Transphobia. Using a picture of a transperson in a derogatory way, is not cool, even if it's Jennifer Usher.
Usher has been pushing a transphobic hate agenda on the Internet for almost a decade. Hence the label "transquisling". Usher spent years attacking other people in news groups strictly based on their appearance, all the while claiming that "unlike them", that Usher "passed as a woman at work." When I got fed up with Usher attacking several others back in the middle of the last decade, I exposed Usher's claims about passing at work as a lie. Usher is only getting what Usher has been dishing out for a decade. Karma is a bitch.
People should not be judged on their appearance - I've said that many times. However, if someone is going to attack someone for years else based on their appearance (as Usher did to Willow and others), they'd better not be living in a glass house.
Your post raised the issue of legitimacy. People have traditionally ascribed more legitimacy to print than to on-line media. The online yellow pages gets a "halo effect" from the print version - it's part of how they sell it to advertisers.
Additionally, your original post fails in another respect - "Yellow Pages" is trademarked - if it's using the term "Yellow Pages", it's under license, so "figuring out which of the 1x10^3 online versions are legit" isn't that much of an issue.
As another poster pointed out - no swearing, no nudity, and I'll add that there's no racism, no Nazi stuff (just in case someone in france wants to take a look), no religious stuff (neither the Pope nor Mohammed), no links to affiliate programs, it's not an ad trying to sell you anything, or an illegal download, or anything else. It's even hosted at google, so no drive-by downloads.
So join me the next time they deliver the yellow pages to "inform" YP advertisers - it's a waste, and the yellow pages reps lie (I've dealt with them).
I don't use the online yellow pages. They're just as junky.
I use this thing called a search engine. There are hundreds of them out there - free.
And a yellow pge listing is no guarantee of it being legit. The lawyer who had the exterior back cover (color) and a two-page color spread for several years on a 4" thick phone directory is now on the lam for embezzlement.
> The phone book doesn't require power.
a. This has other advantages beyond the obvious "save the electricity bill". Nobody in history has ever tripped over the phone book's power cable.
[X] The phone book requires power to read when you really need it. Backed-up toilets don't just happen during daylight.
[X] Granny got a hernia lifting the phonebook, you insensitive clod!
Telephone books used as police torture devices: On a more serious note, a couple of heavy phone books was a preferred police interrogation method. Phone book on desk, head sideways on phone book, second phone book on top, then WHAM. No marks. Lots of teens, as well as adults, got "the telephone book treatment." The result is painful, and repeated abuses of this sort led to the disbanding of police station 10 in Montreal.
> The phone book can't crash.
[X] Sure it can. Spill coffee on it and it's worse than spilling coffee on your keyboard. It ruins your data.
> It's vanishingly unlikely that the normal, day-to-day use of the phone book will result in some scrote in Russia gaining access to her phone book. And even if it did, the only information in there is publicly available anyway.
[X] I run linux, you insensitive clod!
> The phone book doesn't take 2 minutes to start up.
[X] Neither does a cell phone with a browser. And the cell phone weighs a LOT less.
> The phone book doesn't occasionally - and for no reason that is apparent to your gran - pop up unintelligible messages.
[X] I run linux, you insensitive clod!
[X] grnmda is dead, (at least I *hope* she's dead - otherwise she's really going to be pissed off because we buried her), you insensitive clod!
> It's very familiar technology.
> It's easy for your gran to tell the difference between an advert and a normal listing in the phone book.
[X] Because they come in two different books? That's pretty obvious.
[X] Granny can't check to tell if its a legit ad or from a fly-by-night just with the phone book.
> Why does gran care that some random stranger knows what numbers she's looking up? Hell, it's quite likely she strongly dislikes the idea.
[X] grannies can use scroogle too, you insensitive clod!
> Making the text bigger can be accomplished using this amazing piece of technology called a magnifying glass. It's intuitive, it doesn't require significant training to learn and you don't have to memorise some obscure key combination to make it happen.
