No action may be brought under this title alleging infringement of copyright based on the manufacture, importation, or distribution of a digital audio recording device, a digital audio recording medium, an analog recording device, or an analog recording medium, or based on the noncommercial use by a consumer of such a device or medium for making digital musical recordings or analog musical recordings.
The key phrase is "noncommercial use by a consumer of such a device for making digital musical recordings or analog musical recordings." This section is an exception to the grounds under which infringement may be alleged; it specifically excepts a consumer making a recording, and not a consumer recording and then distributing that recording or copies of that recording.
The ability of a consumer to record music from the radio for personal use is part of that oft-repeated term, 'fair use.' Copying and redistributing music from the radio (or from any other source without permission of the copyright owner) constitutes infringement.
IANAL (or why would I be posting here?), but the statute is clear.
No action may be brought under this title alleging infringement of copyright based on the manufacture, importation, or distribution of a digital audio recording device, a digital audio recording medium, an analog recording device, or an analog recording medium, or based on the noncommercial use by a consumer of such a device or medium for making digital musical recordings or analog musical recordings.
The key phrase is "noncommercial use by a consumer of such a device for making digital musical recordings or analog musical recordings." This section is an exception to the grounds under which infringement may be alleged; it specifically excepts a consumer making a recording, and not a consumer recording and then distributing that recording or copies of that recording.
The ability of a consumer to record music from the radio for personal use is part of that oft-repeated term, 'fair use.' Copying and redistributing music from the radio (or from any other source without permission of the copyright owner) constitutes infringement.
IANAL (or why would I be posting here?), but the statute is clear.
"Going to steal a few songs for your own personal use," multiplied by many millions, waves big fat red flags in the faces of the content industries. And like a bull, they will charge ahead in an attempt to obliterate the threat.
To come off my metaphoric horse, that means Hilary Rosen and Jack Valenti open their organizations' respective checkbooks and begin purchasing legislators. That leads to crap like the DMCA. And in private industry, it brings us slightly less egregious activity like impending DRM - think Palladium.
It doesn't matter whether you would have bought the music or not - it doesn't matter whether those few songs are lost income for the record label or not. It simply matters that the RIAA can claim that they were, and copyright law backs them up. Witness the quickly-settled civil suits against four college students burdening them with, I believe, an average of $12,000 in debt.
Pirates worked around iTunes streaming restrictions, and what happened? Apple was forced to cripple the software, under threat I'm sure from the RIAA.
Grasping at whatever's available, morality and respect for the law and perspective be damned, seriously undermines efforts to protect what freedoms we've got. Stealing music, instead of clamoring for a legal service that offers a good product at a reasonable price, is a child's response.
In short, the government will treat the public as children in need of protection and restriction if we act like children.
First off, taping songs from the radio and giving them to friends is illegal, and always was; but no one really cared about music sharing before perfect digital copies became easily available.
I'm not going to try to defend the recording industry's fiscal practices or their despicable assault on music fans' real rights - but frankly it's wide-eyed disregard for the just-as-real rights of music publishers that is fucking it up for the rest of us.
How much cause would Sen. Hollings have if content companies weren't scared shitless by millions of pirates like yourself? Would we have the speech-destroying DMCA without music/movie piracy? I submit, possibly not. There's no point in debating the details of who gets what under copyright law if you're willing to flout that law for personal gain.
But don't be surprised when the entertainment industries cajole the government into flouting some rights that you might think are important.
Massive leap of faith here, presuming you want to go to a hell of a lot of trouble...
But you can do this for real with Mac-on-Linux. If you're a masochist you can even run separate instances of MOL for OS X and OS 9 - but don't expect anything with the letters S,P,E or D.
Yellow Dog and Mandrake can do this, I know from experience. Don't know about other Linux distros.
As another reply said, relying solely on a computer isn't proper training, period. That's the case with NAUI and, I expect, the other major groups, but it's hard to say to what extent standards might be relaxed in certain places.
