Before someone yells "Oh my, you could compare the rise of aids cases to lost sales and your graph would look the same" just shut up ok? Just shut the fuck up because you're another useless slashdot tool spouting the same "I HAVE A RIGHT TO STEAL OTHERS WORK" retoric that I've read on this fucking site for the last 10 years. There is a direct correlation between piracy and lost sales, I've seen it. Grow up.
No, no. I think you're on to something here. I'm going to plot the rate of "piracy" (heck - even piracy) and the decline of auto sales. Piracy just might be undermining the auto industry as well!
I already waste enough time posting. No, I'm not going to search out every tiny little thing.
Have you ever considered a career in local or even national news? You seem to have an aptitude for it; not willing to let things like easily researched facts get in the way of your chance to write about the subject.
He maintained access to a system which he had no right to access, while refusing to give the owners of that system the means to remove his access in a manner that wouldn't significantly disrupt the service.
Now hold on a minute. How is he maintaining access to a system he had no right to access? Because he knew privileged credentials?
There was a time awhile back where we were doing audits of privileged accounts on infrastructure systems. There was a rather big stir when one account was found tucked away in the remote access system for an apparent "hacker". As it turned out, a variation of a former admin's real name happened to include the word "hacker" if you didn't understand the context. He hadn't worked there for years. Yet his account he had used to appropriately manage a system he was responsible for still existed. He could have logged in at any given time since he left.
Are you saying the incompetence of a former employer and either their inability to follow, or even lack of, proper procedures can become a liability of the former employee?
So the system is set up with a huge, fixable flaw. So, fix it. But no, they'd rather lynch someone. Why aren't they also suing Cisco for having put such a nasty flawed feature in their products?
No, the system was set up as intended using a well-known, well-understood security feature. It will not "brick" the hardware. Please feel free to re-read the post you replied to and, for further insight, do some basic Googling. It is a lack of understanding that is the cornerstone of this whole fiasco.
The suggestion by dbill to read "The Hacker Crackdown" is good. But I'll throw in some more insight.
There are some WAGs (wild ass guess) involved. But there's real numbers too. The problem is whether these numbers are really appropriate.
A part of the money spent on these incidents probably should have been spent before they became emergencies. Like everything else, preventive measures are not only cheaper but less damaging in the long run. Instead, moneys are spent from emergency funds paying emergency rates for contractors who charge a lot to deal with high pressure situations. And, of course, money that should have been spent to do these things before they became an incident get tagged on to the bill.
The second gotcha is evidence. Law enforcement (especially Feds) will seize equipment to maintain it as evidence of the intended-to-be-prosecuted crime. It is more common now to eventually return what can be returned and withhold hard drives, etc. Nevertheless, equipment is out of service for, at least, some time and must be replaced. That replacement gets tacked on to the bill.
It's better than outsourcing. Every time outsourcing comes up, people say, "Oh, these bastard firms are too cheap to actually train American workers!".
You might want to go back and re-read those complaints. Usually the complaint is that the "bastard firms" are too cheap to HIRE American workers.
When you pay for news, you are the customer. When your news is advertiser supported, you are the product being served to the customers, the advertisers.
When I buy a newspaper today, I am not the customer. I simply paid for the media on which I have been delivered to the advertisers.
When I got to the theatre to watch a movie, these days it appears I am no longer the customer. I sit through various commercials, not just for snack-bar fair and the next blockbuster, but for things like laundry soap. I have rented space in which I am being delivered to advertisers.
I'm not so sure that when I pay out to the AP, they won't find another way to ensure I am delivered to a better source of revenue.
Kinda like some of the WinXP and Vista options I've seen recently. Seriously. I'd see some themed WinXP desktop and I'd wonder what Linux distro they're using.
More importantly, Dederer sees the value of bringing distribution control back to the bands themselves. "If all the rights to the masters and the publishing are containedâ"if the artist has control of them or the label has control of them, they can sell music in this entirely new format," said Dederer, "The first one we're doing is for my band, The Presidents... you can sort of pump anything in there that you want, at random. Maybe we'll put my bandmate Chris Ballow's answering machine message on there... it becomes an open conduit to the fans to promote tours... and include links to the band's blog."
What an amazingly new concept. I guess just having a web page wouldn't get you the $2.99 up front.
I hate things like that. I play to win, maintaining that constant advantage is important and the difficult part of being good. Given a handicap because you didn't fuck up makes it pointless to give it your all.
-- UT 03/04/3 player
To each his own. As for myself, I play for the challenge. Handicaps are very useful if you want to maintain a challenge within a mixed skill environment. Getting that handicap is a badge of honor - even more so when you succeed with it. And in any case, at the end of the game, there's the scoreboard if you really need to have your ego stroked.
