Wow, youa re the saddest, sickest person I have ever known.
You don't know me - and if I am the saddest, sickest person you've come into brief, text-only contact with, then you haven't been paying very close attention.
You would rather see a dead rock float through space for all eternity than let humans terraform and bring life to it? You would rather see life itself perish than bring life to the rest of the universe? This is a joke, right?
Yes, Yes, and No.
Try falling in love, you'll change your attitude on Life.
Did that. But to be honest, my personal love of life and its infinite possibilities are far overshadowed by the greed and corruption that drives our society as a whole. And since the whole of human experience adds up to be as important as nada to the nothingth power, I don't really see why you're so rah-rah beating your chest over the notion that it would be a good thing to have humanity overrun the galaxy with wars and pestilence instead of perhaps letting nature and evolution takes it course on other planets, possibly bringing about a race far superior to our own.
When you can tell me beyond a shadow of a doubt that the first step that man takes on a foreign planet will absolutely not crush, decimate, or otherwise hinder an organism or collection of proteins that just may evolve into its own type of sentient being, then we'll talk. Until then, keep your pro-humanity propoganda to yourself. We've done nothing to prove our worthiness in this endeavor.
yes! ship the old and decrepid off to the moon, and when they kick the bucket, just toss 'em off the rock and let 'em drift into black oblivion!
My concern is one day looking up at the moon and seeing the Golden Arches or a Nike swoosh. The commercialization of the moon is something that now seems inevitable, and the earthlings born after the transformation will have no idea why they called it the Sea of Tranquility....
Soon after, all of Earth will be a ghetto, the poorest unluckiest slobs born into a polluted, crumbling culture and dying planet as the rich fucks sail overhead to resort towns built in geodesic domes on planets we can't afford a telescope to see.
it'll avert a class war by separating the classes by so much distance that a revolution would be impossible. How to behead the incumbants when you can't build a ship to get the guillotine to Mars?
The real problem is the fact that we have systematically used up this planet and will do the same to every other planet we inhabit. HUMANS ARE NOT WORTHY TO SPREAD TO OTHER PLANETS. Our race is a violent, underdeveloped, overestimated, neaderthalic bunch of viscious self-centered twits. True, some good has come from humanity, but that good is either only good for US, or good in the sense that it is trying to reverse the horrific effects we've had on the ecosystem thus far.
I don't trust humanity enough to let them loose on the cosmos. It is a recipe for disaster. My only hope is that we are wiped out before we spread out of this solar system, and our genes will be engulfed in a fiery atomic explosion that wipes every trace of our existence FROM existence. Forever.
1. Apple never said that the iLife apps would be free for the duration of YOUR iLife.
2. iMovie 2 was a $20 upgrade from iMovie 1, so the precedent to charge for iLife upgrades has already been set.
3. iDVD has only ever been available as either a pre-installed app or as part or the iLife bundle, it has NEVER been a free download. The fact that the price point for the new iLife is the same but they've added a whole new (and fairly incredible) app called GarageBand goes to show that they are ADDING VALUE, NOT ADDING COST.
4. If you buy a new Mac, its free. And chances are that on the next OS update, these apps will be included. I can't say that for certain, but when you buy Panther, all the then-current iApps are included.
5. $50 for the functionality you're getting is a bargain. I doubt it covers the R&D they put into it, let alone the packaging, distribution, etc.
6. They haven't removed the free ones from the distribution chain. You can still use the current versions for free ad infinitum. No one promised free updates for life.
This reminds me of when they started charging for.Mac. People bitched and complained because it was no longer free, but the cost of the service (a little over $8/mo.) pales in comparison to its benefits and features. For instance, currently.Mac members get a free $80 photo editing program..Mac only costs $99/year. And that isn't the only free software they've given away with.Mac. Plus you still get the email account, the 100MB online server space, the integration w/ iPhoto, Virex, Backup, etc.
Whenever Apple decides to charge for something, trust me, its usually well worth the cost.
I thought I was gonna get a free bag if I picked up his new CD. It would certainly help me sit and listen to the whole thing.
Just kidding, I actually used to be a big Mix A Lot fan, like 12 years ago, and this method seems very fair to both parties. Artist gets paid better than thru the RIAA, and the customer gets to listen before they buy. Perfect!
