I love running Word 5.1 on my older macs in OS 9, its soooooo much faster than 98 or 2001. Even running it in Classic as a fast-opening, fairly capable word processor isn't a bad idea. I've still got all the original install floppies for the Entire '92 Office Suite for Mac.... ah, the good old days!
but this question is just sad. CHERISH AND APPRECIATE EVERY MOMENT with your significant other. He/She doesn't have to sit there and put up with your quirks and intricacies. They aren't required to deal with you ignoring them in favor of a video game. They aren't there to be there when its convenient for you. You will get much more out of a healthy, loving relationship than you ever will from a bunch of hours sunk uselessly into gaming. Seriously think about this question and you will realize the answer is "Holy shit, I'm actually weighing my life partner against a video game! how incredibly selfish self-centered and utterly shallow of me!"
Its no wonder geeks are lonely. They have no interpersonal skills. Not that I'm so much better, I really screwed up my last relationship via 'harmless' personal time to dawdle and hack together various computer bits, only realzing too late that I could have spent that time on picnics or walks through the park or taking in a good movie or discussing a book or learning something about my ex that I didn't know before.
I'll say it again: CHERISH AND APPRECIATE EVERY MOMENT with your significant other. They are choosing to be with you and if you continue to debase them by ignoring them for video games, you'll get what you deserve: a broken heart and a bunch of uncaring unfeeling pixels staring back at you in your emptiness.
But I did hear an apocryphal story about the only recorded death of a caffeine overdose.
Apparently, some nurse was adjusting IV drips in a comatose patient. Saline was supposed to be up to 1500ml/hr, and caffiene at 10 ml/hr. She accidentally turned the caffiene up to 1500ml/hr. Patient died stiff as a board.
Don't ask me to back this up, I have no proof whatsoever. But its a nice story anyway.
I don't have a 5.1 receiver, but its an old Mitsubishi that does do regular 4channel Dolby Surround, and all my MP3s ripped w/ iTunes keep the surround channel intact. This is most easily noticeable when listneing to Tool (especially Forty-Six and Two, the drums sway back and forth and right and left - very cool!)
Haven't tried playing them thru a 5.1 receiver, maybe that's what's new.
i'm definitely not an MS fan, and i try to use their software as little as possible. unfortunately VLC can't play all the WMF files I run across, so I have to use their player. I use AppleWorks or TextEdit for most of my home (very basic) word processing.
But I have to say there's some great new features in Mac Office 2004. Word has what looks to be a really neat note taking mode, with full audio recording capabilities as well.
Here's a link - although MS's WinTel products may be shite, the MBU does some really nice work.
I'm not even a linux geek (Mac OS X guy with some BSD on whiteboxes) but even I read the headline thinking "SWEET! Skywalker Ranch made their own ultra-badass super stable and highly useful in-house version of WINE and they're open-sourcing it!"
Fucking actual wine. I LOVE wine. Don't get me wrong. But it woulda been cooler if they unleashed a seriously reliable way to run Windows binaries on linux.:(
Accusing the Bush regime of lying to fit their agenda is like going up to a guy wearing a mask, all black, carring a burlap sack of high-priced electronics, whilst running from the po-leece, and saying "Hey! You're a theif!"
What's sad is that they had to bring this to the world's attention. As a general rule of thumb, if the leader of the world's most powerful nation says something is fact, its usually suspect, and its a good idea to check the research. Especially if said leader is a Republican. Or a Democrat.
Oh well. Maybe some enterprising country will stage a coup and 'liberate' us from our dictator if he gets elected again. Sort of an international intervention. "Look America, generally you're an OK country, but this Bush rut you've got yourself stuck in - look, we know you won't think so now, but this is for the best - trust us."
Like Europe is any better? Use the force, Luke - and look into the past.
Government has always subsidized enterprise and vice versa. Columbus raping the West Indies, Britain colonizing the entire world, fsck, dude, the Roman Empire - ALL gov't is corrupt. And its not like US corporations only fsck over americans, either - GE convinced the French gov't to build a nuclear power plant on a fault line.