Wait - did you just call Hulu and archipelago while saying that iTunes, cable, and satellite were not? Do you really think iTunes is any different than Hulu? How is one aggregating content any more or less than the other? And the Cable and/or Satellite providers are somehow open?
There is DEFINITELY something else more nefarious going on here, but it's impossible to say what.
I'd say it's easy to make a guess; bureaucracy and government with a side of IT / Infosec. I've seen it elsewhere. A government bureaucrat lacking an understanding of a very technical situation and associated mindset interprets things in the most outlandishly malevolent way. They then reach for the one big stick they're intimately familiar with - the law.
Actually he was right. You inherited your native language from your parents and will pass it on to your children, but don't have any English/Spanish/Mandarin/whatever genes. Language is an inheritable acquired trait, as is all culture.
And here I thought language was something that was taught.
How cares? If they can't profit from your data why should they even bother to keep it? Just toss it out like a cryogenic storage farm that doesn't want to buy any more liquid nitrogen.
We're now in an age where storage is cheap. We can afford to store relatively massive amounts of information based on the possibility that it might be valuable at one point. Then we index that information in various ways - possibly new ways in the future that we hadn't thought of before. Finally, we cross-reference all these indexes to come up with additional information that would normally be hidden in the noise or not normally associated with the initial information collected. It's called data mining. And it's not entirely a new concept.
The US military has a concept called EEFI (Essential Elements of Friendly Information). The common definition is:
Key questions likely to be asked by adversary officials and intelligence systems about specific friendly intentions, capabilities, and activities, so they can obtain answers critical to their operational effectiveness. Also called EEFI.
What this means is that unclassified pieces of information can be aggregated to uncover classified information. Let's say CNN reports that there is a possible conflict between NationA and NationB where the US has announced support for the tropical nation of NationB. Meanwhile, agents monitoring BaseX have noticed that the troops have gone to 12hr shifts. Troops seen at the local Superstore have a sudden increased interest in purchasing clothing and supplies for a warm climate. Transport aircraft are seen flying in to BaseX. Agents are able to take these various unclassified pieces of information and uncover the classified orders that Units from BaseX are about to deploy to NationB. Agents also know the types of missions these units train for and will be able to further predict US intentions and capabilities in the region.
Back to our personal lives. The value of our personal information about those lives isn't in the particular individual. It's in the ability to feed to a massive data pool that is then mined to uncover aspects of our lives that we never intended to make public.
The difference between Apple and Microsoft is that Microsoft is on top and we are not about to root for them.
You're wrong on that. There are plenty of people who root for Microsoft. Look around the IT industry a bit. The place is lousy with Microsoft fans.
Yeah, sure. Some of Microsoft's "critics" are bandwagon "fight the Man" counter-popularity types. But if you look around IT, you'll find other monster names that don't get the attention Microsoft does. It's more than being big.
I'm inclined to think that we care about Microsoft because they affect us. When Apple does something under-handed, it affects us far less. So it's easy to shrug off Apple's misdeeds. If Apple took the #1 slot, we'd care for the exact same reason. Not because they're popular. But because they now wield the big stick that touches us all.
Oh, and they do actually try to make a quality product, but is that an inherent feature of Apple computer, or simply a result of being #2? (heh heh)
Apple has always had an aspect of quality going. I can see why they get a loyal following. Of course, quality doesn't matter on a mass scale. And I've never been swayed to embrace Apple just because they make good stuff (or at least the good outweigh the bad for my own preferences).;)
Actually, I have personally found Microsoft to be more up front about security and other product flaws than Apple. Then again, there are so many of them...
I'd have to agree. But this has only come about because Microsoft has had their feet held to the fire on it. It has gotten to the point that Microsoft stands to lose business over security issues. If they didn't improve, they'd have a full financial pitchfork-and-torches customer revolt tearing down at their sales figures sale by sale. So they've done a lot to improve that part of their business (overall effectiveness being a debatable point).
Once again, Apple doesn't have to because not enough people care. Heck - the cynical part of me wants to say that a good part of Apple's customer base is too busy drinking Koolaid to even think about where their pitchforks and torches are kept (Microsoft's Koolaid junkies are vocal but a smaller percentage of their customer base).
As the OP, I find this line of thought rather offensive. At no point did I claim that the "white race" is superior. At no point did I even mention race. I don't harbor any latent ideas that this is even remotely about race. It is, however, about culture. And the environment that influences it.
If you are incapable of discussing these influences without degrading to the banal backwards beliefs of superior blood then that is your issue, not mine. Please kindly refrain from putting words in my mouth with inane quotes.
Yes. That would be covered by my statement "People never lie. Not even about themselves." Thanks for restating the issue.:P
The problem here is that the subject themselves aren't necessarily any better a source of information than any other source of information. It's not that the subject isn't involved. Its a issue of looking for vetted sources.
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When's the last time you went shopping for enterprise / business software at Best Buy?