UNTRUE - GarageBand actually has some of the same functionality built in, in the way that you can manipulate and create music based on loop samples. The interface is somewhat similar, but Soundtrack is a much higher-end piece of audio creation software featuring 4x as many loops, and is mostlly aimed at content creators in general, not just musicians.
GarageBand adds to this mix virtual instrumentation, hardware amp modeling, real-time overdubbing of multiple live tracks, 200 built in audio effects, and much more.
Its more like the sexy 18 yr old daughter of Soundtrack and Logic.
But its plainly obvious you've never used Mac OS X, and don't have any idea what the out-of-the-box experience is with these issues. Sure, after you've locked down your Windows box, downloaded an alternative browser, dowloaded and possibly paid for ad- and pop-up- blockers, closed off all unused network ports, etc., you'll have an OK time w/ the internet.
but Mac OS X allows the user to not have to worry about doing all that and just lets them get to using their computer/the internet, etc.
And BTW, Mac OS X and Windows XP both use 128 bit icons. So they are theoretically the same size. And as far as I know, they are both capable of displaying millions of colors. If you don't like colors and icons, use a command line based OS. Which, when you get right down to it, Mac OS X kicks the living bejeezus outta Windows XP on THAT front too. A fake DOS shell vs. true BSD? Not even a comparison.
I could go on, but its obvious you're very insecure about your computer purchase and need reasons to justify buying an inferior machine.;) j/k... the right tool for the right job, and you sir, are the tool.
I'm not trolling, nor am I evangelizing, but the truth of the matter is, out of the box, Macs are FAR less prone to be susceptible to any of these nefarious internet annoyances.
Spyware: practically non-existant for Macs, and any application needs to be manually copied or installed w/a password verification, so nothing gets by without you knowing it (assuming you trust every user of your computer).
Spam: Mac OS X's built in Mail client has an excellent and easy to use spam filter built in, and in the 2.5 years I've had my.Mac email addy, I haven't had a bit of spam come thru at all.
PopUps - Not only can you block pop ups in the default browser Safari, most of the pop up ads are themed to look like Windows dialog boxes, so they're easy to spot as advertisements and whisk away with a single click.
I've actually been trying to get BeOS Max to run under VPC 6, and its sorta working, but not really.
Basically, I'm able to boot to the floppy image or CD image and start the installation. mouse works. problem is, as soon as the BeOS environment gets any KB input, the input (mouse and KB) both hang complete. Installation will continue, but you can't click or otherwise get thru the installation fully.
So far I haven't been able to get it to install completely (just when its about to finish, my cat leaps on the KB and hangs it). I'm hoping however that when it IS fully installed it'll 'just work' and the KB issue will disappear.
I've tried this on a couple different machines with the same results, so I think it is definitely an issue w/ VPC in conjunction with BeOS Max and not the hardware. My next step is trying an ADB keyboard instead of USB.
When Army of Darkness came out in '93, the Crying Game was opening the same weekend or in any case opened recently beforehand.
Anyway, I had some time to kill, and I knew how the Crying Game turned out, so I stood in front of that theatre while waiting for Army of Darkness to start, shaking people's hands and saying "She's a man."
People just looked at me blankly, but I hope I pissed some people off that day.
They should have been seeing Army of Darkness anyway, so I don't feel bad.
That's like if Bugsy Malone was lobbying for exemption from racketerring and murder laws. Those were necessary parts of his business.
Cool. Maybe I can get an exemption for getting my car inspected, because due to market realities, I don't have the $ to do so, but still need to get to work.
Perhaps slashdot as a whole could lobby for an exemption from grammar and spelling infringments... nah, they don't care about that stuff anyway...
did anyone else notice that they also bumped the RAM up to DDR333 across the line, they're all capable of bluetooth and airport extreme (previous the low end was not) and they updated the graphics cards, opting for a 64MB card in the 20" display? Plus a min. of 80GB of HD space?
And kept the same price point?
And day by day the Mac becomes an even BETTER value for the money...
I have to say, this could be one of the biggest boons for Linux on the desktop yet.
