, would they be particularly funny?

    1. Re:Lure of the exotic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes they would be. And BTW, the accents are noticeable to a lot of Brits too... in much the same way as Texans notice New Yorkers :-)

    2. Re:Lure of the exotic by davew2040 · · Score: 1

      You know, I don't believe that the British have ever been referred to as "exotic" in the many centuries of their existence as a nation-state...

    3. Re:Lure of the exotic by BovineSpirit · · Score: 1

      Once you know Luton, nothing is funny anymore...

    4. Re:Lure of the exotic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you ever seen the Kids in the Hall?

    5. Re:Lure of the exotic by JoeBuck · · Score: 5, Informative

      If you were British the accents in Monty Python would be very noticeable to you, because there are hundreds, or maybe thousands, of distinct accents, and of course the Pythonites chose the appropriate accent for each character. As soon as a Brit opens his mouth, other Brits will know his social class, the town he was born, where he went to school, etc.

    6. Re:Lure of the exotic by Dan+D. · · Score: 5, Insightful
      From what I hear of my ex-patriot friends (or that canadien guy I know) the Brits tend to find it *more* funny. Where as Americans tend to laugh at things like the accents and strange situations, the British are laughing because the accents are those of the upper class, yet the activity is something of the lower class. That sort of thing.

      Anyway, I don't know it entirely, so I don't want to be elitist, but Monty Python becomes even more brilliant when you put them in context. Give them a zeitgeist, and they become subtle comic genius.

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    7. Re:Lure of the exotic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Have you ever seen the Kids in the Hall?

      Except they were Canucks.

    8. Re:Lure of the exotic by HorrorIsland · · Score: 4, Funny
      a[b]out Monty Python -- if I were British ... would they be particularly funny?

      Not at all. In England, they were viewed as a "slice-of-life" documentary-style drama - rather like an early "Hill Street Blues". It was only later that its comedic value (in foreign parts) was recognized. The material was edited, animations and cut-aways added to cover the gaps, and a legend was born!

    9. Re:Lure of the exotic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And this makes them not from the US how????

      Please, we're not really going to have to go through the whole "Canada is technically a seperate and distinct nation from the US" bullcrap again, are we?

    10. Re:Lure of the exotic by DrMaurer · · Score: 2

      And they weren't funny.

      Except "squishing your head," because thousands of people know it and you can bring it up any time and people think you know this show that everybody's seen but no-one knows that anyone else watched.

      It's like saying "I played Bumbury in my school's rendition of 'The Importance of Being Earnest'." except people know what you're talking about.

      (Not that they shouldn't know about Earnest . . . they just don't because it was written by some uppity victorian guy, wasn't it?)

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    11. Re:Lure of the exotic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ex-patriot? Expatriate more likely. The problem with not reading enough is that you don't know what words look like, which is why TV just doesn't cut it.

    12. Re:Lure of the exotic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, whereas is one word.

    13. Re:Lure of the exotic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now that is funny. And a complete load of Dingo's kidneys.

  14. Streak by invid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    my sister and i used to have a fantasy about going to this event called 'crufts' and doing a streak. but maybe just with bottom halves!

    8-)

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    1. Re:Streak by silicon_synapse · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wow, I'm impressed. I've never seen someone get modded as a troll with a comment of only three characters. And they don't even form a word! If only we all could make such efficient use of our keyboards...

    2. Re:Streak by 5alligator · · Score: 1

      how is this a troll? she said it herself!
      btw, upper-case is over-rated

    3. Re:Streak by Walterk · · Score: 2

      And to think he could have done it with a mere two characters!

    4. Re:Streak by DCookie · · Score: 1

      Better question is how is this insightful?!

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    5. Re:Streak by zapfie · · Score: 1

      My guess is people read his comment and his sig in one.. it is kind of insightful if you add his sig to it, since it's very appropriate.

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  15. U-S-A U-S-A by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    in the new show FMC the brits often lose and find it all rather funny and are very self-deprecating. but the americans sometimes cry!

    As an American, I feel a strange sort of pride at this. Yeah, it's just a TV show, but dammit, I've always felt that if you're going to commit to something, then commit yourself to doing the best job you can.

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    1. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by schon · · Score: 1

      the americans sometimes cry!

      I've always felt that if you're going to commit to something, then commit yourself to doing the best job you can.


      And then cry when your best isn't good enough?

    2. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by sczimme · · Score: 3, Funny


      I am sure the contestants did their very best to cry as effectively as possible.

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    3. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by gowen · · Score: 1
      I've always felt that if you're going to commit to something, then commit yourself to doing the best job you can
      But theres a difference between taking your work seriously and taking yourself seriously.
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    4. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by Izeickl · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Being a Brit, I see that being competitive is far more prevelant in the USA than here in just about every single thing, it seems more of a way of life in the states and drummed into you at an early age. E.g. Fear Factor, the British version and Amerian version are so far removed, the American version without fail the contestants are all "Yeah I am the best, no one can beat me..." yada yada I laugh so hard when they fail miserably, theres being competitive, and theres arrogance and inflated egos that so often goes with it. Then again I think that sometimes the British lack the drive and motivation that comes with being competitive which is a bad thing. On the whole though, I think the best is somewhere between the US and the UK attitudes, UK goes not far enough, US, to far.

    5. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by SirSlud · · Score: 2

      Uh, isn't this just a good example of the western fixation on being #1 (not #2, #3, or even thinking about the journey itself as being rewarding?)

      And please, I'm on western soil, so I'm all my rocks are staying inside our glass house here. :)

      Thats the way I see it; Western culture lives by the 'ends justify the means' mantra, where as other cultures seem realize that investing too much in realizing ones goals just means you cant have any fun or learn much from the journey. Or worse yet, this attitude encourages attempting to find loopholes in the rules of the journey for the end's sake .. I think alot of corperate America's 'growth at all costs' fiasco of recent years was a good example of this.

      One last thing. If it means that much to them when they lose, do they really wish that kind of emotional pain on other people .. and what does that say about them? ;)

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    6. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by SlashScot · · Score: 1

      What you describe is an Australian! So what is the Australian equivalent of Scrapheap? My guess is Scrapheap.

    7. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by Andre060 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      in the new show FMC the brits often lose and find it all rather funny and are very self-deprecating. but the americans sometimes cry!


      As an American, I feel a strange sort of pride at this. Yeah, it's just a TV show, but dammit, I've always felt that if you're going to commit to something, then commit yourself to doing the best job you can.


      I am a Canadian myself (and proud of it) but in all seriousness it is easy to see that this is exactly why the USA is the most powerfull nation in the world today... think about it... its not just in TV that americans are this way...

    8. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by colinduplantis · · Score: 1

      ...if you're going to commit to something, then commit yourself to doing the best job you can.

      Absolutely! God knows, I cry when I don't get modded up to 5...

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    9. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by kisrael · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well, keep in mind that Americans who strive to be on tv are kind of a self-selected group to begin with, off the bat more likely to be chest-thumping and with high-self-esteem-issues. I certainly have a big does of self-deprecating humor durintg competitions (and come watch me play darts in my dart league and you'll see that that humbleness is richly justified...) but maybe that's more spread out for the UK population.

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    10. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by salamander_sjv · · Score: 1

      I don't think she meant that the Brits don't try as hard - simply that they can see the funny side when they fail. I'm neither British nor American, but having lived in both countries I find that the Brits' self deprecating humour makes them far more appealing.

    11. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by lovebyte · · Score: 2

      I think it is less about being competitive and more about showing your feelings. The brits are notorious for showing as much feelings as a dead trout and the americans are equally notorious for being an over-enthusiastic bragging bunch.