Heck - I don't even want to be dependent on a single vendor, much less a country.
Before someone yells "Oh my, you could compare the rise of aids cases to lost sales and your graph would look the same" just shut up ok? Just shut the fuck up because you're another useless slashdot tool spouting the same "I HAVE A RIGHT TO STEAL OTHERS WORK" retoric that I've read on this fucking site for the last 10 years. There is a direct correlation between piracy and lost sales, I've seen it. Grow up.
No, no. I think you're on to something here. I'm going to plot the rate of "piracy" (heck - even piracy) and the decline of auto sales. Piracy just might be undermining the auto industry as well!
OK. I see where you're coming from. After all, your idea allows me to reveal that I wrote 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.
I am also Spartacus.
I already waste enough time posting. No, I'm not going to search out every tiny little thing.
Have you ever considered a career in local or even national news? You seem to have an aptitude for it; not willing to let things like easily researched facts get in the way of your chance to write about the subject.
He maintained access to a system which he had no right to access, while refusing to give the owners of that system the means to remove his access in a manner that wouldn't significantly disrupt the service.
Now hold on a minute. How is he maintaining access to a system he had no right to access? Because he knew privileged credentials?
There was a time awhile back where we were doing audits of privileged accounts on infrastructure systems. There was a rather big stir when one account was found tucked away in the remote access system for an apparent "hacker". As it turned out, a variation of a former admin's real name happened to include the word "hacker" if you didn't understand the context. He hadn't worked there for years. Yet his account he had used to appropriately manage a system he was responsible for still existed. He could have logged in at any given time since he left.
Are you saying the incompetence of a former employer and either their inability to follow, or even lack of, proper procedures can become a liability of the former employee?
So the system is set up with a huge, fixable flaw. So, fix it. But no, they'd rather lynch someone. Why aren't they also suing Cisco for having put such a nasty flawed feature in their products?
No, the system was set up as intended using a well-known, well-understood security feature. It will not "brick" the hardware. Please feel free to re-read the post you replied to and, for further insight, do some basic Googling. It is a lack of understanding that is the cornerstone of this whole fiasco.
The suggestion by dbill to read "The Hacker Crackdown" is good. But I'll throw in some more insight.
There are some WAGs (wild ass guess) involved. But there's real numbers too. The problem is whether these numbers are really appropriate.
A part of the money spent on these incidents probably should have been spent before they became emergencies. Like everything else, preventive measures are not only cheaper but less damaging in the long run. Instead, moneys are spent from emergency funds paying emergency rates for contractors who charge a lot to deal with high pressure situations. And, of course, money that should have been spent to do these things before they became an incident get tagged on to the bill.
The second gotcha is evidence. Law enforcement (especially Feds) will seize equipment to maintain it as evidence of the intended-to-be-prosecuted crime. It is more common now to eventually return what can be returned and withhold hard drives, etc. Nevertheless, equipment is out of service for, at least, some time and must be replaced. That replacement gets tacked on to the bill.
It's better than outsourcing. Every time outsourcing comes up, people say, "Oh, these bastard firms are too cheap to actually train American workers!".
You might want to go back and re-read those complaints. Usually the complaint is that the "bastard firms" are too cheap to HIRE American workers.
When you pay for news, you are the customer. When your news is advertiser supported, you are the product being served to the customers, the advertisers.
When I buy a newspaper today, I am not the customer. I simply paid for the media on which I have been delivered to the advertisers.
When I got to the theatre to watch a movie, these days it appears I am no longer the customer. I sit through various commercials, not just for snack-bar fair and the next blockbuster, but for things like laundry soap. I have rented space in which I am being delivered to advertisers.
I'm not so sure that when I pay out to the AP, they won't find another way to ensure I am delivered to a better source of revenue.
Kinda like some of the WinXP and Vista options I've seen recently. Seriously. I'd see some themed WinXP desktop and I'd wonder what Linux distro they're using.
From the article:
What an amazingly new concept. I guess just having a web page wouldn't get you the $2.99 up front.
I hate things like that. I play to win, maintaining that constant advantage is important and the difficult part of being good. Given a handicap because you didn't fuck up makes it pointless to give it your all.
-- UT 03/04/3 player
To each his own. As for myself, I play for the challenge. Handicaps are very useful if you want to maintain a challenge within a mixed skill environment. Getting that handicap is a badge of honor - even more so when you succeed with it. And in any case, at the end of the game, there's the scoreboard if you really need to have your ego stroked.
Wait - did you just call Hulu and archipelago while saying that iTunes, cable, and satellite were not? Do you really think iTunes is any different than Hulu? How is one aggregating content any more or less than the other? And the Cable and/or Satellite providers are somehow open?
Keep posting as AC. You're missing nothing.
There is DEFINITELY something else more nefarious going on here, but it's impossible to say what.