The courts were DEVISED as a way of INTERPRETING law, not UPHOLDING it. Read your civics textbook. The entire "mockery" you speak of is the same you'd see in any country the world over. Countires bending over backwards to get nukes and into space while most of the populace lives in poverty.
Big business has ALWAYS controlled Gov't, as has the media conglomerates - by chanelling public opinion to back a certain war (Spanish-American or Iraqi Freedom) for the benefits of the corporations who build the weapons and such. They've ALWAYS worked together to fsck the people, ALWAYS.
You're just another sad individual who is so short sighted you actually believe this "land of the free" crap they shove down your throat. It never was, friend, and it never will be.
Now go fill your car with gas, pound the pavement with your sweatshop-made sneakers, pump your stomach full of grease laden fast food and overpriced coffee from S'leven, and keep talkin' about how the man is running amok. You're amusing me.
You really hate Apple don't you? Seems like a lot of your posts are fueled by your hatred and jealousy.
You truly are a Dark Lord of the Sith.
Cheaper: not an issue when you're filming fsck'ing LotR.
Faster: Not an issue when you're using it to TRANSPORT video and not EDIT DIRECTLY FROM.
Capacity: Not an issue when you've got a finite amount of data to carry anyway.
Why buy a 200GB drive that weighs a couple pounds and requires external power to use when it'll fit on an iPod that is smaller, more versative, can keep you in music while you're traveling, runs off bus power, can be personally engraved (comes in handy when trying to identify what in on which drive), and, here's the most important part: GETS THE JOB DONE.
You're a very well dressed troll, sir, but a troll you remain.
Never once did I say "Buy A Mac Instead" or "macs aren't overpriced."
All I did was compare a Linux PC's price to what most people consider to be an already over priced machine for perspective.
It seems that you are the zealot here - rabidly defending a system I didn't bring up in a context I didn't create. You're the type of person that has a few beers at a bar, picks a fight, and winds up getting your sorry ass kicked in the back alley, all the while screaming "I'm gonna get you back, man!" when all you had to do was not mouth off to begin with.
So please, piss off. I didn't come here to insult your platform, screwhead - all I did was point out something I thought was interesting, namely that a Linux based PC was more expensive than a comparable Mac - a fact which surprised me, because i KNOW Macs are priced above what most PCs are priced at. Whether or not I feel they are worth it never entered into it. It simply struck me as interesting that a PC without the MS tax was more expensive than a Mac. Plain and simple.
Is this post offtopic? Sure. But so was the post I responded to about Element computers. Anyway, the short n curly of it is, you're misinformed about a great many things, you misinterpreted my post, and you'll go through life as one of those people that others generally only "put up with." Cheers, you primitive screwhead, the Guinness is on me.
Plus, the iMac has the same type of RAM, its not SDRAM. You should read more closely.
Tax software also comes with the Mac, and there is no difference between the Pro and Home computer's OS - its identical because Mac OS X is completely scalable for anyone's individual needs.
Plus the Mac has 2 FireWire, 3 USB 2.0, TV out as well, MUCH smaller footprint, is silent, higher-quality audio input and output, PLENTY of games available (I already linked to a crapload of games in another post, so I won't bother here - you're obvioulsy stuck in 1996), iLife software built in (Please - tell me what's equiavalent to GarageBand for PCs - and is free with any new PC).
And when did I say that all PCs were cheaper? Never. I was more taking a shot at Element for their highly overpriced PCs that should be much cheaper because they DON'T pay the MS Tax.
Also note that it involves _no_ assembling stuff on your own.
This should go without saying.
Macs also come WITHOUT spyware, which I would consider worth a ton of money. And without the ability to get the horrendous viruses that plague Windows. See, even though the hardware may seem overpriced to you, the SOFTWARE is what REALLY differentiates Macs, you PC people can't seem to realize that. My time is worth so much more than having to spend it reinstalling Windows every 6 months due to the fact its performance degrades exponentially over time without any sort of user intervention, having to religiously update Virus definitions, fret over e-mail attachments, rebuilding the whole system every time a virus takes it down.
