> So who's really at fault here? The students? The hospital for > not securing their computers and network? Or the adware companies for providing the incentive?
Just because it turns out Darth Vader is a whiney teenager doesn't mean he shouldn't be painfully and publically executed, nor the creative adult mastermind who used his creative powers to envision the whole fiasco.
Stupid Japanese dumping billions into developing robotics skills instead of where the real money is, suing the hell out of the Salvation Army because they dared say a prayer before giving out hot meals. R&D takes way too long and is way to unsure of a way to get payayaid
No, he's saying that if he were in charge, forcing people into his way of living, working this way, socialism, communism, et al., that everything would be good-o! Ya, with him in charge and behind the gun, doing the pointing and eliting.
It's still a chicken-and-the-egg thing. Lots of dumb kids get bullied but don't turn into geniuses. And smart kids stand out as teacher's pets even if they are not and hance get teased or bullied. Which came first? Brain changes or intelligence?
This is Slashdot, foo. Most people are still fantasizing about one girl at once. Hell, one human at once. Hell, something living, or hell, just something that isn't a pile of knives and broken glass at once.
Yeah, I remember Wolf 3D -- and the original Wolfenstein, too. Hell, I remember buying the Atari and getting bored of Combat the first weekend. Dad, can we go get another one? Hey, here's "Adventure", that looks good!
An hour later, leave the yellow castle, go down the big corridor to the right, down into the room below, a dragon came at me, hair stood on end! Holy crap! Never looked back. Yeah, maybe we should've gotten an Oddysee II, or even the Intellivision (they did have an actual Dungeons and Dragons game, OMG!) but damn was that expensive! Yeah, we didn't have any damned thumb-sticks, multiple buttons. We had an 8-way with simple direction switches, no rheostats, and one, count 'em, one fire button, and we liked it!
We didn't need no steenkeeng CD player -- we didn't even know what one was. A laser was that damned Shiva thing in the Guiness Book of World Records. You bought a fat disk to put in the middle of your 45 and put it on your eight million dollar record player with tinny speakers left over from Grandma's house when she moved to Florida, and you liked it! And that was assuming you didn't get a spanking for touching it in the first place. Because spankings was what real people did to train kids right, none of this touchey-feely stuff where the kids who came in last place at the Express-Your-Emotions-Taco-Bell T-ball tournament are praised as highly as those who busted ass and came in first, and get a trophy only one or two nanometers smaller with blue ribbons and holygrams on it. Nooo, if we lost, we didn't need people teasing us making a finger and a thumb in the shape of an L at us, no, we knew we were losers and we liked it! The coach would spank us and we'd go home crying from the T-ball and we'd get a another spanking for losing and we liked it!
No, and then there was the day we found gramma's old portable cassette tape player with its one tinny speaker and it had a cartridge you could put into the cassette spot that made it play AM radio. Holy god, that must have cost almost as much as the six million dollar man. That thing played electronic transcriptions, or "tape recordings", even though it couldn't record. That was the ten million dollar version and it weighted seven hundred pounds.
That thing was unbelievable. You can hear the music on the AM radio. The VCR and the DVD, there wasn't none of that crap back in 1970. We didn't know about a World Wide Web -- it was a whole different game being played back when I was a kid. Wanna get down in a cool way? Picture yourself on a beautiful day. Big bell bottoms and groovy long hair, just walkin' in style with a portable cd player? No, you would listen to the music on the AM radio. Yeah, you could hear the music on an AM radio.
Flashback, '72, another summer in the neighborhood, hangin' out with nothing to do. Sometmes we'd go drivin' around in my sister's Pinto, cruisin' with the windows rolled down. We'd listen to the radio station. We were too damn poor to buy the eight track tapes. There wasn't any good time to wanna be inside, my mama wanna watch that TV all Goddamn night.
I'd be in bed with the radio on -- I would listen to it all night long just to hear my favorite song. You'd have to wait but you could hear it on the AM radio. Yeah, you could hear the music on a AM radio -- I can still hear mama say, "Boy, turn that radio down!" "Aw, Mom. not that show again! I don't wanna watch that show! Can't we watch Six Million Dollar Man or Space 1999, something cool? Turn it off!
