Are we forgetting the tons of slashdot posts when Linux was made to run on the xbox? Or when Linspire was ready to pay someone a hefty prize for getting Linux to boot on an xbox without a modchip? I think this is news for nerds. If you don't like it, don't waste your time reading it.
In fact the only difference between Google's map service and Terraserver is that Google now allows you to overlay streets onto the satellite image and provides directions on the satellite images. Terraserver allowed you to map out a location and then switch between the map view and satellite view before they stopped working on terraserver.
When my coworker started going apeshit over new google satellite images, i was like meh terraserver has been around forever and a half.
Re:FreeBSD Hard to Install No More! (Re:News?)
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And it did make the move to OS X easier coming from FreeBSD. However I am not sure I will ever get use to the changes in the startup files that Apple has introduced. Maybe some day.
Well, OS X is hardly FreeBSD. It is a redesigned mach kernel with a lot of FreeBSD influences because the senior FreeBSD developers were wooed by apple:)
Re:What about updates?
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I have only read about half of this "benchmark" so far and i'm really starting to wonder if we're supposed to take it seriously. Using the cpu cycle counter to determine which OS is faster and not adjusting his calculations to match each OS. Or that Linux is the only OS that allows you to tune where your priviledged port range starts (sysctl, hello?). Next, who cares if your system can can open 100000 processes? On current hardware if you hit that, you're going to have bigger problems....
To avoid the upcoming bashing posts, I am in no way a FreeBSD zealot. While FreeBSD used to be my favorite system, I have come to appreciate other operating systems as they serve a purpose. I.e. Solaris for enterprise systems, Windows for easy systems mangement, etc. If someone makes a claim out of their ass why another OS is better than another, I will say something. Check my historic posts in favor of Solaris (and subsequently being called a Solaris zealot)...
You need to track security updates for kernel, base and ports and apply them in different manners
Security updates come in source only form, this is a good thing or a bad thing depending on how you look at it. You apply the patches in order, i.e. if a Sendmail vulnerability comes out first and then an openssl vulnerability next, you have to do sendmail first. This is to ensure a consistant system that won't break when you load the new kernel/userland. If you track -STABLE you won't have to worry about applying them in any different manner. Just make world and walk away.
Package management is a decade behind what rpm and dpkg have to offer
pkg_add -r. Also see the manpages for pkg_* which set the trend and since 1994 has been doing what rpm and dpkg currently do. If anything FreeBSD is ahead in package management. I think you may be complaining at the fact that most open source software today completely ignores any other OS other than linux. Just going around to different sites, I see rpm or debian's package format. Nothing for *BSD,Solaris,etc.
It's essentially a DIY kit to build an OS. I just want an OS.
And what is an OS? Its fully functional out of the box. If I'm installing FreeBSD on a server I don't need X. If i'm installing FreeBSD on my desktop, I don't need apache. Pick and choose. If you hate installing packages everytime you reinstall, use FreeBSD from scratch.
Building ports takes ages, time I don't have Building ports takes resources. Resources I want to use for the server's core buisiness. Which is not compiling ports Who said to build from ports (granted there are some packages which require you to build from source SSH, java, et. al), again pkg_add -r is your friend. If you require the latest then put freebsd on a second machine and build there.
Bad documentation. The official freebsd manual often explains the most time consuming, error prone way of doing things. Later you'll find out there are many convienient ports to perform common tasks.
No journalled filesystems. Yeah, it's really scary to remotely kill the power of a crashed machine.
First of all, even back in the early days of UFS/FFS, a power outage wouldn't trash the filesystem. You must be thinking of ext2. Now softupdates is part of the default kernel which gives journaling-like attributes to the UFS filesystem. IIRC, full journaling should be implemented somewhere in the 6.x release.
