Conjecture: His parents own a bakery but his favorite uncle is a physics professor at MIT.
Ok, now lets assume he did come up with this idea on his own...the thing is, sometimes it takes someone who has fresh ideas to come in and shake things up. I'd like to know more about what makes his invention different than what was there before.
I gave my daughter her own queue for her birthday. And now Netflix is taking it away. Good thing I didn't get her a pony or Netflix would probably come shoot it in the head.
But seriously, 1%? Most of the people I know use these things to separate their queue from their significant other or their kids. The 1% number makes no sense.
Gee I thought IE sucked...maybe it's because IE is ugly and it has a bug which causes it to neglect to display graphics on my WinNT box. So I downloaded Netscape and it's better looking, easier to use and about the same speed.
In my heart I feel that you have no idea what you're talking about. However logically I know that this all comes down to personal preferance and luck - you should try to keep those straight.
I hate to be incindiary but you strike me as a great example of someone who thinks he knows much more than he really does. What you don't seem to understand about Gnome is that it is intended to be flexible enough to encompass a number of paradigms. CORBA is just one part of Gnome.
The rest of what you say is mostly FUD...I haven't had Gnome lock up in months...Enlightenment and Gnome work very nicely together. Don't get me wrong, there are improvements to be done but things are improving. If more people like you would stop complaining about problems with Gnome and start working on them most of the problems would be gone by now.
As it is you are doing nobody any good at all...thanks for nothing.
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It looks like I saw the numbers misquoted someplace. Pheww! They only lost $130,000 which isn't bad considering how much promotion they do and development they fund... I have to say in reply to one of the messages here: Sure another distrobution could take over for Redhat the question is could they afford to pay Alan Cox and all the other guys that currently work for Redhat? The other consideration is that businesses tend to associate Redhat with Linux so if Redhat went out of business they would see it as a repudiation of Linux...stupid yes, but that's how they would almost certainly perceive it. It wouldn't be the end of the world but it would be a setback.
I saw something about how Redhat made 11M$ last year and lost 130M$. It makes you wonder if it was a choice of IPO or chapter 11...I hear lots of people talking about how much money they can save by downloading Redhat for free but I don't see anything about people saying "maybe we should give something back to Redhat for everything they've done to promote and further Linux and open source." It worries me...if Redhat goes bankrupt it will set Linux back 6 years in the minds of business people and it will cause a lot of people who were wavering to fall back over on the Microsoft side. Perhaps I'm worried about nothing - I just hope Redhat hasn't overextended themselves - its a big chance they're taking...
Yeah I'm worried about this too but on the other hand these guys deserve some money and if they have enough money not to worry about day jobs alot more open source programs will hopefully get created. They just better keep controlling interest...
AFAIK RPMFind _is_ incorporated into GnoRPM. I haven't fiddled with it much but it looks very slick. The only problem is that it often takes packages a few days to appear on the RPMFind website. I tend to find RPMs a lot faster searching for them on Lycos (FTP search).
As far as Glint goes...when you install GnoRPM it automatically removes Glint. Wave bye-bye to Glint...say hello to GnoRPM.
Linux is a sexy name. GNU/Linux is not...it's hard to pronounce, it's hard to write...it may not seem like a big deal but having an unsexy name has brought down projects before.
I agree GNU should get more attention but this isn't the way to do it IMHO.
Brady
BTW: Does this mean any project that uses GNU code will not only have to be released under the GPL but also have "GNU" on the front?
People (especially Mac users) use the fact that Window$ is built on a command-line foundation as a sign of weakness. Actually it's a strength...the weakness comes from the fact that the foundation is DOS which is not a true foundation but a hack by some guy in Seattle (when it was QDOS). With the strong foundation of a UNIX OS (or UNIX-like) under it we can create powerful and friendly GUI driven programs without worrying that the system will topple under it's own weight. On the other hand we can also have powerful command-line tools without the useless (in some cases) overhead of a GUI.