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    12. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by michrech · · Score: 1

      What you fail to realize about shows such as Fear Factor is that the people that are on the show are there *because* of their arrogance. The producers know that the people on those shows are going, for the most part, to make complete fools of themselvs. This is what the majority of the American public want to see on TV (I know I'm one of 'em. Seeing these idiots makes me feel better about myself sometimes).

      Keep that in mind next time you see one of these stupid 'reality TV' shows.. =]

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    13. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by chrysrobyn · · Score: 2

      being competitive is far more prevelant in the USA than here in just about every single thing

      In your FACE!

    14. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 2, Offtopic
      No, that's not the reason. Mainly it's just because it's one country covering a lot of territory with pretty decent natural resources. Being one big country means it has a huge internal market- this means that goods can be made cheaper just because of economies of scale; that in turn means it competed well abroad. Of course that meant that more money came into the country, and that pushes up the standard of living, until the goods no longer compete so well... and it balances out, but that's still where the USA is now.

      Being fairly well off helped during the second world war; America had lots of weapons, and so it was able to cut 'deals' with Britain- loans that aren't yet repaid. America left WWII as the major player on the world stage.

      It's unclear how or whether attitude helped with these things.

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    15. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by dubiousmike · · Score: 2

      As an American, I feel a strange sort of pride at this. Yeah, it's just a TV show, but dammit, I've always felt that if you're going to commit to something, then commit yourself to doing the best job you can.

      Can someone please forward this concept to Detroit so that our automobile manufacturers know that we pay attention?

    16. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by Scrameustache · · Score: 2

      in the new show FMC the brits often lose and find it all rather funny and are very self-deprecating. but the americans sometimes cry!

      As an American, I feel a strange sort of pride at this.


      Wuss... ;- )

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    17. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 2

      Mainly it's just because it's one country covering a lot of territory with pretty decent natural resources.

      Certainly natural resources don't hurt, but it's not that big a help. If that were true, South America would rule the world.

      On the other hand, the British Empire and Japan have done pretty well with small, relatively resource poor islands.

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    18. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by RebelTycoon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think the best is somewhere between the US and the UK attitudes, UK goes not far enough, US, to far.

      That person would be called a Canadian!

    19. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by Walterk · · Score: 1

      You know that means that the British are better at being not competative. Ha! In YOUR face!

      Note: I am not British, I could not care less if Americans are better than British. I am better than the both of them. :P

    20. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by Zathrus · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You're right. I mean, look at the other major industrial powers in the world today. I always boggle at exactly how much territory and resources Japan has... er... maybe Taiwan... no... England?

      Oh... hold on... that's not true at all.

      Yes, natural resources and territory help. But tell that to Russia or China. They have as just as many natural resources and more land area. But the governing bodies have totally failed to utilize it... or the individuals have. Or both. Probably both.

      I'm not trying to go "hip hip hooray" here for the US, certainly there are things that could be better managed (of course, a lot of those things that the US gets poked about - like environmental waste - are actually managed even more poorly in Russia and China), but the whole Protestant work ethic and "can do" attitude has certainly been a key component in where the US has ended up since the early 1900s (before which the US was a 2nd tier country at best - something most US history books don't really bother noting).

      and so it was able to cut 'deals' with Britain- loans that aren't yet repaid

      Shall we start the litany of loans that the US has made to virtually every European government that have never been repaid? No... I don't think you want to go down that route.

      Frankly, Russia (and/or USSR - take your pick) and China are better indicators of how much national attitude and direction matter compared to resources and territory. If you don't have the desire/incentive to do better then you won't, and no amount of riches can help that.

    21. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by PunchMonkey · · Score: 5, Funny

      On the whole though, I think the best is somewhere between the US and the UK attitudes, UK goes not far enough, US, to far.

      Hmmm... somewhere between the US and the UK attitudes, eh?

      A place like that sounds like paradise.... but then again, I might be a little biased... ;-)

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    22. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would that I had mod points, as I did just Saturday!

      I was going to post this *exact* reply, but you beat me to it.

      No mod points to give you a (+1, Right On Brother), so this (-1, Redundant) post is your consolation prize. Just think of it as virtual Rice-a-Roni.

      Not that I use mod points to positively mod posts I agree with, or anything. That would be wrong.

    23. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by asobala · · Score: 1

      As a Brit, I'd have to say that's the point.

    24. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, you must be French then, ;)

    25. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds good to me - I save mod points, and you cry like a woman. Everybody wins!

    26. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by afidel · · Score: 2

      America didn't leave WW2 as the major player on the world stage, they entered it that way. The US accounted for 51% of the world's industrial capacity during that time, which is what makes Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor so crazy. They thought a nation that could output a battleship a day was going to curl up with their tails between their legs because the lost about a third of their fleet. Post WW2 our economic dominance of the world swifty declined as we rebuilt Japan and German in our image and allowed them to become much larger players then they had been before, and it bought us 50 years of peace which may be the best use of capital ever. Today our internal economy keeps the standard of living high but we live well mostly because we are raising the average stanard of living across the globe. China is the new center of technology development and will be one of the larger industrial countries if they want to be. This will raise the standard of living in China, but the lowered cost of goods will unsure that at least a few more generations of Americans will have a growth in GDP and standards of living. Natural resources have almost nothing to do with America's sucess today, with the possible exception of crude oil.

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    27. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the best is somewhere between the US and the UK attitudes

      Geographically, would that be called Icelandic attitudes?

    28. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by Walterk · · Score: 1

      Ouch, but no, then I'd have some sort of silly accent.

    29. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 2
      The British Empire was built on trade initially; but once we had an empire, then it was built on the resources of that empire- it tended to act much like an internal market.

      Japan is another story. The Japanese manipulated their economy- for example they introduced regulations that pushed up the price of land. This mean that in order to be able to afford to live anywhere the Japanese had to work like maniacs. This in turn meant that the per capita productivity was really good, which in turn lead to Japan being rich. Of course the Japanese were living in quite small living quarters... And of course the crash occured when this system fell apart is a sight to behold.

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    30. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Yes, well Russia has been communist for quite a while- it is a very inefficient system; and their land is nothing like as good as American land; to climb out of an agricultural society, you need the farming to be good enough that you have spare people.

      China, ever since about 12th century, it has employed an isolationist policy. That means that it doesn't get the influx of ideas from the other countries that allow a country to improve. America, Britain, Japan and Europe in general have been passing the ideas around with abandon- and some of these ideas stick and make lots of money.

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      "Gravity is only a theory, not a fact!"
    31. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 2
      Oh well only oil ;-)

      Incidentally, there is some evidence that, for most, of the standard of living in the USA is no higher than, say, Sweden. The number of people with obscene amounts of money skew the statistics. CEOs have been getting ~1000x the salary of the lowest in the company- although it may be dropping slightly now.

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      "Gravity is only a theory, not a fact!"
    32. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by juju2112 · · Score: 2
      But theres a difference between taking your work seriously and taking yourself seriously.

      No, not in America. Most people here define themselves by their work. It ruins their self-image when they lose. That's why they cry.
    33. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 2

      Ah, what the hell. Here's a reference...

      Check it...

      53 percent of poor households have air conditioning;
      91 percent own a color TV and 29 percent own two or more color TVs;
      64 percent own a car and 14 percent own two or more cars;
      56 percent own a microwave oven; and
      40 percent own their home, with 71,000 owning homes worth more than $300,000.

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    34. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 2

      In fact, the AC's point is so interesting, I think I'll make it my new sig.

