And a HyperTransport link with 6.4 gigabytes per second of bandwidth (for AGP, PCI, Gigabit, SATA, etc.)
Can do... Apple is a member of the HyperTransport Consortium, and adding 2+2 suggests an equivalent-if-not-HT-proper I/O bus on the speculated 970 Apple MoBos.
The 970 won't be the only 64-bit consumer chip on the market this October.
True enough. I think the poignant argument is that Apple holds all the marbles in the platform arena, leading us to suspect quicker adoption of 64-bit precision on the OS level and API's. It's entirely plausible that if Apple is truly behind the 970, Panther will launch concurrent support for +4Gb memory addresses and 'double' integer strings. Microsoft is still playing the 'shy southern belle' in terms of outlining support for AAx86-64. Sure, the linux camp is already on it, but to be fair you did say "64-bit consumer chip"...
The Mac had a consistent, well-designed interface but it doesn't anymore. One step behind? You mean like the close box being next to all the other boxes on the title bar?
Far more consistent than Windows, far more real estate conservative. Far more ubiquitous in the key-command arena. Far more consistent in application behavior.
Superior color management, IYHO.
No, not merely in HIS honest opinion. In the honest opinion of thousands-upon-thousands of prepress professionals. Answer me this: why do you feel the need to opine upon a technology that you don't use on a regular basis?
The mouse statement is crap. You can get what you want on a PC. On the Mac you have Apple's way or the highway (or should I say superhighway?)
Actually, it's 100% valid. There is no way to set Windows GID input to act as finely resolved as Macintosh GID input when manipulating small clusters of rasters. I will now refer to my question from the previous retort.
What about Apple's increasingly tight grip on what you can and can't do? What about their overpriced hardware? What about their Microsoft-like forced paid upgrades?
Not increasingly tight, not overpriced, not forced. 100% FUD/opinion.
Sure, like a design pro gives a shit about the "blasphemy" that is the Windows Registry. All they know is that their work is done much faster.
Yes, their Windows design workstation can crash much faster when it runs in to Registry/IRQ errors. It can also choke much faster when too many VM pages are thrown at it (i.e. large Photoshop documents)
If you don't want to deal with spyware, don't install programs that have spyware. Like duh.
Like, how the hell am I supposed to automatically know ApplicationX.exe has or doesn't have spyware? Read the EULA?
...and Windows has caught up to Mac OS X in its interface even though it hasn't caught up to classic Mac OS.
Nope, sorry. As was stated above in both this and the Grand-parent post, there are many issues that hamper a Mac-centric poweruser from agreeing with that statement.
-Posted under my account because I know I have a better grasp on the subject matter than you.
What if design pros don't want to have to deal with linear mouse acceleration that makes fine adjustments akin to slow torture?
ROFL! I've been trying to condense the words to sufficiently explain that phenomenon for quite some time now... Great job.
The best I've been able to come up with is: "feels like you're pushing the GID around with a broomstick on minute strokes."
The people that keep thumping the "PC's have every advantage over Macs at this point" tub never appear to be the type of person who ever does fine raster adjustments with a GID... Truly sad.
While this is true moreso today than in years past, the Mac market still constitutes a large enough percentage of Adobe's bottom-line that they would have to be mad to alienate this constituency... And as has been pointed out numerous times already, they haven't really fired any cannon-shots over Apple's bow, merely posted a link to a flawed benchmark.
This is why for some time now I've been advocating that Mac OS/X be ported to the x86 architecture. It's the only way Mac OS/X will be able to run on equal footing to Windows.
Except that any argument in support of this move ignores the fact that IBM's upcoming PowerPC architectures will be truly remarkable implementations of silicon and copper. The 970 and future Power5 'smaller cache, single core' derivative will indubitably shore up any performance gaps between PowerPC-based Apples and x86/x86-64 based Wintels.
It also ignores the fact that the newest PowerPC's are imbued with a practical SIMD execution engine, the instruction set of which is not only heavily leveraged in MacOS X itself, but numerous 3rd party applications. The SSE2/3DNow! engines just don't stack up to AltiVec for widespread usage, and once Apple machines supply a 1.8-2.5Ghz, 200+ simultaneous instruction Integer/fpu core alongside Altivec, the argument for x86 Macintoshes will entirely evaporate.
The choice is clear, evolve or die.
...Which is exactly why a 'small mammal' company like Apple will have no problem surviving well in to the next era of computing, while the great dinosaurs lose species' by the 24-pack (AMD lost how much last fiscal quarter?). Your suggestions are equivalent to urging Apple to evolve towards large, hairless bodies in a period of nuclear winter...
but given the large hold Apple has on design pros and film, this seems like a bad move on Adobe's part.