Things changed back in '75. We were all growing up on the in and the outside, if ya know what I mean, and there wasn't no pr0n to download either, no, you found an old playboy out behind the factories, or, Heaven forbid, an 8mm film reel some kid couldn't hide in his home and you looked at the frames through the light. Damn, it looks like that woman has a forearm coming out of her mouth.
We got in trouble with the police man. We got busted gettin' high in the back o
I still don't know why the WinFixer guys aren't in jail. It's been on my wife's laptop for a year, and Microsoft's anti-spyware can't make a dent in it (oh, it can find and remove VirtuMundo, but it can't stop it from reinstalling itself!)
And yes, I've tried several web sites. I look for the files they say to delete and they aren't even on my computer (and I do have hidden files, system files, et al. showing.)
If Firefox were being used by two hundred million people around the world and was therefore the target of thousands of hackers I submit it would have just as many holes if not more.
Why is it surprising that the exploits, deliberately targetted at IE, shouldn't affect Firefox all that much? The same argument applies to the "awesome security" of Linux vs. Windows. Were Linux to be on hundreds of millions of PCs around the world, and it were under assault from thousands of hackers, to quote Yoda, "When 800 hackers per component you reach, hold up so well you will not."
I now await flamebait or troll moderation. (Seriously, about 1/2 the time I bring this up, that's what happens around here.)
> U.K. shows that the 20th century was the warmest for the > northern hemisphere since approximately 800AD...The findings > support the argument for global warming as a result of human > interference rather than natural climate change
It also supports the conclusion that there's nothing terribly wrong with it, either.
But who cares when there's an economy to be crushed and power to be gained by politicians?
Decent personally doesn't mean they'd be good presidents, either economically (inflation, stagflation) or statecraft (fall of Saigon, hostages, broken military).
Similarly, you may not be a big fan of Clinton or Dubya, but you know you'd want to hang with both of 'em at a kegger.
Of course, that was Einstein's whole point. You are moving through spacetime at a constant rate -- the speed of light. The faster you go (relative to another thing) through the three spacial dimensions, something has to give so the total speed through spacetime remains constant -- and that is the speed through the time axis. Of course, the speed of light is awfully fast, so, when moving slowly relative to something, the loss in time is minute and hard to measure. As your speed approaches that of light through the space dimensions, your motion through the time dimension slows dramatically.
Note that, if you were somehow to hop over the speed of light and go faster, for the constant to remain the same -- the speed of light -- you'd have to actually be moving backwards through the time dimension. This was famously portrayed in the Star Trek episode where, to save the Enterprise from burning up in orbit, Spock and Scotty cold started the warp engines. Spock dryly noted afterwards, "We are moving through (regular) space (not warp[ed] space) faster than is possible, i.e. faster than the speed of light.
That was when time travel in Trek was cool, before the idiotic and nonsensical and overused "slingshot" method wrecked the whole franchise the likes of which even Wesley Crusher would not be able to do 30 years later.
Considering time to be a true dimension implies you could go back in time. If it's just a mathematical trick, then of course you couldn't. There is no copy of the entire universe one billionth of a Plank interval back, and another one before that, and so on.
> I'm not arguing against maintainability, I'm arguing > against the claim that there's no place for prima-donnas in programming.
Until the assfat is baking, stuck, sizzling, to the furnace door, and I have to come in and save you because you decided to use some HMI layout program that actually slows coding because of its hideous behind-the-scenes interface and you have 307 different classes including structs you made needlessly into a class.
My best bugfix:
2 Microsoft programmers onsite@$1000/day for 2 days - $4000
1 in-house "masters" CS for 2 days - $700
10 minutes of my effort after those two days: $5 (I was cheap back then)
Look on the "master's" face when my 10 minute inspection discerned the problem those three couldn't solve in 3 days: priceless (Hi, Amy!)
> Posting anonymously because too many people know my/. ID.
Yes, knowing a government agency was wasting money on a poorly designed, huge honkin' software project would greatly narrow things down and put you at risk.