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    35. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by JazFresh · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Being a Brit, I see that being competitive is far more prevelant in the USA than here

      That's why the British version is called Scrapheap Challenge and the American version is Junkyard Wars.

      "Go on, have a war!" -- Chris Morris

    36. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by Mac+Degger · · Score: 2

      Damn, and here's me thinking that it had more to do with the fact that the US is pissing away about 50%(!!!) fof it's national budget on the military.

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    37. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 2

      Damn, and here's me thinking that it had more to do with the fact that the US is pissing away about 50%(!!!) fof it's national budget on the military.

      I hate to ruin a perfectly good point made with triple exclamation marks by introducing pesky facts, but the military budget is only $336 billion out of $2,052 billion, or 16.4%. If you want to find the waste in federal government, look at social programs, not the military.

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    38. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by mosch · · Score: 2
      high-self-esteem-issues
      holy fuck, I've got too much self esteem! if only i were more of a loser, life would be so much better!!
    39. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by mosch · · Score: 2

      There's also some evidence which indicates that the highest paid Americans are debating whether or not to buy sweden, so they can turn it into a Planet Hollywood.

    40. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by kisrael · · Score: 2

      It's not so much a need to be more of a loser, just to feel more like one...or at least, have a realistic appraisal of your own abilities, and the fact that in a world of over 6 billion people, it's unlikely that you're the very best at any thing.

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    41. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by simong_oz · · Score: 1

      I think the best is somewhere between the US and the UK attitudes, UK goes not far enough, US, to far.

      [puts on the baggy green]

      Now that would be an aussie mate!

      Combine the patriotism of the USians (I got told off for calling you americans ;) ) with the tempered sensibility of the UK, shake it around and compress into a nation of 20 million. ta da!

      I can see it now - Junkyard Wars wouldn't work in Australia unless the losers had to buy the beer for the winners !!

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      "Because it's there." - George Mallory, when asked why he wanted to climb Mt Everest, March 18, 1923 (New York Times)
    42. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 2

      Unlike American politicians, not everything is for sale.

      --

      -WolfWithoutAClause

      "Gravity is only a theory, not a fact!"
    43. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by GuidoZ · · Score: 0

      Of course it paradise. It's Canada.

    44. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      uh. Last I checked, Japan did kickass hugely due to their economy being TOTALLY rebuilt after they had the shit knocked out of them from WW2. It's amazing what building fresh rather than slowly upgrading will do.

    45. Re:U-S-A U-S-A by lendude · · Score: 1

      It's commonly know as 'the Dump' or 'the Tip' for general rubbish, and a 'Scrapyard' or 'Wreckers Yard' for more equipment-oriented stuff. So maybe the show here would "Wreckers Wars"? :)

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      "Get off the cross - we need the wood" - Tori Amos
  16. Re:offtopic. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fart on him.

  17. Re:oh, like, my god by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cyrillic and Greek alphabets have capital letters too.

  18. That new show and Rollins by bigredorb · · Score: 1

    I watched the new show last night. Some crazy cars driving down a giant bowling ally and crashing into huge pins. It was fairly entertaining I guess.

    Anyway, I'm not a big Rollins fan but I thought he fit the part just fine. He's pretty tough looking and doesn't talk like a complete idiot. At least he doesn't ham-it-up. I've had it up to here with hosts that ham-it-up.

    1. Re:That new show and Rollins by Blackneto · · Score: 1

      What I thought entertaining on that episode was the older Chilean gentlemen taking on all comers and winning.
      It will be interesting to see how far they make it.

      --
      Ursula Andress, Catherine Deneuve, and Charo, twice...
  19. Non typical heroes by PhysicsGenius · · Score: 0, Interesting

    That was my attraction to the show as well. So why the typical heroes on FMC (and the typical anti-heroes on JW)? Why not get some smart, non-clownish hosts for both these shows?

  20. Re:We need more british people on American TV! by Filter · · Score: 1

    With subtitles in 'merican...

    I love it (laugh out loud) when American TV programs put subtitles on the screen for someone with an English accent.

    Filter,

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    "better ways of doing things eventually just replace the inferior things" - Linus Torvalds 09-08-07

  21. Re:oh, like, my god by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nurk nurk, "Good one, Ace!" *high five*

  22. Editor(s)...do we have any here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Editor, n. One who edits; esp., a person who prepares, superintends, revises, and corrects a book, magazine, or newspaper, etc., for publication."

    Seriously, do we have any here?

    1. Re:Editor(s)...do we have any here? by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      Maybe he thought it was an ee cummings style statement?

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  23. That is what MODDING is for. by Dephex+Twin · · Score: 1
    BTW, I hope some of the Troll and Offtopic comments get removed so that future hosts of interesting television can respond to a slashdot inquiry without being assaulted. Im dissapointed with some of the comments. I guess slashdot is becoming younglamerpost.
    If she is reading comments at -1 or 0 then she is making a conscious effort to see trolls and offtopics. As she would probably read the responses at the default 1 or higher, she will probably never see "inappropiate" comments. This is how it should work. Why would censorship be a good idea?
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    If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe. -- Carl Sagan
  24. Monty Python by Rupert · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes. It was.

    You should learn where Luton is. If you lack that knowledge, you may accidentally go there.

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    --
    E_NOSIG
    1. Re:Monty Python by crawling_chaos · · Score: 2

      Brits should do the same for Toledo, Ohio. You never want to end up there.

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      You can only drink 30 or 40 glasses of beer a day, no matter how rich you are.
      -- Colonel Adolphus Busch
    2. Re:Monty Python by paradesign · · Score: 3, Interesting
      i actually did, well not so accidentally. it seems that Ford is the only reason there is a Luton. I was folowing my father around europe last summer and he had business in luton so thats where we stayed while in england. the customs guy at heathro was like "where ya headed" luton "im sorry" my father and i just looked at each other and the guy was like "business with ford" yep, then to me "and i assume youll be taking the first train to London?" and thats exactly what i did.

      although being from detroit, things werent that bad in luton but the trainride into London hade some scary sights off the way.

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      I want 2D games back.
    3. Re:Monty Python by Lozzer · · Score: 1

      I thought it was a huge Vauxhall (British GM?) plant in Luton. At least thats what I see as I sneak down the hill to the airport hoping that nobody sees me in Luton.

      --
      Special Relativity: The person in the other queue thinks yours is moving faster.
    4. Re:Monty Python by digithed · · Score: 1

      It was a huge GM plant until they closed it down about 6 months ago. Now its empty and a lot of poor people in Luton are without jobs.
      --
      Steve Brammer
      (From U.K. but currently residing in Västerås, Sweden)

  25. smart and sexy by zonker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    what self respecting geek doesn't like that combination? too bad there aren't more like her as the computing (not just tv) industry needs a little more gender diversity than the standard overweight male basement dwellers and insecure pimply dorky guys that seem to occupy most of it. this will hopefully change as time goes on and technology is more prevalent in schools and understood by 'the masses'. this seems to be the biggest open gap i see in the industry today...

    1. Re:smart and sexy by |<amikaze · · Score: 3, Funny

      There's only one problem. When it comes to women, you can pick two:

      1) Smart
      2) Sexy
      3) Sane

      Only two buddy, you can only have two. Although, Cathy Rogers doesn't seem to be insane... and she's definately smart & sexy. Maybe she broke the rule or something.

    2. Re:smart and sexy by HedRat · · Score: 1

      And remember, no matter how smart/sexy/sane she may be, there's always some guy out there that is sick of putting up with her shit.

  26. Re:The important question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    29, but nekkid is a very cool word. Much cooler than naked, or nude.

