MeeGo was another WebOS: late, buggy, and basically going nowhere with the organization they had and the cannon ball of Intel shackled to their leg.
Nokia would have made a glorious last stand with it, open source geeks would support them (never mind an occasional grumble about the bugs, wanton platform changes, and closed components, what's this between friends), but in the end it wouldn't bring bread to the table without substantial cultural changes and a lot of development. Yes, I'm familiar with The Legend of Spectacular N9 Sales.
That's funny, but PGP was designed with the assumption that communications and email storage can easily be snooped on. It's an end-to-end scheme, and so is S/MIME. The security of both is as good as the encryption algorithm and your and your peers' procedures for key management and exchange.
If a government (to me, the U.S. government agencies are agents of a foreign state) wants the contents, they need to go after you, rather than installing blanket wiretaps at your service providers and silencing their staff with a secret gag order.
They apparently delivered at least one of them to Russia free of charge already. Some years ago, there was a purportedly documental story on Russian TV where an employee of the British embassy was shown using a "spy rock" clandestinely in Moscow. The veracity of that was widely dismissed because of the ridiculousness of the idea. Some of these spy operations sound like gratuitous toying with cloak-and-dagger stuff.
Pah, expiration date. I check the roasting date of the beans I buy (got a grinder at home); usually the microroastery sells something they roasted in the last two weeks, and that's how it should be.
Search for "Samsung" and you'd be surprised by the spate of negative stories featuring Samsung recently. You'd think somebody is on a campaign to tarnish them... but then, why do they keep getting exposed cheating on benchmarks, funding astroturfers, and screwing workers over in poorer countries.
1. Yes, if you buy crap just b/c it's cheap, you're a "schmuck".
I buy products that do what I need, and I don't want to pay more just because the manufacturer thinks the customer buying cheap products don't deserve quality.
2. There's not that many brands that make hardware with no defects. Especially if it's something new.
The topic of this discussion is software. There are some brands that ship software which does not act like it's been coded by a bunch of nincompoops and barely made to pass a fairly superficial set of checks. I've learned from experience that Samsung is not one of these brands, so it is excluded from my purchase decisions.
So what you're saying is, if you buy the "right" Samsung device, it'll be OK, but if you are some poor schmuck who bought a random cheap Samsung because it fit the price point (like I did with my digital TV that crashes if I switch the UI language), it's your own fault if it will turn out buggy and unsupported? I say fuck that. How about choosing a manufacturer who serves all its customers well.
As this article demonstrates, you can get buggy vulnerable crap even if you buy their expensive Smart TVs.
The software must be reworked as well to match this grade of parallelism. As things stand, this is not happening even to the degree that would load 4 cores for any tasks except the "embarrassingly parallel" ones, like image processing.
Some reviews report that the Nokia Lumia 1020 strains to process frames from its monster 41 Mpix sensor, because they didn't go for a dedicated image processor like they did with the Nokia 808. So when Windows Phone finally gets support for SoCs with more than two cores, this is where it will help. But yes, this is the only case I can think of where more than two cores are needed on a phone.
I wonder how much this flagship fetish is an effect of Samsung and other similar manufacturers, who may give a shit about fixing bugs in premium products, but anywhere else the software is utter garbage. I do have an okay working Samsung Blu-Ray drive, but I figure it's only because it's made by a JV with Toshiba.
I think the right answer is, refuse to sponsor shoddy production practices and pick a manufacturer that does its job diligently across the whole product range. If Nokia can make great $30 phones, why Samsung should be excused?
When Nokia's optical image stabilization demo video was found to be staged with a pro camera, it was the doing of an ad agency. Didn't matter a bit.
Ironically, the real thing turned out to be nearly as good. Now selling at an AT&T store near you in the Nokia Lumia 1020. OK, OK, the last bit does not look organic at all.
That's more than a year old, and the calibration issue was fixed long ago.
Recalls (e.g. T-mobile)
Source?
Now to be honest, these kinds of problems and complaints are pretty standard levels for second rank manufacturers. You need the high volume of Samsung or Apple to be able to get the manufacturing fully tuned.
Oh yeah, such things neverhappen with Samsung. "If you don't know about them then it's for you to Google", good advice, you should use it too.
In the old days, Nokia could use their own factories to build and optimize quality.
