I am just taken aback that these drivers are not Open Source. The Open Source developer community would have a lot to contribute to these drivers; they could enhance the performance, add new functionality, and make them more robust.
One word: Bullshit. All R100 and R200 Radeon cards have open source drivers. There are, at most, about a dozen people who work on those drivers and the majority of them are paid to do so. Being open source isn't going to make a flock of people go running to improve the drivers.
Its really good to see that ATI are sorting out the linux debacle withe their drivers, hell even BSD has better support than Linux and that isn't even a graphics intensive system.
I'm not sure how you reached that conclusion. ATI releases drivers for all cards newer than (and including) the Radeon 8500 for Linux x86 + XFree86. You will find no such support for the BSDs. In addition, for all Radeon cards older than the 8500, the primary driver development effort for XFree86 occurs under Linux and is then ported to FreeBSD, typically.
This is completely incorrect. In order to chainload an operating system, grub does not need to read the filesystem. I am happily chainloading FreeBSD 5.1 on ufs2 with grub.
I can't speak for their FreeBSD drivers, but ATI's 3D linux drivers for the Radeon 8500 and up work incredibly well. I get better framerates with UT2003 under linux than I do under Windows with the OpenGL renderer.
Nice try... After they took all your computer equipment and made your life a living hell for a few months, they might finally decide they had the wrong guy. However, due to your reckless nature with your wireless network, the person downloading kiddy porn could have been parked in front of your house for all you know, and gotten away with it.
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No one is suggesting you should be.... But how would you like to convince a judge and jury that it wasn't you? After all, they traced it to your IP address, didn't they?
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What if one of your neighbours decides to leach child porn off the net using your wireless network? Should they think of themselves as your guest?
Not really... The R200 & R300 cards are supported by ATI's FireGL drivers, and really kick ass. UT2003, NWN, etc. are as playable as they are under Windows (and look just as good). Earlier cards have pretty decent support with open source drivers. The Rage128 cards have even been benchmarked higher under Linux than windows (don't know if that's still true). The R100 radeon cards are well supported, but the open source drivers don't support S3TC, making ut2003 and Neverwinter Nights not so nice looking (though still playable).
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Obviously you've never used ATI's FireGL drivers. They drive my Radeon 8500 much faster, and with more stability, than I ever got under Windows with the card (and more than I ever got under Linux with my GF3 and nVidia's drivers).
I sure don't hope ATI will come out as the winner, considering NVidia actually makes working and quite fast graphics drivers for linux and ATI seems to ignore Linux as much as they can get away with
Is that why the 3D drivers from ATI for my Radeon 8500 work so much better than the 3D from nVidia for the GeForce3 I have at work?
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I am just taken aback that these drivers are not Open Source. The Open Source developer community would have a lot to contribute to these drivers; they could enhance the performance, add new functionality, and make them more robust.
One word: Bullshit. All R100 and R200 Radeon cards have open source drivers. There are, at most, about a dozen people who work on those drivers and the majority of them are paid to do so. Being open source isn't going to make a flock of people go running to improve the drivers.
Dinivin
Its really good to see that ATI are sorting out the linux debacle withe their drivers, hell even BSD has better support than Linux and that isn't even a graphics intensive system.
I'm not sure how you reached that conclusion. ATI releases drivers for all cards newer than (and including) the Radeon 8500 for Linux x86 + XFree86. You will find no such support for the BSDs. In addition, for all Radeon cards older than the 8500, the primary driver development effort for XFree86 occurs under Linux and is then ported to FreeBSD, typically.
Dinivin
This is completely incorrect. In order to chainload an operating system, grub does not need to read the filesystem. I am happily chainloading FreeBSD 5.1 on ufs2 with grub.
Dinivin
Try the release candidates at:
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http://www.schneider-digital.de/html/download_ati
They work find with 4.3.0
And a little research on the NWN linux boards would have pointed you in the right direction.
Dinivin
If your laptop is supported (and I have no idea if it is), it'd be supported by the 8800/8700 drivers.
Dinivin
XFree86 Version 4.3.0
glibc-2.3.1-17
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That's using ATI's drivers from:
http://www.schneider-digital.de/html/download_a
I have an 8500LE that works great with those drivers.
Dinivin
http://www.schneider-digital.de/html/download_ati. html
You want the FireGL 8800 driver from that page.
Let's try that again
http://www.schneider-digital.de/html/download_a
Dinivin
How about these.
You want the file glx1_linux_X4.3.zip.
Dinivin
I can't speak for their FreeBSD drivers, but ATI's 3D linux drivers for the Radeon 8500 and up work incredibly well. I get better framerates with UT2003 under linux than I do under Windows with the OpenGL renderer.
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Only an idiot would post without first reading the article and discovering that they did report the incident to their supervisors.
Dinivin
DirectFB has "fusion" support now (that's what they call it). It allows multiple directfb apps to access the display.
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Nice try... After they took all your computer equipment and made your life a living hell for a few months, they might finally decide they had the wrong guy. However, due to your reckless nature with your wireless network, the person downloading kiddy porn could have been parked in front of your house for all you know, and gotten away with it.
Dinivin
No one is suggesting you should be.... But how would you like to convince a judge and jury that it wasn't you? After all, they traced it to your IP address, didn't they?
Dinivin
What if one of your neighbours decides to leach child porn off the net using your wireless network? Should they think of themselves as your guest?
Dinivin
It's the ATI ones that lag behind, IIRC.
Not really... The R200 & R300 cards are supported by ATI's FireGL drivers, and really kick ass. UT2003, NWN, etc. are as playable as they are under Windows (and look just as good). Earlier cards have pretty decent support with open source drivers. The Rage128 cards have even been benchmarked higher under Linux than windows (don't know if that's still true). The R100 radeon cards are well supported, but the open source drivers don't support S3TC, making ut2003 and Neverwinter Nights not so nice looking (though still playable).
Dinivin
Obviously you've never used ATI's FireGL drivers. They drive my Radeon 8500 much faster, and with more stability, than I ever got under Windows with the card (and more than I ever got under Linux with my GF3 and nVidia's drivers).
Dinivin
At least my Radeon 8500 gives me less FPS than TNT2 I previously had.
If that's the case, it's because you either don't have ATI's linux drivers installed, or you don't have them properly configured.
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I sure don't hope ATI will come out as the winner, considering NVidia actually makes working and quite fast graphics drivers for linux and ATI seems to ignore Linux as much as they can get away with
Is that why the 3D drivers from ATI for my Radeon 8500 work so much better than the 3D from nVidia for the GeForce3 I have at work?
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Why does Nvidia's demo with vid-card shows you this [tomshardware.com] and this [tomshardware.com], but ATI shows you this [tomshardware.com]?
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Because not all men think with their dicks, and ATI knows this?
Dinivin
A PNY GeForce3 Ti500...
It was in the 30 second range with the 3xxx drivers and bumped up to the 5 minute range with the 4191 drivers.
Dinivin
Why would anyone not use the nVidia drivers under Linux.
Because it takes 5+ minutes for X to start on my machine when I'm using nVidia's drivers.
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