Actually IBM acquiring sun isn't that bad of an idea. IBM really couldn't care less about sparc or sun's workstation/server market (although I'm sure they'd find a use for it). What they really really want is java (I know, I'm actually an IBM java developer) and I would think that a combination of Linux and Java would scare the crap out of Microsoft, especially with IBM controlling it. As for MS solutions being IBM's big thing, I can think of a $Billion$ reasons why that might change (think IBM investments in linux). Also IBM has an incredible amount of Windows machines that they'd like to break from the obscene licensing that Microsoft has. Just my 2 cents...
No no you got it all wrong. First IBM is going to buy Sun because we all know in our lifetimes its going to happen. Next IBM is going to move its new "Sun Division" away from sparc and to IBM's 64 bit powerPC. Now IBM will merge with Apple, move AQUA on a linux base instead of BSD or Solaris slap it on these 64 bit powerpcs with it's IBM Star Office and drive Microsoft straight back into the hole it crawled out of. Now its kind of scarry that it would take 3 companies to kill MS, but if someones gonna do it it might as well be IBM because they started this mess in the first place.
...there is a demo server running on a Commodore 64. Haha... not anymore but seriously (well not really) I would think that that commodore 64 was slashdotted by the article poster before it even got to slashdot.
First of all i'm not complaining about "editor" mistakes... i could care less. But this is a western digital drive not a maxtor one, things like that seem rather silly to let slip through the cracks. And just to be sure I checked maxtor to see if they had anything, but all i could really find (in about 15 seconds worth of time) was a page about > 137 gig drives.
Ok, I work at IBM. My father works at IBM. Good number of my friend's parents work at IBM. IBM is single handedly the most influencial and important business in this area (dutchess, ulster county roughly an hour from albany). When they layed off all those people in the early 90s, our economy went to shit. Many people I know were layed off, closing one plant (kingston) and cutting back in the poughkeepsie plant and east fishkill plants. A few thoughts on why albany. One would be that its the closest large city to here, for convention center and office buildings. NYC is further and more of a hassle. Poughkeepsie, which i believe has a population of 50-100 thousand, is a dump. Yeah there are some nice parts, and I would absolutely love for it to be here (more job opportunities) but its really not that kind of city. Albany also is pretty much the center of the state. If it was NYC, the rochester (Eastman/Kodac, RIT, etc) people would have quite a trip, same for the buffalo people (not to mention Massachusetts, Connecticut, etc). It seems to me that all and all Albany probably is the most logical place. Theres plenty of room, its a relativly decent city and its in a rather convenient location. I hope all of this really does go through because we could definitly use more of a tech industry than IBM.
XP is just NT 5.1 (2000), so of course theres not much of a difference. I would be greatly amazed if anything truly important to the OS was changed in that.1 upgrade, and with that I would highly doubt that a.1 upgrade on windows is not as signifiecent as a.1 (or.2) upgrade for the linux kernel or distro. Seems the only thing they changed was the gui.
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Thats what i was hinting at... obviously gcc isn't going to compile vb and as a matter of fact I'm loving 3.1.1 as I post this. My post was kind of humorous... in: "the compiler won't compile my code", "there for the problem must be the compiler". Oh well... i thought it was funny and I got marked as a troll. Haha I win.
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I don't know why everyone raves about these compilers... everytime i go to compile something they just spit out error after error. How does the open source community survive without being able to compile VB? oh... wait... gcc isn't for vb? nevermind...
I'm just gonna start ranting and hopefully a point will come out of this somehow;). Anyway, who cares? Seriously... I haven't had a virus since I was 15 or so and know better now. If this "marketing hype" is to just sell virus scanners but scares the public into being more secure then thats fine with me. Potentially means less code red in my logfiles and less klez complaints to deal with. Look, yeah hyping something up thats bad so you can sell a cure sucks and is rather unethical, but the vast majority of computer users have no clue on why they get virus's besides some vague knowledge that it has to do with the internet. So, again... whatever. Calm down. Take some deep breaths. Do some pushups. Go conspire about something that matters. Now some additional things because well goddamn it, this is my post and I'll say what I want and you'll listen. Please spare the +5 funny "what virus? i use linux" and "windows, by definiton it is a virus" post. Please Please Please. Please follow the directions I gave above before posting them. As for linux and virus... soon my pretty... you will have your virus. Yeah yeah, root blah... blah... doesn't mean your home directory can't get wiped and doesn't mean some sad bastards out there don't run linux in root. Anyway I'd like to close this with a little simpson's quote:
Actually can't remember it, but it had something to do with flu shots and flanders and not believing in them and it was funny. Just trust me it had some relevance to all this.
not necessarily i know a few french people and a few german people... and i may be alittle biased towards germany but for the most part the germans think the french hate them. All of them. My friend was an exchange student from germany and said when she was in france they called her and her friends nazis and shit like that.
