then i'd hear the howls of those who say flash breaks the usability of the web, is the tool of the devil, etc. you can't win. so you pick a format and suck up the criticism
"Guess we'll have to get used to a future with less then. Kind of a shame that people are so self centered and greedy they can't be bothered to respect people who produce works."
quality and financial outlay is a funny thing. the golden age of high quality cinema is from an age when hollywood only made money from theatres. and i don't know about you, but i've seen plenty of $100 million dollar pieces of shit, and plenty of $100,000 gems. as for "respect" i don't think the royalty of the incans or aztecs got much respect from the spanish either. yet, they went the way of hisotry nonetheless. so it is with making money in the dvd aftermarket. sorry. why don't you go grumble about it with that chimney sweep and that blacksmith over there: technological progress isn't fair, there are losers in it in certain segments of society. but who benefits is SOCIETY AS A WHOLE. oh well. deal with it loser
"Somehow I doubt they'd risk spending $100 million on something that must make all its money back in the theater. But trading won't threaten movies like that, it'll threaten smaller budget works whose production budget is based on the idea of recouping the costs on DVD sales. Of course you (and the mass of warez fiends) simply will not have any part of this "paying others for their work.""
i already addressed the more $ spent=more quality joke. as for who i am with my "warez fiends": kindly look at my sig. who am i now again? blindly shoehorning your ideological opponent into a retarded stereotype does not allow you to win the argument. it merely walls you off from reality
"Filesharing brings nothing unique to the table. It just takes the works that would be in movie theaters and on TV and shoves them over the internet, with no respect shown to those who created them. Or if you're the pirate bay, with arrogance, a childish attitutde, and while generating revenue off it."
ah, there's that misplaced notion of what respect means again. in your mind apparently, respect consists of a frozen-in-time consideration of how things work in society, and that will never change. your blind. your mind is closed. that just because at one point in time, people got on boats to go around africa to go to india, that now they have a canal in egypt, they aren't showing "respect" to the supply depot in capetown. that just because once people rode sailboats, and now they ride steamboats, they aren't showing "respect" to sailmakers. what you call "respect" isn't the real concept of respect at all. it is "this is the way things work and that will enver change and if someone tries to change it they are being immoral". when what they are actually doing is doing things BETTER
things change einstein. learn that, or become antiquated and irrelevant. because that's currently the quality of your thoughts on this subject. you should go talk with the executives at de beers about diamonds. they share your notion of what "respect" is all about: artificially propping up a false market in the face of technological change
who did 9/11 were from mostly upper middle class middle eastern backgrounds. meaning the whole argument about poverty creating terrorism is bs
also bs is the idea that engineering interested is also islamofascist interested. it is more accurate to say that everyone in the middle east is engineering interested, as this is viewed as prestige in the middle east
therefore, those who are islamofascist interested are also usually engineering interested... but only because everyone is. causation vs. correlation, etc...
tv didn't kill the theatre in the 1950s. the theatre kept growing
why?
they did studies. it's sort of a post-modern church. psychologiclly, people go there to feel like part of a community, the other gasps, laughs, etc. in a movie house heighten the experience. yes, dorothy, that effect is taking into account the crying babies, the asshole with the cell phone, etc.