The same sort of thing applies to user configuration. Developers can have defaults that defer to newbies while continuing to provide the power when needed. An example: the Gnome-find program. This program helps newbies do searches without having to learn the syntax all at once and if they want more power once they are more comfortable they can always use the command line interface. Let the user use the system first then delve into it's innards if they want once they are comfortable.
We never need to dumb-down Linux we just need to provide layers, strata of access. Here's another example - when I first setup my computer I installed it with a swap partition but the swap was never enabled. This caused my computer to crash with out-of memory errors. It didn't do very much for my appreciation for Linux's stability. It sure would have been nice if there was a program that went through my system and checked for things like that (ala Wintune). Obviously this kind of thing wouldn't be terribly useful to an experienced user (and they don't have to use it!) but it would have saved me literally months of frustration.
Perhaps part of the strength of the Linux/Opensource community is it's independance and it's desire to do things outside of the mainstream. Therefore once the community starts to become more mainstream it turns on itself. Witness the recent attacks on Redhat - a company which seems to be trying to do it's best for the community from everything I've seen.
I just want to point out that something like 50% of the businesses in America including my company can't afford Solaris (at least for departmental servers.) Our accounting system gets an HP-UX because we can't do without it but the Art dept needs a database with a lot of disk space and their budget is $15000. Try buying a Solaris for that much...we priced essentially identical systems from Sun and VA Research - it was $13k vs $75k. Once we told the Sun rep our price range he wouldn't even return our calls. Fine...Linux is what I run at home so I'm comfy with it. I know problems will be fixed promptly (at least OS related ones) and I don't have to worry about buying more license if we decide to put another department on it.
I bow down before RMS. I read "Hackers" in High School and never looked back. Nevertheless every time he complains about this Gnu/Linux thing I cringe. It sounds so much like he just wants personal attention. Linus should probably send more attention over Robert's (and Gnu's) way but really somebody has got to take him aside and tell him that his ranting is just going to result in his own marginalization.
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Conjecture: His parents own a bakery but his favorite uncle is a physics professor at MIT.
Ok, now lets assume he did come up with this idea on his own...the thing is, sometimes it takes someone who has fresh ideas to come in and shake things up. I'd like to know more about what makes his invention different than what was there before.
I gave my daughter her own queue for her birthday. And now Netflix is taking it away. Good thing I didn't get her a pony or Netflix would probably come shoot it in the head.
But seriously, 1%? Most of the people I know use these things to separate their queue from their significant other or their kids. The 1% number makes no sense.
Here's a story about some of the software involved.
Brady
Gnome Freecell is almost indistinguishable from Windows Freecell. All you'd have to do is figure out how to copy the score file over.
Gee I thought IE sucked...maybe it's because IE is ugly and it has a bug which causes it to neglect to display graphics on my WinNT box. So I downloaded Netscape and it's better looking, easier to use and about the same speed.
In my heart I feel that you have no idea what you're talking about. However logically I know that this all comes down to personal preferance and luck - you should try to keep those straight.
I hate to be incindiary but you strike me as a great example of someone who thinks he knows much more than he really does. What you don't seem to understand about Gnome is that it is intended to be flexible enough to encompass a number of paradigms. CORBA is just one part of Gnome.
The rest of what you say is mostly FUD...I haven't had Gnome lock up in months...Enlightenment and Gnome work very nicely together. Don't get me wrong, there are improvements to be done but things are improving. If more people like you would stop complaining about problems with Gnome and start working on them most of the problems would be gone by now.
As it is you are doing nobody any good at all...thanks for nothing.
It looks like I saw the numbers misquoted someplace. Pheww! They only lost $130,000 which isn't bad considering how much promotion they do and development they fund... I have to say in reply to one of the messages here: Sure another distrobution could take over for Redhat the question is could they afford to pay Alan Cox and all the other guys that currently work for Redhat? The other consideration is that businesses tend to associate Redhat with Linux so if Redhat went out of business they would see it as a repudiation of Linux...stupid yes, but that's how they would almost certainly perceive it. It wouldn't be the end of the world but it would be a setback.
