I'm going to get jumped for saying this, but stick with Windows for fat client development. Unless you are looking at developing web apps, you are going to be almost completely disappointed at the selection of tools available to you on Linux when compared to those for Windows. I'm not saying that there aren't tools for doing this on Linux, but dear gawd, why would you want to when the VS tools are so much easier to work with. And by "work with" I mean get work done. Use MySQL on Linux as your db server, by all means, but do your client development with what you already know.
Insightful? Really? For a post that truly did miss Bruce's point? That point was, BTW, that if you don't have a good reason for keeping something, don't. Make that a policy and enforce it. Anything, not just evidence of corporate sleaze, can become a liability. Only a fool would keep potentially dangerous garbage when she didn't have to.
In fact, the 3 laws were a convenient plot device to show how those 3 laws would break down.
I don't believe Asimov himself ever treated them as anything other than a plot device to explore the topic.
He didn't seriously see them as the way to keep us safe from robotics.
Plot device, perhaps, but if you've read the entire "robot" series of novels, you'll see that it was used to provide a unique "angle" from which to tackle some classical problems of ethics. As a practical matter, I rather doubt that such a set of such laws, even if they were logically sound, could be reliably built into a machine such that no contrivance, hardware or software, could be used to circumvent them.
So how would a small company know if their data has been hacked.
You know the ones with perhaps 1 IT guy, who mainly just installs canned software and make sure the computer works.
The data could have been compromised for months without anyone knowing it.
Part of the problem with the economy slow recovery is difficulty in running a business. Adding restrictions on use of technology makes it much harder.
Well, that's a good question, and arguably applies to companies of all sizes. And my answer is, "You'll know because you're doing the things you're supposed to be doing. You know, like employing things like SIEM, IDS, IPS, etc.
But are no longer classified as such in the West for... correctness.
At any rate, it's a pretty stupid reason for refusing anything allowed to "normal" heterosexuals. Discrimination appears to be systematic in many countries, including Russia...
TFTFY. Something that, by nature, occurs in a sizable portion of the population, and which has, itself, no debilitating signs or symptoms is not really a disorder, so politics has nothing to do with it.
Most/.ers probably are not old enough to remember the days when all telecommunications were regulated under title II. Let's just say that costs were higher, innovation was essentially prohibited, and service was even worse than you can get from Comcast today.
"So, the next time you complain about your phone service, why don't you try using two Dixie cups with a string? We don't care. We don't have to. We're the Phone Company."
Strawman much? Your argument seems to want to blame Title II for the evils of a monopoly. Google wants that status so that they can do what only the ILEC's are allowed to do right now. That's a huge change in this monopoly game.
Islam caters to a really special kind of demagoguery that its followers can be more batshit crazy over a cartoon than even the most committed abortion clinic bombers.
Sorry, but I don't see much of distinction there. Terrorism and murder are no more, or less, justified by any particular religious belief. Hurting other people because you believe the invisible man in the sky somehow demands it of you is kinda the very definition of bat-shit crazy.
It's interesting how this top-down regulatory move without the input of America's elected lawmakers is being characterized as the true Will Of The People. There's serious Newspeak going on here.
WTF? Will of the people? As interpreted by "elected lawmakers? You must be joking.
Been there and done that, twice. Commercially available digital music sucks. MP3 will never be "how it was meant to be". Not that the tin-eared tools who think Beats headphones are cool can hear the difference, but just sayin'... some of us can hear the difference.
...what makes Vinyl the perfect DRM is that it starts out degraded.
Really? Compared to what? A well produced CD. Perhaps. It would surely take some serious high-end turntable components to get the best out of vinyl, but compared to the mp3 shit that (almost) everyone thinks is just fine? No. Not even close.
No point in depriving yourself of something just because there's no adequate digital version. But barring those use cases...
That's the thing, there's a lot of shitty CD's out there. Yeah, get off my lawn, but a lot of the music I like to listen to was just "dumped" to CD. The difference between my antique vinyl "Thick As A Brick" and my CD version is astounding. Yes, Telarc does good work. Superlative. But their catalog is small.
And don't even get me started on the tube mythologies.