But more originally, I feel obligated to point out something that's close to "stupidity and absolutely reckless": diving while weighing so much you require 43 pounds of weight to get underwater.
An average male in decent shape should require no more than 15 pounds, maybe 20 or 25, to get down, even in a full drysuit. Women have naturally higher body fat, but they still shouldn't need anything close to 40 pounds. Most rec divers should need much less, with a wetsuit.
You're pushing the boundaries of one of the biggest risk factors for getting bent: overweight. You were aware fat absorbs nitrogen faster than any other tissue compartment, right? There really is a significant percentage increase of N2 absorption by overweight people - enough to make relying on the tables questionable.
Hate to be a dick, and yes, I've dived with folks who wore two belts cause they couldn't fit all their lead bars/steel shot on one. But ignoring a significant risk factor just doesn't make sense. It's like diving while drinking, or diving with asthma - or relying on a computer and not checking against the tables.
Ford's barely keeping its head above water right now. GM is only slightly profitable, and both companies are surviving solely on their gas-guzzler, high-margin truck models. AMC? Don't make me laugh, building 50,000 narrowly-targeted monster SUVs a year doesn't make you a player, it makes you a niche.
Ford and GM actually lose money on each Focus, Malibu, etc. consumers buy; everyday cars are a loss leader for Detroit. They churn out those crap cars so you'll hopefully get a raise later on and buy one of the (few) models they do make money on, like the Explorer et al.
BUT not Japanese automakers like Toyota and Honda. They make styled, well-appointed compacts and sedans that run forever - and they charge a premium, and they get it. The Accord has been America's best-selling car for several years now; it runs several grand more than its domestic competition, but ya know, sometimes technical merit really does win.
Sorta makes you wonder what we'd all be driving (metaphor alert) if microsoft didn't design the roads to accommodate only their models...
The point isn't to make theft impossible - it's to make it inconvenient. This is a lot closer to the ideal of free, on-demand music than buying shrinkwrap, so proportionally more people will simply adopt Apple's method and forgo the spotty, sketchy - and illegal - p2p downloading. I know I will.
It's likely that the writer of the article didn't use the word "ruling"; it's in a subhed, and those are far more often inserted by copy people, who sometimes don't read the stories and quite frequently don't understand them.
Trust me, I know, they do it to me too.
Though I do agree the writer talks about this amicus curiae brief in stronger terms than it merits. As the story notes, the DoJ is required to take a position when a challenge arises based on the constitution. SO they had to say something - what did anyone think Ashcroft's position would be?
I grew up a few miles from the Intracoastal Waterway, in south Louisiana. Whatever school that is, ours didn't have teachers with figures like hers.
Oh, wait, Coastal City Elementary? Sure, CCE! Those bastards were always twiddling their fingers at us when we were shooting up and checking our crawfish traps... I think they had a class every other Friday at the Radio Shack on, uh, Drunk Cajun Boulevard.
Since you go off-topic to make erroneous points, I'll go off-topic to shoot them down.
Quote: It isn't just simplifying your hardware/software base though- Apple had(well, ok, still does, to some extent) this theory, except that the quality of code and QA -before releases went out the door- was piss-poor; even today it's pretty bad; case and point would be 10.2.5, which is reputed to be causing a lot of kernel panics related to USB. They have the same problem with hardware- almost everything they ship is defective in at least a half dozen ways(some of them minor, some of them very much not so.)
Sorry, no.
Your point is well-taken; making the whole widget (as Apple always has, excepting the silly 'clone' years) or licensing the parts of the widget (as Novell did) makes QA easier. What sets Apple apart, and what you got wrong (told you we were OT here) is they did a much better job than Novell, or most any other tech vendor you can think of.
You're painfully mistaken about 10.2.5, which has eliminated a number of issues and not caused any that the major Mac boards have pointed out. Where did that come from, the trolls in the/. Apple ghetto?
And you clearly don't know what you're talking about if you think any x86 vendor can compete with Apple on fit-and-finish and customer service. Their hardware just works, and just lasts.
