Hey, even better, why not go as "rm -rf"? Just go over to the party and throw everybody out, and don't answer any questions about what is going on. Oh, and then I guess you'd have to delete the "directory" as well, so you'd need to burn the house down. Hmmm, I'm going to re-think this and get back to you.
Yes, Apple is a business. The business isn't there to make us happy and protect our rights. However, it does happen to believe that doing these two things is in the company's best financial interests. So they are doing great things such as this shunning of the DRM. Why does it make a difference if Apple is doing this out of love for humanity or because it just makes sense? It doesn't change the fact that it is a Good Thing, and seems to be a trend with Apple these days.
It's just like with legislation. If our Congressmen voted against DRM, I wouldn't care if it was purely out of the desire for votes in their next election and didn't care a whit about actually helping people. So long as they are motivated to do the best thing for the people.
If you found out some major app or utility for Linux was made by a programmer who didn't give a crap about freedom or rights, but just wanted to have that app for free (read: motivated by money), would you discourage people from using it?
I just think those areas that you mentioned OS X not working well are areas that Apple has improved greatly and (IMO) even surpassed any other OSes' way of doing them.
Now maybe the whole way of doing things is not good enough in your opinion, but I just think to specifically say OS X is bad at these things is misleading. Apple is leading the pack.
Again, you live in an environment where someone has bothered setting up the network for you to make your life easy.
Yes: Apple! But seriously, what I mean is Jaguar with Rendezvous gets most of this working for you.
It gets hard when you need to set up things like PPPoE, dial-up, and direct Ethernet connections.
It's all in the network preference pane. I haven't had any confusion with dial-up or direct Ethernet. I haven't done PPPoE but it's right there as an option. It's definitely more intuitive than anything else out there, IMO.
If you install the printer yourself, you may have to download drivers, install them, answer a bunch of odd questions, and go through some odd sequence
I did install the printers myself. This is our home network. The printer I have hooked up to my computer I had to plug in. Then it worked. Printers that were hooked up to other computers in the house that I had just installed Jaguar on suddenly were available as well. It just found the Laserwriter's IP automatically. This stuff is new in Jaguar.
I mean, yes, if I didn't even plug in the network right or something then there would be problems.
This is in 10.1; I have no idea whether Apple has fixed this in 10.2, but that's besides the point. My point is that Apple, too, ships software that is hard to use.
What I said is completely relevant as it shows that, unlike Linux, OS X is rapidly changing any things that are difficult to use, such that 90% of your complaints have already been addressed by the time you are airing them here, and are better than anything out there.
I'm not saying it is utter perfection, but I feel like these are areas where OS X/Jaguar particularly shines.
Sticking a frozen dinner in the microwave is easier than cooking dinner yourself, too. I can cook, so my food tastes better.
I would say it's more like going to a restaurant compared to cooking dinner for yourself.
Some people like the joy of tinkering with recipes and making their own food. Other people just want to eat something delicious and be waited on, and get on with more important things in life.
Yes, even OS X has lots of GUI tarpits: the printer system, AirPort configuration, and network configuration are pretty bad.
Huh? Maybe you haven't used OS X 10.2.
To set up Airport I selected "Airport Active" from the menu bar.
To set up the computer to the network I plugged it in. Automatic setup. (If I needed to configure manually it is just System Prefs->Network.)
To set it up for the printer, I... well, I didn't do ANYTHING. That's right. I did nothing. From the first time I clicked print, there is a dropdown menu with the names of all the printers on the network, some I didn't even realize were hooked up.
Honestly, not only are these things not hard on OS X, but I couldn't imagine them being easier!
This is paraphrasing him. They are saying that Ballmer said that or something like that. IF they had used quotes, that would mean he really used those exact words.
I would definitely go with something that returns the system to a default state on reboot as opposed to locking down the whole thing. In our Mac lab at my school, we used Assimilator. You can actually use the desktop and download a little program or two if you want, and on reboot, the system syncs back to a default state. Works great.
Nobody's talking about restricting freedom of speech. I don't think the original comment was trying to say that it should be illegal to publicly announce a hole you've found. You can tell the company or make it public, but don't expect the company to be so appreciative if you do the latter. Sounds reasonable to me.