seriously: the hdtv, internet movies, etc. will not alter the money made at theatres. because its a controlled venue, a must have experience. its psychology
you probably still have a lovely retort to my point
people will trade movies online. for free. without any limitations. they just will, get used to it. no matter what laws anyone passes. end of story, there really is no alternative to that future
movies will still be made for $100 million. the studios will just make their money only in the theatres. there just will be no more online/ dvd/ vhs aftermarket
oh yeah, remember the vhs? that the studios fought tooth and nail in the 1980s because it was going to kill their movie business? which they now count as a huge cash cow? and which they now vigorously defend? pffft. yeah, like those guys understand a damn thing about what they are talking about
people announced the death of the moviehouse in the 1950s. why? television. this was two decades before "Jaws" and the birth of the summer blockbuster. some genius prognostication there, huh? same with those predicting the internet, and the hdtv, and all of that will kill the theatre. uh, no. history repeating itself. the theatre business is secure, really
studios will still make lots of money, people will still jam movie houses, no matter what a bunch of asocial slashdotters in their parent's basement say. watching anime on a 17 inch monitor by yourself in your basement is NOT a threat to people going to the movies on dates, in families, in groups, to see the blockbuster first, etc. no matter what technological advance is made. seriously
hollywood: you're just going to have to wean yourself of the dvd aftermarket. there will be nothing online to match that cash cow, and the internet is going to kill that cash cow. go ahead and pass a bunch of laws, pay off some congressman, step up in enforcement. doesn't matter in the least. that cash cow is going bye bye, nothing is going to replace it. deal with that, nothing is changing that fact
just put yourself in your 1980s "the aftermarket is going to kill the movie business!" point of view, you'll get used to the change
all you need is a laptop to make music nowadays. your average middle class high school teenager has all the tools within his financial and technical acumen to make a full-scale high quality album of songs
and you're forgetting that people make music because they like music, not because they like money. teenage boys pick up a guitar not so someday they will have the investment portfolio of jay z, but so that they will get in some teenage girl's pants
in other words, the motivation to make music will always be there, even if it costs $1 million to make a song and you have zero chance of ever recouping your investment. somebody will still spend that $1 million in that hypothetical environment
because the real return on that investment is love music
hey artists: you'll get paid for concerts and advertising, nothing else. get used to it
that's the reality we are becoming
don't like it? who cares. that's what is happening anyway. go ahead and make a bunch of laws counteracting this trend. i hereby pass a law saying the sun will move in the opposite direction. same impact on reality
"Don't point that out to your date, of course, since she'll be more impressed by knowledgeable sneering, especially if everyone in the seats around you can hear what a smart guy she's with."
</sarcasm>
i know you are being sarcastic, but a sentence like this pretty much explains the social life with a straight face of a good amount of slashdotters here, so your sarcasm might be wasted here, and actually encourage this sort of behavior
go after terrorist organizations, child pornographers, etc.
if you are hosting such things, you deserve to be hunted down
but with your jibe at "libertarian" one assumes you are the usual privacy absolutist who simply doesn't understand the government has no interest in you. it inflates your ego to think anyone in society or the government actually feels threatened by you
it is of course evil for governments to oppress people just for speaking their minds
luckily for you, unless you are in iran or china, no one is going to do that
people actually do evil things in this world, and governments actually go after them for that. and that's a good thing
i know that's a really radical wacky concept i just put forth there and it clashes with your mythology about government oppressing you just for the hell of it, but you can safely ignore me. i'm obviously a brainwashed sheeple or an advance unit of the illuminati
some people just need hysterical melodrama to make their lives feel meaningful i guess
oh, and for saying this, i'm obviously a neocon loving propaganda addled fear loving monster right?
i couldn't possibly be saying this form a point of view who holds both neocons and privacy absolutists in contempt, right?
Slashdot Mirror
as i type on this keyboard, and my thoughts appear in the ether as a comment on slashdot, and then my thoughts generate responses from... um... tools
your computer GIVES viruses!
then i'd hear the howls of those who say flash breaks the usability of the web, is the tool of the devil, etc. you can't win. so you pick a format and suck up the criticism
"Guess we'll have to get used to a future with less then. Kind of a shame that people are so self centered and greedy they can't be bothered to respect people who produce works."
quality and financial outlay is a funny thing. the golden age of high quality cinema is from an age when hollywood only made money from theatres. and i don't know about you, but i've seen plenty of $100 million dollar pieces of shit, and plenty of $100,000 gems. as for "respect" i don't think the royalty of the incans or aztecs got much respect from the spanish either. yet, they went the way of hisotry nonetheless. so it is with making money in the dvd aftermarket. sorry. why don't you go grumble about it with that chimney sweep and that blacksmith over there: technological progress isn't fair, there are losers in it in certain segments of society. but who benefits is SOCIETY AS A WHOLE. oh well. deal with it loser
"Somehow I doubt they'd risk spending $100 million on something that must make all its money back in the theater. But trading won't threaten movies like that, it'll threaten smaller budget works whose production budget is based on the idea of recouping the costs on DVD sales. Of course you (and the mass of warez fiends) simply will not have any part of this "paying others for their work.""