[x] Try to use a magnifying glass to read fine print, especially if you're old, cataracts, or hand tremors, you insensitive clod!
[X] Granny has alzheimers and can't remember wtf she put the magnifying glass, you insensitive clod!
> The phone book doesn't add £15/month to your phone bill. (No idea how much a basic DSL service would cost in the US)
[X] Granny can use the internet for more than just looking up phone numbers, you insensitive clod!
> If you're not quite sure of the spelling of someone's name but know the first few letters are correct it's fairly easy to find what you're looking for in the phone book. I've yet to see an internet-based telephone directory which allows you to browse based on the first few letters (though I'm happy to be proven wrong).
[X] You haven't tried, you insensitive clode!
Seriously, they do searches on just the first few letters. Try it.
> I've never yet seen a telephone book that required a friendly neighbour to perform routine maintenance - nor a phone book which never quite worked properly after it transpired that the friendly neighbour didn't know as much as they claimed.
[X] I run linux, you insensitive clod!
Also, the phone book requires a complete re-format and re-install every year, unlike linux:-)
Add to the trees the additional transportation and delivery costs - those suckers are heavy!
There are people who have phoned the teleco and told them to come pick up their litter - and made them do it! Littering (and just dumping an unsolicited phone book on the door stoop IS littering) can get them a fine.
If you can't get a signal, you're mot going to be making a phone call, are you?
Oh wait - you're great-grandma - stuck in the time of land lines.
I didn't know you were still alive - I hope you're not too pissed off that we buried you years ago. Maybe you can use the Yellow Pages to order a pizza while we decide if we want to dig you up.
Business directory will still be delivered because that's its *revenue model*. Businesses *pay* to be listed in these books. If they are not delivered to customers, then why would businesses pay to be included in them?
Not for long! i emailed them last year and told them that if they EVER deliver another yellow pages to my door, to contact the biggest advertisers and tell them why the Yellow Pages are useless, and why I won't be buying from them. Then I'll bug everyone I know to do the same. Maybe we'll set up a web site and put up a prize - a couple of hundred bucks and some other prizes for the person who contacts the most advertisers and tells them to shove their Yellow Pages ads.
I haven't used them in a decade. And I'm sure that older people don't use them because most of the smaller ads are too small for their eyes, whereas they can change the font size on-screen easily. Granny knows how to use a computer nowadays. It's not 1980 any more.
Or they could be assuming the City of London, in the UK, which is the smallest city in the UK (just over a mile square), and has a tiny population (less than 8,000).
Lesson: Whenever a poster says "Mark my words" in bold type, there's absolutely no chance that he'll admit that he's wrong when events don't go his way.
Mark my words, somebody will click on this link and regret it.
why assume that apple would send the ads over the one pipeline that costs, instead of the plurality of pipelines that don't cost?
All end up costing.
If they cache them on the device, they cost the user storage space - and these are devices that, by todays standards, are woefully under spec for storage (16 to 64 gig, no ability to expand it or add additional storage media).
a few advertisers looking for a higher-end market.
Apple is no longer "the high-end market". Computers are commodity devices. Apple's most pimped-out iPad costs less than an entry level computer a decade ago.
Apple's biggest customers are cheap thieves. They'll buy an iPod, but they sure as hell didn't pay for the billions of bits of mp3s on them. Apple made its nut by aiding large-scale copyright violations.
Apple customers are sheep. "I bought an iPad!" That'sa nice. Too bad that everything you can do with it, I can do much better with a 4-year-old laptop.
Watch hi-def movies? You can't do that - downscaled to 1028x576 is not high def. Apple lied to you, sucker. But I can watch hi-def on my laptop, and with a 17" screen, others can watch them easier too. And I can pop in a dvd. Can you? Aw, so your dvd collection is inaccessible now. So much for being a "media tablet." Speaking of which, how's your webcam? Oops, you don't have one.