Not a myth. I don't have a golden ear, but I am hear to tell you that my SET amp sounds far better than any solid state gear I have ever owned, by far. Yes, it has it's limitations, there's only so much you can do with 4 or 5 watts, but with the right program material, through the right speakers, the difference is nothing short of breathtaking.
There is always a chain of trust - a belief that your senses are accurately showing you reality; that scientific observations were documented properly; or that scientific models built off of those observations reflect reality; or even a belief that there is an objective reality at all!
By your logic, nobody should ever trust any scientific finding without have done the work for herself. By your reasoning, peer review counts for nothing. Those views are not rational. They are, however, extremely common amongst climate change deniers and others who would prefer to believe in a more attractive version of "the truth", despite there being overwhelming evidence of something less agreeable.
There's a huge difference between rationally discussing the solution to a problem and ignoring the existence of a problem. Both result in a solution, one by abdicating the ability to affect the outcome.
Not really as one of the solutions to the problem is to let it ride and deal with the problems as they surface.
Uh, that would be a rational suggestion if not for the fact that there is no "dealing with the problems as they surface". By the time something "surfaces", it will be far, far too late to field any effective response. Or so the experts are telling us. I gather that you disagree with those experts. On what basis to you disagree?
Are you a practicing climate scientist who has personally checked all those facts?
Oh, how predictable; your attempt to equate blind faith and the reasoned acceptance of the findings of an overwhelming number of "practicing climate scientists". Science is knowable. Valid results can be verified. If I were of a mind to, I could acquire the expertise and do so. There is, to understate it just a bit, a big fucking difference between that and blind faith.
The leader of one very large religion joining forces with the very large religion of MMGW.
All MMGW religion is "settled science" with no need for the denying heretics to be heard
Facts be damned! - we "believe" in MMGW!
Belief has nothing to do with it. Belief implies taking something on faith, even in the absence of facts. The facts supporting the theory of MMGW are quite clear. Reason, not faith, dictates that this theory be given greater weight that those being put forth by those who benefit from ignoring the problem. I suspect that the Pope's message will be that, as the Xtian god has charged humanity with being stewards of their world, a carefully reasoned course of action is called for.
Fluoridation experiments related to populace control was started by the Nazis, not the communists, fyi
Yes, but the public spazzing over flouridation came at the peak of the "red scare" years. "A communist plot", in other words. Get your history straight.
CIA/NSA propaganda machine is in full force. I predict US will be "liberating" north Korea in 2015.
You are an idiot, then. NK has very little we want and they are not a real threat as a nation state. No, they are not. There's no profit in fucking with them, and nation states don't go in for terrorism. Despite all the absolutely silly bluster, the Norks aren't going to invite the staggering reprisals that would be sure to follow if they actually carried out a tenth of what they threaten.
I don't believe you! I definitely think this hack was an inside job.
Yeah, and global warming is faked by the left wing media, and vaccines are poison, and municipal water flouridation is a communist plot. Oh, and by the way, you don't really believe that you are anonymous here on/., do you?
Until it's proven otherwise, I'm going to assume that these guys are the same ones that did the hack and that the North Korea link is bullshit.
So you're going with "no evidence" to support your conclusions over "some evidence". Yep, that's some sound reasoning there. Look, I have my doubts about the Norks' ability to pull this off on their own, but then again, that is a part of the world where governments (not beholden to Wall Street and priorities that rarely stretch beyond the current fiscal year) are willing to play long-ball. They may well have been auditioning players and laying plans for a long time, or they may have outsourced the work. In any case, we have some evidence implicating the Norks in an action that is entirely in keeping with their global "character". Guilty until proven otherwise.
Hard perimeter? Please. It's a question of when, not if, those get breached.
Defense in depth -- including detection, response and remediation -- is the only way to play.
This. Perimeter defenses are necessary, of course, but they don't do a damn thing when some exec gets his machine owned by clicking that spear phishing link. So you'd better have something that alerts you when that happens.
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I'm going to get jumped for saying this, but stick with Windows for fat client development. Unless you are looking at developing web apps, you are going to be almost completely disappointed at the selection of tools available to you on Linux when compared to those for Windows. I'm not saying that there aren't tools for doing this on Linux, but dear gawd, why would you want to when the VS tools are so much easier to work with. And by "work with" I mean get work done. Use MySQL on Linux as your db server, by all means, but do your client development with what you already know.