Not to mention the fact that Photoshop for Windows chokes when you throw too many VM pages at it... Try creating a 1.5 gig canvas and zig-zag a 300 pixel dithered brush from one corner to the other. Even my 500 Mhz G4 is capable of finishing the task without a time-out.
Just yesterday I tried this on a 2.6 Ghz P4/WinXP and got Mr. Hourglass for about 45 seconds 80% of the way through the render...
When you see that this troll has been modded up, it's usually because the AC that posted it has mod points to burn on his futile little crusade... Hence the reason you got smacked down to -1 so quickly.
P.S. I think you might be on the right track with the 'living in the parent's basement' issue, this character manages to tack the same troll to every Apple post within 30 minutes of its posting... Fiscal/Academic Responsibilities = 0.0
LIMBAUGH: "Now I got something for you that's true--1972, Tufts University, Boston. This is 24 years ago--or 22 years ago. Three year study of 5000 co-eds, and they used a benchmark of a bra size of 34C. They found that the--now wait. It's true. The larger the bra-size, the smaller the IQ." (TV show, 5/13/94)
REALITY: Dr. Burton Hallowell, president of Tufts in the '60s and '70s, had "absolutely no recollection" of such a study, according to Tufts' communications office. "I surely would have remembered that!" he exclaimed. Limbaugh's staff was unable to produce any such study. A search of the Nexis database--while revealing no evidence of a Tufts study--did produce a number of women theorizing that the presence of large breasts caused a lowering of IQ in some males.
OK, so I shouldn't have taken the grandparent's claim with a grain of slat? Oh good lord... M$ is pushing its crack on the college kiddies... First hit is free - after that... M$ Licensing 9.0 (bottom of EULA reads: We own your 90ddamned f$cking soul, you mindless sheep sucker-ass punks!)
Sounds like a certain corporation is feeling the pressure from the popularity of OSS on campuses...
I get your drift... My thoughts lead to Toys R Us game title cabinets... You don't really get to see the package design until you go pick it up at the service desk.
In the dozen-or-so CompUSA's I've been to, the PC software titles are arranged by category - sometimes dispersed throughout the store. BestBuy/Wiz/Circuit City kiosks don't get all too much attention from customers. I guess most brick-and-mortar patrons think: "Hey I'm in the store, why do something I could do at home?" which is I guess your general point?
On the other hand, this system would potentially benefit the random customer that comes in saying: "Hey there, sales rep! I purchased a Macintosh a month ago and need small-business inventory management software for it!"
Rather than getting the current response: "Sorry, we don't carry any Mac inventory management titles" they would be directed to the kiosk, get a brief demo if needed, and walk out of the store 20 minutes later with the software. I think these kiosks cover a middle-ground... That of the customer who still needs their hand held (retail environment) yet wants obscure titles. It'll also do wonders for perception of the Mac platform in retail, as people tend to ask about software availability when considering the "switch"... The Apple Sales Consultant would be able to say: "Sure, there are thousands of titles available in just about every category you need - as a matter of fact, you can get most of them right here, right now!"
In any event, I don't think the idea is to entirely supplant and supply the needs of "Joe Title Browser" in an LCD interface, rather extend the retail experience in general (and quickly remedy the fact that Apple titles are relegated to half a shelf in most CompUSA's)
I've done package design in the past, and frankly, it left a sour taste in my mouth... Smoke and Mirrors. "Doesn't matter how much a title sucks once you load it on the system - if it's got the right package design it'll SELL!" Yeccch. I'll be glad to see those days left far, far behind us;)
The benefit of this sytem is that it doesn't neccesarily give 'The Big Boys' a preferential advantage...
A bottom-rung iBook's drive would hold a finite amount of pre-packaged wares; preferential treatment would be neccesary. Any vendor can be represented on one of these kiosks within the same hierarchy as anyone else. Despite the detracting factors, Apple already exhibits preferential behavior with the "Software" directory on an iLife subscriber's iDisk.
Apple seems to be pushing the "Democracy for all developers" angle with these SoftwareToGo kiosks - something pre-loading can never truly accomplish. It would also cause n00bies stress to flit through a list of "what software should I delete" at system setup:P
R.T.F.A. Does not stand for "Reactionary Thoughts For All"... From Apple's SoftwareToGo page:
The two PPS' multi-page product presentation includes screen shots, video/audio demos, text description and system requirements. In each store, the two PPS', with at least one in a prominent end-cap position, are complete with signage and an electronic reader board that scrolls titles housed on the system to attract customers.