You bought the iPad with 64 gigs of storage? Big deal, my laptop has 640 gigs (twin 320 gig), plus if I need more, I can plug in all sorts of external storage.
Multi-tasking? You'll get "some" of that in your next update, I've got linux.
Software? You're locked into the App Store. The worst part - you paid to be locked in.
Funny how that 4-year-old laptop, at the same price even with the extra ram and hard disk, beats the pants off Apple's shiny new toy. Because the iPad is a toy.
The iPad is not for the "high-end" market - Apple stopped targeting them (people who would spend 10k on a pimped out mac for graphics work) a long time ago, Apple is just a consumer products company now.
If you can't type in paragraph tags, post ijn plain text mode. Nobody's going to bother reading a wall of text.
"The "Business Owner" ie; the Manager of IT and the CIO office of the given federal organization" - stop right there - this was a provincial body. Next time, RTFA, kthxx.
"I have yet to see a nice version of Linux working out of the box" - then you don't know what you're doing, so stop your bitching, please.
"try to find a team of 5 Linux and UNIX support guys that speak both English and french and have a security clearance and will work well with each other" thee-s no problem putting together a bilingual team. Get at least one person who can speak both official languages, and it doesn't matter if everyone else speaks Russian. Been there, done that.
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Then I would suggest you should check what's been going on in the newsgroup that Usher pulls the most crap in - a.s.srs.
You might also want to check Jennifer Usher: Part 1 - Attacking transsexuals and transgenders, Gov't worker: I can out people on my own time, Ushers threats to sue me (which started half a decade ago when I proved Usher was a liar), Usher's crapfest in my journal, trying to trivialize rape, trying to justify not calling it rape to another slashdotter, and lots more. (Note: slashdot fails to show all the posts because of a "too-deeply-nested" bug - go to a.s.srs for direct links.
Usher has been pushing a transphobic hate agenda on the Internet for almost a decade. Hence the label "transquisling". Usher spent years attacking other people in news groups strictly based on their appearance, all the while claiming that "unlike them", that Usher "passed as a woman at work." When I got fed up with Usher attacking several others back in the middle of the last decade, I exposed Usher's claims about passing at work as a lie. Usher is only getting what Usher has been dishing out for a decade. Karma is a bitch.
People should not be judged on their appearance - I've said that many times. However, if someone is going to attack someone for years else based on their appearance (as Usher did to Willow and others), they'd better not be living in a glass house.
Your post raised the issue of legitimacy. People have traditionally ascribed more legitimacy to print than to on-line media. The online yellow pages gets a "halo effect" from the print version - it's part of how they sell it to advertisers.
Additionally, your original post fails in another respect - "Yellow Pages" is trademarked - if it's using the term "Yellow Pages", it's under license, so "figuring out which of the 1x10^3 online versions are legit" isn't that much of an issue.
As another poster pointed out - no swearing, no nudity, and I'll add that there's no racism, no Nazi stuff (just in case someone in france wants to take a look), no religious stuff (neither the Pope nor Mohammed), no links to affiliate programs, it's not an ad trying to sell you anything, or an illegal download, or anything else. It's even hosted at google, so no drive-by downloads.
You did:
Email address or it didn't happen!
You mean it hasn't already?
It's not like anyone could ever have predicted this from, oh, the FAX SPAM problem?
How would you like to accidentally staple a printout of this to the last page of your report to the boss?
(nice way to thin out the competition at the office, though)
So join me the next time they deliver the yellow pages to "inform" YP advertisers - it's a waste, and the yellow pages reps lie (I've dealt with them).
I don't use the online yellow pages. They're just as junky.
I use this thing called a search engine. There are hundreds of them out there - free.
And a yellow pge listing is no guarantee of it being legit. The lawyer who had the exterior back cover (color) and a two-page color spread for several years on a 4" thick phone directory is now on the lam for embezzlement.