And $50 a seat, including Office-type software? Fugedaboudit. No way in hell MS could EVER match a deal like that.
Once the world's most populous nation starts using Linux as their day to day "this is just the way a computer works" OS will show the rest of the world that yes, Linux on the desktop is a perfectly viable solution, and just because there may be some migration pains in places where MS software has a stranglehold doesn't mean that the migration shouldn't occur.
Every addiction has a painful withdrawl process;) But the user is usually better off kicking the habit! The only problem I could see is a bunch of redneck Americans going around saying that Linux is a Communist operation system.
I find it disturbing and racist that you would make such a statement that separates two groups of people like that.
Irish people are perfectly capable of being paedophiles and I object to your racist and horrific implication that the two cannot coincide, you insensitive clod! ---
Sir, not to disrespect, but I'm sure your wife doesn't know about EVERYTHING that you do on the internet. And if she does, something is either very wrong, or very right.
See, it all boils down to the fact that the internet is just like any other information medium, be it the library, the video shop w/ an "adult" section in back, or Pigsty, the dirty little kid who hangs out on the playground singing "milk milk lemonade..." That is to say, you'll never be able to keep it in check. It is outside of your sphere of influence.
What can you do? Prepare your kids for what they may run into. Give them feedback and guidance on how to deal with certain situations. Tell them what is appropriate and what is not. After that, its all up to them. As it should be. Humans need practice making decisions for themselves and not having everything honed down, toned down, and spoon fed to them. To do so is a disservice to both the human spirit, and your children's ability to function and think on a level that you may not be comfortable with.
The fact is, you can't protect them. You can only help guide and instruct them.
And if its really such a big deal, take the computer away and be a mean parent. They'll forgive you eventually, and its probably for the best anyway. Its not like its the end of the world, and there's no need for you to cave just cuz Johnny S and Susie Q have computers in their rooms.
Anyway, its all about the trust, man. Trust that your kids know what they're doing and if it gets out of hand, offer help and advice instead of anger and retribution. We get enough of that from The Christain God.
Sure there is. McDonald's food loosens my stool to the point that I have to put a cork up my ass to stem the rising tide of fetid, yellow-green stinkwater.
I don't want to start a holy war here, but what is the deal with you PC fanatics? I have recently upgraded from a Dell Dimension desktop running at 500 MHz to a new P4 3.3 GHz running WinXP and Red Hat to help me at my freelance gig where I copy a 17 MB stick of butter from one folder on the hard drive to another folder, over and over, all day long, day in and day out, for no reason whatsoever. On the P4 I spent about 6 millennia trying to install Leisure Suit Larry 3. 6 millennia. At home, on my Vic-20 running on a gigantic steam-based generator, which by all standards should be a lot slower than this P4, the same operation would take about 2 nanoseconds. If that.
In addition, during this butter transfer, my PocketPC will not work. KaZaa has ground to a halt. Even Explorer is straining to keep up as I type this. Beyond that, I've been left impotent, crying on the floor as passersby on the street below point, laugh, and deride my choice of computing platform.
I won't bore you with the laundry list of other problems that I've encountered while working on various PCs, but suffice it to say there have been many, not the least of which is I've never seen a PC that has run faster than a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, despite the P4's higher protein content. My TI-80 with 8kb of RAM running a poorly coded, bug-ridden, home-brewed OS that has a broken leg and no input method runs faster than this P4 machine at times. From a productivity standpoint, I don't get how people can claim that WinTel is a superior platform.
PC weenies, flame me if you'd like, but I'd rather hear some intelligent reasons why anyone would choose to use a PC over scribbling with invisible ink on homemade parchment.
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Wow, youa re the saddest, sickest person I have ever known.
You don't know me - and if I am the saddest, sickest person you've come into brief, text-only contact with, then you haven't been paying very close attention.
You would rather see a dead rock float through space for all eternity than let humans terraform and bring life to it? You would rather see life itself perish than bring life to the rest of the universe? This is a joke, right?
Yes, Yes, and No.
Try falling in love, you'll change your attitude on Life.