Again, it seems you saved a few bucks, but your personal time is absolutely worthless. Sorry to hear that.
Actually, no. I haven't stolen a single piece of software on my computer, and it's still cheaper than those macs.
This may be so, but since there's absolutely no comparison for iLife in the PC world, you still lose out here.
Plus, there's something about being able to upgrade that PC as needed, instead of being locked into Apple's (or Dell's) lame "throw away the whole computer and buy a new one" scheme.
Actually, you CAN upgrade iMacs. Its a long-standing myth that Macs are not upgradable, they have been for quite some time. They use industry standard HDs, RAM, etc. And since Macs traditionally have a much longer usable life, this isn't a valid point either. I bought a blue and white G3 in 1999. It now has a G4, DVD-R, 200GB storage, 1GB RAM, upgraded video card, etc. Not a single piece is stock, and it still fits all my needs. Upgradable and long lasting.
And unlike the Mac, I can actually run games on this machine.
Do I need to buy a new OS _minor_ version every year, like you Mac fans seem happy to? Hell, no.
There's nothing minor about the changes between 10, 10.1, 10.2, and 10.3. Its just that they release MAJOR system updates more frequently. And most software that runs on 10.3 will run on 10.2 and 10.1 as well. And 10.1 was a free upgrade from 10.0. Do your homework, you're obviously misinformed.
So putting that all together, it's cost me about 1000$ to swap a new mobo, an A64 3200+ and a Radeon 9800 XT into the existing computer. Even if I'm to add the price of the already bought 16ms LCD monitor (which is light-years ahead of the lame cheap-ass panel in the iMac), I still end up under 1500$
And iMacs start at 1299, cheaper than your 1500 quote, and a consumer doesn't have to waste days putting it all together, installing OSes, downloading drivers, etc. You get the picture. I'm guessing your time isn't worth anything.
So, please... just because you're the non-technical kind who's terminally affraid to install a CPU, doesn't mean everyone else is in the same bracket. You stick to your Macs, I'll stick to my PC.
I build PCs too buddy. Its a pretty much "slot-A into tab-A" affair, and if I were you I wouldn't take so much pride in it - somewhere out there is an 8 year old who could built a PC that's better faster and cheaper. And to clear things up, I've upgraded processors on many Macs as well. If I want a router/firewall, cheap secondary box, project box, I'd use commodity parts and a free OS. But if I'm going to sit in front of a computer that has my whole life on it, and handles all my day to day tasks that make life FUN, not just FUNCTIONAL, its all about the Mac.
This all pretty much adds up to your arguments being hollow and your pride being hurt by the fact that you couldn't possibly have made the wrong computing choice, even though you never bothered to do all the research. Obviously.
This is my favorite quote: In the other corner a lame iMac which is useless for anything except web browsing
Hahahahahahahahahahaha! Doesn't even merit a response. You've obviously never used one and haven't spent enough time doing anything other than gaming on your PC to realize that for media, internet, networking, printing, PDF workflow, ease-of-use, stability, extensibility, and much much more, the iMac wins hands down.
I mean, how can you sit there and say that a full UNIX based system that allows joe schmoe to use apache, SMB, NFS, AFP, WebDAV, N
I wasn't trying to support the little guy, silly goose. I was pointing out just how farcical this whole process is. I mean with quotes like
I support sterilization Laws to enforce it against - Dopers - Drunks - Retards and Illegal Aliens
and he's on the same page with Dubya, who's only a little bit less of a clown, and it really shows just how pathetic our choices are, how meaningless the position is, and how badly we're all being mislead while someone else is running off with the money.
iMac 17"
512MB DDR333 - 2 DIMMs
80GB Ultra ATA drive
Keyboard/Mac OS X - U.S. English
17-inch flat panel LCD
1.25GHz PowerPC G4
4x SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW)
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
Apple Keyboard
Apple Mouse
Apple Pro Speakers $1,899.00
iMac is cheaper, has a dedicated graphics card, a professionally supported UNIX OS, a better processor for any sort of media, better built-in software, a 4x DVD-R, and 20GB more HD space, not to mention the better design and compatibility with all sorts of other devices. Plus options for internal bluetooth, etc.