i already addressed the more $ spent=more quality joke. as for who i am with my "warez fiends": kindly look at my sig. who am i now again? blindly shoehorning your ideological opponent into a retarded stereotype does not allow you to win the argument. it merely walls you off from reality
"Filesharing brings nothing unique to the table. It just takes the works that would be in movie theaters and on TV and shoves them over the internet, with no respect shown to those who created them. Or if you're the pirate bay, with arrogance, a childish attitutde, and while generating revenue off it."
ah, there's that misplaced notion of what respect means again. in your mind apparently, respect consists of a frozen-in-time consideration of how things work in society, and that will never change. your blind. your mind is closed. that just because at one point in time, people got on boats to go around africa to go to india, that now they have a canal in egypt, they aren't showing "respect" to the supply depot in capetown. that just because once people rode sailboats, and now they ride steamboats, they aren't showing "respect" to sailmakers. what you call "respect" isn't the real concept of respect at all. it is "this is the way things work and that will enver change and if someone tries to change it they are being immoral". when what they are actually doing is doing things BETTER
things change einstein. learn that, or become antiquated and irrelevant. because that's currently the quality of your thoughts on this subject. you should go talk with the executives at de beers about diamonds. they share your notion of what "respect" is all about: artificially propping up a false market in the face of technological change
who did 9/11 were from mostly upper middle class middle eastern backgrounds. meaning the whole argument about poverty creating terrorism is bs
also bs is the idea that engineering interested is also islamofascist interested. it is more accurate to say that everyone in the middle east is engineering interested, as this is viewed as prestige in the middle east
therefore, those who are islamofascist interested are also usually engineering interested... but only because everyone is. causation vs. correlation, etc...
tv didn't kill the theatre in the 1950s. the theatre kept growing
why?
they did studies. it's sort of a post-modern church. psychologiclly, people go there to feel like part of a community, the other gasps, laughs, etc. in a movie house heighten the experience. yes, dorothy, that effect is taking into account the crying babies, the asshole with the cell phone, etc.
seriously: the hdtv, internet movies, etc. will not alter the money made at theatres. because its a controlled venue, a must have experience. its psychology
you probably still have a lovely retort to my point
your point also applies to the television
why didn't tv kill the theatre in the 1950s?
case closed
has felt like they were the only one in the room who "just didn't get it"
well now is the time for you to relish, jeer, or commissurate (condescendingly)
for here we have the experience of "just not getting it" playing out on someone else's dime, on a much larger scale, to a much larger audience
people will trade movies online. for free. without any limitations. they just will, get used to it. no matter what laws anyone passes. end of story, there really is no alternative to that future
movies will still be made for $100 million. the studios will just make their money only in the theatres. there just will be no more online/ dvd/ vhs aftermarket
oh yeah, remember the vhs? that the studios fought tooth and nail in the 1980s because it was going to kill their movie business? which they now count as a huge cash cow? and which they now vigorously defend? pffft. yeah, like those guys understand a damn thing about what they are talking about
people announced the death of the moviehouse in the 1950s. why? television. this was two decades before "Jaws" and the birth of the summer blockbuster. some genius prognostication there, huh? same with those predicting the internet, and the hdtv, and all of that will kill the theatre. uh, no. history repeating itself. the theatre business is secure, really
studios will still make lots of money, people will still jam movie houses, no matter what a bunch of asocial slashdotters in their parent's basement say. watching anime on a 17 inch monitor by yourself in your basement is NOT a threat to people going to the movies on dates, in families, in groups, to see the blockbuster first, etc. no matter what technological advance is made. seriously
hollywood: you're just going to have to wean yourself of the dvd aftermarket. there will be nothing online to match that cash cow, and the internet is going to kill that cash cow. go ahead and pass a bunch of laws, pay off some congressman, step up in enforcement. doesn't matter in the least. that cash cow is going bye bye, nothing is going to replace it. deal with that, nothing is changing that fact
just put yourself in your 1980s "the aftermarket is going to kill the movie business!" point of view, you'll get used to the change