Did that. But to be honest, my personal love of life and its infinite possibilities are far overshadowed by the greed and corruption that drives our society as a whole. And since the whole of human experience adds up to be as important as nada to the nothingth power, I don't really see why you're so rah-rah beating your chest over the notion that it would be a good thing to have humanity overrun the galaxy with wars and pestilence instead of perhaps letting nature and evolution takes it course on other planets, possibly bringing about a race far superior to our own.
When you can tell me beyond a shadow of a doubt that the first step that man takes on a foreign planet will absolutely not crush, decimate, or otherwise hinder an organism or collection of proteins that just may evolve into its own type of sentient being, then we'll talk. Until then, keep your pro-humanity propoganda to yourself. We've done nothing to prove our worthiness in this endeavor.
yes! ship the old and decrepid off to the moon, and when they kick the bucket, just toss 'em off the rock and let 'em drift into black oblivion!
....
My concern is one day looking up at the moon and seeing the Golden Arches or a Nike swoosh. The commercialization of the moon is something that now seems inevitable, and the earthlings born after the transformation will have no idea why they called it the Sea of Tranquility
Soon after, all of Earth will be a ghetto, the poorest unluckiest slobs born into a polluted, crumbling culture and dying planet as the rich fucks sail overhead to resort towns built in geodesic domes on planets we can't afford a telescope to see.
it'll avert a class war by separating the classes by so much distance that a revolution would be impossible. How to behead the incumbants when you can't build a ship to get the guillotine to Mars?
The real problem is the fact that we have systematically used up this planet and will do the same to every other planet we inhabit. HUMANS ARE NOT WORTHY TO SPREAD TO OTHER PLANETS. Our race is a violent, underdeveloped, overestimated, neaderthalic bunch of viscious self-centered twits. True, some good has come from humanity, but that good is either only good for US, or good in the sense that it is trying to reverse the horrific effects we've had on the ecosystem thus far.
I don't trust humanity enough to let them loose on the cosmos. It is a recipe for disaster. My only hope is that we are wiped out before we spread out of this solar system, and our genes will be engulfed in a fiery atomic explosion that wipes every trace of our existence FROM existence. Forever.
1. Apple never said that the iLife apps would be free for the duration of YOUR iLife.
.Mac. People bitched and complained because it was no longer free, but the cost of the service (a little over $8/mo.) pales in comparison to its benefits and features. For instance, currently .Mac members get a free $80 photo editing program. .Mac only costs $99/year. And that isn't the only free software they've given away with .Mac. Plus you still get the email account, the 100MB online server space, the integration w/ iPhoto, Virex, Backup, etc.
2. iMovie 2 was a $20 upgrade from iMovie 1, so the precedent to charge for iLife upgrades has already been set.
3. iDVD has only ever been available as either a pre-installed app or as part or the iLife bundle, it has NEVER been a free download. The fact that the price point for the new iLife is the same but they've added a whole new (and fairly incredible) app called GarageBand goes to show that they are ADDING VALUE, NOT ADDING COST.
4. If you buy a new Mac, its free. And chances are that on the next OS update, these apps will be included. I can't say that for certain, but when you buy Panther, all the then-current iApps are included.
5. $50 for the functionality you're getting is a bargain. I doubt it covers the R&D they put into it, let alone the packaging, distribution, etc.
6. They haven't removed the free ones from the distribution chain. You can still use the current versions for free ad infinitum. No one promised free updates for life.
This reminds me of when they started charging for
Whenever Apple decides to charge for something, trust me, its usually well worth the cost.
To the LEFT HAND SIDE, man!!!!!
Now pass that shit, you're camping!
I thought I was gonna get a free bag if I picked up his new CD. It would certainly help me sit and listen to the whole thing.
Just kidding, I actually used to be a big Mix A Lot fan, like 12 years ago, and this method seems very fair to both parties. Artist gets paid better than thru the RIAA, and the customer gets to listen before they buy. Perfect!
There lots of cookie remover SW for the mac, actually - and most of the browsers have this functionality built in anyway.
mac washer x is a good example.
UNTRUE - GarageBand actually has some of the same functionality built in, in the way that you can manipulate and create music based on loop samples. The interface is somewhat similar, but Soundtrack is a much higher-end piece of audio creation software featuring 4x as many loops, and is mostlly aimed at content creators in general, not just musicians.