As any well-educated nerd knows, Acadians are descended from French-Canadian exiles who fled Nova Scotia (aka Acadia) for south Louisiana centuries ago.
Since then we've been speaking French and cooking gumbo. But I'm pretty sure "acacia" is a tree indigenous to the Middle East.
Get it straight you bastards! We Cajuns (itself a Creole bastardization of 'Acadian') ain't up in no streaming-media piracy, no! Mais non!
Sorry to picky pick, but English constructed and spelled correctly seems like a dead language sometimes.
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You morons.
Salon's been in business for several years. They've got office space to rent (in San Francisco, for God's sake), insurance to pay, bandwidth to pay for and employees - people like fact checkers, copy editors, paginators.
$80 million is not a lot of money for a media org, especially one that's been at the forefront of investigative journalism since its inception. There are unavoidable costs in responsible reporting, and bravo to Salon for trying to keep going.
That's all. You can go back to Fox News now - or Nickelodeon, whichever you prefer,
"They perform well, and do consume significantly less power than any other mobile chip (excluding the Transmeta CPU, as I have come to the conclusion that they never really existed outside of Japan. Have you seen one in North America?)."
Umm... Any other mobile chip? Actually, yeah, I used to have a G3 PowerBook, and now I could run out and grab an equivalent iBook or a badass TiBook and have a processor just as (if not more) powerful that eats about a tenth the wattage of anything Intel's ever put out.
Come on - realize x86 is not the limit of the set.
Agreed. Let's not forget - on Slashdot, of all places! - that broadcasters, even Clear Channel, have obligations to the public in return for their use of our public property: the EM spectrum. Holding them to that is far more important than saving individual radio-broadcaster jobs.
I used several different types of these toll-booth terminals, run by British Telecom, on a recent holiday, and discovered something not to my liking: at least the way BT does it, you'll have trouble with sites that consist of more than bare HTML. The thing was Windows- and IE-based, of course, and it did not do Javascript well at all (though it didn't seem to be a performance issue). Also the terminal refused to work with WebObjects sites... so without those two I couldn't check email at all. Waste of a pound or two.
Now Bell Canada certainly could use a better implementation. BT at least screwed this up.
At least in my office environment, where we've got new Pentium 4s running Windows 95 unpatched (it's an old-school custom-job database/workflow "solution" tying us down).
We get our share of "You've been accepted!" but more common by far is "Japanese lass' sexy pictures" and "A very powful tool" - you know the drill. Our IT people's idea of security is forbidding accessing personal email accounts on the Web.
I'd trade virus emails (which crash Outlook even when you're running VirusScan or similar) for spam any day.
Wow, that's startlingly sexist. But the thought is nice.
Seriously - the problem of women's equality in hard (as opposed to social) and theoretical sciences isn't an issue of some female conviction that "math hurts." The problem is expectational and educational inequality. Which leads to attitudes like that of the parent poster.
There's nothing wrong - or sad, certainly - about people using computers for the tasks they're best at. Office work, email, the Internet: these are what people have always bought computers for. Using them for that purpose, and not buying into marketing hype, just makes sense.
Of course the digital video/audio markets call for either more power or more-advanced connectivity, and these still are growth markets, so that's where vendora are shifting their concentration.
But there's no need to rip on the lusers for using their computers for workaday tasks. That's what they're there for.
Jesus Christ. That's sort of amusing because it's probably the product of a quick glance at whatever AIM-related stuff Slashdot runs. There's so little Motorola love round here, I can kind of see how an idiot might reach this conclusion.
For the record: Apple's G4s come from Motorola exclusively, though IBM did put out many of the iMac G3s back in the day. And Big Blue's upcoming Fishkill plant might pump out some nasty future G5s, along with the PowerPC 970.
But that's in the future. Please stop making stupid pronouncements.
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From the above Netcraft link:
24 thesource.ofallevil.com 79 136 8 Windows Server 2003 Microsoft-IIS/6.0
That's another of MS's servers. What is up with that domain?!?
