>And since google doesn't want non-US-persons to invest in them
Considering that the stock is/will be overpriced, you get no voting rights and the company has done some pretty serious mistakes in this IPO, perhaps Google is doing you a favour.
How do you want the Linux community to be percieved? As a "name-calling four year old child" or a mature professional community producing good software quietly and consistantly becoming better and better?
From the article; The finding of a single collision in SHA-1 would not, by itself, cause much trouble, since one arbitrary collision won't do an attacker much good in practice. But history tells us that such discoveries are usually followed by a series of bigger discoveries that widen the breach, to the point that the broken primitive becomes unusable. A collision in SHA-1 would cast doubt over the future viability of any system that relies on SHA-1; and as I've explained, that's a lot of systems. If SHA-1 is completely broken, the result would be significant confusion, reengineering of many systems, and incompatibility between new (patched) systems and old.
>Because obviously Red Hat can't make tons of money off the free software if it isn't good enough for their customers.
But RedHat can just pick and choose which software it decides to go in and "Walmartize".
RedHat saw that Linux + Gnome/KDE and whatever were good enough first and then decided to support it. I very much doubt that they would just be willing to support just any OpenSource product.
>Thus it is in their best interest to fund development, in particular by funding development in a direction that benefits their customers, and thus they hire programmers to do this development.
Or they can wait until the Linux community improves it on their own. If they never get to as good as Z-series customers expect, then they could either say "Its not our product, how about ours that does perform well" or "We will support it but at a lower cost but don't expect it to run as well." Nothing is forcing IBM to improve Linux on hardware X.
> I propose that that is also the answer to whether or not high quality free software harms the world's economy.
The parallel software question would be;
- does the availability of high quality, low cost software (Linux, Apache) help or hinder computer functionality (or computer usablility or computer adoptability or coding quality)?
Economics has nothing to do with appreciation or quality of work. I'm not sure how you made that jump.
Composers and artists do generally want to get paid for their performances. Thats why you pay to go into concerts, why they sell paintings in art galleries, why CDs are sold in stores.
>Do we hear modern composers whingeing about the availability of high quality public domain music works, or today's authors complaining about how they can't compete with Shakey?
No because their customers can and do pay for both old and new artists. The two artists really are delivering different products.
How many database engines or word processors does a company/customer need?
>So, if Walmart saves 10 million by not buying Microsoft licenses and switching to Linux and invests it in its own company, it will likely create 55 jobs.
How much money a company saves does not relate directly into more jobs.
Say Walmart does save $10million.
They could open a new store (creating new jobs) or They could reduce how much they charge for a bottle of shampoo. (no new jobs) or They could increase their dividend/buyback (no new jobs) or They could give a bonus to certain employees (no new jobs)
>It's a nice idea and it should be done, but he's not the one that's going to do it.
Yes, its all so clear.
Attention all good natured people. Please stop what you are doing. You will become utter and complete failures unless you are a Certified Professional Engineer. Forget about your hard work, lobbying and dedicating your life to helping others. Your lack the skills and specialized university-level degree to help others in any sort of worthwhile way.
Please, just give up. You are just embarssing the rest of us.
>Maybe her suggestion to eat out these corporations from the inside could prove to light a fire under their asses
I think her point is that there is no point in trying to achive "corporate success". The system is built against trying to stand out and succeed.
From the article; "Can we work in a corporation and contest the system," she asks, "or must we be blind and docile and adhere to everything that the corporation says?""
I don't agree with her point or method of contesting the system. Her later point is something I think everyone should think about.
I think there is some humour in your post, but its been modded insightful.
Maybe if the original poster had reworded his post into;
"Coffee is popular because we need to extend our natural biological cycles into an unnatural 8+ work day. Look at the cycles of other animals as an example."
But if you are commenting that the mods are on crack, I wholely agree with you.
And therefore you have something better to do with your time. Having more competition isn't going to change this fact. (Ok, maybe if you are really weak-willed)
>I do like movies at times.
But do you like bad movies. Suppose all the movies you saw were bad for the next 10 years. Would you still like movies and spend your free time and money on them?
>Competition in MOVIES not in other media formats.
I think the AC was addressing; >Bad movies are put out because people still go and watch them either in the theatre or later on DVD.
The competition is in how you spend your time and money.
You don't go to the opera or the latest polka festival (if you do, lets assume you don't). Its not becuase there is a lack of competition in those areas but its because you have better things to do with your time.
>We all know gnu/linux is still a niche phenomenon on Desktops
"We all"? Could you please bring up this fact during the next "Linux is/isn't ready for the desktop" flamewar that come up.
>1% of all people accessing Google is _millions_ of people.
No, its 1% of all queries. And that might be overweighted since alot of IE people will still use MSN by default.
>And since google doesn't want non-US-persons to invest in them
Considering that the stock is/will be overpriced, you get no voting rights and the company has done some pretty serious mistakes in this IPO, perhaps Google is doing you a favour.
I am using my Apple Mac to transfer songs to my Apple iPod just like I did with my Apple iTunes.
People will blame Apple.
Thats "internet heading to light speed".
Remember, there is no reason or importance in the words "internet", "light speed" and "heading".
>I wrote a perl script to this but it's so easy to do that I won't bother to provide it :)
Could you just scribble it in the margins of this page? Thanks, that would save alot of us about 300 years worth of pain.
Up Top Up I say!
Please Mod Up Top!
Up Up The Post Should Go.
Mister Mod, Please sir
Mod this rip off of Seuss UP TOP!
This is something a 4 year old child would say.
"Wahhhh, Bobby hit me!! Wahhhh!"
How do you want the Linux community to be percieved? As a "name-calling four year old child" or a mature professional community producing good software quietly and consistantly becoming better and better?