He lands and the ladies swarm him. "Do you want sex with me because I'm a billionaire or because I own a music company or because I'm a daring adventurer?" "Can't we love you for all three reasons?"
> He will be flying for 3 days with 18000 pounds of fuel
Since I'm mathematically illeterate ("innumerate") I think, "What a waste of fuel!" We should ban him from doing this. Derring-do and records and forging new ground and exploration and "pushing the envelop" have no business in a modern democracy. If you don't have the permission of the people, you have nothing.
My leaders tell me that! I voted for them.
Tear him down! If he wants to do this, make him do it from some other stupid country.
> What if you and I both measure the length of a table? > We might both do the same measurement, but what if I > have a defect in my brain that makes 9s look like 5s? > So while there might be objective facts, they all get > filtered through our subjective brains.
Here's a better experiment to test subjectivity. I've got a gun pointed at your brain. If you move your brain the exact measurement of the length of the table, the bullet will miss. If you move it any farther, you will impale yourself on an iron maiden. Any less and the bullet will hit (it's a really big bullet.)
Think you can figure out the objective truth? I knew you could!
Don't crush his "alternative ways of knowing", man!
> Who decides what is or is not the truth?
Reality does, when you die because you stepped off the cliff you "knew" didn't exist. It's surprising how many philosophers refuse to put this to the test, hemming and hawwing about how it's not valid bladda bladda blada. Do it, and put your money where your mouth is.
Oops, I crushed "alternative ways of knowing", too.:gulp Sorry.
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> So who's really at fault here? The students? The hospital for
> not securing their computers and network? Or the adware companies for providing the incentive?
Just because it turns out Darth Vader is a whiney teenager doesn't mean he shouldn't be painfully and publically executed, nor the creative adult mastermind who used his creative powers to envision the whole fiasco.
Stupid Japanese dumping billions into developing robotics skills instead of where the real money is, suing the hell out of the Salvation Army because they dared say a prayer before giving out hot meals. R&D takes way too long and is way to unsure of a way to get payayaid
> are you saying that hierarchies are a problem?
No, he's saying that if he were in charge, forcing people into his way of living, working this way, socialism, communism, et al., that everything would be good-o! Ya, with him in charge and behind the gun, doing the pointing and eliting.
Burns r00lz!
Smithers, release the hounds.
It's still a chicken-and-the-egg thing. Lots of dumb kids get bullied but don't turn into geniuses. And smart kids stand out as teacher's pets even if they are not and hance get teased or bullied. Which came first? Brain changes or intelligence?
This is Slashdot, foo. Most people are still fantasizing about one girl at once. Hell, one human at once. Hell, something living, or hell, just something that isn't a pile of knives and broken glass at once.
Ya know, it wasn't until I was a homeowner that I realized how badly kids who cut across your yard needed regular canings. It's unbelievable.
Yeah, I remember Wolf 3D -- and the original Wolfenstein, too. Hell, I remember buying the Atari and getting bored of Combat the first weekend. Dad, can we go get another one? Hey, here's "Adventure", that looks good!
An hour later, leave the yellow castle, go down the big corridor to the right, down into the room below, a dragon came at me, hair stood on end! Holy crap! Never looked back. Yeah, maybe we should've gotten an Oddysee II, or even the Intellivision (they did have an actual Dungeons and Dragons game, OMG!) but damn was that expensive! Yeah, we didn't have any damned thumb-sticks, multiple buttons. We had an 8-way with simple direction switches, no rheostats, and one, count 'em, one fire button, and we liked it!
We didn't need no steenkeeng CD player -- we didn't even know what one was. A laser was that damned Shiva thing in the Guiness Book of World Records. You bought a fat disk to put in the middle of your 45 and put it on your eight million dollar record player with tinny speakers left over from Grandma's house when she moved to Florida, and you liked it! And that was assuming you didn't get a spanking for touching it in the first place. Because spankings was what real people did to train kids right, none of this touchey-feely stuff where the kids who came in last place at the Express-Your-Emotions-Taco-Bell T-ball tournament are praised as highly as those who busted ass and came in first, and get a trophy only one or two nanometers smaller with blue ribbons and holygrams on it. Nooo, if we lost, we didn't need people teasing us making a finger and a thumb in the shape of an L at us, no, we knew we were losers and we liked it! The coach would spank us and we'd go home crying from the T-ball and we'd get a another spanking for losing and we liked it!
