Doesn't matter. Why do you think you have a right to break the law? As for seatbelt laws I don't see why my tax money should be used to scrape your stupid carcass off the road because you think you have a right to go flying through your windscreen in an accident.
No we aren't. We're talking most games, lots of apps and lots of devices. Look I think that Macs are great but calling people stupid for not wanting a system that costs more and doesn't run everything they want it to is a bit much really. People buy x86 systems with Windows because they know that it will run everything they throw at it albeit with all the 'joys' of malware and random crashing at the same time. My point was never that Windows is better, it's just so entrenched that either the EU taking Win32 off MS or a complete technological shift is going to move it.
It doesn't have to be major software though does it? It just has to be a device with Windows-only drivers that you need to use or an app that will never be ported to anything but the latest version of Windows. You forget that people use PCs for all sorts of things and that a lot of things will only work with a Windows box. Otherwise I'd be typing this in Linux right now instead of being in Windows about to log on to my favourite MMORPG which only runs on Windows. All those apps above either exist natively or can run with Crossover. That isn't the case with everything though, the above-mentioned MMORPG refuses to run under WINE, Cedega or Crossover.
Bollocks. How long would an exploit of this magnitude be allowed to exist in the OSS world. Not this fucking long with a pathetic workaround that doesn't even address the problem properly. The more I read about this the more nervous it's making me and I'm just a home user with a couple of PCs to look after. I'd very much hate to be a corporate Windows sysadmin right now.
you just have to shell out a slight premium for the hardware, and given that you get a REAL OS with it
A real OS that won't run a large proportion of the software people want to run. It doesn't matter how good it is it's how practical it is that counts. I'd quite like an Apple myself but it can't do everything that I want my Windows box to do. Same reason that I have a Linux partition rather than a solely Linux box.
I wish I could, however my favourite MMORPG stubbornly refuses to run properly under either WINE or Cedega and since it's not a popular game like WoW there's not much of a chance of it working in the near to mid-term. Microsoft should have Win32 taken away from them; it's ridiculous that such an important (albeit horrible) API is under the control of one company that shows such contempt for the customers that are stuck with their shoddy products.
Some examples of how it isn't succeeding would be nice. It seems to autodetect hardware easily enough these days, the main GUIs are very similar to Windows and command line use is pretty much unnecessary these days. The old chestnut about it being hard to install is largely irrelevant since Windows is just as good at blowing up on an install too.
Why do so many US citizens on here make light of prison rape? I despise criminals as much as anyone else, but I can't think of many crimes where being sexually assaulted and suffering for a lifetime with PTSD would be a fit punishment.
You obviously don't provide unpaid tech support for friends, family and co-workers then. Windows isn't user-friendly it's just more familiar than the alternatives.
Cue Microsoft shill coming on to deny that people have no choice; that people wouldn't buy Microsoft if they didn't want to; that we're both commies etc ad nauseum
And how do you do that? Lock them in their bedrooms until they're 18? Keeping objectionable material/substances out of the hands of kids is very difficult and isn't helped by stupid corporations being quite happy to sell anything to anyone irrespective of consequences. This isn't about banning such stuff, it's about trying to prevent kids from seeing or doing things they don't have the maturity to deal with.
Much like the requirement for anti-virus, spyware remover(s) and firewall on Windows. Why would a desktop OS need any ports open or to respond to ICMP by default in any case?
In the UK we went one better. The Post Office was renamed to Consignia and it hasn't even been privatised. And then the name was dropped because it was stupid and the clown in charge (one of those captains of industry that supposedly can make public services better) has gone to spend more time with his stock options.
The previous poster seemed to be confusing the dictionary definition of theory, an unproven hypothesis, with the scientific usage, which is something, whilst not established fact, has been tested and is the best current explanation. I do have a religion unto myself it's true, I'm a Catholic, albeit a lapsed one.
But you can't do Add/Remove Programs->Internet Explorer->Uninstall. Installing a whole new shell just to get rid of the web browser integration sounds a bit daft to me.
Made in Japan has always (at least since I was young) meant quality. Makers of lower quality goods here in the UK used to use a Japanese-sounding brand name as it had high quality connotations.
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Doesn't matter. Why do you think you have a right to break the law? As for seatbelt laws I don't see why my tax money should be used to scrape your stupid carcass off the road because you think you have a right to go flying through your windscreen in an accident.