Haha... this is like the axis and alliance. One hand we have denmark, austria and mexico. On the other side is germany, france (who thought they'd ever be on the same side), china and a bunch more. I'm surprised Microsoft just hasn't bought a country yet. No i don't mean lobbying and free software packages or whatever. I mean legitmatly going into a nation saying "hey we got $40 billion and we want to buy you" and doing it. I think that would be more impressive than 30% market share for iis. Then again as my supervisor at the helpdesk showed me the corporate structure of Microsoft... you have your ceo and board, followed by some software groups, etc. Then in the marketing department towards the basement... you find the US DOJ. Guess thats going to help dictate whos side we'll be on.
All repeating a line over and over again did was piss me off while i was downloading the eminem show. It made me not want it anymore, because hell... maybe thats how the cd was. So I definitly don't think it was done to make people want the album more. Thats what real songs and radio is for. Then again with dsl, just download 15 at a time and find the one tahts good. Suck that riaa.
Redhat is breaking even, and mandrake is still around. They both are doing better than Suse, Caldera (linux devision) and the others that are actually companies (so no debian, etc). By making money I don't mean profit, I mean make any money whatsoever.
Just to let you "oh you don't support the work of others by downloading isos you mooching bastard" people know, I pay for Mandrake to help support them when I can. Usually for every 2-3 iso versions I download, I'll buy the next one (generally the last in the series like 8.2).
Mr. Love, I'm curious as to how you'll make money from this? By not giving away binaries it seems as if your group is trying to sell linux, and probably service and support with it. Now you appear to be in competition with RedHat (on server) and Mandrake (on desktop) who both give their software away. RedHat makes it's money from service contracts and Mandrake from special software for paying customers. I guess my question is how can you compete against them, when they are just as good and give it away for free or cheaper? What is the incentive you will give consumers to actually purchase your software as opposed to downloading isos from other companies? -Shawn
OMB should also consider if dominant office productivity tools, including word processing, spreadsheets and presentation graphics, should be required to provide high quality ports to other operating systems, including platforms such as Linux or the BeOS. First of all I do not miss MS Office. I think it is a better solution (legally and financially) to make MS not port its code (If the govt can tell them to do that, then they may as well just control them all together) but instead to open up it's office formats. Open Office is fine. I use it all the time and in some ways its better than MS Office (especially it's handling of corupted files). Anyway, the linux port idea I can understand because we all know linux is the big buzzword now but Beos? Haha... thats hilarious. First of all the develeopment of the OS doesn't exist anymore (yes the OS technically exist but its not going to get any better). Maybe they can force Microsoft to write some drivers so that Beos is usable and then port MS Office to it.
Yeah this is offtopic, but I can't take this crap any longer... mod me down, I have karma to burn.
Once more you prove that collectively, Americans are as dumb as an Ox
You seem to suffer from the usual "i'm not an american and all I know is that the united states is full of drug-using, enviroment destroying, waste producing, underachieving, fat, lazy, arrogant idiots" syndrome. Dude, get over yourself. Yeah america is fucked in some ways (DMCA, Bush) but so is everywhere else. I have the usual anti-america angst just like the next guy, but when I sit down and think about I ponder well, whats better. And frankly not much... yeah other places have some things better. But all in all America is just as good as anywhere else.
A recently published study said that 40% of American scientist and engineers are naturalized citizens (foreigners).
This may be one of the stupidest points I've ever heard. All I can say is "yeah so". And do you question why they came here? Maybe the scientist from India, China, Europe or wherever find America to be a much easier place to innovate and create new products. Maybe they can make more money for their families. Either way, (I suspect its a matter of both) they're here. I work with a lot of different people (IBM) and we all get along and work together. As for 40% being foreigners, well probably about 99% of that other 60% are descendants of foreigners in the last 2-6 generations. Except for Native Americans who have been here for thousands of years, most of us have roots from everywhere. And you know what? It makes us stronger as a nation. So bash america as stupid. Bash america as lazy. Bash america as egotistical. We don't care. There are some damn brilliant people over here. People fighting good causes and actually trying to make the world a better place. Our population as a whole can be slow at times, but thats the same everywhere. Anyway, I'm not going to change your mind at all... but I'm so sick of hearing this anti-america shit that I figured it was time to speak up.