The relevant sections runs as follows:
No action may be brought under this title alleging infringement of copyright based on the manufacture, importation, or distribution of a digital audio recording device, a digital audio recording medium, an analog recording device, or an analog recording medium, or based on the noncommercial use by a consumer of such a device or medium for making digital musical recordings or analog musical recordings.
The key phrase is "noncommercial use by a consumer of such a device for making digital musical recordings or analog musical recordings." This section is an exception to the grounds under which infringement may be alleged; it specifically excepts a consumer making a recording, and not a consumer recording and then distributing that recording or copies of that recording.
The ability of a consumer to record music from the radio for personal use is part of that oft-repeated term, 'fair use.' Copying and redistributing music from the radio (or from any other source without permission of the copyright owner) constitutes infringement.
IANAL (or why would I be posting here?), but the statute is clear.
Posted in the wrong place first.
The relevant sections runs as follows:
No action may be brought under this title alleging infringement of copyright based on the manufacture, importation, or distribution of a digital audio recording device, a digital audio recording medium, an analog recording device, or an analog recording medium, or based on the noncommercial use by a consumer of such a device or medium for making digital musical recordings or analog musical recordings.
The key phrase is "noncommercial use by a consumer of such a device for making digital musical recordings or analog musical recordings." This section is an exception to the grounds under which infringement may be alleged; it specifically excepts a consumer making a recording, and not a consumer recording and then distributing that recording or copies of that recording.
The ability of a consumer to record music from the radio for personal use is part of that oft-repeated term, 'fair use.' Copying and redistributing music from the radio (or from any other source without permission of the copyright owner) constitutes infringement.
IANAL (or why would I be posting here?), but the statute is clear.
Okay, I'll bite.
"Going to steal a few songs for your own personal use," multiplied by many millions, waves big fat red flags in the faces of the content industries. And like a bull, they will charge ahead in an attempt to obliterate the threat.
To come off my metaphoric horse, that means Hilary Rosen and Jack Valenti open their organizations' respective checkbooks and begin purchasing legislators. That leads to crap like the DMCA. And in private industry, it brings us slightly less egregious activity like impending DRM - think Palladium.
It doesn't matter whether you would have bought the music or not - it doesn't matter whether those few songs are lost income for the record label or not. It simply matters that the RIAA can claim that they were, and copyright law backs them up. Witness the quickly-settled civil suits against four college students burdening them with, I believe, an average of $12,000 in debt.
Pirates worked around iTunes streaming restrictions, and what happened? Apple was forced to cripple the software, under threat I'm sure from the RIAA.
Grasping at whatever's available, morality and respect for the law and perspective be damned, seriously undermines efforts to protect what freedoms we've got. Stealing music, instead of clamoring for a legal service that offers a good product at a reasonable price, is a child's response.
In short, the government will treat the public as children in need of protection and restriction if we act like children.
You're not being glib. You're being an asshole.
First off, taping songs from the radio and giving them to friends is illegal, and always was; but no one really cared about music sharing before perfect digital copies became easily available.
I'm not going to try to defend the recording industry's fiscal practices or their despicable assault on music fans' real rights - but frankly it's wide-eyed disregard for the just-as-real rights of music publishers that is fucking it up for the rest of us.
How much cause would Sen. Hollings have if content companies weren't scared shitless by millions of pirates like yourself? Would we have the speech-destroying DMCA without music/movie piracy? I submit, possibly not. There's no point in debating the details of who gets what under copyright law if you're willing to flout that law for personal gain.
But don't be surprised when the entertainment industries cajole the government into flouting some rights that you might think are important.
Massive leap of faith here, presuming you want to go to a hell of a lot of trouble...
But you can do this for real with Mac-on-Linux. If you're a masochist you can even run separate instances of MOL for OS X and OS 9 - but don't expect anything with the letters S,P,E or D.
Yellow Dog and Mandrake can do this, I know from experience. Don't know about other Linux distros.
Hmmm....