Sure, it seems really cheesy and horrible to be able to "purchase" your candidate online, but at the same time, it give equal screen space to people like Dubya, Sharpton, and... holy cow, who is this?
When I really started going nuts and encoding all my CDs in several binge-like sessions, I had my internal DVD-ROM and external CD-RW hooked up. I have the "Import and Eject" feature turned on, and I drop in one CD, wait for iTunes to recognize it, and then drop in the other.
iTunes would encode one, spit it out, and move to the other. Then I'd pop a new disk in the open drive and the process would repeat.
I haven't done this lately as I've imported most of the CDs I really wanted done already, but I don't see any real reason why it wouldn't still work this way.
And it probably would slow the computer down more then 2x because not only is it doing both jobs, but the processes have to keep switching back and forth waiting for processing time, and that swapping will eat up a small but real amount of CPU power. So I don't think you'll get any real advantage to doing them at once - it may be slower than doing them sequentially one at a time.
Hey comic book guy, you have a low self esteem don't you?
If you're referring to my roomates, then yes. But I don't read comics, and my self-esteem is fine. Its the esteem I hold the rest of society in. So, if anything, you could say I'm narcissistic, but if you did, I'd punch you.
What other race are you comparing us to? The ones you see in Star Trek or something?
When did I say I was making comparisons to other races? I'm merely speculating that we should be put back into the evolutionary oven to bake a few more eons before we undertake this mission without fully understanding the implications.
As far as Star Trek goes, well, I don't know what to say there. I try to keep fiction out of my assessments of the real-world problems that I face. I'm not one to draw analogies from a 40 year old sci-fi show.
Surely we are the MOST developed of any creature we know, the most self-sacrficing, and the smartest.
Actually, I'd put dolphins ahead of us here.
You don't see and humans jumping through hoops at sea world for a fish, do you?
Again, the dolphins are in complete control here. Without them, humans wouldn't pay the insane ticket prices that fund the salaries of the fish-feeders, whose jobs are infinitely harder and have less day-to-day rewards than the jobs of, say, the dolphins.
Technological advancement is NOT a sign of intelligence, merely laziness. Most humans can figure out a VCR if you leave them alone with it for a little while. When most humans can BUILD a VCR from scratch, then I'll agree that we're sufficiently advanced enough to go gallavanting around the galaxy.
You, and the responses like yours, are short sighted - you have been blinded by your allegiance to your base protein structures and fail to take into account that fact that in no case is the subject of a study or experiment qualified to judge their own competence in that study or experiment. We should be judged by an independant counsel of extraterrestrial space explorers. So thpth!
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I love running Word 5.1 on my older macs in OS 9, its soooooo much faster than 98 or 2001. Even running it in Classic as a fast-opening, fairly capable word processor isn't a bad idea. I've still got all the original install floppies for the Entire '92 Office Suite for Mac.... ah, the good old days!
If you want a comedian with a social bend to his wit, try out some Bill Hicks.
There's scads of free audio/video that you can stream from Sacred Cow.
He's a very mind-opening speaker and very funny as well. Some of his best on stage moments are when he lashes back at an unreceptive audience.
thanks. that means a lot. i was about to hunt you down and slaughter you, you insensitive clod. ;)
but this question is just sad. CHERISH AND APPRECIATE EVERY MOMENT with your significant other. He/She doesn't have to sit there and put up with your quirks and intricacies. They aren't required to deal with you ignoring them in favor of a video game. They aren't there to be there when its convenient for you. You will get much more out of a healthy, loving relationship than you ever will from a bunch of hours sunk uselessly into gaming. Seriously think about this question and you will realize the answer is "Holy shit, I'm actually weighing my life partner against a video game! how incredibly selfish self-centered and utterly shallow of me!"