It's true, that's the worst part of it. I mean, when you are typing, does "r u" really save a significant amount of time over "are you"? People think it is clever and makes them feel like they are down with computers, IMO.
Sorry, I didn't make it clear that I meant he is too beloved by people who watch the movie. I didn't mean he was beloved plot-wise. I feel like most people who watch the movie just would really dislike making Yoda an evil character. Plot-wise it's very interesting, and there have been many other cases where a supposedly good character turns out to be bad in a movie, but I feel like Yoda is kind of untouchable in this regard... just my feeling.
Considering how much he was against Luke knowing anything about his father or the jedi, or going to the academy, or finding out who Ben Kenobi really was, I'd say he would be a bit against the idea of purchasing C3PO, memories intact or not.
This is an extremely interesting twist in the plot, but I don't think it has any chance of happening. Not because of Lucas's ego or anything like that though. I think it won't happen because Yoda is such a beloved character. It would be like if in the new Indiana Jones movie we find that Indy has joined the Nazis, or something like that (well maybe not THAT bad, but you know). Lots of people would be really pissed.
If a slightly different version of this plot existed, where Yoda doesn't actually have evil intentions and isn't really working with the the Sith, then maybe there's a chance. Like Vader and Obi-wan decided Yoda needed to be curbed but not because he was evil. I dunno.
Well, Adobe's brought a good number of products over to Mac OS X, whereas Quark's one product is not only still OS 9, but as a real insult Quark released version 5.0 for OS 9 long after everyone had begun bringing out OS X ports.
So I say, Adobe has earned it in this case. Just my opinion.
Anyway, if there was a bit more backlash for big mistakes, MS might be motivated to emphasize security over features. I think if a lot of their software wasn't so unnecessarily stuffed with features, fewer bad holes would crop up.
If microsoft offered free upgrades to customers who hold a flawed version of their software that they refuse to fix then all of their software would be basically "buy once, and recieve free upgrades for life"
Well, that sounds like an excellent motivator to try harder to get it right the first time!
My daughter has a ton of games that she loves that don't work properly in the Classic sandbox.
The thing I just can't believe is how Apple will be coming to your house January 1st and getting rid of the machine she is using now to play those games.
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Hey, even better, why not go as "rm -rf"? Just go over to the party and throw everybody out, and don't answer any questions about what is going on. Oh, and then I guess you'd have to delete the "directory" as well, so you'd need to burn the house down. Hmmm, I'm going to re-think this and get back to you.
It wasn't generic techno music, it was the main theme from "Run Lola Run".
This is fairly ridiculous.
Yes, Apple is a business. The business isn't there to make us happy and protect our rights. However, it does happen to believe that doing these two things is in the company's best financial interests. So they are doing great things such as this shunning of the DRM. Why does it make a difference if Apple is doing this out of love for humanity or because it just makes sense? It doesn't change the fact that it is a Good Thing, and seems to be a trend with Apple these days.
It's just like with legislation. If our Congressmen voted against DRM, I wouldn't care if it was purely out of the desire for votes in their next election and didn't care a whit about actually helping people. So long as they are motivated to do the best thing for the people.
If you found out some major app or utility for Linux was made by a programmer who didn't give a crap about freedom or rights, but just wanted to have that app for free (read: motivated by money), would you discourage people from using it?
I think we more or less agree on this topic...
I just think those areas that you mentioned OS X not working well are areas that Apple has improved greatly and (IMO) even surpassed any other OSes' way of doing them.
Now maybe the whole way of doing things is not good enough in your opinion, but I just think to specifically say OS X is bad at these things is misleading. Apple is leading the pack.
No, in 300 years we'll all be listening to the music of Wyld Stallyns!
Didn't you watch Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure?
Yes: Apple! But seriously, what I mean is Jaguar with Rendezvous gets most of this working for you.
It's all in the network preference pane. I haven't had any confusion with dial-up or direct Ethernet. I haven't done PPPoE but it's right there as an option. It's definitely more intuitive than anything else out there, IMO.
I did install the printers myself. This is our home network. The printer I have hooked up to my computer I had to plug in. Then it worked. Printers that were hooked up to other computers in the house that I had just installed Jaguar on suddenly were available as well. It just found the Laserwriter's IP automatically. This stuff is new in Jaguar.