I would also be interested to hear why you think userland is amateurish. Especially since most of everything in there has been around since 1.0 or 386BSD
Seriously, at least click on the god damn link for aimfight. You will see a giant Copyright (C) 2005 America Online. Oh wait, lets click on What is AimFight? And you get this:
Who made AIM Fight? Two AIM programmers with a little bit too much free time on their hands. They're both mild-mannered, soft-spoken, and nonviolent people. Go figure.
you're missing the point. if it takes 1000 watts of energy to power a compressor and 1000 watts of energy to power the heatpump/chips, you still use the extra fuel to turn your alternator instead of your a/c compressor. no savings in fuel economy. that was my original question
what kind of power savings can we expect with this design over a refrigerant based design. I only see an improvement of not using ozone depeleting materials.. I am skeptical to believe that one of these devices won't expect the same kind of power a compressor needed.
of course i've never really investigated peltier chips either
In the last 5-10 years you have probably seen big trucks with your cable company's name on the side driving around your town or parked in front of certain telephone poles. More than likely they were replacing their copper lines with fiber. RCN did this to the town I grew up in back in '97 and finished in '99. I move and the town where I live now have similiar boxes that RCN introduced to my old area. That leads me to safely assume most metropolitan areas have already made the switch from copper to fiber (if your cable co offers high speed cable, digital cable and telephone service, its safe to assume you're in the land of fiber)
Before we had fiber in our area, we only had 1-way cable modems (cable down, analog up) and we could pull up to 8mbit at 3 in the morning. As more people got cable modems, youd notice diminishing speeds to as low as 200kbps or lose your signal entirely during primetime. This was probably due to the fact that 10 neighborhoods shared a single cable network. As the new boxes were placed on our street, I noticed the original speed returning (and then they capped us:)
disclaimer: i understand how cable networks run from the modem to the CMTS, however i do not have any "real world experience" with cable networks. please correct me where i'm wrong
You're kidding, right? They mail you a ticket with photos clearly showing that you ran the red light. I'll take that over a cop's subjective judgement any day of the week.
And then I borrow your car and run a red light. Guess who's getting the ticket! And remember whatever you say, I can use as my defense if I ran a redlight in my car.
how do you figure? the reason why windows is targeted so much is because its a popular platform. what's to say if linux takes over worms and trojans won't appear in full force for that os? sorry, with or without bill gates we'd still have black hats and firewalls would still be a crucial part of our life.
What major OEMs? It was very open when OS/2 Warp and Win95 were getting ready to come out. If Warp had better network support and a better ad campaign, it would have blew Windows away for a short period of time. The main problem was IBM focused soley on business desktops and (once again) ignored the home market.
Didn't the same thing happen with the Pentium Pro and it eventually became the P2 and P3. I wouldn't be surprised if Intel is becoming quiet about the Itanium to weasel it into the mainstream.
Are you serious? Do you think everyone writes perfect nonexploitable code? By your argument we should blame Intel because they never pushed NX until recently even though its been around on other platforms for YEARS. Get over it, the people to blame here are the sysadmins that did not apply the patch or take precaution of their unpatched computers.
simple, just release your virus with an EULA. if you use it, the creator assumes no responsibility. if the creator goes to jail, it means EULA's fail and thus hell will freeze over, the earth will start spinning backwards, and mass anarchy will take over the world.
I love this sort of attitude - "I need to do X on a regular basis because I have no clue about security and automation." Seriously, sysadmin work is only as hard as you let it be. If you hate doing something because its time consuming, its really not hard to automate it.
first of all, it takes me 10 minutes to start rebuilding a lab of 150 computers, and from there it takes each machine roughly 60-90 minutes to be fully functional again (although there is about another 10 minutes of work involved with disabling network booting afterwards). second, if you have to rebuild EVERY workstation EVERY day, it means your security is way to lax and your policies are not well defined.
IF you must have weak security and bad policies, then you need to move all personal data from the local workstation to a centralized server and utilize wake on lan/automatic reboots every night to rebuild each workstation (ris is not an option here, so get creative).
Re:This has been open for a while...
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The Presidio facility has been open for a bit.
Seriously, this was in last months issue of Playboy. I'm sure 80% of slashdot already knows about this
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Are we forgetting the tons of slashdot posts when Linux was made to run on the xbox? Or when Linspire was ready to pay someone a hefty prize for getting Linux to boot on an xbox without a modchip? I think this is news for nerds. If you don't like it, don't waste your time reading it.