Of course this comes from the extremely early days when the HURD was at most a couple years old and was to be the next big thing. I don't think anyone would of thought linux would be where it is today, especially not Linus. However based on the release schedule of HURD and Linus's complete dislike of microkernels, I can understand why his opinion changed so much. Well that and being "your god" as he put it, doesn't hurt either;).
Lets remember that Linux itself is developed for that reason too, well according to Linus. I think the HURD is nice concept and as the broadband becomes more widespread and such, a distributed OS like this would be quite beneficial for corporations and universities. Then again theres always Amoeba and Plan 9.
I'm sure limewire (gnutella) is loving this...
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Napster, scour, kazaa... all it goes to show is that commerical p2p has its flaws. The problem from what I can see is that they try to retain some control of the network, at which point RIAA says "Hey, you can stop this at anytime, do it!" and they have to. However, I'd love to see them go after gnutella. With dozens of free (beer and/or speech) clients and a pretty much completely decentralitized network there really is nothing they can do about it. Unfortunately there isn't too much on gnutella (content wise, as compared to fastrack) but when they're the last game in town I'm sure it'll get better. I'm sure limewire (the commercial gnutella company and yes they give it away, but they still sell stuff) loves this. They easily have the best gnutella client (morpheous has some stuff to work out) which is multi-platform and would probably love to have kazaa's share of the population.
Recording Industry Association of America president Hilary Rosen calls the proposal "the most disingenuous thing I've ever heard. It's ridiculous." Oh theres a shocker... someone comes up with a decent idea that doesn't involve the RIAA making more money and Rosen calls them disingenuous. Ha, what the hell is the RIAA then? Like they really serve a point by paying the artist pretty much nothing and profiting on other people's work. Yeah whos the insincere bastard here. Ironically this idea, no matter how crazy it is... might just work. I'd be willing to give an extra dollar a month for internet if it meant i could download music without worrying about the RIAA or kazaa using spyware (which I'd hope would dissapear if they actually had real money exchanging hands, that and i'm sure Verizon can spare some change).
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Actually IBM acquiring sun isn't that bad of an idea. IBM really couldn't care less about sparc or sun's workstation/server market (although I'm sure they'd find a use for it). What they really really want is java (I know, I'm actually an IBM java developer) and I would think that a combination of Linux and Java would scare the crap out of Microsoft, especially with IBM controlling it. As for MS solutions being IBM's big thing, I can think of a $Billion$ reasons why that might change (think IBM investments in linux). Also IBM has an incredible amount of Windows machines that they'd like to break from the obscene licensing that Microsoft has. Just my 2 cents...
No no you got it all wrong. First IBM is going to buy Sun because we all know in our lifetimes its going to happen. Next IBM is going to move its new "Sun Division" away from sparc and to IBM's 64 bit powerPC. Now IBM will merge with Apple, move AQUA on a linux base instead of BSD or Solaris slap it on these 64 bit powerpcs with it's IBM Star Office and drive Microsoft straight back into the hole it crawled out of. Now its kind of scarry that it would take 3 companies to kill MS, but if someones gonna do it it might as well be IBM because they started this mess in the first place.
...there is a demo server running on a Commodore 64. Haha... not anymore but seriously (well not really) I would think that that commodore 64 was slashdotted by the article poster before it even got to slashdot.
First of all i'm not complaining about "editor" mistakes... i could care less. But this is a western digital drive not a maxtor one, things like that seem rather silly to let slip through the cracks. And just to be sure I checked maxtor to see if they had anything, but all i could really find (in about 15 seconds worth of time) was a page about > 137 gig drives.
Ok, I work at IBM. My father works at IBM. Good number of my friend's parents work at IBM. IBM is single handedly the most influencial and important business in this area (dutchess, ulster county roughly an hour from albany). When they layed off all those people in the early 90s, our economy went to shit. Many people I know were layed off, closing one plant (kingston) and cutting back in the poughkeepsie plant and east fishkill plants. A few thoughts on why albany. One would be that its the closest large city to here, for convention center and office buildings. NYC is further and more of a hassle. Poughkeepsie, which i believe has a population of 50-100 thousand, is a dump. Yeah there are some nice parts, and I would absolutely love for it to be here (more job opportunities) but its really not that kind of city. Albany also is pretty much the center of the state. If it was NYC, the rochester (Eastman/Kodac, RIT, etc) people would have quite a trip, same for the buffalo people (not to mention Massachusetts, Connecticut, etc). It seems to me that all and all Albany probably is the most logical place. Theres plenty of room, its a relativly decent city and its in a rather convenient location. I hope all of this really does go through because we could definitly use more of a tech industry than IBM.