No, and then there was the day we found gramma's old portable cassette tape player with its one tinny speaker and it had a cartridge you could put into the cassette spot that made it play AM radio. Holy god, that must have cost almost as much as the six million dollar man. That thing played electronic transcriptions, or "tape recordings", even though it couldn't record. That was the ten million dollar version and it weighted seven hundred pounds.
That thing was unbelievable. You can hear the music on the AM radio. The VCR and the DVD, there wasn't none of that crap back in 1970. We didn't know about a World Wide Web -- it was a whole different game being played back when I was a kid. Wanna get down in a cool way? Picture yourself on a beautiful day. Big bell bottoms and groovy long hair, just walkin' in style with a portable cd player? No, you would listen to the music on the AM radio. Yeah, you could hear the music on an AM radio.
Flashback, '72, another summer in the neighborhood, hangin' out with nothing to do. Sometmes we'd go drivin' around in my sister's Pinto, cruisin' with the windows rolled down. We'd listen to the radio station. We were too damn poor to buy the eight track tapes. There wasn't any good time to wanna be inside, my mama wanna watch that TV all Goddamn night.
I'd be in bed with the radio on -- I would listen to it all night long just to hear my favorite song. You'd have to wait but you could hear it on the AM radio. Yeah, you could hear the music on a AM radio -- I can still hear mama say, "Boy, turn that radio down!" "Aw, Mom. not that show again! I don't wanna watch that show! Can't we watch Six Million Dollar Man or Space 1999, something cool? Turn it off!
Things changed back in '75. We were all growing up on the in and the outside, if ya know what I mean, and there wasn't no pr0n to download either, no, you found an old playboy out behind the factories, or, Heaven forbid, an 8mm film reel some kid couldn't hide in his home and you looked at the frames through the light. Damn, it looks like that woman has a forearm coming out of her mouth.
We got in trouble with the police man. We got busted gettin' high in the back o
Public humiliation? Why not prison?
I still don't know why the WinFixer guys aren't in jail. It's been on my wife's laptop for a year, and Microsoft's anti-spyware can't make a dent in it (oh, it can find and remove VirtuMundo, but it can't stop it from reinstalling itself!)
And yes, I've tried several web sites. I look for the files they say to delete and they aren't even on my computer (and I do have hidden files, system files, et al. showing.)
If Firefox were being used by two hundred million people around the world and was therefore the target of thousands of hackers I submit it would have just as many holes if not more.
Why is it surprising that the exploits, deliberately targetted at IE, shouldn't affect Firefox all that much? The same argument applies to the "awesome security" of Linux vs. Windows. Were Linux to be on hundreds of millions of PCs around the world, and it were under assault from thousands of hackers, to quote Yoda, "When 800 hackers per component you reach, hold up so well you will not."
I now await flamebait or troll moderation. (Seriously, about 1/2 the time I bring this up, that's what happens around here.)
> U.K. shows that the 20th century was the warmest for the
> northern hemisphere since approximately 800AD...The findings
> support the argument for global warming as a result of human
> interference rather than natural climate change
It also supports the conclusion that there's nothing terribly wrong with it, either.
But who cares when there's an economy to be crushed and power to be gained by politicians?
Decent personally doesn't mean they'd be good presidents, either economically (inflation, stagflation) or statecraft (fall of Saigon, hostages, broken military).
Similarly, you may not be a big fan of Clinton or Dubya, but you know you'd want to hang with both of 'em at a kegger.
Of course, that was Einstein's whole point. You are moving through spacetime at a constant rate -- the speed of light. The faster you go (relative to another thing) through the three spacial dimensions, something has to give so the total speed through spacetime remains constant -- and that is the speed through the time axis. Of course, the speed of light is awfully fast, so, when moving slowly relative to something, the loss in time is minute and hard to measure. As your speed approaches that of light through the space dimensions, your motion through the time dimension slows dramatically.
