As the better question - Do the wardens of our panopticon really consider the terrorists that stupid, that they would A) try the same attack again, and B) really need to Google the concept of a backpack?
The answer to your question is, demonstrably, yes. And that is the really scary bit - that those "defenders of liberty" are so fucking dim that they waste time on such pursuits.
Well put. It is going to take a court, legislators, and a populace who all have a much better grasp of the issues and the technology than now exists in order for this to change. Meanwhile, we go further down a dangerous path; a path from which we might be able to return.
IT is really important and users need IT services even though they don't think they do, says IT services company which, by definition, understands IT services far better, from an operational as well as a strategic point of view, far, far better than most users.
It should be obvious that this apples-and-oranges comparison is just so much BS. Does every business need to maintain a high end storage network, complete with off-site DR, block level replication, and all the other expensive bells and whistles? Of course not, but to suggest that none do need that level of sophistication is to ignore reality. Likewise, there are various shades of gray between these two extremes. Making a decision about such a fundamental piece of infrastructure using price alone is insane.
The problem is that a TB of enterprise class storage (and backup) isn't $100.
Damn straight. Too bad that all too many users and PHB's forget that adjective and it's importance. Don't get me wrong. I love "the cloud" and it's economy (among it's many virtues) but to assume that this or that commodity service is a good fit for a system that is engineered to meet the security, availability, and management demands of this or that business is just plain stupid.
Yeah, waiting a week to get an expired password reset is precisely what I mean when I say going through IT is slow.
So the obvious solution then, is to allow users to reset their own passwords. Right? Who needs an "administrator" for the access control system? Just give all the users the admin passwords. Right?
Obviously, that's an absurd suggestion, but you've offered nothing in the way of a solution to the problem you describe. Hell, you have not even offered a half-assed analysis of why it takes so long for a password reset. I have not seen things so bad that it took a week to get that done, but I have seen it take hours. That's not acceptable, but poor management resulted in a situation where there were no hands available for "single user" issues, when they were all occupied on issues that impacted multiple users. Blaming "IT" for that condition is short-sighted, to say the least.
I can give you a counter example. We had a Cloud Ops team that had the task to exactly prevent this stuff you described.
Great. Except, they didn't even know how to set an EC2 instance with EBS. Also they couldn't provide the EC2 instance types that were needed.
So in the end, we just worked around them. Instead of taking *days* to explain them what we needed, we had our EC2 instance running in 5min exactly how we needed it.
Whoever picked/assigned that team failed, because the "team" obviously lacked the skill set required to do the job, just like the developer in GP's example lacked those skills. That's and argument for better training, but hardly an argument for placing the management of IT resources in the hands of end users.
I think the Chinese probably have a lot more to fear from using American technology than the reverse.
Bullshit. When was the last time, no. Make what when have you ever heard of a vendor loading it's network hardware with gear that spies on behalf of the U.S. government? Not that those fuckers don't spy too, but they're a lot more up front about it. "Yeah, we have all the details about every phone call, text, and web search you've ever made. What are you gonna do about it?" Still, that's a far cry from embedding surveillance functionality in my laptop.
No, it's not. Not ever. Caught, or not caught, they still win if they've managed to cow us so much that we give up precious rights.
...or did you just forget that sarcasm tag?
We're the phone company. We don't care what you little people want, need, or think is important. We don't have to. We never did, and we likely never will because you believe that you absolutely must be able to yack and/or text with your BFF, and update your TwitBook status. That all too common pathology will keep you bending over for just about any abuse we or our real customers care to put to you. So shut up and take it, bitches.
'Yeah good morning, I'd like the porn filter on my broadband turned off, please?'
'What, are you some kind of PERVERT?'
And a year or three in the future...
"May it please the court, the state would like to introduce into evidence that the suspect did, in blatant disregard of the welfare of children everywhere, demand that his Internet service provider to remove all child-abuse protection filters from his account."
Wow. It must be nice to live your black and white world. Mine is so many confusing shades of gray that I find that I am just unable to put suitable labels on most people and things.
We need to keep the pressure on, and support organizations and officials...