morons
one wonders what can motivate you to even comment
much has been written about the internet's anonymity exposing truckloads of mindless negativity
;-)
that some of it should reveal itself as racism isn't surprising in the least
don't feed the troll, nor even be disturbed by his presence
browse comments above the 2 or 3 threshold, or get some mental bleach
all you need is a laptop to make music nowadays. your average middle class high school teenager has all the tools within his financial and technical acumen to make a full-scale high quality album of songs
and you're forgetting that people make music because they like music, not because they like money. teenage boys pick up a guitar not so someday they will have the investment portfolio of jay z, but so that they will get in some teenage girl's pants
in other words, the motivation to make music will always be there, even if it costs $1 million to make a song and you have zero chance of ever recouping your investment. somebody will still spend that $1 million in that hypothetical environment
because the real return on that investment is love music
you don't understand the motivations here
hey music industry: you're done, you're history, you're bankrupt. buh bye
hey artists: you'll get paid for concerts and advertising, nothing else. get used to it
that's the reality we are becoming
don't like it? who cares. that's what is happening anyway. go ahead and make a bunch of laws counteracting this trend. i hereby pass a law saying the sun will move in the opposite direction. same impact on reality
end of story
is this for mounting on the aboveforementioned railgun?
i think the rail gun might need a padded gun stock before it needs this sighting tool though
let's get out there men and show those damn whales who the hell is in charge here!
"Don't point that out to your date, of course, since she'll be more impressed by knowledgeable sneering, especially if everyone in the seats around you can hear what a smart guy she's with."
</sarcasm>
i know you are being sarcastic, but a sentence like this pretty much explains the social life with a straight face of a good amount of slashdotters here, so your sarcasm might be wasted here, and actually encourage this sort of behavior
some people need to learn you need to nip evil in the bud, that if you try to appease it and make peace with it, it only grows stronger and bolder
here, what you didn't learn from history
a crime on the level of jaywalking here must be fought tooth and nail, but outright genocide far away is to be yawned at
your ironic ad hominem has totally destroyed my pov, i am slayed
?!
you win arguments by pointing to something that happened 60 years ago?
if that is relevant, do you consider the current german government more or less oppressive than the us government?
oh RIGHT, things change in 60 years
maybe your comment has no meaning?
what a fucktard
why think about a subject when you can kneejerk your idiotic stereotypes and live on in blind propaganda
oh sorry: propaganda is only a tool of neocons
heaven forbid i should suggest it exist elsewhere, or that is exists in you, right?
now if you will excuse me, i have to get back to sucking dick cheney's cock and drinking oil from the skulls of iraqi children
zzzzzz
why think about a subject when you can kneejerk your retarded stereotypes and live on in blind propaganda
oh sorry: propaganda is only a tool of neocons, heaven forbid i should suggest it exist elsewhere, or that is exists in you, right?
now if you will excuse me, i have to get back to sucking dick cheney's cock and drinking oil from the sjulls of iraqi children
pfffffffft
now i would like for you to relate to me a realistic comparison from your mind of western governments controlling speech versus iran or china
go ahead
go after terrorist organizations, child pornographers, etc.
if you are hosting such things, you deserve to be hunted down
but with your jibe at "libertarian" one assumes you are the usual privacy absolutist who simply doesn't understand the government has no interest in you. it inflates your ego to think anyone in society or the government actually feels threatened by you
it is of course evil for governments to oppress people just for speaking their minds
luckily for you, unless you are in iran or china, no one is going to do that
people actually do evil things in this world, and governments actually go after them for that. and that's a good thing
i know that's a really radical wacky concept i just put forth there and it clashes with your mythology about government oppressing you just for the hell of it, but you can safely ignore me. i'm obviously a brainwashed sheeple or an advance unit of the illuminati
some people just need hysterical melodrama to make their lives feel meaningful i guess
oh, and for saying this, i'm obviously a neocon loving propaganda addled fear loving monster right?
i couldn't possibly be saying this form a point of view who holds both neocons and privacy absolutists in contempt, right?
in soviet switzerland, YOU sue RIAA!
the power of bored horny teenaged males