XP is just NT 5.1 (2000), so of course theres not much of a difference. I would be greatly amazed if anything truly important to the OS was changed in that .1 upgrade, and with that I would highly doubt that a .1 upgrade on windows is not as signifiecent as a .1 (or .2) upgrade for the linux kernel or distro. Seems the only thing they changed was the gui.
Thats what i was hinting at... obviously gcc isn't going to compile vb and as a matter of fact I'm loving 3.1.1 as I post this. My post was kind of humorous... in: "the compiler won't compile my code", "there for the problem must be the compiler". Oh well... i thought it was funny and I got marked as a troll. Haha I win.
I don't know why everyone raves about these compilers... everytime i go to compile something they just spit out error after error. How does the open source community survive without being able to compile VB? oh... wait... gcc isn't for vb? nevermind...
Try 6 years.
Its incoherent because I don't care, Mr. Anonymous Coward.
I'm just gonna start ranting and hopefully a point will come out of this somehow ;). Anyway, who cares? Seriously... I haven't had a virus since I was 15 or so and know better now. If this "marketing hype" is to just sell virus scanners but scares the public into being more secure then thats fine with me. Potentially means less code red in my logfiles and less klez complaints to deal with. Look, yeah hyping something up thats bad so you can sell a cure sucks and is rather unethical, but the vast majority of computer users have no clue on why they get virus's besides some vague knowledge that it has to do with the internet. So, again... whatever. Calm down. Take some deep breaths. Do some pushups. Go conspire about something that matters. Now some additional things because well goddamn it, this is my post and I'll say what I want and you'll listen. Please spare the +5 funny "what virus? i use linux" and "windows, by definiton it is a virus" post. Please Please Please. Please follow the directions I gave above before posting them. As for linux and virus... soon my pretty... you will have your virus. Yeah yeah, root blah... blah... doesn't mean your home directory can't get wiped and doesn't mean some sad bastards out there don't run linux in root. Anyway I'd like to close this with a little simpson's quote:
Actually can't remember it, but it had something to do with flu shots and flanders and not believing in them and it was funny. Just trust me it had some relevance to all this.
not necessarily i know a few french people and a few german people... and i may be alittle biased towards germany but for the most part the germans think the french hate them. All of them. My friend was an exchange student from germany and said when she was in france they called her and her friends nazis and shit like that.
Haha... this is like the axis and alliance. One hand we have denmark, austria and mexico. On the other side is germany, france (who thought they'd ever be on the same side), china and a bunch more. I'm surprised Microsoft just hasn't bought a country yet. No i don't mean lobbying and free software packages or whatever. I mean legitmatly going into a nation saying "hey we got $40 billion and we want to buy you" and doing it. I think that would be more impressive than 30% market share for iis. Then again as my supervisor at the helpdesk showed me the corporate structure of Microsoft... you have your ceo and board, followed by some software groups, etc. Then in the marketing department towards the basement... you find the US DOJ. Guess thats going to help dictate whos side we'll be on.
All repeating a line over and over again did was piss me off while i was downloading the eminem show. It made me not want it anymore, because hell... maybe thats how the cd was. So I definitly don't think it was done to make people want the album more. Thats what real songs and radio is for. Then again with dsl, just download 15 at a time and find the one tahts good. Suck that riaa.
Redhat is breaking even, and mandrake is still around. They both are doing better than Suse, Caldera (linux devision) and the others that are actually companies (so no debian, etc). By making money I don't mean profit, I mean make any money whatsoever.
Just to let you "oh you don't support the work of others by downloading isos you mooching bastard" people know, I pay for Mandrake to help support them when I can. Usually for every 2-3 iso versions I download, I'll buy the next one (generally the last in the series like 8.2).
Mr. Love, I'm curious as to how you'll make money from this? By not giving away binaries it seems as if your group is trying to sell linux, and probably service and support with it. Now you appear to be in competition with RedHat (on server) and Mandrake (on desktop) who both give their software away. RedHat makes it's money from service contracts and Mandrake from special software for paying customers. I guess my question is how can you compete against them, when they are just as good and give it away for free or cheaper? What is the incentive you will give consumers to actually purchase your software as opposed to downloading isos from other companies?
-Shawn
OMB should also consider if dominant office productivity tools, including word processing, spreadsheets and presentation graphics, should be required to provide high quality ports to other operating systems, including platforms such as Linux or the BeOS.