Insightful? Really? For a post that truly did miss Bruce's point? That point was, BTW, that if you don't have a good reason for keeping something, don't. Make that a policy and enforce it. Anything, not just evidence of corporate sleaze, can become a liability. Only a fool would keep potentially dangerous garbage when she didn't have to.
In fact, the 3 laws were a convenient plot device to show how those 3 laws would break down.
I don't believe Asimov himself ever treated them as anything other than a plot device to explore the topic.
He didn't seriously see them as the way to keep us safe from robotics.
Plot device, perhaps, but if you've read the entire "robot" series of novels, you'll see that it was used to provide a unique "angle" from which to tackle some classical problems of ethics. As a practical matter, I rather doubt that such a set of such laws, even if they were logically sound, could be reliably built into a machine such that no contrivance, hardware or software, could be used to circumvent them.
So if companies are prohibited from profiting from the information, it may be tricky to have this business model survive.
Yeah? So? The message should be clear enough, find some other way to make money and stop being a leach.
This is the GOP you're talking about. They're not interested in anything that isn't 100% of what they want...
TFTFY.
Yeah, and the Democratic president waited until *after* the Democrats lost power in the legislature before proposing it.
Seems to me that the GOP did a pretty good job of blocking legislation that they didn't like for the last 6 years, even without a majority.
So how would a small company know if their data has been hacked. You know the ones with perhaps 1 IT guy, who mainly just installs canned software and make sure the computer works. The data could have been compromised for months without anyone knowing it.
Part of the problem with the economy slow recovery is difficulty in running a business. Adding restrictions on use of technology makes it much harder.
Well, that's a good question, and arguably applies to companies of all sizes. And my answer is, "You'll know because you're doing the things you're supposed to be doing. You know, like employing things like SIEM, IDS, IPS, etc.
But are no longer classified as such in the West for ... correctness.
At any rate, it's a pretty stupid reason for refusing anything allowed to "normal" heterosexuals. Discrimination appears to be systematic in many countries, including Russia...
TFTFY. Something that, by nature, occurs in a sizable portion of the population, and which has, itself, no debilitating signs or symptoms is not really a disorder, so politics has nothing to do with it.
Be careful what you ask for.
Most /.ers probably are not old enough to remember the days when all telecommunications were regulated under title II. Let's just say that costs were higher, innovation was essentially prohibited, and service was even worse than you can get from Comcast today.
"So, the next time you complain about your phone service, why don't you try using two Dixie cups with a string? We don't care. We don't have to. We're the Phone Company."
Strawman much? Your argument seems to want to blame Title II for the evils of a monopoly. Google wants that status so that they can do what only the ILEC's are allowed to do right now. That's a huge change in this monopoly game.
This is a better article[NSFW] from the Onion.
Islam caters to a really special kind of demagoguery that its followers can be more batshit crazy over a cartoon than even the most committed abortion clinic bombers.
Sorry, but I don't see much of distinction there. Terrorism and murder are no more, or less, justified by any particular religious belief. Hurting other people because you believe the invisible man in the sky somehow demands it of you is kinda the very definition of bat-shit crazy.
It's interesting how this top-down regulatory move without the input of America's elected lawmakers is being characterized as the true Will Of The People. There's serious Newspeak going on here.
WTF? Will of the people? As interpreted by "elected lawmakers? You must be joking.
It is the social part that makes me want to do it. I can just as easy download the movie for free if money is the problem.
You and your friends are probably the assholes who talk and text through the movies in the theaters. Enjoy your "social" experience.
Been there and done that, twice. Commercially available digital music sucks. MP3 will never be "how it was meant to be". Not that the tin-eared tools who think Beats headphones are cool can hear the difference, but just sayin'... some of us can hear the difference.
Really? Compared to what? A well produced CD. Perhaps. It would surely take some serious high-end turntable components to get the best out of vinyl, but compared to the mp3 shit that (almost) everyone thinks is just fine? No. Not even close.
No point in depriving yourself of something just because there's no adequate digital version. But barring those use cases...
That's the thing, there's a lot of shitty CD's out there. Yeah, get off my lawn, but a lot of the music I like to listen to was just "dumped" to CD. The difference between my antique vinyl "Thick As A Brick" and my CD version is astounding. Yes, Telarc does good work. Superlative. But their catalog is small.