...and if we did, I'd say, 'okay, now what? We still have to go on living alone because we can't talk back and forth, so it's even more disappointing to know they exist but are unreachable.
I disagree... If we found a signal we would then be able to pinpoint the origin... Perhaps it eminated from a solar system we wouldn't normally consider hospitable to life (let alone advanced life), a star other than G class. We'd get tremendous insight in to the very nature of life. Eventually, we could send billions of AI envoys in to space, aimed at candidate young stars. The envoys would remain dormant until they reached the system (millions upon millions of years later) at which point they would survey for life. If they don't find signs of emergent life within that system, they move on to the next - ad infinitum.
Suppose your 'consciousness' was within these machines, alongside others who passively scanned their 'consciousnesses' in to the project. Wether or not that part's physically and logically possible is the only drawback of the nice optimistic picture drawn in my mind:)
Why do the yanks always seem to want to change the titles of foreign movies?
That's rich... Just last night I was flipping through the Spanish channels in the UHF range and caught a spot for an upcoming airing of The Frisco Kid... What had they renamed it?
It's amusing that in early 2003 the most common anti-Mac-troll ammunition consists of anonymous sexual orientation potshots.
What's more amusing is that study after study has shown that the most vocal homophobes are more often than not projecting the supression of thier own homosexual thoughts upon 'the other party'... Which leads us to speculate about how this all pertains to the admiration of Apple products...
Being that this hypothetical situation existed +/-8,000 years ago, I would think it near impossible that the river would be 'polluted', as heavy industry was non-existant and [greaterthan]1,000,000-person populations were very scarce.
My fundamental point was that the very fabric of 'civilization' is based upon the act of coming over the hill and thumping the peaceful H. Sapiens that reside there on the head with advanced technology; consequently taking what was theirs as their own.
You can either 'go with the flow' or reject it outright, the choice is yours.
Civilization? So, if I'm living quite contentedly by the side of a beautiful river with an abundance of fish and game, fertile soil for growing grains - and you come over the hill with sharp bronze objects riding on the backs of large four-legged creatures, rape my women and kill my men - the land is now yours?
Is that fair? You go to hell, Homo Sapiens Sapiens!
Get my point? This fundamental system of depravity started +/-40,000 years ago, get used to it.
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Far more consistent than Windows, far more real estate conservative. Far more ubiquitous in the key-command arena. Far more consistent in application behavior. No, not merely in HIS honest opinion. In the honest opinion of thousands-upon-thousands of prepress professionals. Answer me this: why do you feel the need to opine upon a technology that you don't use on a regular basis? Actually, it's 100% valid. There is no way to set Windows GID input to act as finely resolved as Macintosh GID input when manipulating small clusters of rasters. I will now refer to my question from the previous retort. Not increasingly tight, not overpriced, not forced. 100% FUD/opinion. Yes, their Windows design workstation can crash much faster when it runs in to Registry/IRQ errors. It can also choke much faster when too many VM pages are thrown at it (i.e. large Photoshop documents) Like, how the hell am I supposed to automatically know ApplicationX.exe has or doesn't have spyware? Read the EULA? Nope, sorry. As was stated above in both this and the Grand-parent post, there are many issues that hamper a Mac-centric poweruser from agreeing with that statement.
-Posted under my account because I know I have a better grasp on the subject matter than you.
That's not the point... It's simply a good real-world benchmark to inform you how well the app handles Cache and VM.
Dodging/Burning/Wetting a long swatch of a 72" x 72" x 200ppi banner isn't exactly far-fetched, either.
The best I've been able to come up with is: "feels like you're pushing the GID around with a broomstick on minute strokes."
The people that keep thumping the "PC's have every advantage over Macs at this point" tub never appear to be the type of person who ever does fine raster adjustments with a GID... Truly sad.
It also ignores the fact that the newest PowerPC's are imbued with a practical SIMD execution engine, the instruction set of which is not only heavily leveraged in MacOS X itself, but numerous 3rd party applications. The SSE2/3DNow! engines just don't stack up to AltiVec for widespread usage, and once Apple machines supply a 1.8-2.5Ghz, 200+ simultaneous instruction Integer/fpu core alongside Altivec, the argument for x86 Macintoshes will entirely evaporate.
Just yesterday I tried this on a 2.6 Ghz P4/WinXP and got Mr. Hourglass for about 45 seconds 80% of the way through the render...
3: The user shuts it down every night to conserve energy?
4: The computer is located in a California 'Rolling Black-Out' zone (snnnuck)
Word to the wise:
When you see that this troll has been modded up, it's usually because the AC that posted it has mod points to burn on his futile little crusade... Hence the reason you got smacked down to -1 so quickly.