GarageBand adds to this mix virtual instrumentation, hardware amp modeling, real-time overdubbing of multiple live tracks, 200 built in audio effects, and much more.
Its more like the sexy 18 yr old daughter of Soundtrack and Logic.
Good for you. I'm glad you can use a computer.
;) j/k ... the right tool for the right job, and you sir, are the tool.
But its plainly obvious you've never used Mac OS X, and don't have any idea what the out-of-the-box experience is with these issues. Sure, after you've locked down your Windows box, downloaded an alternative browser, dowloaded and possibly paid for ad- and pop-up- blockers, closed off all unused network ports, etc., you'll have an OK time w/ the internet.
but Mac OS X allows the user to not have to worry about doing all that and just lets them get to using their computer/the internet, etc.
And BTW, Mac OS X and Windows XP both use 128 bit icons. So they are theoretically the same size. And as far as I know, they are both capable of displaying millions of colors. If you don't like colors and icons, use a command line based OS. Which, when you get right down to it, Mac OS X kicks the living bejeezus outta Windows XP on THAT front too. A fake DOS shell vs. true BSD? Not even a comparison.
I could go on, but its obvious you're very insecure about your computer purchase and need reasons to justify buying an inferior machine.
Most of the peripherals you'd use on a Mac are the same peripherals you'd use on a PC. How are the peripherals overpriced?
Buy a Mac.
.Mac email addy, I haven't had a bit of spam come thru at all.
I'm not trolling, nor am I evangelizing, but the truth of the matter is, out of the box, Macs are FAR less prone to be susceptible to any of these nefarious internet annoyances.
Spyware: practically non-existant for Macs, and any application needs to be manually copied or installed w/a password verification, so nothing gets by without you knowing it (assuming you trust every user of your computer).
Spam: Mac OS X's built in Mail client has an excellent and easy to use spam filter built in, and in the 2.5 years I've had my
PopUps - Not only can you block pop ups in the default browser Safari, most of the pop up ads are themed to look like Windows dialog boxes, so they're easy to spot as advertisements and whisk away with a single click.
Just my 2
So I guess this means that an ADB keyboard wouldn't help because it would be remapped as USB in VPC? Damn, I was really hopin' to get this going.
....
Perhaps BeOS Max 5.1 will fix it
Trust me, I would if I had ANY idea what OS would run on such a cute and cuddly carbon based life form.
I've actually been trying to get BeOS Max to run under VPC 6, and its sorta working, but not really.
Basically, I'm able to boot to the floppy image or CD image and start the installation. mouse works. problem is, as soon as the BeOS environment gets any KB input, the input (mouse and KB) both hang complete. Installation will continue, but you can't click or otherwise get thru the installation fully.
So far I haven't been able to get it to install completely (just when its about to finish, my cat leaps on the KB and hangs it). I'm hoping however that when it IS fully installed it'll 'just work' and the KB issue will disappear.
I've tried this on a couple different machines with the same results, so I think it is definitely an issue w/ VPC in conjunction with BeOS Max and not the hardware. My next step is trying an ADB keyboard instead of USB.
Anyone else gotten this to work?
When Army of Darkness came out in '93, the Crying Game was opening the same weekend or in any case opened recently beforehand.
Anyway, I had some time to kill, and I knew how the Crying Game turned out, so I stood in front of that theatre while waiting for Army of Darkness to start, shaking people's hands and saying "She's a man."
People just looked at me blankly, but I hope I pissed some people off that day.
They should have been seeing Army of Darkness anyway, so I don't feel bad.
That's like if Bugsy Malone was lobbying for exemption from racketerring and murder laws. Those were necessary parts of his business.
... nah, they don't care about that stuff anyway ...
Cool. Maybe I can get an exemption for getting my car inspected, because due to market realities, I don't have the $ to do so, but still need to get to work.
Perhaps slashdot as a whole could lobby for an exemption from grammar and spelling infringments
did anyone else notice that they also bumped the RAM up to DDR333 across the line, they're all capable of bluetooth and airport extreme (previous the low end was not) and they updated the graphics cards, opting for a 64MB card in the 20" display? Plus a min. of 80GB of HD space?