Good luck with that. Sure, it's a noble pursuit, but let's face it. The bleating about gun control, gay marriage, and abortion, with the occasional story about who had an illicit sexual encounter, is what really matters to the "the press". It's all about the ratings, not the facts; certainly not the facts around issues that we should be caring about.
We can't have every clever Tom, Dick, and Harry breaking the privacy and security of people's mobile devices and whatnot. That's our job and we'll thank you to not meddle with our business. Besides, your "invention" is clearly a tool for teh terrorists and will be classified as a munition by the end of the week. See if you can "spot the fed" with a black bag over your head.
Your Friends,
Sounds like a cool place full of brave, freedom loving patriots.
Not really. Sounds more like a bunch of puffed up, chest thumping, trash talking rednecks. Still, I hope the out-of-state tags aren't to expensive, because I will buy one, just on principle, .
You're only allowed to use a shotgun firing pellets (lot of good that will do with the drone at altitude), and the bounties paid out are nowhere near a practical amount of money for the effort put in.
Well of course shootin' 'em at altitude makes no sense. Waste of birdshot. And sluicin' 'em (shooting them at rest on the ground) ain't sportin'. That's why I got my brother-in-law working on some decoys right now, and I fired up the ol' cassette recorder to practice my drone callin'. See, you want to catch just as they're coming in low over the decoys.
Might have to find me a bigger bird dog, though.
9-11 wasn't a car bomb. Why are we trying to stop every possible bad thing?
Yeah, pretty much. Cuz, ya know, the public is a-scared of teh terrorists and we can do anything we want if we add "to prevent terrorism" to the end of it.
I mean, WTF, Google? How did anyone who had any sort of clue at all think that it was acceptable to store data that is critical to my networks' (yes, several) in the clear when you copied it from their Android devices. Again, what the fuck?
Look, people. If Google, Twitter, Facebook, et al don't need warrants, why the hell should we be required to get them every time we feel the need to violate your privacy?
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As the better question - Do the wardens of our panopticon really consider the terrorists that stupid, that they would A) try the same attack again, and B) really need to Google the concept of a backpack?
The answer to your question is, demonstrably, yes. And that is the really scary bit - that those "defenders of liberty" are so fucking dim that they waste time on such pursuits.
Well put. It is going to take a court, legislators, and a populace who all have a much better grasp of the issues and the technology than now exists in order for this to change. Meanwhile, we go further down a dangerous path; a path from which we might be able to return.
No one deserves to die, or to be made to fear that they might die, just because they are stupid. Even if they are as stupid as Sarah Palin.
IT is really important and users need IT services even though they don't think they do, says IT services company which, by definition, understands IT services far better, from an operational as well as a strategic point of view, far, far better than most users.
TFTFY.
It should be obvious that this apples-and-oranges comparison is just so much BS. Does every business need to maintain a high end storage network, complete with off-site DR, block level replication, and all the other expensive bells and whistles? Of course not, but to suggest that none do need that level of sophistication is to ignore reality. Likewise, there are various shades of gray between these two extremes. Making a decision about such a fundamental piece of infrastructure using price alone is insane.
The problem is that a TB of enterprise class storage (and backup) isn't $100.
Damn straight. Too bad that all too many users and PHB's forget that adjective and it's importance. Don't get me wrong. I love "the cloud" and it's economy (among it's many virtues) but to assume that this or that commodity service is a good fit for a system that is engineered to meet the security, availability, and management demands of this or that business is just plain stupid.
Yeah, waiting a week to get an expired password reset is precisely what I mean when I say going through IT is slow.
So the obvious solution then, is to allow users to reset their own passwords. Right? Who needs an "administrator" for the access control system? Just give all the users the admin passwords. Right?
Obviously, that's an absurd suggestion, but you've offered nothing in the way of a solution to the problem you describe. Hell, you have not even offered a half-assed analysis of why it takes so long for a password reset. I have not seen things so bad that it took a week to get that done, but I have seen it take hours. That's not acceptable, but poor management resulted in a situation where there were no hands available for "single user" issues, when they were all occupied on issues that impacted multiple users. Blaming "IT" for that condition is short-sighted, to say the least.
I can give you a counter example. We had a Cloud Ops team that had the task to exactly prevent this stuff you described. Great. Except, they didn't even know how to set an EC2 instance with EBS. Also they couldn't provide the EC2 instance types that were needed. So in the end, we just worked around them. Instead of taking *days* to explain them what we needed, we had our EC2 instance running in 5min exactly how we needed it.