That problem will sort itself out over time.
In the meantime, he can call information.
"I'd call information, but my phone can't. It's one of those old rotary models. I can dial the 4, but not the 11 - it only goes up to 9!"
He's one of those who NEEDS to be able to crank it up to 11 :-)
He probably needs to dial information to ask "What's the number for 911".
Then he'll call back to complain "I got the 9 okay, but there's no eleven on my phone. Can you send me a non-defective phone?"
Take the following with a grain of salt :-)
> The phone book doesn't require power. a. This has other advantages beyond the obvious "save the electricity bill". Nobody in history has ever tripped over the phone book's power cable.
[X] The phone book requires power to read when you really need it. Backed-up toilets don't just happen during daylight.
[X] Granny got a hernia lifting the phonebook, you insensitive clod!
Telephone books used as police torture devices: On a more serious note, a couple of heavy phone books was a preferred police interrogation method. Phone book on desk, head sideways on phone book, second phone book on top, then WHAM. No marks. Lots of teens, as well as adults, got "the telephone book treatment." The result is painful, and repeated abuses of this sort led to the disbanding of police station 10 in Montreal.
> The phone book can't crash.
[X] Sure it can. Spill coffee on it and it's worse than spilling coffee on your keyboard. It ruins your data.
> It's vanishingly unlikely that the normal, day-to-day use of the phone book will result in some scrote in Russia gaining access to her phone book. And even if it did, the only information in there is publicly available anyway.
[X] I run linux, you insensitive clod!
> The phone book doesn't take 2 minutes to start up.
[X] Neither does a cell phone with a browser. And the cell phone weighs a LOT less.
> The phone book doesn't occasionally - and for no reason that is apparent to your gran - pop up unintelligible messages.
[X] I run linux, you insensitive clod!
[X] grnmda is dead, (at least I *hope* she's dead - otherwise she's really going to be pissed off because we buried her), you insensitive clod!
> It's very familiar technology.
> It's easy for your gran to tell the difference between an advert and a normal listing in the phone book.
[X] Because they come in two different books? That's pretty obvious.
[X] Granny can't check to tell if its a legit ad or from a fly-by-night just with the phone book.
> Why does gran care that some random stranger knows what numbers she's looking up? Hell, it's quite likely she strongly dislikes the idea.
[X] grannies can use scroogle too, you insensitive clod!
> Making the text bigger can be accomplished using this amazing piece of technology called a magnifying glass. It's intuitive, it doesn't require significant training to learn and you don't have to memorise some obscure key combination to make it happen.
[x] Try to use a magnifying glass to read fine print, especially if you're old, cataracts, or hand tremors, you insensitive clod!
[X] Granny has alzheimers and can't remember wtf she put the magnifying glass, you insensitive clod!
> The phone book doesn't add £15/month to your phone bill. (No idea how much a basic DSL service would cost in the US)
[X] Granny can use the internet for more than just looking up phone numbers, you insensitive clod!
> If you're not quite sure of the spelling of someone's name but know the first few letters are correct it's fairly easy to find what you're looking for in the phone book. I've yet to see an internet-based telephone directory which allows you to browse based on the first few letters (though I'm happy to be proven wrong).
[X] You haven't tried, you insensitive clode!
Seriously, they do searches on just the first few letters. Try it.
> I've never yet seen a telephone book that required a friendly neighbour to perform routine maintenance - nor a phone book which never quite worked properly after it transpired that the friendly neighbour didn't know as much as they claimed.
[X] I run linux, you insensitive clod!
Also, the phone book requires a complete re-format and re-install every year, unlike linux :-)
Add to the trees the additional transportation and delivery costs - those suckers are heavy!
There are people who have phoned the teleco and told them to come pick up their litter - and made them do it! Littering (and just dumping an unsolicited phone book on the door stoop IS littering) can get them a fine.