No we aren't. We're talking most games, lots of apps and lots of devices. Look I think that Macs are great but calling people stupid for not wanting a system that costs more and doesn't run everything they want it to is a bit much really. People buy x86 systems with Windows because they know that it will run everything they throw at it albeit with all the 'joys' of malware and random crashing at the same time. My point was never that Windows is better, it's just so entrenched that either the EU taking Win32 off MS or a complete technological shift is going to move it.
It doesn't have to be major software though does it? It just has to be a device with Windows-only drivers that you need to use or an app that will never be ported to anything but the latest version of Windows. You forget that people use PCs for all sorts of things and that a lot of things will only work with a Windows box. Otherwise I'd be typing this in Linux right now instead of being in Windows about to log on to my favourite MMORPG which only runs on Windows.
All those apps above either exist natively or can run with Crossover. That isn't the case with everything though, the above-mentioned MMORPG refuses to run under WINE, Cedega or Crossover.
Bollocks. How long would an exploit of this magnitude be allowed to exist in the OSS world. Not this fucking long with a pathetic workaround that doesn't even address the problem properly. The more I read about this the more nervous it's making me and I'm just a home user with a couple of PCs to look after. I'd very much hate to be a corporate Windows sysadmin right now.
Yeh that's a fun game too but you don't get to play it for very long more's the pity.
you just have to shell out a slight premium for the hardware, and given that you get a REAL OS with it
A real OS that won't run a large proportion of the software people want to run. It doesn't matter how good it is it's how practical it is that counts. I'd quite like an Apple myself but it can't do everything that I want my Windows box to do. Same reason that I have a Linux partition rather than a solely Linux box.
I wish I could, however my favourite MMORPG stubbornly refuses to run properly under either WINE or Cedega and since it's not a popular game like WoW there's not much of a chance of it working in the near to mid-term. Microsoft should have Win32 taken away from them; it's ridiculous that such an important (albeit horrible) API is under the control of one company that shows such contempt for the customers that are stuck with their shoddy products.
Okey dokey I'll save the $16 + the cost of Vista and not upgrade at all.
Some examples of how it isn't succeeding would be nice. It seems to autodetect hardware easily enough these days, the main GUIs are very similar to Windows and command line use is pretty much unnecessary these days. The old chestnut about it being hard to install is largely irrelevant since Windows is just as good at blowing up on an install too.
Why do so many US citizens on here make light of prison rape? I despise criminals as much as anyone else, but I can't think of many crimes where being sexually assaulted and suffering for a lifetime with PTSD would be a fit punishment.
Also being from Britain and having 3 sisters, would you like a fat lip?
You obviously don't provide unpaid tech support for friends, family and co-workers then. Windows isn't user-friendly it's just more familiar than the alternatives.
Cue Microsoft shill coming on to deny that people have no choice; that people wouldn't buy Microsoft if they didn't want to; that we're both commies etc ad nauseum
And how do you do that? Lock them in their bedrooms until they're 18? Keeping objectionable material/substances out of the hands of kids is very difficult and isn't helped by stupid corporations being quite happy to sell anything to anyone irrespective of consequences. This isn't about banning such stuff, it's about trying to prevent kids from seeing or doing things they don't have the maturity to deal with.
Much like the requirement for anti-virus, spyware remover(s) and firewall on Windows. Why would a desktop OS need any ports open or to respond to ICMP by default in any case?
What are you talking about?
In the UK we went one better. The Post Office was renamed to Consignia and it hasn't even been privatised. And then the name was dropped because it was stupid and the clown in charge (one of those captains of industry that supposedly can make public services better) has gone to spend more time with his stock options.
Apologies for that, I should have checked the link, but still it doesn't allow you to remove IE once Windows is already on there.
I'm confused by what you're saying about dual graphics cards. The card in my XP/Linux box quite happily does two displays from the one card.
I think I over-reacted to be fair. I don't like my religion being hijacked, especially given the history of the Catholic church.
I bet you can't be bothered to train people in the skills you need since that is a risk and risk is a dirty word in corporate circles.
Perhaps because OS X isn't crap.
The previous poster seemed to be confusing the dictionary definition of theory, an unproven hypothesis, with the scientific usage, which is something, whilst not established fact, has been tested and is the best current explanation. I do have a religion unto myself it's true, I'm a Catholic, albeit a lapsed one.
But you can't do Add/Remove Programs->Internet Explorer->Uninstall. Installing a whole new shell just to get rid of the web browser integration sounds a bit daft to me.
Made in Japan has always (at least since I was young) meant quality. Makers of lower quality goods here in the UK used to use a Japanese-sounding brand name as it had high quality connotations.