Those old days were a long way ago... Please, it's the company that gave me an N81 with brittle nonsensical buttons at the top and fastened the USB/power port to the N900's system board with a bit of dried out snot. The quality of Lumias feels like a huge improvement.
but the rest mostly gave up their factories in the last few years and the change seems to have been one of the reasons for all problems that showed up in the Nokia Lumia phones after they closed their factories in Finland.
What problems? Are you aware that Nokia's been producing most of their phones outside Finland long before Lumia was a thing?
Microsoft themselves have admitted to Windows phone being 18 months behind, especially in apps. This was even covered earlier on Slashdot.
Slashdot have been reposting a lot of FUD lately. Link?
Go and look at reviews of Windows which cover the apps market; developers are simply not fixing or updating the Windows versions because there aren't enough customers to justify it. This leaves old buggy software where iOS and Android have the latest and best.
Can we move on to specifics already without referring to some nebulous reviews? None of the applications I use are old or buggy. Perhaps some people have their first world problems due to not getting the fad of the month app, but I'm not one of them, so you gotta tell me.
Yes, Helsingin Sanomat had a transcript, which clearly showed that Tomi, erm, misunderstood things in a little too imaginative way. As he so often does.
"well look, the way he calculated the N9 numbers is wrong" coming from people who actually had the numbers
Paranoid much? What tells you that the people debunking him on the internet have the inside data? From what I know, not many people in Nokia have access to the sales figures.
After that, anyone who wants to claim Tommi is a liar needs to not only point to an untrue statement but to show hard evidence that he made it deliberately and that he knew 100% that it was untrue at the time he said it.
Right, there's always the possibility that he's just a fool who passes his imagination for the real thing.
I understand that you have publicly put too much of your credibility into Tomi to admit you've been fooled (that is, I'm not assuming you are just a Microsoft hater using whatever scraps of baloney you can find on the internet), but man, grow some capacity for critical thinking.
If there wasn't much truth in what Tommi said, then the PR people would just ignore him.
That's right, and I think they still do. If you refer to Dominies Communicate, its author has a disclaimer.
I'm pretty sure we have discussed before and you are a legitimate and open Nokia employee.
I don't remember that we did. Moreover, I'm not. Furthermore, my livelihood was impacted when Nokia axed MeeGo, so I had an opportunity to become bitter about that. But I could see why they had to do that.
So: 1) large, non-pocketable, cameras; 2) smartphones that the review you link to did not actually decide is better than an earlier Lumia model with a less capable camera. You are trying so hard it hurts. Surely you forgot the Galaxy "S4" Zoom?;-)
Nokia traditionally lead in phone cameras and when the original Pureview 808 came out it looked pretty neat.
Now you've gone and destroyed the last shreds of credibility by linking to the blog of an exposed liar.
Aiming to sucker in camera users who they hope won't check app availability let alone how up to date the apps in the app store are is one of their better chances.
What's wrong with the apps? OK, Instagram has decided to play nasty. Is anything of value lost?
It's been beated to death already. Thankfully somebody put up a collection of refutals so that we don't have to go through this over and over again.
You are the CEO of a large, profitable and industry-dominating multinational company
.... that has been hemorrhaging its customer base badly for the last several years, to the point of becoming an underdog real soon. As people in certain hockey-crazy nations say, you skate to where the puck will be when you get there, not where it currently is.
that built its success on a strategy of massive product differentiation and close relationships with its distribution channels.
Duh, you maintain that with a software platform that can hold its own in 2010s? Nokia falling out with its distribution channels is pretty much a myth, and if the Lumia 1020 is not massive product differentiation, I don't know what is.
Slashdot Mirror
A good one-liner. Now honestly, have you ever tried to build and run that on a hardware of your choice?
MeeGo was another WebOS: late, buggy, and basically going nowhere with the organization they had and the cannon ball of Intel shackled to their leg.
Nokia would have made a glorious last stand with it, open source geeks would support them (never mind an occasional grumble about the bugs, wanton platform changes, and closed components, what's this between friends), but in the end it wouldn't bring bread to the table without substantial cultural changes and a lot of development. Yes, I'm familiar with The Legend of Spectacular N9 Sales.
Yeah, the conspiracy theory is now cemented. Impossible to prove or disprove, and just too likable to not believe.