  27. Full Metal, etc by Alien54 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    almost feels more like robots wars

    That said,when I saw "Bumper Cars" I thought that it was the bumper cars you see on the board walk at the beach, or at a the carnival that comes to towm.

    But aside from sumo, no car can deliberately damage each other...

    [sigh ...]

    --
    "It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
  28. It's a 'kind' of compliment by Gerry+Gleason · · Score: 2

    Backhanded, maybe? You have a point, but the flipside is that it is a valuable skill to be able to get your point across quickly and clearly. Clearly, she valued the fact that they were responsive to the needs of the media format, but I suppose we see this taken too far way too often, so there is some value in unselfconsciously going about your business. The comments about these differences are interesting.

    1. Re:It's a 'kind' of compliment by shaldannon · · Score: 2

      Oh, no...it's a necessary skill in our (American) society. You wouldn't want to be left unable to respond if some terrible tragedy struck, would you? I mean, suppose someone in your office goes postal, and you're the first person the TV reporter finds. "Excuse me, sir; John Doe just slaughtered everyone in your office, how do you feel?" Do you want to be struck dumb as Zacharias or do you want to reply "I'm going to Disney World!"?

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      What is your Slash Rating?
  29. Re:offtopic. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Take a shit in a bag. Bring the bag to work. Take out the shit and wipe it all over your co-worker, telling him you are making him "smell better".

  30. Photos of and info on Cathy Rogers by BrianWCarver · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you want to know who she is, then follow this link.

    C'mon you don't watch Junkyard Wars?!?

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  31. Re:oh, like, my god by 91degrees · · Score: 1

    Good point.

    Replace "Latin" with a term that covers all three. Is there such a term? They are all based on the same root arent they?

  32. New presentor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Dunno what's happening over in the US, or which version of the show(s) get filmed first, but Lisa Rogers is co-presenting Scrapheap Challenge now here in Blighty.

    I believe one of the Discovery channels is repeating the past series with Cathy.

    Just in case some of us Brits weren't aware of it...

    1. Re:New presentor by _xeno_ · · Score: 1
      I recently caught a new episode on TLC (the Discovery Channel - er - subchannel - that actually shows SC/JYW) using Lisa Rogers as the host.

      So yeah, us - er, USers - get to see her also. Although to be honest, I turned the show off because it looked to be fairly boring, since basically it was another "make a car" episode.

      --
      You are in a maze of twisty little relative jumps, all alike.
  33. Re:oh, like, my god by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, since you just "disagree" on scientific studies on readability and all caps (not to mention anecdotal evidence you could probably gain by just comparing on your own), I don't put a lot of stock into any of your opinions.

    You don't like the polish/Polish thing? How about talking about states or States (the latter being States in the USA)? What about the west versus the West? These are different connotations where the context might not distinguish between the two.

  34. Crufts Ticket Sales Booming!! by stuporg · · Score: 5, Funny

    This just in...

    The organizers of the Crufts dog show have just reported that tickets for the show have sold out for the next three years...seems like especially heavy sales from /. readers hoping for to spy a bit of the 'streak'.

    Anyone have the ph#/web site for this crufts show?!?

    1. Re:Crufts Ticket Sales Booming!! by NOT-2-QUICK · · Score: 2
      Only a google away...here ya go

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      Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. -- Benjamin Franklin
    2. Re:Crufts Ticket Sales Booming!! by freuddot · · Score: 2

      Check it out :

      www.crufts.org.uk

      HTH. ;-)

      f.

    3. Re:Crufts Ticket Sales Booming!! by machine+of+god · · Score: 1

      Thanks a lot man, now she'll never do it. Anyone wanna buy some cruft tickets? Or whatever they're called.

  35. America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Man, we really are fuckos, aren't we.

  36. Agreed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Total waste on a show that is way into repeats. Cathy hasn't been seen on the current show at all AFAIK. Naked and sucking would be the only reason I would give this woman a second look. Slashrot is becoming a linux weenie haven, non-thinking "I use linux , therefore I must be smarter than you" bullshit.

  37. Re:oh, like, my god by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think it would best be expressed as descendents of the Phonecian alphabet.

  38. Wah Wah Wah Poor Me! by zrk · · Score: 1

    I was hoping she'd answer my question ( see it). Alas, perhaps I should go shoot myself. Better yet, maybe I should construct a device that picks me up from inside a locked box on the sea bottom and then shoots me at a castle wall made of styrofoam blocks

  39. Not Sure I Believe This... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...the idea actually first came from the movie apollo 13 and being transfixed by the 'houston we have a problem' part. that scene in which all the very non-typical-hero boys at ground control had to figure out how to save the astronauts lives...

    There have been other programs on British T.V. where they`ve taken a group of experts, given them junk, and asked them to build something. The "Great Egg Race" springs to mind. Cathy would have seen this while growing up.

  40. I want to.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    get her in my bed and show her the sexual engineering I've learned with regard to stimulating a woman to an incredible climax. She's very lovely indeed and deserves as much fun in bed as possible. I'd start off with the classic tongue action on her clitty, whilst stroking her nipples. Then, I'd slowly move onto a steady stimulation of her labia. Once she begins to open a bit, I'd use the special fingering technique I've worked out and finally work both her clit and g-spot simultaneously. I know she'd love it.

    1. Re:I want to.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When are you going to learn to have sex like a man? She may as well be a fuckin dyke, if thats all you can muster up boy.

    2. Re:I want to.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well... my penis is too small to be able to fill her pussy by the time I have it stretched to the size I usually get it up to. In fact, there isn't a cock in the world that will fill it. I regularly open my wife up large enough to stuff a football in there. If there is a man out there with a cock the size of a football (in thickness because that's what women like), then he might have a prayer of fitting in there.

  41. " i would much rather go to a nice art gallery." by HorrorIsland · · Score: 1

    Bit hard to imagine what you could make out of that...

  42. a definition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:a definition by Blackneto · · Score: 1

      So what did YOU originally think the word meant?

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  43. Manners by arrogance · · Score: 1

    This and the next few posts are more of a pointless waste of electrons than the Q&A (of course, my response might be too: my guess is I won't make much of a dent in the coward's manners)... the very first post was funny (Next Week on Junkyard Wars!!! Contestants try and build a SHIFT key!!!), but it degenerated quickly and pointlessly.

    I'm not even a fan of JYW, but even I can understand that if someone's willing to take the time and answer some questions for fans, why pillory them over a style issue? Have you never chatted online? Much online communication takes place without caps at the beginning of a sentence and it's perfectly easy to understand (unless they use monstrous acronym's like ROTFLBTCDICAJTTWADBSIHPWTRHITSBKABAYB or IITYWIMWYBMAD: see one of many lists that explain online acronyms).

    The real waste of electrons is posts that do nothing more than decry bandwidth usage for something THEY clicked on....

    Save the misogyny for someone that deserves it: Celine, Britney et al.

    1. Re:Manners by morridx · · Score: 1

      I don't think it was so bad: nobody asked if we could imagine a beowulf cluster of Cathy Rogers . . .

  44. just wanted to say by NitroAir · · Score: 1

    thank you for providing some insight on what goes on behind the scenes so to speak. also something that i appreciate are the complete lack of the shift key, makes it much easier to read.

    on a side note it seems that the 'junkyard' is rigged with stuff they need since i know i couldnt find some of the things they do without doing some serious scrounging, my question (i missed the ask the question part) is, is it actually rigged?

    1. Re:just wanted to say by CoachS · · Score: 1

      The explanation I've seen from several sources (including Cathy) is that it's not rigged, but they do realize that at the end of the day they won't have much of a rocket show if they don't find any rockets so... ...the producers make sure that the junkyard does have at least the minumum parts that would be required to complete the challenge.