First of all I do not miss MS Office. I think it is a better solution (legally and financially) to make MS not port its code (If the govt can tell them to do that, then they may as well just control them all together) but instead to open up it's office formats. Open Office is fine. I use it all the time and in some ways its better than MS Office (especially it's handling of corupted files). Anyway, the linux port idea I can understand because we all know linux is the big buzzword now but Beos? Haha... thats hilarious. First of all the develeopment of the OS doesn't exist anymore (yes the OS technically exist but its not going to get any better). Maybe they can force Microsoft to write some drivers so that Beos is usable and then port MS Office to it.
Yeah this is offtopic, but I can't take this crap any longer... mod me down, I have karma to burn.
Once more you prove that collectively, Americans are as dumb as an Ox
You seem to suffer from the usual "i'm not an american and all I know is that the united states is full of drug-using, enviroment destroying, waste producing, underachieving, fat, lazy, arrogant idiots" syndrome. Dude, get over yourself. Yeah america is fucked in some ways (DMCA, Bush) but so is everywhere else. I have the usual anti-america angst just like the next guy, but when I sit down and think about I ponder well, whats better. And frankly not much... yeah other places have some things better. But all in all America is just as good as anywhere else.
A recently published study said that 40% of American scientist and engineers are naturalized citizens (foreigners).
This may be one of the stupidest points I've ever heard. All I can say is "yeah so". And do you question why they came here? Maybe the scientist from India, China, Europe or wherever find America to be a much easier place to innovate and create new products. Maybe they can make more money for their families. Either way, (I suspect its a matter of both) they're here. I work with a lot of different people (IBM) and we all get along and work together. As for 40% being foreigners, well probably about 99% of that other 60% are descendants of foreigners in the last 2-6 generations. Except for Native Americans who have been here for thousands of years, most of us have roots from everywhere. And you know what? It makes us stronger as a nation. So bash america as stupid. Bash america as lazy. Bash america as egotistical. We don't care. There are some damn brilliant people over here. People fighting good causes and actually trying to make the world a better place. Our population as a whole can be slow at times, but thats the same everywhere. Anyway, I'm not going to change your mind at all... but I'm so sick of hearing this anti-america shit that I figured it was time to speak up.
-powerlinekid
Of course this comes from the extremely early days when the HURD was at most a couple years old and was to be the next big thing. I don't think anyone would of thought linux would be where it is today, especially not Linus. However based on the release schedule of HURD and Linus's complete dislike of microkernels, I can understand why his opinion changed so much. Well that and being "your god" as he put it, doesn't hurt either ;).
This always makes me laugh... oh that Linus. Anyway, no karma whoring have 50 anyway.
Which is a completely idiotic idea, and which is only just another example
of how absolutely and stunningly _stupid_ Hurd is.
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Trust me. The people who came up with MAP_COPY were stupid. Really. It's
an idiotic concept, and it's not worth implementing.
And this all for what is a administration bug in the first place.
In short: just say NO TO DRUGS, and maybe you won't end up like the Hurd
people.
All by Linus found here lkml
Lets remember that Linux itself is developed for that reason too, well according to Linus. I think the HURD is nice concept and as the broadband becomes more widespread and such, a distributed OS like this would be quite beneficial for corporations and universities. Then again theres always Amoeba and Plan 9.
Napster, scour, kazaa... all it goes to show is that commerical p2p has its flaws. The problem from what I can see is that they try to retain some control of the network, at which point RIAA says "Hey, you can stop this at anytime, do it!" and they have to. However, I'd love to see them go after gnutella. With dozens of free (beer and/or speech) clients and a pretty much completely decentralitized network there really is nothing they can do about it. Unfortunately there isn't too much on gnutella (content wise, as compared to fastrack) but when they're the last game in town I'm sure it'll get better. I'm sure limewire (the commercial gnutella company and yes they give it away, but they still sell stuff) loves this. They easily have the best gnutella client (morpheous has some stuff to work out) which is multi-platform and would probably love to have kazaa's share of the population.
SonicBlue is made of people!!! You maniacs!!! oh wait...
Recording Industry Association of America president Hilary Rosen calls the proposal "the most disingenuous thing I've ever heard. It's ridiculous." Oh theres a shocker... someone comes up with a decent idea that doesn't involve the RIAA making more money and Rosen calls them disingenuous. Ha, what the hell is the RIAA then? Like they really serve a point by paying the artist pretty much nothing and profiting on other people's work. Yeah whos the insincere bastard here. Ironically this idea, no matter how crazy it is... might just work. I'd be willing to give an extra dollar a month for internet if it meant i could download music without worrying about the RIAA or kazaa using spyware (which I'd hope would dissapear if they actually had real money exchanging hands, that and i'm sure Verizon can spare some change).