...
And kept the same price point?
And day by day the Mac becomes an even BETTER value for the money
I have to say, this could be one of the biggest boons for Linux on the desktop yet.
;) But the user is usually better off kicking the habit! The only problem I could see is a bunch of redneck Americans going around saying that Linux is a Communist operation system.
;)
And $50 a seat, including Office-type software? Fugedaboudit. No way in hell MS could EVER match a deal like that.
Once the world's most populous nation starts using Linux as their day to day "this is just the way a computer works" OS will show the rest of the world that yes, Linux on the desktop is a perfectly viable solution, and just because there may be some migration pains in places where MS software has a stranglehold doesn't mean that the migration shouldn't occur.
Every addiction has a painful withdrawl process
oh, wait, they already do that.
I find it disturbing and racist that you would make such a statement that separates two groups of people like that.
Irish people are perfectly capable of being paedophiles and I object to your racist and horrific implication that the two cannot coincide, you insensitive clod!
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Sir, not to disrespect, but I'm sure your wife doesn't know about EVERYTHING that you do on the internet. And if she does, something is either very wrong, or very right.
See, it all boils down to the fact that the internet is just like any other information medium, be it the library, the video shop w/ an "adult" section in back, or Pigsty, the dirty little kid who hangs out on the playground singing "milk milk lemonade..." That is to say, you'll never be able to keep it in check. It is outside of your sphere of influence.
What can you do? Prepare your kids for what they may run into. Give them feedback and guidance on how to deal with certain situations. Tell them what is appropriate and what is not. After that, its all up to them. As it should be. Humans need practice making decisions for themselves and not having everything honed down, toned down, and spoon fed to them. To do so is a disservice to both the human spirit, and your children's ability to function and think on a level that you may not be comfortable with.
The fact is, you can't protect them. You can only help guide and instruct them.
And if its really such a big deal, take the computer away and be a mean parent. They'll forgive you eventually, and its probably for the best anyway. Its not like its the end of the world, and there's no need for you to cave just cuz Johnny S and Susie Q have computers in their rooms.
Anyway, its all about the trust, man. Trust that your kids know what they're doing and if it gets out of hand, offer help and advice instead of anger and retribution. We get enough of that from The Christain God.
---
oh wait, I use Safari ...
Sure there is. McDonald's food loosens my stool to the point that I have to put a cork up my ass to stem the rising tide of fetid, yellow-green stinkwater.
Not to be graphic or anything.
that may be true, but the younger slashdotters will tell you that CDs are better for cutting coke on.
"Technically sir, tomatoes are fags."
"He means fruits!"
"Yes, fruits!"
I don't want to start a holy war here, but what is the deal with you PC fanatics? I have recently upgraded from a Dell Dimension desktop running at 500 MHz to a new P4 3.3 GHz running WinXP and Red Hat to help me at my freelance gig where I copy a 17 MB stick of butter
from one folder on the hard drive to another folder, over and over, all day long, day in and day out, for no reason whatsoever. On the P4 I spent about 6 millennia trying to install Leisure Suit Larry 3. 6 millennia. At home, on my Vic-20 running on a gigantic steam-based generator, which by all standards should be a lot slower than this P4, the same operation would take about 2 nanoseconds. If that.
In addition, during this butter transfer, my PocketPC will not work. KaZaa has ground to a halt. Even Explorer is straining to keep up as I type this. Beyond that, I've been left impotent, crying on the floor as passersby on the street below point, laugh, and deride my choice of computing platform.
I won't bore you with the laundry list of other problems that I've encountered while working on various PCs, but suffice it to say there have been many, not the least of which is I've never seen a PC that has run faster than a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, despite the P4's higher protein content. My TI-80 with 8kb of RAM running a poorly coded, bug-ridden, home-brewed OS that has a broken leg and no input method runs faster than this P4 machine at times. From a productivity standpoint, I don't get how people can claim that WinTel is a superior platform.
PC weenies, flame me if you'd like, but I'd rather hear some intelligent reasons why anyone would choose to use a PC over scribbling with invisible ink on homemade parchment.
So they added a little bit of wine into the cheap ass beer for flavor. It was needed.