It's not even proper engineer's mindset. An engineer speaks from field experience, or at least knowledge verified by past experimentation.
This is just some armchair know-it-all, like a lot of people commenting on Slashdot. A software engineer, more likely.
That's funny, but PGP was designed with the assumption that communications and email storage can easily be snooped on. It's an end-to-end scheme, and so is S/MIME. The security of both is as good as the encryption algorithm and your and your peers' procedures for key management and exchange.
If a government (to me, the U.S. government agencies are agents of a foreign state) wants the contents, they need to go after you, rather than installing blanket wiretaps at your service providers and silencing their staff with a secret gag order.
They apparently delivered at least one of them to Russia free of charge already. Some years ago, there was a purportedly documental story on Russian TV where an employee of the British embassy was shown using a "spy rock" clandestinely in Moscow. The veracity of that was widely dismissed because of the ridiculousness of the idea. Some of these spy operations sound like gratuitous toying with cloak-and-dagger stuff.
Then those 94% should have a word with the Muslim terrorists.
I'm a white guy. Should I "have a word" with the white supremacists, even though I have nothing in common with them except the skin color?
Pah, expiration date. I check the roasting date of the beans I buy (got a grinder at home); usually the microroastery sells something they roasted in the last two weeks, and that's how it should be.
Search for "Samsung" and you'd be surprised by the spate of negative stories featuring Samsung recently. You'd think somebody is on a campaign to tarnish them... but then, why do they keep getting exposed cheating on benchmarks, funding astroturfers, and screwing workers over in poorer countries.
That leaves geeks as suppliers, and as you said: a % of geeks care about open source.
Do you have any evidence to confirm that open source geeks write any significant share of applications on the Play Store?
1. Yes, if you buy crap just b/c it's cheap, you're a "schmuck".
I buy products that do what I need, and I don't want to pay more just because the manufacturer thinks the customer buying cheap products don't deserve quality.
2. There's not that many brands that make hardware with no defects. Especially if it's something new.
The topic of this discussion is software. There are some brands that ship software which does not act like it's been coded by a bunch of nincompoops and barely made to pass a fairly superficial set of checks. I've learned from experience that Samsung is not one of these brands, so it is excluded from my purchase decisions.
So what you're saying is, if you buy the "right" Samsung device, it'll be OK, but if you are some poor schmuck who bought a random cheap Samsung because it fit the price point (like I did with my digital TV that crashes if I switch the UI language), it's your own fault if it will turn out buggy and unsupported? I say fuck that. How about choosing a manufacturer who serves all its customers well.
As this article demonstrates, you can get buggy vulnerable crap even if you buy their expensive Smart TVs.
The software must be reworked as well to match this grade of parallelism. As things stand, this is not happening even to the degree that would load 4 cores for any tasks except the "embarrassingly parallel" ones, like image processing.
Some reviews report that the Nokia Lumia 1020 strains to process frames from its monster 41 Mpix sensor, because they didn't go for a dedicated image processor like they did with the Nokia 808. So when Windows Phone finally gets support for SoCs with more than two cores, this is where it will help. But yes, this is the only case I can think of where more than two cores are needed on a phone.
I wonder how much this flagship fetish is an effect of Samsung and other similar manufacturers, who may give a shit about fixing bugs in premium products, but anywhere else the software is utter garbage. I do have an okay working Samsung Blu-Ray drive, but I figure it's only because it's made by a JV with Toshiba.
I think the right answer is, refuse to sponsor shoddy production practices and pick a manufacturer that does its job diligently across the whole product range. If Nokia can make great $30 phones, why Samsung should be excused?
When Nokia's optical image stabilization demo video was found to be staged with a pro camera, it was the doing of an ad agency. Didn't matter a bit.
Ironically, the real thing turned out to be nearly as good. Now selling at an AT&T store near you in the Nokia Lumia 1020. OK, OK, the last bit does not look organic at all.
Just some from the first Nokia quality information out of Google.
That's more than a year old, and the calibration issue was fixed long ago.
Recalls (e.g. T-mobile)
Source?
Now to be honest, these kinds of problems and complaints are pretty standard levels for second rank manufacturers. You need the high volume of Samsung or Apple to be able to get the manufacturing fully tuned.