      Host Robert says on his website that even though the scrapheap does have the essentials that the teams don't always find them. He mentions chatting with a team member in the scrapheap once, actually kicking a working engine and coughing only to have the team member wander off and select a much worse one.

      So, I guess the answer is that it's not "rigged" but that the challenges are possible (the show wouldn't last long if nobody ever completed the challenges) and where necessary the producers have hidden some of the important bits in the scrapheap.

      -Coach-

      --
      Perhaps the world's greatest tragedy is that ignorance is not impotence.
  45. Check this site out... by tgd · · Score: 4, Informative

    The N.E.R.D.S. have a pretty good site about their time on the british show a couple years back.

    http://www.the-nerds.org/

  46. Rollins? by K-Man · · Score: 4, Informative
    Why not Mark Pauline?

    Sample episode:

    Arguably the most dangerous machine ever fabricated at SRL. Going by the inocuous title of the Pitching Machine, this device when it was originally built, launched 6 foot 2"x4"s at a velocity of 120 mph. This provides a calculated range of 800 ft. It is equipped with an automatic loading system holding 20 boards and is powered by a 500 cubic inch Eldorado engine.
    It has since been modified to discharge 2x4s at 200mph.
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    ---- "If we have to go on with these damned quantum jumps, then I'm sorry that I ever got involved" - Erwin Schrodinger
    1. Re:Rollins? by zodar · · Score: 1

      If they build one that loads clue-by-fours, I'm buying 2 and taking them to work.

      See if my boss can take a hint when it hits him at 176 feet per second.

  47. If he said that... by CoachS · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...then he's wrong. Cathy has said before and contestents on earlier shows have confirmed that in some cases they do stock the junkyard with a few essential bits. For example the rocket motors that they've used for the rocket shows -- I don't hang out in scrapheaps but I seriously doubt that you're going to find brand-new rocket motors just sitting in the truck of an old Pinto.

    Also in one of the monster truck shows they even said on the air that some of the tires being used were on-loan from the company that made them.

    -Coach-

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    Perhaps the world's greatest tragedy is that ignorance is not impotence.
    1. Re:If he said that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't hang out in scrapheaps but I seriously doubt that you're going to find brand-new rocket motors just sitting in the truck of an old Pinto.

      Of course Pintos have rocket motors in them -- that's why they blew up in rear-end collisions...

    2. Re:If he said that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HA! Someone mod this up as funny.

      uh, because it is.

  48. High Fidelity by digidave · · Score: 2

    one of the greatest and most overlooked art forms Anybody else catch that quote from John Cusak's movie High Fidelity? I didn't catch any Douglass Adams quotes, so maybe she's only pretending to be a geek.

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    1. Re:High Fidelity by Obsequious · · Score: 2

      Actually, High Fidelity was first a novel by Nick Hornsby before John Cusack adapted it to film. It was also set in London, so maybe that's why she knew it. :) Of course, I have no idea whatsoever if that line appears in the novel (which I have not read.) It certainly does appear in the movie.

    2. Re:High Fidelity by tsphere · · Score: 1

      The movie is so excellent because it uses many of the novel's speeches word-for-word. i am almost certain that appears in the book.

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      Tetris rules.
  49. Her pants-dress thingie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't believe no one asked her about the pants/skirt she wears every single episode. I always thought it was weird. I mean either wear a skirt or wear some pants not both!

  50. Might want to take a step back... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You find certain grammar "sexy". I think you might want to reevaluate your life.

  51. my $0.02 by kingkade · · Score: 2, Insightful

    OK, all of you have valid points and I'd liek to bring in mine if I may.

    I'm a US citizen and I think the reason SOME of us are so confident/arrogant is that we seem to subliminally absorb more talk of our 'greatness' throughout history as a superpower and a free and fair country (now I'm not here to debate whether the US is the perfect Camelot like so many people who just say that and eat steak for dinner watching Fear Factor and I'm not saying that the US is a facists gov't masquerading as a Democracy like so many conspiracy theorists here).

    This arrogance (again, of SOME of us) is annoying but calling all 'Americans' arrogant is a generalizations and generalizations usually are filled with trouble even seemingly harmless ones (gee, that Asian kid's sure good at math).

    We US citizens, are more isolated from a lot of the world. Over here, going to another state is as easy as for one to go to another country in Europe. We seem therefore more, nationalistic, self-centered, etc.

    But most of us are taught one good thing in childhood (usually). I'll never forget one of my 4th or 5th grade teachers telling us that competition is good, that competition built this country (the good along with the bad, but competition is not itself bad). He said that competition is the foundation for capitalism (not is so many words), and that it brings out the best in people.

    Of course some people will take this previous remark as 'win at all costs' when one can take it as 'honest competition is noble' (etc), so that will immediately give you a good indication of what type of person you are.

    I see nothing wrong in failing and being upset about it, whether you cry or not depends upon your personality and how seriously you take the competition or maybe how important it is to you. Failing miserably is much more worthwhile that never trying at all, IMHO. Regret is a bitch.

    1. Re:my $0.02 by schon · · Score: 2

      But most of us are taught one good thing in childhood (usually). I'll never forget one of my 4th or 5th grade teachers telling us that competition is good, that competition built this country (the good along with the bad, but competition is not itself bad). He said that competition is the foundation for capitalism (not is so many words), and that it brings out the best in people.

      While I find your points very interesting and insightful, this one kind of sticks out at me.. You should read the book a href="http://www.curledup.com/sideshow.htm">Sidesh ow by Sheri S. Tepper.. she takes this point of view (and the corresponding one of Diversity) and takes them to their ultimate conclusion.. She provides remarkable insight into modern western civilization (Just like the other books in the series, Grass and Raising the Stones - you don't need to read them to enjoy Sideshow though; although you might get more out of it..)

  52. A conundrum by 0xdeadbeef · · Score: 5, Funny

    At odds are my ever-present lust for telegenic renaissance women and my contempt for those pretentious art-school floozies who consider it cute and original to eschew the shift key. Such a contradiction! This is sort of paradox that destroys lesser beings....

    I have decided to stand by my principles, and not accept any sexual proposition from Miss Rodgers. I implore the rest of you to follow my example. Let's not be soft in the face of bad syntax!

    1. Re:A conundrum by gowen · · Score: 1
      pretentious art-school floozies ... eschew
      Hey, you can't go around calling other people art school floozies and then casually throw an "eschew" into the debate, you know. Besides, Oxford University admits too many upper class twits to have the intellectual rigour of an art school...
      --
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    2. Re:A conundrum by xbytor · · Score: 1
      I have decided to stand by my principles, and not accept any sexual proposition from Miss Rodgers. I implore the rest of you to follow my example. Let's not be soft in the face of bad syntax!
      I would think that refusing a "sexual proposition from Miss Rodgers" would require being soft. Although this might be difficult if she were to streak by.
    3. Re:A conundrum by goldfndr · · Score: 2

      You missed the letters J and Q, but nice try.

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  53. hey! by jaroslav · · Score: 2, Funny

    she never said whether she'd go out with me.

    1. Re:hey! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Neither have I. What's your point?

    2. Re:hey! by tgrimley · · Score: 1

      She said no.

  54. There is worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Motherfucking Albequerque, New Mexico. It makes me kill.

  55. Quick geo-political tip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    England is most definitely a part of Western civilisation and culture.

  56. Wasn't that episode 312? by DougJohnson · · Score: 1

    Macgyver to the moon

    1. Re:Wasn't that episode 312? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, Episode 312 was the one where he made the cutting torch out of the bicycle, to save the people trapped in back of the armored car :o)

  57. One more thing on Canada by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are aware that Canada had to adopt the metric because they were having trouble telling themselves from the US, right?

