I don't know why they can't just use QOS on their own phone network. They could mark the first 2-5 GB of capacity as high priority, and then the rest low priority.
Option 3, with a limited speed (shaping) beyond the cap, is the most common in AU. One ISP allows the purchase of additional cap on demand to continue full speed but avoid surprise bills. (Disclaimer: I work for that ISP).
The solution that stops 90%+ spam is out there, but it costs a little money to implement. It's still less money than what we currently are spending fighting spam. Why do you assume ISPs aren't already doing this? 95%+ of email is spam, you just don't see it because the ISPs are in fact blocking. Problem is, the spammers can more easily add an order of magnitude more bots than we can add a order of magnitude better scanning.
Since when is 2x the storage and a high bandwith link b/w sites cheap? I didn't say cheap, I said relatively cheap. It's not much more than double the cost of your storage. If you don't have two lots of storage...how can you recover from a major failure quickly anyway? Get new equipment in? How long will take take to setup and restore from backup? Days?
Forgive my ignorance, but how would using a SAN have helped in this situation? Are you proposing that a single SAN storage net span multiple (remote) physical locations? And with SAN, can't a disk only be used by one computer at a time anyway? Master-slave SAN replication. Replicate all your data (not just databases) a/synchronously to a remote datacentre. If the primary fails, mount the slave SAN and serve from your DR datacentre servers. Voila, relatively cheap and easy way of ensuring a max of 10 minute downtime, while retaining up to the second data consistency no matter the source.
A megabit to the US costs $200 AUD plus, in bulk. Since no one is willing to pay thousands of dollars per month for a home connection, caps seem to be here to stay until this cost comes down. While Telstra have not helped, this is Southern Cross not Telstra.
The reason why some countries have cheap bandwidth to the home is the traffic is mostly local.
We have lived and worked this way for about 8 years. It's certainly improved our relationship skills, for example: fighting fair, knowing when you are in a bad mood and asking the other to leave you alone, and not taking (work) things personally. These are precisely the skills required of the astronauts for long term close confinement.
>> Other ISPs shape to 64 Kbps or 128 Kbps depending on plan. >128 Kbps is still slow, and shaping _seems_ to drop packets in a way that gives you severe end-to-end problems. Feels worse than an >overloaded 5.6Kbps dial up connection. My perception anyway.
Really, really shouldn't do. It's not done by dropping packets - at least in a decent ISP.
>ObDisclaimer: I use an Australian ISP which is not Telstra or Optus. Was working in Japan recently. When I saw their net deals and prices, I wept.
A lot of Japanese 'net access is to Japanese sites. Local bandwidth is cheap.
>BTW Highly recommended web site for people needing Australian Internet: whirlpool.net.au
> exceed your quota (which can be 200Mb, 500Gb, 1Gb, 3Gb, 10Gb, 30Gb depending on your ISP and plan
Try using a real ISP, which don't even offer plans of less than 8 GB.
> Telstra instead advertises cheap 200Mb quota accounts, and then charges customers $1.5 per Mb over that. If your kids discover bit torrent you're in for a big fat phonebill, and its your fault for not reading the fineprint.
More like 1.5c per MB. Still not pleasant.
Other ISPs shape to 64 Kbps or 128 Kbps depending on plan.
ObDisclaimer: I work for an Australian ISP which is not Telstra or Optus.
Not every part of the world has "unlimited" plans. In Australia plans are explicitly capped to a download limit, with shaping (read: 64kb) beyond that point (some plans charge, such as business plans). OTOH it is considered a fault if you do not receive full download speed at all times (when you aren't shaped). If you are a heavy user then you simply pay for a plan with more included download. I sync at 16 Mbps, and fully expect to receive that speed for the first 20 GB, with a predictable 64kbps after that.
> Sadly, most people in the US are no good at geography, just as tragic, most other citizens of the world can't comprehend why we > all seem to have cars and love to drive; it's because our country is freakin' huge. Not that it makes our wasteful US driving > habits any more acceptable, but hey - you gotta get there somehow.
Ahhh. Americans and your tiny states.
Area Area of Texas: 700,000 km2 (268,000 square miles) Area of Western Australia: 2,600,000 km2
Population density Texas: 30.75/km2 Western Australia: 0.79/km2
I installed a new firewall (a sun ultra 5 workstation), but the spare hard drive for mirroring was not available. No problem, it can be installed next week, we still have the old firewall to roll back to.
Several weeks pass.
I rock up to the firewall, hard drive in hand, and try and log in. Nope, i/o errors. It seems the drive has failed, just as I am about to install the mirror. Ohn the irony! The network continues to function quite happily, packets are routed, life is good.
Whistle cheerily, and restore from last night's back onto a spare identical machine. Wait until after working hours, pull plug on dead-drive fireall, turn on restored firewall.
First release? Ingres has been around for quite a while. We have used ingres as a commercial product for a decade. Not to say it doesn't have bugs though.
Process rights management. See Solaris 10. Basically you can give processes some root (or other) privs, without giving them full root privs. No more "this process runs as root so it can do , so if it gets compromised crackers have the permission to change root's password." Pretty cool.
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I don't know why they can't just use QOS on their own phone network. They could mark the first 2-5 GB of capacity as high priority, and then the rest low priority.