In fact the only difference between Google's map service and Terraserver is that Google now allows you to overlay streets onto the satellite image and provides directions on the satellite images. Terraserver allowed you to map out a location and then switch between the map view and satellite view before they stopped working on terraserver.
When my coworker started going apeshit over new google satellite images, i was like meh terraserver has been around forever and a half.
FreeBSD from scratch.
And it did make the move to OS X easier coming from FreeBSD. However I am not sure I will ever get use to the changes in the startup files that Apple has introduced. Maybe some day.
:)
Well, OS X is hardly FreeBSD. It is a redesigned mach kernel with a lot of FreeBSD influences because the senior FreeBSD developers were wooed by apple
that would be portupgrade, my friend..
I have only read about half of this "benchmark" so far and i'm really starting to wonder if we're supposed to take it seriously. Using the cpu cycle counter to determine which OS is faster and not adjusting his calculations to match each OS. Or that Linux is the only OS that allows you to tune where your priviledged port range starts (sysctl, hello?). Next, who cares if your system can can open 100000 processes? On current hardware if you hit that, you're going to have bigger problems....
To avoid the upcoming bashing posts, I am in no way a FreeBSD zealot. While FreeBSD used to be my favorite system, I have come to appreciate other operating systems as they serve a purpose. I.e. Solaris for enterprise systems, Windows for easy systems mangement, etc. If someone makes a claim out of their ass why another OS is better than another, I will say something. Check my historic posts in favor of Solaris (and subsequently being called a Solaris zealot)...
You need to track security updates for kernel, base and ports and apply them in different manners
Security updates come in source only form, this is a good thing or a bad thing depending on how you look at it. You apply the patches in order, i.e. if a Sendmail vulnerability comes out first and then an openssl vulnerability next, you have to do sendmail first. This is to ensure a consistant system that won't break when you load the new kernel/userland. If you track -STABLE you won't have to worry about applying them in any different manner. Just make world and walk away.
Package management is a decade behind what rpm and dpkg have to offer
pkg_add -r. Also see the manpages for pkg_* which set the trend and since 1994 has been doing what rpm and dpkg currently do. If anything FreeBSD is ahead in package management. I think you may be complaining at the fact that most open source software today completely ignores any other OS other than linux. Just going around to different sites, I see rpm or debian's package format. Nothing for *BSD,Solaris,etc.
It's essentially a DIY kit to build an OS. I just want an OS.
And what is an OS? Its fully functional out of the box. If I'm installing FreeBSD on a server I don't need X. If i'm installing FreeBSD on my desktop, I don't need apache. Pick and choose. If you hate installing packages everytime you reinstall, use FreeBSD from scratch.
Building ports takes ages, time I don't have
Building ports takes resources. Resources I want to use for the server's core buisiness. Which is not compiling ports
Who said to build from ports (granted there are some packages which require you to build from source SSH, java, et. al), again pkg_add -r is your friend. If you require the latest then put freebsd on a second machine and build there.
Bad documentation. The official freebsd manual often explains the most time consuming, error prone way of doing things. Later you'll find out there are many convienient ports to perform common tasks.
Excuse me?
No journalled filesystems. Yeah, it's really scary to remotely kill the power of a crashed machine.
First of all, even back in the early days of UFS/FFS, a power outage wouldn't trash the filesystem. You must be thinking of ext2. Now softupdates is part of the default kernel which gives journaling-like attributes to the UFS filesystem. IIRC, full journaling should be implemented somewhere in the 6.x release.
I would also be interested to hear why you think userland is amateurish. Especially since most of everything in there has been around since 1.0 or 386BSD
Seriously, at least click on the god damn link for aimfight. You will see a giant Copyright (C) 2005 America Online. Oh wait, lets click on What is AimFight? And you get this:
:(
Who made AIM Fight?
Two AIM programmers with a little bit too much free time on their hands. They're both mild-mannered, soft-spoken, and nonviolent people. Go figure.