Its no wonder geeks are lonely. They have no interpersonal skills. Not that I'm so much better, I really screwed up my last relationship via 'harmless' personal time to dawdle and hack together various computer bits, only realzing too late that I could have spent that time on picnics or walks through the park or taking in a good movie or discussing a book or learning something about my ex that I didn't know before.
I'll say it again: CHERISH AND APPRECIATE EVERY MOMENT with your significant other. They are choosing to be with you and if you continue to debase them by ignoring them for video games, you'll get what you deserve: a broken heart and a bunch of uncaring unfeeling pixels staring back at you in your emptiness.
But I did hear an apocryphal story about the only recorded death of a caffeine overdose.
Apparently, some nurse was adjusting IV drips in a comatose patient. Saline was supposed to be up to 1500ml/hr, and caffiene at 10 ml/hr. She accidentally turned the caffiene up to 1500ml/hr. Patient died stiff as a board.
Don't ask me to back this up, I have no proof whatsoever. But its a nice story anyway.
I don't have a 5.1 receiver, but its an old Mitsubishi that does do regular 4channel Dolby Surround, and all my MP3s ripped w/ iTunes keep the surround channel intact. This is most easily noticeable when listneing to Tool (especially Forty-Six and Two, the drums sway back and forth and right and left - very cool!)
Haven't tried playing them thru a 5.1 receiver, maybe that's what's new.
i'm definitely not an MS fan, and i try to use their software as little as possible. unfortunately VLC can't play all the WMF files I run across, so I have to use their player. I use AppleWorks or TextEdit for most of my home (very basic) word processing.
But I have to say there's some great new features in Mac Office 2004. Word has what looks to be a really neat note taking mode, with full audio recording capabilities as well.
Here's a link - although MS's WinTel products may be shite, the MBU does some really nice work.
Now, if only other broadband ISPs would start policing their user base ...
Did I really just read that on Slashdot? The sky is falling and I want my mommy!
I'm not even a linux geek (Mac OS X guy with some BSD on whiteboxes) but even I read the headline thinking "SWEET! Skywalker Ranch made their own ultra-badass super stable and highly useful in-house version of WINE and they're open-sourcing it!"
:(
Fucking actual wine. I LOVE wine. Don't get me wrong. But it woulda been cooler if they unleashed a seriously reliable way to run Windows binaries on linux.
Accusing the Bush regime of lying to fit their agenda is like going up to a guy wearing a mask, all black, carring a burlap sack of high-priced electronics, whilst running from the po-leece, and saying "Hey! You're a theif!"
What's sad is that they had to bring this to the world's attention. As a general rule of thumb, if the leader of the world's most powerful nation says something is fact, its usually suspect, and its a good idea to check the research. Especially if said leader is a Republican. Or a Democrat.
Oh well. Maybe some enterprising country will stage a coup and 'liberate' us from our dictator if he gets elected again. Sort of an international intervention. "Look America, generally you're an OK country, but this Bush rut you've got yourself stuck in - look, we know you won't think so now, but this is for the best - trust us."
Kid: Mommy, mommy, I think our space station is falling apart!
Mommy: Shutup and keep your finger plugging that hole in the hull!
I'll take 1/64th of one!
Do you get money for ridiculing people on Slashdot? Do you really need to buy that much Oxy 10?
Goddamn, dude - every post I read by you is a self-important pat on the back when you really have no reason to think so highly of yourself.
Just cuz yer mom says she loves you and you're cool doesn't mean that you are, or that she really does.
Like Europe is any better? Use the force, Luke - and look into the past.
Government has always subsidized enterprise and vice versa. Columbus raping the West Indies, Britain colonizing the entire world, fsck, dude, the Roman Empire - ALL gov't is corrupt. And its not like US corporations only fsck over americans, either - GE convinced the French gov't to build a nuclear power plant on a fault line.