  58. Re:We need more british people on American TV! by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1

    Sometimes those subtitles are needed.

    When I was on a Kibbutz in Israel with alot of English, it was damned hard getting through some of those accents.

    Subtitles are sometimes needed with American regional accents.

  59. SRL by Eightlines · · Score: 1

    I strongly second this! What has SRL been up to lately? I haven't heard mention of them lately.

  60. Sayeth Comic Book Guy: by mbourgon · · Score: 2

    "Best interview ever."

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    "Sometimes a woman is a kind of religion, she can save your soul & set you free from all your sins" - Bad Examples
  61. fully agree by SethJohnson · · Score: 1


    If people can't immediately recognize that the junkyard is stocked, then they're likely also not comprehending the engineering principles being discussed in the show. Seriously. It's a show filmed in America, yet there are British cars all over the place. Minis haven't been imported legally in America since the sixties. They're all over the place in Junkyard Wars. Things like that fiberglass rescue dingy are thrown in to make the set look more interesting. The purpose of this Q&A was to ask questions that will shed insight on this subject in ways that a Jay Leno interview would never provide.
    Seth
    1. Re:fully agree by gilroy · · Score: 3, Informative
      Blockquoth the poster:

      It's a show filmed in America, yet there are British cars all over the place.

      This would insightful and informative, if only it were true... Both Scrapheap Challenge and Junkyard Wars are filmed in the same junkyard, which happens to be located in England (near London, I think...) Oh, and for the other naysayers: It's a set but it's also a junkyard... it's part of a functioning and open junkyard, but they've walled off q section. And *sigh* yes, they do stock the yard a little.
    2. Re:fully agree by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 2
      It's a show filmed in America, yet there are British cars all over the place. Minis haven't been imported legally in America since the sixties. They're all over the place in Junkyard Wars.

      ;-)

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      -WolfWithoutAClause

      "Gravity is only a theory, not a fact!"
    3. Re:fully agree by jeffw · · Score: 1

      Junkyard Wars/Scrapheap Challenge has been filmed in both the UK and the US.

      I'm using the TLC season numbers for the descriptions.

      Seasons 1 to 3 were UK Scrapheap Challenge shows that were retitled Junkyard Wars in the US. Cathy stepped in front of the camera after the first season. (Hosts: Cathy Rogers and Robert Llewellyn)

      Season 4 was the first true Junkyard Wars season. The teams were from the US, but I don't remember where it was filmed. (Hosts: Cathy and George Gray)

      Season 5 (US) Filmed in California. (Hosts: Cathy and Tyler Harcott)

      Junkyard Mega-Wars was a one-shot, two-hour, three team battle. (Hosts: Cathy, Robert and Tyler)

      TLC's site gets very confused for season six and it combines two sets of shows into one season.

      Season 6a (US) Filmed in California with US teams. (Hosts: Cathy and Tyler)

      Season 6b (UK) Filmed in California with UK teams. (Hosts: Cathy and Robert)

      Season 7 (US) Filmed in California. Most of the challenges are US versions of the UK 6b season. (Hosts: Cathy and Tyler)

      Season 8 (US) Still in the San Fernando Valley, but Cathy's run off to Full Metal Challenge. (Hosts: Karyn Bryant and Tyler)

      Season 9 (UK) Back to the UK. Scrapheap Challenge has a new UK scrapheap set and a new host. (Hosts: Lisa Rogers and Robert)

    4. Re:fully agree by SethJohnson · · Score: 1


      Gillroy,

      Check out Kelly's fully-detailed location chronology down below. Lots of episodes are filmed in America. You can pretty much tell by the sky not being overcast and the challenges being held on terrain not readily-accessible to their British locale. I'm thinking specifically of that horrible snowmobile episode as an example...

      Seth
    5. Re:fully agree by brain159 · · Score: 1

      Nope, the junkyard itself is in the UK (the new series of Scrapheap Challenge is set in a *new* yard in a different location), they just ship the "creations" out to the US for the big "trial" on JYW.

  62. Off-topic, but... by zaren · · Score: 2

    I'm curious as to the results of the Dan Gilmour interview - were the questions ever sent? Did he ever answer? Did I just flat-out miss the posting with his responses?

    Note: I ask not only for completeness of the interview, but also for personal reasons - I'm curious to see if my question was one of the ten sent to Mr. Gilmour :)

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    1. Re:Off-topic, but... by Roblimo · · Score: 2

      Dan travels like mad. I got a "be patient, I haven't forgotten" email from him.

      - Robin

  63. short attention spans by epfreed · · Score: 1

    Americans today have a short attention span?!! . . . Well I oughtta! Oh, I was going to respond to that, but I kinda' lost interest half way through my post.

  64. Reverse discrimination by jcsehak · · Score: 1, Troll

    but any tech-keen ladies reading this, please please apply! you have my ear.

    It's kinda interesting how a lot of times, being a minority will help you get a leg up on things. Like here, if you're a woman, you probably would have to be only half as good as the average male contestant at junkyard-wars-type stuff in order to get on the show. And if you were really hot, probably only 1/4. Not that it's necessarily a bad thing. I think it's great, in fact. There are plenty of areas in which being a minority is a disadvantage. This kinda evens it out. It just goes to show that there are advantages and disadvantages to being whoever you are, and the smart people are the ones who capitalize on the former.

    Now if only I was a parapalegic endangered albino 3-toed sloth with a caffeine addiction and a penchant for daredevil stunts. I'd get my own show for sure!

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    1. Re:Reverse discrimination by CoachS · · Score: 1

      If that's true then what does it say that Cathy is the only attractive woman who I've ever seen on JW or SHC?

      The best of the rest (looks-wise) has been barely "cute."

      -Coach-

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    2. Re:Reverse discrimination by jcsehak · · Score: 2

      From what Cathy said, it sounds like attractive women (or any women) who would be good candidates for JW are very much in the minority. So much so that she has had troube finding them. I expect it says that women in general like building stuff out of scraps a lot less than men do. Why? Who the hell knows? The fact that Cathy is the only attractive women you've seen on the show probably says something about the ratio of attractive to unattractive women in the likes-to-make-stuff-out-of-scraps segment of the populace. It also says something (not necessarily bad) about the kind of woman you find attractive.

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    3. Re:Reverse discrimination by CoachS · · Score: 1

      More or less what I was getting at, actually. At least in JW and SHC I don't think there's any real advantage to being an attractive woman. It seems to me that they select their contestants based upon personality and technical acumen.

      The only evidence I have of this is the data -- you can look back through 4+ seasons of shows and while women are fairly scarce, attractive woman (physically attractive) are extremely scarce.

      It seems clear to me that the criteria for getting on the show doesn't include physical attractiveness. Which is as it should be; it's a show about brains and creativity -- only smart people (good looking or not) should apply.

      Sadly the rest of life is too often the opposite.

      -Coach-

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    4. Re:Reverse discrimination by chart · · Score: 1

      Wait a second. If you're in a "minority" -- by which I'm sure you mean a disadvantaged group, since there are more female people in, say, the US, than male people -- then you get a "leg up"?

      Give me a break.

      Women in the US have only had the right to vote for 82 years. Women in the US earn significantly less than men, on average, even when doing the same jobs with the same qualifications. Women in IT are still running into bozos who say, and believe, things like, "I just don't think women can program". Girls in schools are still encouraged away from going into math and science. A big pile of negatives is not cancelled out by a small positive here and there.

      So if someone like Cathy Rogers says, "hey, I'll try to help you if you want to be on the show", she is helping to level the playing field, not giving women better treatment.