As another reply said, relying solely on a computer isn't proper training, period. That's the case with NAUI and, I expect, the other major groups, but it's hard to say to what extent standards might be relaxed in certain places.
But more originally, I feel obligated to point out something that's close to "stupidity and absolutely reckless": diving while weighing so much you require 43 pounds of weight to get underwater.
An average male in decent shape should require no more than 15 pounds, maybe 20 or 25, to get down, even in a full drysuit. Women have naturally higher body fat, but they still shouldn't need anything close to 40 pounds. Most rec divers should need much less, with a wetsuit.
You're pushing the boundaries of one of the biggest risk factors for getting bent: overweight. You were aware fat absorbs nitrogen faster than any other tissue compartment, right? There really is a significant percentage increase of N2 absorption by overweight people - enough to make relying on the tables questionable.
Hate to be a dick, and yes, I've dived with folks who wore two belts cause they couldn't fit all their lead bars/steel shot on one. But ignoring a significant risk factor just doesn't make sense. It's like diving while drinking, or diving with asthma - or relying on a computer and not checking against the tables.
Hmmm... No.
Ford's barely keeping its head above water right now. GM is only slightly profitable, and both companies are surviving solely on their gas-guzzler, high-margin truck models. AMC? Don't make me laugh, building 50,000 narrowly-targeted monster SUVs a year doesn't make you a player, it makes you a niche.
Ford and GM actually lose money on each Focus, Malibu, etc. consumers buy; everyday cars are a loss leader for Detroit. They churn out those crap cars so you'll hopefully get a raise later on and buy one of the (few) models they do make money on, like the Explorer et al.
BUT not Japanese automakers like Toyota and Honda. They make styled, well-appointed compacts and sedans that run forever - and they charge a premium, and they get it. The Accord has been America's best-selling car for several years now; it runs several grand more than its domestic competition, but ya know, sometimes technical merit really does win.
Sorta makes you wonder what we'd all be driving (metaphor alert) if microsoft didn't design the roads to accommodate only their models...
Laugh...
That's a problem only if you really, really want to debug Explorer.
The point isn't to make theft impossible - it's to make it inconvenient. This is a lot closer to the ideal of free, on-demand music than buying shrinkwrap, so proportionally more people will simply adopt Apple's method and forgo the spotty, sketchy - and illegal - p2p downloading. I know I will.
Fool.
Bite the bullet? Companies like MacAlly and Kensington have been making such mice (and keyboards) for years, like the one on my desk. Wake up.
It's likely that the writer of the article didn't use the word "ruling"; it's in a subhed, and those are far more often inserted by copy people, who sometimes don't read the stories and quite frequently don't understand them.
Trust me, I know, they do it to me too.
Though I do agree the writer talks about this amicus curiae brief in stronger terms than it merits. As the story notes, the DoJ is required to take a position when a challenge arises based on the constitution. SO they had to say something - what did anyone think Ashcroft's position would be?
I grew up a few miles from the Intracoastal Waterway, in south Louisiana. Whatever school that is, ours didn't have teachers with figures like hers.
Oh, wait, Coastal City Elementary? Sure, CCE! Those bastards were always twiddling their fingers at us when we were shooting up and checking our crawfish traps... I think they had a class every other Friday at the Radio Shack on, uh, Drunk Cajun Boulevard.
Sorry, no. Your point is well-taken; making the whole widget (as Apple always has, excepting the silly 'clone' years) or licensing the parts of the widget (as Novell did) makes QA easier. What sets Apple apart, and what you got wrong (told you we were OT here) is they did a much better job than Novell, or most any other tech vendor you can think of. You're painfully mistaken about 10.2.5, which has eliminated a number of issues and not caused any that the major Mac boards have pointed out. Where did that come from, the trolls in the /. Apple ghetto?
And you clearly don't know what you're talking about if you think any x86 vendor can compete with Apple on fit-and-finish and customer service. Their hardware just works, and just lasts.
"the stories you hear are completely false"...
So I guess you're buying millions of gallons of syrup a year at a massive, massive bulk discount?