The courts were DEVISED as a way of INTERPRETING law, not UPHOLDING it. Read your civics textbook. The entire "mockery" you speak of is the same you'd see in any country the world over. Countires bending over backwards to get nukes and into space while most of the populace lives in poverty.
Big business has ALWAYS controlled Gov't, as has the media conglomerates - by chanelling public opinion to back a certain war (Spanish-American or Iraqi Freedom) for the benefits of the corporations who build the weapons and such. They've ALWAYS worked together to fsck the people, ALWAYS.
You're just another sad individual who is so short sighted you actually believe this "land of the free" crap they shove down your throat. It never was, friend, and it never will be.
Now go fill your car with gas, pound the pavement with your sweatshop-made sneakers, pump your stomach full of grease laden fast food and overpriced coffee from S'leven, and keep talkin' about how the man is running amok. You're amusing me.
You really hate Apple don't you? Seems like a lot of your posts are fueled by your hatred and jealousy.
You truly are a Dark Lord of the Sith.
Cheaper: not an issue when you're filming fsck'ing LotR.
Faster: Not an issue when you're using it to TRANSPORT video and not EDIT DIRECTLY FROM.
Capacity: Not an issue when you've got a finite amount of data to carry anyway.
Why buy a 200GB drive that weighs a couple pounds and requires external power to use when it'll fit on an iPod that is smaller, more versative, can keep you in music while you're traveling, runs off bus power, can be personally engraved (comes in handy when trying to identify what in on which drive), and, here's the most important part: GETS THE JOB DONE.
You're a very well dressed troll, sir, but a troll you remain.
Never once did I say "Buy A Mac Instead" or "macs aren't overpriced."
All I did was compare a Linux PC's price to what most people consider to be an already over priced machine for perspective.
It seems that you are the zealot here - rabidly defending a system I didn't bring up in a context I didn't create. You're the type of person that has a few beers at a bar, picks a fight, and winds up getting your sorry ass kicked in the back alley, all the while screaming "I'm gonna get you back, man!" when all you had to do was not mouth off to begin with.
So please, piss off. I didn't come here to insult your platform, screwhead - all I did was point out something I thought was interesting, namely that a Linux based PC was more expensive than a comparable Mac - a fact which surprised me, because i KNOW Macs are priced above what most PCs are priced at. Whether or not I feel they are worth it never entered into it. It simply struck me as interesting that a PC without the MS tax was more expensive than a Mac. Plain and simple.
Is this post offtopic? Sure. But so was the post I responded to about Element computers. Anyway, the short n curly of it is, you're misinformed about a great many things, you misinterpreted my post, and you'll go through life as one of those people that others generally only "put up with." Cheers, you primitive screwhead, the Guinness is on me.
Try telling that to Walt Whitman!
Also note that the DVD writer software and everything _is_ included in the price.
So is the Macs.
A more exact comparison would be a 2 GHz Celeron machine with el-cheapo SDR RAM. That's still faster than the G4, but not as overkill as the P4.
Completely false. The G4 in the iMac is a far superior chip to the Celeron, and is on par with the P4 in some respects and much better in others,/a>
Plus, the iMac has the same type of RAM, its not SDRAM. You should read more closely.
Tax software also comes with the Mac, and there is no difference between the Pro and Home computer's OS - its identical because Mac OS X is completely scalable for anyone's individual needs.
Plus the Mac has 2 FireWire, 3 USB 2.0, TV out as well, MUCH smaller footprint, is silent, higher-quality audio input and output, PLENTY of games available (I already linked to a crapload of games in another post, so I won't bother here - you're obvioulsy stuck in 1996), iLife software built in (Please - tell me what's equiavalent to GarageBand for PCs - and is free with any new PC).
And when did I say that all PCs were cheaper? Never. I was more taking a shot at Element for their highly overpriced PCs that should be much cheaper because they DON'T pay the MS Tax.