I mean, yes, if I didn't even plug in the network right or something then there would be problems.
What I said is completely relevant as it shows that, unlike Linux, OS X is rapidly changing any things that are difficult to use, such that 90% of your complaints have already been addressed by the time you are airing them here, and are better than anything out there.
I'm not saying it is utter perfection, but I feel like these are areas where OS X/Jaguar particularly shines.
Some people like the joy of tinkering with recipes and making their own food. Other people just want to eat something delicious and be waited on, and get on with more important things in life.
To set up Airport I selected "Airport Active" from the menu bar.
To set up the computer to the network I plugged it in. Automatic setup. (If I needed to configure manually it is just System Prefs->Network.)
To set it up for the printer, I... well, I didn't do ANYTHING. That's right. I did nothing. From the first time I clicked print, there is a dropdown menu with the names of all the printers on the network, some I didn't even realize were hooked up.
Honestly, not only are these things not hard on OS X, but I couldn't imagine them being easier!
Yes, that's definitely used informally and in conversation, but in the case of professional journalism, the rules are more strict.
Perhaps I should use your example of quotes and say Slashdot "journalism".
(Har har!)
This is paraphrasing him. They are saying that Ballmer said that or something like that. IF they had used quotes, that would mean he really used those exact words.
I would definitely go with something that returns the system to a default state on reboot as opposed to locking down the whole thing. In our Mac lab at my school, we used Assimilator. You can actually use the desktop and download a little program or two if you want, and on reboot, the system syncs back to a default state. Works great.
Nobody's talking about restricting freedom of speech. I don't think the original comment was trying to say that it should be illegal to publicly announce a hole you've found. You can tell the company or make it public, but don't expect the company to be so appreciative if you do the latter. Sounds reasonable to me.
It's called a joke.
I don't know where you went to school, but using contractions when you write papers is frowned upon.
It's true, that's the worst part of it. I mean, when you are typing, does "r u" really save a significant amount of time over "are you"? People think it is clever and makes them feel like they are down with computers, IMO.
Sorry, I didn't make it clear that I meant he is too beloved by people who watch the movie. I didn't mean he was beloved plot-wise. I feel like most people who watch the movie just would really dislike making Yoda an evil character. Plot-wise it's very interesting, and there have been many other cases where a supposedly good character turns out to be bad in a movie, but I feel like Yoda is kind of untouchable in this regard... just my feeling.
Yeah I like that idea. A flawed Yoda, but not an evil Yoda.
Considering how much he was against Luke knowing anything about his father or the jedi, or going to the academy, or finding out who Ben Kenobi really was, I'd say he would be a bit against the idea of purchasing C3PO, memories intact or not.
This is an extremely interesting twist in the plot, but I don't think it has any chance of happening. Not because of Lucas's ego or anything like that though. I think it won't happen because Yoda is such a beloved character. It would be like if in the new Indiana Jones movie we find that Indy has joined the Nazis, or something like that (well maybe not THAT bad, but you know). Lots of people would be really pissed.
If a slightly different version of this plot existed, where Yoda doesn't actually have evil intentions and isn't really working with the the Sith, then maybe there's a chance. Like Vader and Obi-wan decided Yoda needed to be curbed but not because he was evil. I dunno.
Just my thoughts.
Have you seen this guy lately?? He looks like he's ashamed of his human origins.
Well, Adobe's brought a good number of products over to Mac OS X, whereas Quark's one product is not only still OS 9, but as a real insult Quark released version 5.0 for OS 9 long after everyone had begun bringing out OS X ports.
So I say, Adobe has earned it in this case. Just my opinion.
I was just kidding.
Anyway, if there was a bit more backlash for big mistakes, MS might be motivated to emphasize security over features. I think if a lot of their software wasn't so unnecessarily stuffed with features, fewer bad holes would crop up.
Well, that sounds like an excellent motivator to try harder to get it right the first time!
Incorrect! "It's" can also be a contraction of "it has", as in "it's been a long time since I've seen you".
Boy, what an idiot! You didn't know that??
Huh, what do you mean I missed the point?
The thing I just can't believe is how Apple will be coming to your house January 1st and getting rid of the machine she is using now to play those games.