If you can't get a signal, you're mot going to be making a phone call, are you?
Oh wait - you're great-grandma - stuck in the time of land lines.
I didn't know you were still alive - I hope you're not too pissed off that we buried you years ago. Maybe you can use the Yellow Pages to order a pizza while we decide if we want to dig you up.
For grandma, the printed books are useless - she needs a magnifying glass to RTSFP (Read The Smudgy Fine Print).
We're all getting older.
Which is more effective?
12 advantages of the Internet over the Yellow Pages
The Yellow Pages are as obsolete as that old ColecoVision.
Not for long! i emailed them last year and told them that if they EVER deliver another yellow pages to my door, to contact the biggest advertisers and tell them why the Yellow Pages are useless, and why I won't be buying from them. Then I'll bug everyone I know to do the same. Maybe we'll set up a web site and put up a prize - a couple of hundred bucks and some other prizes for the person who contacts the most advertisers and tells them to shove their Yellow Pages ads.
I haven't used them in a decade. And I'm sure that older people don't use them because most of the smaller ads are too small for their eyes, whereas they can change the font size on-screen easily. Granny knows how to use a computer nowadays. It's not 1980 any more.
Die, Yellow Pages, Die.
Or they could be assuming the City of London, in the UK, which is the smallest city in the UK (just over a mile square), and has a tiny population (less than 8,000).
I've been complaining to them about this by email - I don't want your stupid phone book, or your yellow pages!!!
They go into the recycling bin, unopen.
Why should my municipality have to pay to recycle that crap?
As long as it can guarantee you don't get a certain single white female in San Francisco whose motto is "Living well is the best revenge".
Lady Rice-A-Roni - the "other" San Francisco treat.
London isn't necessarily where you think it is.
London, Ontario, Canada.
The London Bridge which was sold and shipped from the UK to Arizona.
London, Ohio
London, Kentucky.
London, Arizona
London, California.
There are more Londons in the US than in the UK.
Just release the code and let people play with it. The uni won't be able to block every site. Now that's Phat!
Mark my words, somebody will click on this link and regret it.
All end up costing.
If they cache them on the device, they cost the user storage space - and these are devices that, by todays standards, are woefully under spec for storage (16 to 64 gig, no ability to expand it or add additional storage media).
Apple is no longer "the high-end market". Computers are commodity devices. Apple's most pimped-out iPad costs less than an entry level computer a decade ago.
Apple's biggest customers are cheap thieves. They'll buy an iPod, but they sure as hell didn't pay for the billions of bits of mp3s on them. Apple made its nut by aiding large-scale copyright violations.
Apple customers are sheep. "I bought an iPad!" That'sa nice. Too bad that everything you can do with it, I can do much better with a 4-year-old laptop.
Watch hi-def movies? You can't do that - downscaled to 1028x576 is not high def. Apple lied to you, sucker. But I can watch hi-def on my laptop, and with a 17" screen, others can watch them easier too. And I can pop in a dvd. Can you? Aw, so your dvd collection is inaccessible now. So much for being a "media tablet." Speaking of which, how's your webcam? Oops, you don't have one.
You bought the iPad with 64 gigs of storage? Big deal, my laptop has 640 gigs (twin 320 gig), plus if I need more, I can plug in all sorts of external storage.
System memory? 256 meg - that's it?. 4 gigs on that 4-year old laptop.
Multi-tasking? You'll get "some" of that in your next update, I've got linux.
Software? You're locked into the App Store. The worst part - you paid to be locked in.
Funny how that 4-year-old laptop, at the same price even with the extra ram and hard disk, beats the pants off Apple's shiny new toy. Because the iPad is a toy.
The iPad is not for the "high-end" market - Apple stopped targeting them (people who would spend 10k on a pimped out mac for graphics work) a long time ago, Apple is just a consumer products company now.
Several points:
4x is not pocket change when you're dealing with thousands of transactions a second.