      I highly doubt that she would sacrifice the quality of the show by putting on teams that were only a 1/2 or a 1/4 as good just to get some boobs on the screen. Sheesh.

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    5. Re:Reverse discrimination by jcsehak · · Score: 2

      No, it's relative. Women are a minority in the make-stuff-from-junk area, not the whole population. Just like men are, I'm sure, a minority in the quilting community. I agree that the negative probably overwhelms the positive on the whole, and showing a women in a field like engineering helps encourage young women to go into these fields, so it's a Good Thing to choose an equally-qualified woman over a man in a case like this. Maybe even a slightly-underqualified woman. But doing this is discrimination, which is considered by nearly everyone to be Evil. I just thought it was interesting and wanted to challenge people's notions of discrimination.

      I'm equally sure they wouldn't sacrifice the quality of the show by hiring dumb pretty girls; that's reserved for MTV.

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    6. Re:Reverse discrimination by Mac+Degger · · Score: 2

      Just to debunk a common misconception: discrimination is good! It's something everybody does, too. You married or have a girlfriend? Then you discriminated (ie you chose the qualities of one girl over others [asuming you had a choice, of course]). It's just that some forms of discrimination (racism, chauvinism, nationalism) are stupid and based on nothing.

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    7. Re:Reverse discrimination by cuteduo · · Score: 1

      Hmm, I'm not sure where you are getting your salary statistics. When I reviewed the starting salaries, back in '98, upon graduation from the university that I attended it revealed that female starting salaries in most engineering fields were slightly higher than that of new male hires. Notice I said most engineeing fields. There were still a few engineering fields that salaries were significantly higher.

  65. Challenges vs. Wars by mrobinso · · Score: 0
    On British TV, its referred to as Scrapheap Challenge, but in the US it gets billed as Junkyard Wars.

    Kinda wonder if it isn't representative of the value systems in each country. There has to be something to it if the marketing whizkids decide to use that sort of spin.

    .mike

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    1. Re:Challenges vs. Wars by koogydelbbog · · Score: 1

      in england the first series was called 'Scrapheap', just 'Scrapheap', no "Challenge".

      don't know how that affects your theory though 8)

      andy

  66. Robert agreed... by CoachS · · Score: 1

    On one of the British episodes where they did diving bells one of the teams made a pump out of a couple of old fire extinguishers.

    Host Robert donned an antique diving suit and went down to observe the activities but as he descended he wryly observed (as exactly as I recall):

    "I, however, have a proper air supply. Not a couple of jokers flogging an old fire extinguisher."

    I do agree with the other poster, however, there didn't seem to be a lot of danger there. Aside from the fact that they were in an indoor water tank just 15 or so feet from the surface, there were also a bunch of cameramen and other crew down there who undoubtedly had scuba tanks. Not to mention the fact that it's a certainty that they had at least one rescue diver lurking just off camera in case of emergency.

    -Coach-

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  67. Male-domination in engineering by Wonko42 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Cathy on why the engineering world is so male-dominated:
    "oh lord i don't know."

    Cathy on how she comes up with these shows:
    "don't know quite how i have managed to end up doing so many shows about boy stuff though."

    Perhaps, Cathy, the engineering world is so dominated by males because females think of it as "boy stuff"?

  68. amen, brother! by ColGraff · · Score: 2

    Lowercase is damn sexy - very stream-of-conciousness-ey. I know a girl who talks like that on AIM all the time, complete with "er". *Sigh*. Some girls look sexy, some sound sexy, and some type sexy.

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    1. Re:amen, brother! by Suppafly · · Score: 5, Funny

      Some girls look sexy, some sound sexy, and some type sexy.


      Unfortunately, the ones that type sexy often don't look or sound sexy in real life. And often times, they aren't even girls in real life.

    2. Re:amen, brother! by Winged+Cat · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, the ones that type sexy often don't look or sound sexy in real life. And often times, they aren't even girls in real life.

      So we keep hearing. Is this example the exception that proves the rule?

    3. Re:amen, brother! by Llywelyn · · Score: 2

      Speaking from experience there, eh? ;-)

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  69. Actually, both are filmed in the UK by YuppieScum · · Score: 2

    The scrapyard/junkyard used in both the original British show and the subsequent American one is the same... and it is in London...

    There are several times in both shows where Canary Wharf is visible on the skyline...

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    1. Re:Actually, both are filmed in the UK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Not entirely true. Remember, there have been some challenges that we're conducted at American sites. The whitewater rafting and salt flat racing episodes come to mind.

    2. Re:Actually, both are filmed in the UK by Zathrus · · Score: 2

      Untrue. That or they're spending way too much money to do the testing in California the next day (which is where most, but not all, of the JYW episode testing occurs).

    3. Re:Actually, both are filmed in the UK by DunbarTheInept · · Score: 2

      I doubt the testing and the bulding were really one day apart. They probably pooled together all the ones they wanted to test in California and went there in one trip to film all of them.

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    4. Re:Actually, both are filmed in the UK by Zathrus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Rather difficult to do when determining the teams for future rounds is dependant on the results from previous rounds.

      The show has been filmed in both the US and the UK. Another poster on this subthread actually gave the proper listing for which seasons were filmed where and with which hosts.

  70. ObGrammarWedgie by vaxer · · Score: 2

    Syntax is the structure of a sentence and the order in which the words are uttered or written. cummingsed sentences do not necessarily have flaws in syntax.

  71. Wow by Coppit · · Score: 4, Funny
    my sister and i used to have a fantasy about going to this event called 'crufts' (a really pompous but very-seriously-taken dog show in england (like, they show it on tv! ) where people parade their over-coiffured hounds around doing daft tricks and generally proving that to be english is to be humorous in this fairly tragic way) and doing a streak.
    Wow. A gal who can not only form a gramattically correct Faulkner-like sentence, but can also do it while juggling nested parens.

    Meanwhile, my wife asks me what a got-o statement is. ;)

  72. Re:U-S-A U-S-A QWZX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Uh, dude, the US has the richest poor people in the world. How much do you think a couple of hundred CEOs is going to matter compared to 150 million adults?

    And that's just income. Take a look at the assets of the poor sometime. I'm too lazy to find the reference, so ignore it if you want, but I recall reading that around 40% of the people below the poverty line own their own home. Startling, isn't it?

  73. Choose your poison... by sheetsda · · Score: 1

    Censorship, n. The act, process, or practice of removing or suppressing what is considered morally, politically, or otherwise objectionable.

    Where do you draw the line, and why do you think you are qualified to draw this line for everyone else.

  74. mapquest link by SideshowBob · · Score: 2

    I had no idea where Luton was, and curiosity got the better of me.. here it is:

    http://www.mapquest.co.uk/cgi-bin/ia_find?link=b tw n/twn-map_results&zoom_level=4&uid=u1b58cv5rjkckbd a:2590ralzts&SNVData=3mad3-d.fy%2842g561_%29w25d.h qu%3b%28_NGMIW%3a%13%11%17BL_%3dGI_duyguf%28.qurs% 3d0,rb%3b7%3bb5m-r2qfj5m%3be10h%284&pcat=

    Now I know.

  75. Chicken or Egg? by CoachS · · Score: 1

    Is it male-dominated because women think of it as "boy stuff" or do women think of it as "boy stuff" because it's male-dominated?

    In many cultures, for many generations, women were actively discouraged (if not outright barred) from doing any real engineering work. Shouldn't come as any surprise that they are less than equally represented in the field.

    Frankly I think they've come a remarkably long way so far.