Please mod parents down
you're missing the point. if it takes 1000 watts of energy to power a compressor and 1000 watts of energy to power the heatpump/chips, you still use the extra fuel to turn your alternator instead of your a/c compressor. no savings in fuel economy. that was my original question
what kind of power savings can we expect with this design over a refrigerant based design. I only see an improvement of not using ozone depeleting materials.. I am skeptical to believe that one of these devices won't expect the same kind of power a compressor needed.
of course i've never really investigated peltier chips either
In the last 5-10 years you have probably seen big trucks with your cable company's name on the side driving around your town or parked in front of certain telephone poles. More than likely they were replacing their copper lines with fiber. RCN did this to the town I grew up in back in '97 and finished in '99. I move and the town where I live now have similiar boxes that RCN introduced to my old area. That leads me to safely assume most metropolitan areas have already made the switch from copper to fiber (if your cable co offers high speed cable, digital cable and telephone service, its safe to assume you're in the land of fiber)
:)
Before we had fiber in our area, we only had 1-way cable modems (cable down, analog up) and we could pull up to 8mbit at 3 in the morning. As more people got cable modems, youd notice diminishing speeds to as low as 200kbps or lose your signal entirely during primetime. This was probably due to the fact that 10 neighborhoods shared a single cable network. As the new boxes were placed on our street, I noticed the original speed returning (and then they capped us
disclaimer: i understand how cable networks run from the modem to the CMTS, however i do not have any "real world experience" with cable networks. please correct me where i'm wrong
You're kidding, right? They mail you a ticket with photos clearly showing that you ran the red light. I'll take that over a cop's subjective judgement any day of the week. And then I borrow your car and run a red light. Guess who's getting the ticket! And remember whatever you say, I can use as my defense if I ran a redlight in my car.
Someone is not familiar with how X Windows works.
FreeBSD and ports.
how do you figure? the reason why windows is targeted so much is because its a popular platform. what's to say if linux takes over worms and trojans won't appear in full force for that os? sorry, with or without bill gates we'd still have black hats and firewalls would still be a crucial part of our life.
What major OEMs? It was very open when OS/2 Warp and Win95 were getting ready to come out. If Warp had better network support and a better ad campaign, it would have blew Windows away for a short period of time. The main problem was IBM focused soley on business desktops and (once again) ignored the home market.
Did this guy just put up his phone number on the internet??
apparently, but i got nothing more than a geeky sounding RMS voicemail.
Didn't the same thing happen with the Pentium Pro and it eventually became the P2 and P3. I wouldn't be surprised if Intel is becoming quiet about the Itanium to weasel it into the mainstream.
good point!
kevin mitnick is a brain bug? he socially engineered passwords/access out of a few people. how is that any different than this guy who wrote a worm?
And as far as I know from different sources, he is not rewarded with a job.
Have you ever heard of someone named Kevin Mitnick?
Are you serious? Do you think everyone writes perfect nonexploitable code? By your argument we should blame Intel because they never pushed NX until recently even though its been around on other platforms for YEARS. Get over it, the people to blame here are the sysadmins that did not apply the patch or take precaution of their unpatched computers.
simple, just release your virus with an EULA. if you use it, the creator assumes no responsibility. if the creator goes to jail, it means EULA's fail and thus hell will freeze over, the earth will start spinning backwards, and mass anarchy will take over the world.
I love this sort of attitude - "I need to do X on a regular basis because I have no clue about security and automation." Seriously, sysadmin work is only as hard as you let it be. If you hate doing something because its time consuming, its really not hard to automate it.
first of all, it takes me 10 minutes to start rebuilding a lab of 150 computers, and from there it takes each machine roughly 60-90 minutes to be fully functional again (although there is about another 10 minutes of work involved with disabling network booting afterwards). second, if you have to rebuild EVERY workstation EVERY day, it means your security is way to lax and your policies are not well defined.
IF you must have weak security and bad policies, then you need to move all personal data from the local workstation to a centralized server and utilize wake on lan/automatic reboots every night to rebuild each workstation (ris is not an option here, so get creative).
The Presidio facility has been open for a bit.
Seriously, this was in last months issue of Playboy. I'm sure 80% of slashdot already knows about this