Note that, if you were somehow to hop over the speed of light and go faster, for the constant to remain the same -- the speed of light -- you'd have to actually be moving backwards through the time dimension. This was famously portrayed in the Star Trek episode where, to save the Enterprise from burning up in orbit, Spock and Scotty cold started the warp engines. Spock dryly noted afterwards, "We are moving through (regular) space (not warp[ed] space) faster than is possible, i.e. faster than the speed of light.
That was when time travel in Trek was cool, before the idiotic and nonsensical and overused "slingshot" method wrecked the whole franchise the likes of which even Wesley Crusher would not be able to do 30 years later.
Considering time to be a true dimension implies you could go back in time. If it's just a mathematical trick, then of course you couldn't. There is no copy of the entire universe one billionth of a Plank interval back, and another one before that, and so on.
> I'm not arguing against maintainability, I'm arguing
> against the claim that there's no place for prima-donnas in programming.
Until the assfat is baking, stuck, sizzling, to the furnace door, and I have to come in and save you because you decided to use some HMI layout program that actually slows coding because of its hideous behind-the-scenes interface and you have 307 different classes including structs you made needlessly into a class.
My best bugfix:
2 Microsoft programmers onsite@$1000/day for 2 days - $4000
1 in-house "masters" CS for 2 days - $700
10 minutes of my effort after those two days: $5 (I was cheap back then)
Look on the "master's" face when my 10 minute inspection discerned the problem those three couldn't solve in 3 days: priceless (Hi, Amy!)
> Me and my kindergarten teacher will go program
> some stuff that actually makes us excited to be
> in the programming field. And, btw, she's hot!
Son of a bitch! You are one precocious six year old! Way to go, little dude!
Then you gotta unroll the thing anyway because your embedded system can't afford the stack space overhead.
> Posting anonymously because too many people know my /. ID.
Yes, knowing a government agency was wasting money on a poorly designed, huge honkin' software project would greatly narrow things down and put you at risk.
I just inspected code where the guy memset'd to 0 a FILE *f pointer after fopen and he was done using it.
Once you are scared of the beast you learn to treat it with respect!
> Or better still, leave it alone.
Hence slashdotters average interaction with females is
Shit, this is too easy.
> is loser material too
He lands and the ladies swarm him. "Do you want sex with me because I'm a billionaire or because I own a music company or because I'm a daring adventurer?" "Can't we love you for all three reasons?"
We should all be such losers.
> He will be flying for 3 days with 18000 pounds of fuel
Since I'm mathematically illeterate ("innumerate") I think, "What a waste of fuel!" We should ban him from doing this. Derring-do and records and forging new ground and exploration and "pushing the envelop" have no business in a modern democracy. If you don't have the permission of the people, you have nothing .
My leaders tell me that! I voted for them.
Tear him down! If he wants to do this, make him do it from some other stupid country.
> Andrew Carol has designed and built a working Babbage Difference Engine out of LEGO
So much for the "19th century engineering couldn't actually build such a thing" BS. I wanna see one made out of wood as carved by hatchet!
> What if you and I both measure the length of a table?
> We might both do the same measurement, but what if I
> have a defect in my brain that makes 9s look like 5s?
> So while there might be objective facts, they all get
> filtered through our subjective brains.
Here's a better experiment to test subjectivity. I've got a gun pointed at your brain. If you move your brain the exact measurement of the length of the table, the bullet will miss. If you move it any farther, you will impale yourself on an iron maiden. Any less and the bullet will hit (it's a really big bullet.)
Think you can figure out the objective truth? I knew you could!
Don't crush his "alternative ways of knowing", man!
:gulp Sorry.
> Who decides what is or is not the truth?
Reality does, when you die because you stepped off the cliff you "knew" didn't exist. It's surprising how many philosophers refuse to put this to the test, hemming and hawwing about how it's not valid bladda bladda blada. Do it, and put your money where your mouth is.
Oops, I crushed "alternative ways of knowing", too.