    -Coach-

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    1. Re:Chicken or Egg? by Wonko42 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I guess I've never thought of it as "boy stuff" because my mom is an engineer. I'll never forget the first computer I actually owned. I'd been begging for my own computer for years, so she finally put one together for me, plopped me in front of it, and explained to me that even though it was incapable of running any of the games I wanted to play, I could write my own. And then she taught me how to program.

      It didn't even occur to me that women were under-represented in the engineering world until I actually started working, but even now I cringe when people call it "boy stuff". So it struck me as ironic that Cathy said she didn't know why there aren't more female engineers and then, a few paragraphs later, referred to engineering as "boy stuff." ;)

  76. You forgot one very important question! by abdulla · · Score: 1

    Cathy, will you have my baby?

  77. It's too easy. by florescent_beige · · Score: 1

    To really get my sympathy JYW teams should only be allowed to work with a crowbar, a garden trowel, and a pair of pliars they can only use as a hammer. Then I could relate.

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  78. Cathy is a genius... by Bob+Vila's+Hammer · · Score: 1

    How brilliant is it that she eluded to streaking at the Crufts dog show in the UK...

    Now, at first I thought to myself, how bizarre a statement that was to make! Then as the vision streaked through my head, I started to think about how fantastic that would be... And the genius of her statement was revealed!

    Think about how she 'spot' referenced (pun intended) subliminally the sunglass wearing Junkyard Wars Dog/Mascot.

    Dog show streak... Sunglass-wearing dog mascot... Brilliant!

    Ahh, the inspiration of fuzzy animals and nudity...

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  79. Re:Yay the new chick by applejacks · · Score: 1

    That new girl is kinda hot. I do miss Cathy's tin foil outfit it was rather sexy.

    l8r

  80. HAHAHA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    B1FF NOZ THAT CATHY IS NOT 133T ENUFF FOR ALL CAPS.

  81. Re:Yay the new chick by SargeZT · · Score: 2, Funny

    Oh, hello mr Shallow. She was british for god's sakes. Screw hotness, its the accent and organs that matter. This in itself is the problem with america. Recall the Debate between Reagan and JFK? (Yes, I suck at history), TV People thought JFK won because he didnt look nervous, while Reagan was sweating his ass off. On the radio side, they thought Reagan won, because he had good arguments, and a strong case. Now let me ask you something. What do you want, a president who looks good, or who will be adequate in office? Thats right, same applies to people. Dont judge me because I'm ugly, judge me as an idiot!

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  82. that was nixon you moron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    you sure are an idiot. and an outspoken one at that

    reagan vs kennedy? that was nixon v kennedy

    1. Re:that was nixon you moron by SargeZT · · Score: 1

      Holy Crap! I obviously dont know ANNNNYTHING!

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  83. mine is by ColGraff · · Score: 2

    Mine is, my friend. And I count my lucky stars for that.

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  84. Cakes and Bombs by cascadefx · · Score: 4, Funny
    what have i built? lord how embarrassing. you have outed me. the sad truth is the things i have made which have been the most impressive feats of engineering and construction have been cakes. sshhhhhh.

    Dangerous stuff. My wife has this great T-shirt with a 50's homemaker on the front with head tilted to the side. The caption reads "If you can bake a cake, you can make a bomb." True too. Given the right recipe, many interesting things can happen.

    So, Cathy "the Baker" may be more dangerous than you think.

    Nice benefit of the shirt... all the great looks.

  85. handyman's secret weapon by Damned · · Score: 1

    I'm surprised anyone else on this site has actually seen this show. Quite funny.

    "Remember, if she doesn't find you handsome, she should at least find you handy"

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    1. Re:handyman's secret weapon by Darth+Hubris · · Score: 1

      "I'm pullin' for ya. We're all in this together..."

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  86. Far more testing than she admits to. by mt-biker · · Score: 1

    (Disclaimer - I've never seen either of these shows)

    Ron Toms built an air cannon on Junkyard Wars, and you can read about it both on his own site (whole site makes for good reading!)

    http://www.trebuchet.com/story.php/jyw.html

    and also on a teevee.org interview:

    google cache of interview

    Here's an excerpt from the second interview:

    The big secret about the show is that there is an extra day between the build and the contest. They call it a "safety" day. The teams get the day off, but the experts and some real professional welders and mechanics come in and make sure the machines actually will work and no one will get hurt or killed. In some cases I heard that they will actually deconstruct a machine and re-build it from scratch all over again.

    1. Re:Far more testing than she admits to. by mt-biker · · Score: 1

      Oops - I got that wrong - Ron built a trebuchet, and his opponent built an air cannon. Sorry about that...

  87. Free Ascents by anonymous+cupboard · · Score: 2
    From what I recall, free ascents from 10 metres used to be a standard part of diving training. At least for PADI certification. I don't know about BSAC though (the British Sub Aqua Club).

    In the last 20 feet or so, air will expand by a factor of 1.6 times. This can kill. If the persons in the bell were trained and there were rescue divers nearby with spare second stages, any risk would be minimal.

    1. Re:Free Ascents by simong_oz · · Score: 1

      I'm not an instructor myself, but as far as I am aware, the free ascent has been removed from most diving courses. Besides the fact that it is potentially quite dangerous for students (although they should be past panicking by this stage), there is also the issue of the instructor doing 6-10 bounce-dives to a depth of 10m and having to leave students on their own at 10m (the instructor has to ascend with the student [PADI]).

      Despite knowing and understanding all the theory, it's still a very cool sensation to breathe out continuously for that length of time and actually feel the air expanding in your lungs :-)

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    2. Re:Free Ascents by anonymous+cupboard · · Score: 2

      Yes, someone told me that it had been removed from the PADI curriculum. I had to do it though and for the most basic certification (Open Water) about 10 years ago. We were taught whistling and to rise faster than your bubbles. It isn't at all easy and I didn't altogether like it at the time.

    3. Re:Free Ascents by d_vader · · Score: 1

      Hmm, that's odd. I got PADI certified (Open Water) a little over a year ago, and we did a Emergency Swimming Ascent without air as part of our certification. The feeling of the air expanding in your lungs on the way up was pretty cool. However, we were definately told to ascend slower than our bubbles, not faster.

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    4. Re:Free Ascents by anonymous+cupboard · · Score: 2
      Whoops I buggered up the html round the no and it didn't appear. I meant to say no faster than your bubbles.

      Interesting though because some persons tell me that the free ascent is no longer mandatory for Open Water. BSAC definitely don't do it, but they have some other hard bits on their courses, which tend to be longer.

  88. caliphate of death and the antichrist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you would bring about the age of satan you dirty islamic pig fucking ass philanderer. she would not bear your child as your seed is demon seed, you vile deadly friend of the Chenyans terrorist Islamic pig. I hope you have to suck the shit from a pigs ass and have Rabbis shit down your throat.

    Cathy would rather die than be infected with an Islamic WORM.

    DEATH!

  89. Lisa Rogers by squaretorus · · Score: 2

    Not so much 'Dirty Fingernails'... more 'Dirty'

  90. Re:Yay the new chick by B3ryllium · · Score: 1
    • "What do you want, a president who looks good, or who will be adequate in office?"
    * Glances at George W. Bush *

    Appearances seem to indicate that Americans want neither.
  91. Then I guess e.e. cummings.... by siskbc · · Score: 2

    Is your "Sexiest human since the invention of the alphabet."

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  92. Bad makeup by fadden · · Score: 1

    Sometimes she comes out after rubbing around her eyes with charcoal. Not quite sure what that's all about.

  93. cathy please put on some weight !! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    we like you as you are, but you'll look better , you know..headlights, differential areas..lol