Also note that it involves _no_ assembling stuff on your own.
This should go without saying.
Macs also come WITHOUT spyware, which I would consider worth a ton of money. And without the ability to get the horrendous viruses that plague Windows. See, even though the hardware may seem overpriced to you, the SOFTWARE is what REALLY differentiates Macs, you PC people can't seem to realize that. My time is worth so much more than having to spend it reinstalling Windows every 6 months due to the fact its performance degrades exponentially over time without any sort of user intervention, having to religiously update Virus definitions, fret over e-mail attachments, rebuilding the whole system every time a virus takes it down.
Again, it seems you saved a few bucks, but your personal time is absolutely worthless. Sorry to hear that.
Actually, no. I haven't stolen a single piece of software on my computer, and it's still cheaper than those macs.
This may be so, but since there's absolutely no comparison for iLife in the PC world, you still lose out here.
Plus, there's something about being able to upgrade that PC as needed, instead of being locked into Apple's (or Dell's) lame "throw away the whole computer and buy a new one" scheme.
Actually, you CAN upgrade iMacs. Its a long-standing myth that Macs are not upgradable, they have been for quite some time. They use industry standard HDs, RAM, etc. And since Macs traditionally have a much longer usable life, this isn't a valid point either. I bought a blue and white G3 in 1999. It now has a G4, DVD-R, 200GB storage, 1GB RAM, upgraded video card, etc. Not a single piece is stock, and it still fits all my needs. Upgradable and long lasting.
And unlike the Mac, I can actually run games on this machine.
Sigh. Old argument.
Do I need to buy a new OS _minor_ version every year, like you Mac fans seem happy to? Hell, no.
There's nothing minor about the changes between 10, 10.1, 10.2, and 10.3. Its just that they release MAJOR system updates more frequently. And most software that runs on 10.3 will run on 10.2 and 10.1 as well. And 10.1 was a free upgrade from 10.0. Do your homework, you're obviously misinformed.
So putting that all together, it's cost me about 1000$ to swap a new mobo, an A64 3200+ and a Radeon 9800 XT into the existing computer. Even if I'm to add the price of the already bought 16ms LCD monitor (which is light-years ahead of the lame cheap-ass panel in the iMac), I still end up under 1500$
And iMacs start at 1299, cheaper than your 1500 quote, and a consumer doesn't have to waste days putting it all together, installing OSes, downloading drivers, etc. You get the picture. I'm guessing your time isn't worth anything.
So, please... just because you're the non-technical kind who's terminally affraid to install a CPU, doesn't mean everyone else is in the same bracket. You stick to your Macs, I'll stick to my PC.
I build PCs too buddy. Its a pretty much "slot-A into tab-A" affair, and if I were you I wouldn't take so much pride in it - somewhere out there is an 8 year old who could built a PC that's better faster and cheaper. And to clear things up, I've upgraded processors on many Macs as well. If I want a router/firewall, cheap secondary box, project box, I'd use commodity parts and a free OS. But if I'm going to sit in front of a computer that has my whole life on it, and handles all my day to day tasks that make life FUN, not just FUNCTIONAL, its all about the Mac.
This all pretty much adds up to your arguments being hollow and your pride being hurt by the fact that you couldn't possibly have made the wrong computing choice, even though you never bothered to do all the research. Obviously.
This is my favorite quote:
In the other corner a lame iMac which is useless for anything except web browsing
Hahahahahahahahahahaha! Doesn't even merit a response. You've obviously never used one and haven't spent enough time doing anything other than gaming on your PC to realize that for media, internet, networking, printing, PDF workflow, ease-of-use, stability, extensibility, and much much more, the iMac wins hands down.
I mean, how can you sit there and say that a full UNIX based system that allows joe schmoe to use apache, SMB, NFS, AFP, WebDAV, N
I wasn't trying to support the little guy, silly goose. I was pointing out just how farcical this whole process is. I mean with quotes like
I support sterilization Laws to enforce it against - Dopers - Drunks - Retards and Illegal Aliens
and he's on the same page with Dubya, who's only a little bit less of a clown , and it really shows just how pathetic our choices are, how meaningless the position is, and how badly we're all being mislead while someone else is running off with the money.