I saw something about how Redhat made 11M$ last year and lost 130M$. It makes you wonder if it was a choice of IPO or chapter 11...I hear lots of people talking about how much money they can save by downloading Redhat for free but I don't see anything about people saying "maybe we should give something back to Redhat for everything they've done to promote and further Linux and open source." It worries me...if Redhat goes bankrupt it will set Linux back 6 years in the minds of business people and it will cause a lot of people who were wavering to fall back over on the Microsoft side. Perhaps I'm worried about nothing - I just hope Redhat hasn't overextended themselves - its a big chance they're taking...
There's some info here:- announce-list/1999-April/0028.shtml
m e-mailer-list/
http://www.gnome.org/mailing-lists/archives/gnome
Here's the mailing list archive:
http://www.gnome.org/mailing-lists/archives/gno
Yeah I'm worried about this too but on the other hand these guys deserve some money and if they have enough money not to worry about day jobs alot more open source programs will hopefully get created. They just better keep controlling interest...
AFAIK RPMFind _is_ incorporated into GnoRPM. I haven't fiddled with it much but it looks very slick. The only problem is that it often takes packages a few days to appear on the RPMFind website. I tend to find RPMs a lot faster searching for them on Lycos (FTP search).
As far as Glint goes...when you install GnoRPM it automatically removes Glint. Wave bye-bye to Glint...say hello to GnoRPM.
Linux is a sexy name. GNU/Linux is not...it's hard to pronounce, it's hard to write...it may not seem like a big deal but having an unsexy name has brought down projects before.
I agree GNU should get more attention but this isn't the way to do it IMHO.
Brady
BTW: Does this mean any project that uses GNU code will not only have to be released under the GPL but also have "GNU" on the front?
People (especially Mac users) use the fact that Window$ is built on a command-line foundation as a sign of weakness. Actually it's a strength...the weakness comes from the fact that the foundation is DOS which is not a true foundation but a hack by some guy in Seattle (when it was QDOS). With the strong foundation of a UNIX OS (or UNIX-like) under it we can create powerful and friendly GUI driven programs without worrying that the system will topple under it's own weight. On the other hand we can also have powerful command-line tools without the useless (in some cases) overhead of a GUI.
The same sort of thing applies to user configuration. Developers can have defaults that defer to newbies while continuing to provide the power when needed. An example: the Gnome-find program. This program helps newbies do searches without having to learn the syntax all at once and if they want more power once they are more comfortable they can always use the command line interface. Let the user use the system first then delve into it's innards if they want once they are comfortable.
We never need to dumb-down Linux we just need to provide layers, strata of access. Here's another example - when I first setup my computer I installed it with a swap partition but the swap was never enabled. This caused my computer to crash with out-of memory errors. It didn't do very much for my appreciation for Linux's stability. It sure would have been nice if there was a program that went through my system and checked for things like that (ala Wintune). Obviously this kind of thing wouldn't be terribly useful to an experienced user (and they don't have to use it!) but it would have saved me literally months of frustration.
Perhaps part of the strength of the Linux/Opensource community is it's independance and it's desire to do things outside of the mainstream. Therefore once the community starts to become more mainstream it turns on itself. Witness the recent attacks on Redhat - a company which seems to be trying to do it's best for the community from everything I've seen.
I just want to point out that something like 50% of the businesses in America including my company can't afford Solaris (at least for departmental servers.) Our accounting system gets an HP-UX because we can't do without it but the Art dept needs a database with a lot of disk space and their budget is $15000. Try buying a Solaris for that much...we priced essentially identical systems from Sun and VA Research - it was $13k vs $75k. Once we told the Sun rep our price range he wouldn't even return our calls. Fine...Linux is what I run at home so I'm comfy with it. I know problems will be fixed promptly (at least OS related ones) and I don't have to worry about buying more license if we decide to put another department on it.
I bow down before RMS. I read "Hackers" in High School and never looked back. Nevertheless every time he complains about this Gnu/Linux thing I cringe. It sounds so much like he just wants personal attention. Linus should probably send more attention over Robert's (and Gnu's) way but really somebody has got to take him aside and tell him that his ranting is just going to result in his own marginalization.