I'd say it's easy to make a guess; bureaucracy and government with a side of IT / Infosec. I've seen it elsewhere. A government bureaucrat lacking an understanding of a very technical situation and associated mindset interprets things in the most outlandishly malevolent way. They then reach for the one big stick they're intimately familiar with - the law.
It should also be noted that Childs handed over passwords to the Mayor while in jail.
...and what's the deal with all these kids on my lawn, anyway?
Actually he was right. You inherited your native language from your parents and will pass it on to your children, but don't have any English/Spanish/Mandarin/whatever genes. Language is an inheritable acquired trait, as is all culture.
And here I thought language was something that was taught.
How cares? If they can't profit from your data why should they even bother to keep it? Just toss it out like a cryogenic storage farm that doesn't want to buy any more liquid nitrogen.
We're now in an age where storage is cheap. We can afford to store relatively massive amounts of information based on the possibility that it might be valuable at one point. Then we index that information in various ways - possibly new ways in the future that we hadn't thought of before. Finally, we cross-reference all these indexes to come up with additional information that would normally be hidden in the noise or not normally associated with the initial information collected. It's called data mining. And it's not entirely a new concept.
The US military has a concept called EEFI (Essential Elements of Friendly Information). The common definition is:
Key questions likely to be asked by adversary officials and intelligence systems about specific friendly intentions, capabilities, and activities, so they can obtain answers critical to their operational effectiveness. Also called EEFI.
What this means is that unclassified pieces of information can be aggregated to uncover classified information. Let's say CNN reports that there is a possible conflict between NationA and NationB where the US has announced support for the tropical nation of NationB. Meanwhile, agents monitoring BaseX have noticed that the troops have gone to 12hr shifts. Troops seen at the local Superstore have a sudden increased interest in purchasing clothing and supplies for a warm climate. Transport aircraft are seen flying in to BaseX. Agents are able to take these various unclassified pieces of information and uncover the classified orders that Units from BaseX are about to deploy to NationB. Agents also know the types of missions these units train for and will be able to further predict US intentions and capabilities in the region.
Back to our personal lives. The value of our personal information about those lives isn't in the particular individual. It's in the ability to feed to a massive data pool that is then mined to uncover aspects of our lives that we never intended to make public.
That includes all the former pieces of the Empire too, right?
The difference between Apple and Microsoft is that Microsoft is on top and we are not about to root for them.
You're wrong on that. There are plenty of people who root for Microsoft. Look around the IT industry a bit. The place is lousy with Microsoft fans.
Yeah, sure. Some of Microsoft's "critics" are bandwagon "fight the Man" counter-popularity types. But if you look around IT, you'll find other monster names that don't get the attention Microsoft does. It's more than being big.
I'm inclined to think that we care about Microsoft because they affect us. When Apple does something under-handed, it affects us far less. So it's easy to shrug off Apple's misdeeds. If Apple took the #1 slot, we'd care for the exact same reason. Not because they're popular. But because they now wield the big stick that touches us all.
Oh, and they do actually try to make a quality product, but is that an inherent feature of Apple computer, or simply a result of being #2? (heh heh)
Apple has always had an aspect of quality going. I can see why they get a loyal following. Of course, quality doesn't matter on a mass scale. And I've never been swayed to embrace Apple just because they make good stuff (or at least the good outweigh the bad for my own preferences). ;)
Actually, I have personally found Microsoft to be more up front about security and other product flaws than Apple. Then again, there are so many of them...
I'd have to agree. But this has only come about because Microsoft has had their feet held to the fire on it. It has gotten to the point that Microsoft stands to lose business over security issues. If they didn't improve, they'd have a full financial pitchfork-and-torches customer revolt tearing down at their sales figures sale by sale. So they've done a lot to improve that part of their business (overall effectiveness being a debatable point).
Once again, Apple doesn't have to because not enough people care. Heck - the cynical part of me wants to say that a good part of Apple's customer base is too busy drinking Koolaid to even think about where their pitchforks and torches are kept (Microsoft's Koolaid junkies are vocal but a smaller percentage of their customer base).
Bah. Slap down an Ed Meese and tell them to keep the change.
As the OP, I find this line of thought rather offensive. At no point did I claim that the "white race" is superior. At no point did I even mention race. I don't harbor any latent ideas that this is even remotely about race. It is, however, about culture. And the environment that influences it.
If you are incapable of discussing these influences without degrading to the banal backwards beliefs of superior blood then that is your issue, not mine. Please kindly refrain from putting words in my mouth with inane quotes.
Yes. That would be covered by my statement "People never lie. Not even about themselves." Thanks for restating the issue. :P
The problem here is that the subject themselves aren't necessarily any better a source of information than any other source of information. It's not that the subject isn't involved. Its a issue of looking for vetted sources.
Ahh. I see now. Thanks for the correction.