And don't even get me started on the tube mythologies.
Not a myth. I don't have a golden ear, but I am hear to tell you that my SET amp sounds far better than any solid state gear I have ever owned, by far. Yes, it has it's limitations, there's only so much you can do with 4 or 5 watts, but with the right program material, through the right speakers, the difference is nothing short of breathtaking.
There is always a chain of trust - a belief that your senses are accurately showing you reality; that scientific observations were documented properly; or that scientific models built off of those observations reflect reality; or even a belief that there is an objective reality at all!
By your logic, nobody should ever trust any scientific finding without have done the work for herself. By your reasoning, peer review counts for nothing. Those views are not rational. They are, however, extremely common amongst climate change deniers and others who would prefer to believe in a more attractive version of "the truth", despite there being overwhelming evidence of something less agreeable.
Not really as one of the solutions to the problem is to let it ride and deal with the problems as they surface.
Uh, that would be a rational suggestion if not for the fact that there is no "dealing with the problems as they surface". By the time something "surfaces", it will be far, far too late to field any effective response. Or so the experts are telling us. I gather that you disagree with those experts. On what basis to you disagree?
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Are you a practicing climate scientist who has personally checked all those facts?
Oh, how predictable; your attempt to equate blind faith and the reasoned acceptance of the findings of an overwhelming number of "practicing climate scientists". Science is knowable. Valid results can be verified. If I were of a mind to, I could acquire the expertise and do so. There is, to understate it just a bit, a big fucking difference between that and blind faith.
The leader of one very large religion joining forces with the very large religion of MMGW.
All MMGW religion is "settled science" with no need for the denying heretics to be heard
Facts be damned! - we "believe" in MMGW!
Belief has nothing to do with it. Belief implies taking something on faith, even in the absence of facts. The facts supporting the theory of MMGW are quite clear. Reason, not faith, dictates that this theory be given greater weight that those being put forth by those who benefit from ignoring the problem. I suspect that the Pope's message will be that, as the Xtian god has charged humanity with being stewards of their world, a carefully reasoned course of action is called for.
Bread and circuses. Nothing more.
If Google was blocked for not obeying Chinese law, but isn't blocked anymore... then what principles did Google compromise in order to get unblocked?
Whad-a-ya got? We're easy.
Fluoridation experiments related to populace control was started by the Nazis, not the communists, fyi
Yes, but the public spazzing over flouridation came at the peak of the "red scare" years. "A communist plot", in other words. Get your history straight.
this is Nayirah al-aba all over again https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
CIA/NSA propaganda machine is in full force. I predict US will be "liberating" north Korea in 2015.
You are an idiot, then. NK has very little we want and they are not a real threat as a nation state. No, they are not. There's no profit in fucking with them, and nation states don't go in for terrorism. Despite all the absolutely silly bluster, the Norks aren't going to invite the staggering reprisals that would be sure to follow if they actually carried out a tenth of what they threaten.
I don't believe you! I definitely think this hack was an inside job.
Yeah, and global warming is faked by the left wing media, and vaccines are poison, and municipal water flouridation is a communist plot. Oh, and by the way, you don't really believe that you are anonymous here on /., do you?
Until it's proven otherwise, I'm going to assume that these guys are the same ones that did the hack and that the North Korea link is bullshit.
So you're going with "no evidence" to support your conclusions over "some evidence". Yep, that's some sound reasoning there. Look, I have my doubts about the Norks' ability to pull this off on their own, but then again, that is a part of the world where governments (not beholden to Wall Street and priorities that rarely stretch beyond the current fiscal year) are willing to play long-ball. They may well have been auditioning players and laying plans for a long time, or they may have outsourced the work. In any case, we have some evidence implicating the Norks in an action that is entirely in keeping with their global "character". Guilty until proven otherwise.
Hard perimeter? Please. It's a question of when, not if, those get breached.
Defense in depth -- including detection, response and remediation -- is the only way to play.
This. Perimeter defenses are necessary, of course, but they don't do a damn thing when some exec gets his machine owned by clicking that spear phishing link. So you'd better have something that alerts you when that happens.