"Gates-as-Borg" icons helps foster which image?
If Microsoft says that the firewall will be enabled by default, the users will deal with it, because they don't have a choice.
They don't have a choice on what the default settings are?
How to turn off the XP firewall
>even if you buy something like Norton Internet Security it will tell prompt you to set up every program the first time it is run.
The instructions don't say "Sometimes, when Windows Firewall blocks a program the first time..."
If you choose to block it, its not going to ask the next time the firewall blocks it. So technically, MS statement is correct.
If I don't know how to open up ports on a firewall or even what a firewall is, how the hell am I going to know figure out how to install Gentoo?!?!?
>I just don't think this is anything special.
From the article;
The finding of a single collision in SHA-1 would not, by itself, cause much trouble, since one arbitrary collision won't do an attacker much good in practice. But history tells us that such discoveries are usually followed by a series of bigger discoveries that widen the breach, to the point that the broken primitive becomes unusable. A collision in SHA-1 would cast doubt over the future viability of any system that relies on SHA-1; and as I've explained, that's a lot of systems. If SHA-1 is completely broken, the result would be significant confusion, reengineering of many systems, and incompatibility between new (patched) systems and old.
>Because obviously Red Hat can't make tons of money off the free software if it isn't good enough for their customers.
But RedHat can just pick and choose which software it decides to go in and "Walmartize".
RedHat saw that Linux + Gnome/KDE and whatever were good enough first and then decided to support it. I very much doubt that they would just be willing to support just any OpenSource product.
>Thus it is in their best interest to fund development, in particular by funding development in a direction that benefits their customers, and thus they hire programmers to do this development.
Or they can wait until the Linux community improves it on their own. If they never get to as good as Z-series customers expect, then they could either say "Its not our product, how about ours that does perform well" or "We will support it but at a lower cost but don't expect it to run as well." Nothing is forcing IBM to improve Linux on hardware X.
> I propose that that is also the answer to whether or not high quality free software harms the world's economy.
The parallel software question would be;
- does the availability of high quality, low cost software (Linux, Apache) help or hinder computer functionality (or computer usablility or computer adoptability or coding quality)?
Economics has nothing to do with appreciation or quality of work. I'm not sure how you made that jump.
Composers and artists do generally want to get paid for their performances. Thats why you pay to go into concerts, why they sell paintings in art galleries, why CDs are sold in stores.
>Do we hear modern composers whingeing about the availability of high quality public domain music works, or today's authors complaining about how they can't compete with Shakey?
No because their customers can and do pay for both old and new artists. The two artists really are delivering different products.
How many database engines or word processors does a company/customer need?
>So, if Walmart saves 10 million by not buying Microsoft licenses and switching to Linux
and invests it in its own company, it will likely create 55 jobs.
How much money a company saves does not relate directly into more jobs.
Say Walmart does save $10million.
They could open a new store (creating new jobs)
or
They could reduce how much they charge for a bottle of shampoo. (no new jobs)
or
They could increase their dividend/buyback (no new jobs)
or
They could give a bonus to certain employees (no new jobs)
>It's a nice idea and it should be done, but he's not the one that's going to do it.
Yes, its all so clear.
Attention all good natured people. Please stop what you are doing. You will become utter and complete failures unless you are a Certified Professional Engineer. Forget about your hard work, lobbying and dedicating your life to helping others. Your lack the skills and specialized university-level degree to help others in any sort of worthwhile way.
Please, just give up. You are just embarssing the rest of us.
From the article;
Mr. Reddy is hoping his project - with backing from Microsoft
Not sure how MS would feel about supporting a project which uses a competitor.
A little education is a powerful thing.
Sorry but that witch doctor isn't going to slow down rates of HIV infection.
>Maybe her suggestion to eat out these corporations from the inside could prove to light a fire under their asses
I think her point is that there is no point in trying to achive "corporate success". The system is built against trying to stand out and succeed.
From the article;
"Can we work in a corporation and contest the system," she asks, "or must we be blind and docile and adhere to everything that the corporation says?""
I don't agree with her point or method of contesting the system. Her later point is something I think everyone should think about.
I think there is some humour in your post, but its been modded insightful.
Maybe if the original poster had reworded his post into;
"Coffee is popular because we need to extend our natural biological cycles into an unnatural 8+ work day. Look at the cycles of other animals as an example."
But if you are commenting that the mods are on crack, I wholely agree with you.
>It's because I don't like most opera and polka.
And therefore you have something better to do with your time. Having more competition isn't going to change this fact. (Ok, maybe if you are really weak-willed)
>I do like movies at times.
But do you like bad movies. Suppose all the movies you saw were bad for the next 10 years. Would you still like movies and spend your free time and money on them?
The AC raises excellent points.
>Competition in MOVIES not in other media formats.
I think the AC was addressing;
>Bad movies are put out because people still go and watch them either in the theatre or later on DVD.
The competition is in how you spend your time and money.
You don't go to the opera or the latest polka festival (if you do, lets assume you don't). Its not becuase there is a lack of competition in those areas but its because you have better things to do with your time.
I did think about it, I work alot with computers at my job.
But "critical" is still not a category I would put computer skills in.
Sorry, but I do think that there is alot more to life than my job. At least I'm trying to get to that point.
>** If they have brains. Or hearts. Or courage.
If movies have taught me anything, its that one quick trip to the Wizard of Oz can fix this!
>I do consider basic computer literacy a critical skill; your computer is not just an appliance.
Its a good skill to have but critical?
I enjoy computers and software but the only thing "critical" about my computer is making sure it doesn't burst into flames.
There is alot more things in the wide world, like testing my home fire alarms, that are much more critical.
Even better yet, spend the 10 hours educating the users about firewalls, virus scanners, spyware and not to click on "Yes" to everything.