You have just reimplemented tiered data plans, as used in Australia and other parts of the world for DSL. Hit the quota, get shaped to 64/128/256 kbit (depending on ISP and plan). High-quota plans cost more, eg: http://www.internode.on.net/residential/broadband/adsl/extreme/pricing/
Option 3, with a limited speed (shaping) beyond the cap, is the most common in AU. One ISP allows the purchase of additional cap on demand to continue full speed but avoid surprise bills. (Disclaimer: I work for that ISP).
RTFA?
"While the Interceptor could be fitted with a water cannon or other non-lethal offensive system, its primary mission is to serve as a sentry. "
- ObDisclaimer: I deal with email at an ISP.
A megabit to the US costs $200 AUD plus, in bulk. Since no one is willing to pay thousands of dollars per month for a home connection, caps seem to be here to stay until this cost comes down. While Telstra have not helped, this is Southern Cross not Telstra.
The reason why some countries have cheap bandwidth to the home is the traffic is mostly local.
We have lived and worked this way for about 8 years. It's certainly improved our relationship skills, for example: fighting fair, knowing when you are in a bad mood and asking the other to leave you alone, and not taking (work) things personally. These are precisely the skills required of the astronauts for long term close confinement.
>>I am her boss.
>That would never fly in my house.
House? Who said anything about house? I'm the boss at work only.
I work with my wife in the same room, metres away. I am her boss. We are within metres of each other nearly 24 hours a day.
The secret? Knowing when the other person needs personal space and giving it to them. Same house, different headphones.
>> Other ISPs shape to 64 Kbps or 128 Kbps depending on plan.
:)
>128 Kbps is still slow, and shaping _seems_ to drop packets in a way that gives you severe end-to-end problems. Feels worse than an >overloaded 5.6Kbps dial up connection. My perception anyway.
Really, really shouldn't do. It's not done by dropping packets - at least in a decent ISP.
>ObDisclaimer: I use an Australian ISP which is not Telstra or Optus. Was working in Japan recently. When I saw their net deals and prices, I wept.
A lot of Japanese 'net access is to Japanese sites. Local bandwidth is cheap.
>BTW Highly recommended web site for people needing Australian Internet: whirlpool.net.au
I do too, which is a hint
> exceed your quota (which can be 200Mb, 500Gb, 1Gb, 3Gb, 10Gb, 30Gb depending on your ISP and plan
Try using a real ISP, which don't even offer plans of less than 8 GB.
> Telstra instead advertises cheap 200Mb quota accounts, and then charges customers $1.5 per Mb over that. If your kids discover bit torrent you're in for a big fat phonebill, and its your fault for not reading the fineprint.
More like 1.5c per MB. Still not pleasant.
Other ISPs shape to 64 Kbps or 128 Kbps depending on plan.
ObDisclaimer: I work for an Australian ISP which is not Telstra or Optus.
Not every part of the world has "unlimited" plans. In Australia plans are explicitly capped to a download limit, with shaping (read: 64kb) beyond that point (some plans charge, such as business plans). OTOH it is considered a fault if you do not receive full download speed at all times (when you aren't shaped). If you are a heavy user then you simply pay for a plan with more included download. I sync at 16 Mbps, and fully expect to receive that speed for the first 20 GB, with a predictable 64kbps after that.
Disclaimer: I work for an Australian ISP
Then you should have been at the conference
Exactly. You want to get anywhere, you have to drive along the edge, because only idiots take the 'short cut' of driving across the middle.
> Sadly, most people in the US are no good at geography, just as tragic, most other citizens of the world can't comprehend why we
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> all seem to have cars and love to drive; it's because our country is freakin' huge. Not that it makes our wasteful US driving
> habits any more acceptable, but hey - you gotta get there somehow.
Ahhh. Americans and your tiny states.
Area
Area of Texas: 700,000 km2 (268,000 square miles)
Area of Western Australia: 2,600,000 km2
Population density
Texas: 30.75/km2
Western Australia: 0.79/km2
5 out of 8 Australian states and territories are bigger than Texas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_s
> Honestly, if it wasn't for proliferation issues I would be all over this technology like a dog ready to
> hump. By why not nuclear FUSION?
Indeed, later this century all our static power requirements will be from fusion power. Current estimates have fusion available in 50 years.
(tongue firmly in cheek).
You are aware that price is typical for a game in Australia? That the price you quoted is in Australian dollars not US dollars?
Warning police in _Western Australia_ enforce laws. Strangely enough, WA in an article about Australia probably doesn't refer to the USA.
Mod this down. Tech news is a shock site (ala tubgirl etc).
I installed a new firewall (a sun ultra 5 workstation), but the spare hard drive for mirroring was not available. No problem, it can be installed next week, we still have the old firewall to roll back to.
Several weeks pass.
I rock up to the firewall, hard drive in hand, and try and log in. Nope, i/o errors. It seems the drive has failed, just as I am about to install the mirror. Ohn the irony! The network continues to function quite happily, packets are routed, life is good.
Whistle cheerily, and restore from last night's back onto a spare identical machine. Wait until after working hours, pull plug on dead-drive fireall, turn on restored firewall.
First release? Ingres has been around for quite a while. We have used ingres as a commercial product for a decade. Not to say it doesn't have bugs though.
Process rights management. See Solaris 10. Basically you can give processes some root (or other) privs, without giving them full root privs. No more "this process runs as root so it can do , so if it gets compromised crackers have the permission to change root's password." Pretty cool.
>and on the back of the Internet, the reliable >information
please mod parent funny +5