Whoever picked/assigned that team failed, because the "team" obviously lacked the skill set required to do the job, just like the developer in GP's example lacked those skills. That's and argument for better training, but hardly an argument for placing the management of IT resources in the hands of end users.
I think the Chinese probably have a lot more to fear from using American technology than the reverse.
Bullshit. When was the last time, no. Make what when have you ever heard of a vendor loading it's network hardware with gear that spies on behalf of the U.S. government? Not that those fuckers don't spy too, but they're a lot more up front about it. "Yeah, we have all the details about every phone call, text, and web search you've ever made. What are you gonna do about it?" Still, that's a far cry from embedding surveillance functionality in my laptop.
No, it's not. Not ever. Caught, or not caught, they still win if they've managed to cow us so much that we give up precious rights.
...or did you just forget that sarcasm tag?
We're the phone company. We don't care what you little people want, need, or think is important. We don't have to. We never did, and we likely never will because you believe that you absolutely must be able to yack and/or text with your BFF, and update your TwitBook status. That all too common pathology will keep you bending over for just about any abuse we or our real customers care to put to you. So shut up and take it, bitches.
'Yeah good morning, I'd like the porn filter on my broadband turned off, please?' 'What, are you some kind of PERVERT?'
And a year or three in the future...
"May it please the court, the state would like to introduce into evidence that the suspect did, in blatant disregard of the welfare of children everywhere, demand that his Internet service provider to remove all child-abuse protection filters from his account."
Wow. It must be nice to live your black and white world. Mine is so many confusing shades of gray that I find that I am just unable to put suitable labels on most people and things.
Not bad for a first try to rein in rogue agency.
We need to keep the pressure on, and support organizations and officials...
Good luck with that. Sure, it's a noble pursuit, but let's face it. The bleating about gun control, gay marriage, and abortion, with the occasional story about who had an illicit sexual encounter, is what really matters to the "the press". It's all about the ratings, not the facts; certainly not the facts around issues that we should be caring about.
We can't have every clever Tom, Dick, and Harry breaking the privacy and security of people's mobile devices and whatnot. That's our job and we'll thank you to not meddle with our business. Besides, your "invention" is clearly a tool for teh terrorists and will be classified as a munition by the end of the week. See if you can "spot the fed" with a black bag over your head.
Your Friends,
The NSA
Clean, safe, inexpensive.
Yep.
Sounds like a cool place full of brave, freedom loving patriots.
Not really. Sounds more like a bunch of puffed up, chest thumping, trash talking rednecks. Still, I hope the out-of-state tags aren't to expensive, because I will buy one, just on principle, .
You're only allowed to use a shotgun firing pellets (lot of good that will do with the drone at altitude), and the bounties paid out are nowhere near a practical amount of money for the effort put in.
Well of course shootin' 'em at altitude makes no sense. Waste of birdshot. And sluicin' 'em (shooting them at rest on the ground) ain't sportin'. That's why I got my brother-in-law working on some decoys right now, and I fired up the ol' cassette recorder to practice my drone callin'. See, you want to catch just as they're coming in low over the decoys.
Might have to find me a bigger bird dog, though.
a completely illegal destruction of government property used illegally?
TFTFY
Whoosh...
why can't we have something like that is usa?
You can. So stop whining and buy some Congressmen. If the telco's can do it, B.F. KS can do it. Right?
9-11 wasn't a car bomb. Why are we trying to stop every possible bad thing?
Yeah, pretty much. Cuz, ya know, the public is a-scared of teh terrorists and we can do anything we want if we add "to prevent terrorism" to the end of it.
I mean, WTF, Google? How did anyone who had any sort of clue at all think that it was acceptable to store data that is critical to my networks' (yes, several) in the clear when you copied it from their Android devices. Again, what the fuck?
From your public servants.
Look, people. If Google, Twitter, Facebook, et al don't need warrants, why the hell should we be required to get them every time we feel the need to violate your privacy?
Regards,
The Feds
Bitcoin reference. Can't let a discussion of currency or precious metals go by without a reference that which is neither.