No? Retail? Well, then...
As any well-educated nerd knows, Acadians are descended from French-Canadian exiles who fled Nova Scotia (aka Acadia) for south Louisiana centuries ago.
Since then we've been speaking French and cooking gumbo. But I'm pretty sure "acacia" is a tree indigenous to the Middle East.
Get it straight you bastards! We Cajuns (itself a Creole bastardization of 'Acadian') ain't up in no streaming-media piracy, no! Mais non!
Wait...
You mean Virgil's Aeneid?
And Catullus?
Sorry to picky pick, but English constructed and spelled correctly seems like a dead language sometimes.
You morons.
Salon's been in business for several years. They've got office space to rent (in San Francisco, for God's sake), insurance to pay, bandwidth to pay for and employees - people like fact checkers, copy editors, paginators.
$80 million is not a lot of money for a media org, especially one that's been at the forefront of investigative journalism since its inception. There are unavoidable costs in responsible reporting, and bravo to Salon for trying to keep going.
That's all. You can go back to Fox News now - or Nickelodeon, whichever you prefer,
"They perform well, and do consume significantly less power than any other mobile chip (excluding the Transmeta CPU, as I have come to the conclusion that they never really existed outside of Japan. Have you seen one in North America?)."
Umm... Any other mobile chip? Actually, yeah, I used to have a G3 PowerBook, and now I could run out and grab an equivalent iBook or a badass TiBook and have a processor just as (if not more) powerful that eats about a tenth the wattage of anything Intel's ever put out.
Come on - realize x86 is not the limit of the set.
Agreed. Let's not forget - on Slashdot, of all places! - that broadcasters, even Clear Channel, have obligations to the public in return for their use of our public property: the EM spectrum. Holding them to that is far more important than saving individual radio-broadcaster jobs.
I used several different types of these toll-booth terminals, run by British Telecom, on a recent holiday, and discovered something not to my liking: at least the way BT does it, you'll have trouble with sites that consist of more than bare HTML. The thing was Windows- and IE-based, of course, and it did not do Javascript well at all (though it didn't seem to be a performance issue). Also the terminal refused to work with WebObjects sites... so without those two I couldn't check email at all. Waste of a pound or two.
Now Bell Canada certainly could use a better implementation. BT at least screwed this up.
At least in my office environment, where we've got new Pentium 4s running Windows 95 unpatched (it's an old-school custom-job database/workflow "solution" tying us down).
We get our share of "You've been accepted!" but more common by far is "Japanese lass' sexy pictures" and "A very powful tool" - you know the drill. Our IT people's idea of security is forbidding accessing personal email accounts on the Web.
I'd trade virus emails (which crash Outlook even when you're running VirusScan or similar) for spam any day.
Wow, that's startlingly sexist. But the thought is nice.
Seriously - the problem of women's equality in hard (as opposed to social) and theoretical sciences isn't an issue of some female conviction that "math hurts." The problem is expectational and educational inequality. Which leads to attitudes like that of the parent poster.
College student or everyday user, so what?
There's nothing wrong - or sad, certainly - about people using computers for the tasks they're best at. Office work, email, the Internet: these are what people have always bought computers for. Using them for that purpose, and not buying into marketing hype, just makes sense.
Of course the digital video/audio markets call for either more power or more-advanced connectivity, and these still are growth markets, so that's where vendora are shifting their concentration.
But there's no need to rip on the lusers for using their computers for workaday tasks. That's what they're there for.
What? IBM Apple's only chip supplier?
Jesus Christ. That's sort of amusing because it's probably the product of a quick glance at whatever AIM-related stuff Slashdot runs. There's so little Motorola love round here, I can kind of see how an idiot might reach this conclusion.
For the record: Apple's G4s come from Motorola exclusively, though IBM did put out many of the iMac G3s back in the day. And Big Blue's upcoming Fishkill plant might pump out some nasty future G5s, along with the PowerPC 970.
But that's in the future. Please stop making stupid pronouncements.