Oh yeah, such things never happen with Samsung. "If you don't know about them then it's for you to Google", good advice, you should use it too.
In the old days, Nokia could use their own factories to build and optimize quality.
Those old days were a long way ago... Please, it's the company that gave me an N81 with brittle nonsensical buttons at the top and fastened the USB/power port to the N900's system board with a bit of dried out snot. The quality of Lumias feels like a huge improvement.
but the rest mostly gave up their factories in the last few years and the change seems to have been one of the reasons for all problems that showed up in the Nokia Lumia phones after they closed their factories in Finland.
What problems?
Are you aware that Nokia's been producing most of their phones outside Finland long before Lumia was a thing?
Microsoft themselves have admitted to Windows phone being 18 months behind, especially in apps. This was even covered earlier on Slashdot.
Slashdot have been reposting a lot of FUD lately. Link?
Go and look at reviews of Windows which cover the apps market; developers are simply not fixing or updating the Windows versions because there aren't enough customers to justify it. This leaves old buggy software where iOS and Android have the latest and best.
Can we move on to specifics already without referring to some nebulous reviews? None of the applications I use are old or buggy. Perhaps some people have their first world problems due to not getting the fad of the month app, but I'm not one of them, so you gotta tell me.
Yes, Helsingin Sanomat had a transcript, which clearly showed that Tomi, erm, misunderstood things in a little too imaginative way. As he so often does.
"well look, the way he calculated the N9 numbers is wrong" coming from people who actually had the numbers
Paranoid much? What tells you that the people debunking him on the internet have the inside data? From what I know, not many people in Nokia have access to the sales figures.
After that, anyone who wants to claim Tommi is a liar needs to not only point to an untrue statement but to show hard evidence that he made it deliberately and that he knew 100% that it was untrue at the time he said it.
Right, there's always the possibility that he's just a fool who passes his imagination for the real thing.
I understand that you have publicly put too much of your credibility into Tomi to admit you've been fooled (that is, I'm not assuming you are just a Microsoft hater using whatever scraps of baloney you can find on the internet), but man, grow some capacity for critical thinking.
If there wasn't much truth in what Tommi said, then the PR people would just ignore him.
That's right, and I think they still do. If you refer to Dominies Communicate, its author has a disclaimer.
I'm pretty sure we have discussed before and you are a legitimate and open Nokia employee.
I don't remember that we did. Moreover, I'm not. Furthermore, my livelihood was impacted when Nokia axed MeeGo, so I had an opportunity to become bitter about that. But I could see why they had to do that.
They say size does not matter...
Samsung has been showing serious cameras that have phone functions, standard phones which have been outclassing Nokia in general reviews and real optical zoom cameras with most smartphone features.
So: 1) large, non-pocketable, cameras; 2) smartphones that the review you link to did not actually decide is better than an earlier Lumia model with a less capable camera. You are trying so hard it hurts. Surely you forgot the Galaxy "S4" Zoom? ;-)
Nokia traditionally lead in phone cameras and when the original Pureview 808 came out it looked pretty neat.
Right. And Lumia 1020 has improved on that.
Now Nokia which has contracts that leave it trapped with windows they are desperate to get some of the 808's shine back. They know that users who already used a Windows phone won't do it again
Now you've gone and destroyed the last shreds of credibility by linking to the blog of an exposed liar.
Aiming to sucker in camera users who they hope won't check app availability let alone how up to date the apps in the app store are is one of their better chances.
What's wrong with the apps? OK, Instagram has decided to play nasty. Is anything of value lost?
An oldie, yet very apropos, from Artemy Lebedev of the OLED keyboard fame.
It's been beated to death already. Thankfully somebody put up a collection of refutals so that we don't have to go through this over and over again.
You are the CEO of a large, profitable and industry-dominating multinational company
.... that has been hemorrhaging its customer base badly for the last several years, to the point of becoming an underdog real soon. As people in certain hockey-crazy nations say, you skate to where the puck will be when you get there, not where it currently is.
that built its success on a strategy of massive product differentiation and close relationships with its distribution channels.
Duh, you maintain that with a software platform that can hold its own in 2010s? Nokia falling out with its distribution channels is pretty much a myth, and if the Lumia 1020 is not massive product differentiation, I don't know what is.
Please explain how Qualcomm is a winner over Nokia.