So get an eMac ... in the same price range, already built, with very nice specs. one for every budget!
Plutonium 1000
- Harddrive Upgrade to 60GB
- Internal Optical Combo CDRW/DVD
- Memory 512MB
- Model 17" LCD
- Processor Upg. to 2.66 Ghz P4m
- Software ProductivityPak,GamePak,SolitaireAce
- Wireless None
$1,938
iMac 17"
512MB DDR333 - 2 DIMMs
80GB Ultra ATA drive
Keyboard/Mac OS X - U.S. English
17-inch flat panel LCD
1.25GHz PowerPC G4
4x SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW)
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
Apple Keyboard
Apple Mouse
Apple Pro Speakers
$1,899.00
iMac is cheaper, has a dedicated graphics card, a professionally supported UNIX OS, a better processor for any sort of media, better built-in software, a 4x DVD-R, and 20GB more HD space, not to mention the better design and compatibility with all sorts of other devices. Plus options for internal bluetooth, etc.
And people say Macs are expensive?
Sure, it seems really cheesy and horrible to be able to "purchase" your candidate online, but at the same time, it give equal screen space to people like Dubya, Sharpton, and... holy cow, who is this?
... by reading. This guy's got MY dollar AND my vote! God bless the democratic process!
Al Hamburg?
Divroced with 9 kids. Self educated
When I really started going nuts and encoding all my CDs in several binge-like sessions, I had my internal DVD-ROM and external CD-RW hooked up. I have the "Import and Eject" feature turned on, and I drop in one CD, wait for iTunes to recognize it, and then drop in the other.
iTunes would encode one, spit it out, and move to the other. Then I'd pop a new disk in the open drive and the process would repeat.
I haven't done this lately as I've imported most of the CDs I really wanted done already, but I don't see any real reason why it wouldn't still work this way.
And it probably would slow the computer down more then 2x because not only is it doing both jobs, but the processes have to keep switching back and forth waiting for processing time, and that swapping will eat up a small but real amount of CPU power. So I don't think you'll get any real advantage to doing them at once - it may be slower than doing them sequentially one at a time.
Hey comic book guy, you have a low self esteem don't you?
If you're referring to my roomates, then yes. But I don't read comics, and my self-esteem is fine. Its the esteem I hold the rest of society in. So, if anything, you could say I'm narcissistic, but if you did, I'd punch you.
What other race are you comparing us to? The ones you see in Star Trek or something?
When did I say I was making comparisons to other races? I'm merely speculating that we should be put back into the evolutionary oven to bake a few more eons before we undertake this mission without fully understanding the implications.
As far as Star Trek goes, well, I don't know what to say there. I try to keep fiction out of my assessments of the real-world problems that I face. I'm not one to draw analogies from a 40 year old sci-fi show.
Surely we are the MOST developed of any creature we know, the most self-sacrficing, and the smartest.
Actually, I'd put dolphins ahead of us here.
You don't see and humans jumping through hoops at sea world for a fish, do you?
Again, the dolphins are in complete control here. Without them, humans wouldn't pay the insane ticket prices that fund the salaries of the fish-feeders, whose jobs are infinitely harder and have less day-to-day rewards than the jobs of, say, the dolphins.
Technological advancement is NOT a sign of intelligence, merely laziness. Most humans can figure out a VCR if you leave them alone with it for a little while. When most humans can BUILD a VCR from scratch, then I'll agree that we're sufficiently advanced enough to go gallavanting around the galaxy.
You, and the responses like yours, are short sighted - you have been blinded by your allegiance to your base protein structures and fail to take into account that fact that in no case is the subject of a study or experiment qualified to judge their own competence in that study or experiment. We should be judged by an independant counsel of extraterrestrial space explorers. So thpth!