P.S. I think you might be on the right track with the 'living in the parent's basement' issue, this character manages to tack the same troll to every Apple post within 30 minutes of its posting... Fiscal/Academic Responsibilities = 0.0
I don't "hate" anybody.
I do think Rush Limbaugh lies often and distorts the truth.
I also think that anyone who would defend this behavior is truly worthy of pity.
LIMBAUGH: "Now I got something for you that's true--1972, Tufts University, Boston. This is 24 years ago--or 22 years ago. Three year study of 5000 co-eds, and they used a benchmark of a bra size of 34C. They found that the--now wait. It's true. The larger the bra-size, the smaller the IQ." (TV show, 5/13/94)
REALITY: Dr. Burton Hallowell, president of Tufts in the '60s and '70s, had "absolutely no recollection" of such a study, according to Tufts' communications office. "I surely would have remembered that!" he exclaimed. Limbaugh's staff was unable to produce any such study. A search of the Nexis database--while revealing no evidence of a Tufts study--did produce a number of women theorizing that the presence of large breasts caused a lowering of IQ in some males.
Ahh, Unsanity...
The 'RJ Reynolds' of the Mac world... (you pay them to give your system cancer)
'Haven't used a "haxie" since 10.0. Which ones were you using?
OK, so I shouldn't have taken the grandparent's claim with a grain of slat? Oh good lord... M$ is pushing its crack on the college kiddies... First hit is free - after that... M$ Licensing 9.0
(bottom of EULA reads: We own your 90ddamned f$cking soul, you mindless sheep sucker-ass punks!)
Sounds like a certain corporation is feeling the pressure from the popularity of OSS on campuses...
Scary, scary tactic indeed.
I get your drift... My thoughts lead to Toys R Us game title cabinets... You don't really get to see the package design until you go pick it up at the service desk.
;)
In the dozen-or-so CompUSA's I've been to, the PC software titles are arranged by category - sometimes dispersed throughout the store. BestBuy/Wiz/Circuit City kiosks don't get all too much attention from customers. I guess most brick-and-mortar patrons think: "Hey I'm in the store, why do something I could do at home?" which is I guess your general point?
On the other hand, this system would potentially benefit the random customer that comes in saying: "Hey there, sales rep! I purchased a Macintosh a month ago and need small-business inventory management software for it!"
Rather than getting the current response: "Sorry, we don't carry any Mac inventory management titles" they would be directed to the kiosk, get a brief demo if needed, and walk out of the store 20 minutes later with the software. I think these kiosks cover a middle-ground... That of the customer who still needs their hand held (retail environment) yet wants obscure titles. It'll also do wonders for perception of the Mac platform in retail, as people tend to ask about software availability when considering the "switch"... The Apple Sales Consultant would be able to say: "Sure, there are thousands of titles available in just about every category you need - as a matter of fact, you can get most of them right here, right now!"
In any event, I don't think the idea is to entirely supplant and supply the needs of "Joe Title Browser" in an LCD interface, rather extend the retail experience in general (and quickly remedy the fact that Apple titles are relegated to half a shelf in most CompUSA's)
I've done package design in the past, and frankly, it left a sour taste in my mouth... Smoke and Mirrors. "Doesn't matter how much a title sucks once you load it on the system - if it's got the right package design it'll SELL!" Yeccch. I'll be glad to see those days left far, far behind us
Yah, except that Apple has merely partenered with SoftwareToGo on these...
From the looks of their logo and kiosk display, I should hope Apple unleashes the design ninjas on STG's design/marketing department...
If you're having trouble with the image, imagine a hoarde of standard ninjas with "switch" testimonials on the backs of their shinobi shozokos...
The benefit of this sytem is that it doesn't neccesarily give 'The Big Boys' a preferential advantage...
:P
A bottom-rung iBook's drive would hold a finite amount of pre-packaged wares; preferential treatment would be neccesary. Any vendor can be represented on one of these kiosks within the same hierarchy as anyone else. Despite the detracting factors, Apple already exhibits preferential behavior with the "Software" directory on an iLife subscriber's iDisk.
Apple seems to be pushing the "Democracy for all developers" angle with these SoftwareToGo kiosks - something pre-loading can never truly accomplish. It would also cause n00bies stress to flit through a list of "what software should I delete" at system setup
Hey, for all we know our Goatse is a spitting image of their own Rebecca Romijn-Stamos...
Their Goatse might be a kitten hanging from a branch with "Hang in there" written in some foreign tongue to our eyes.
Suppose your 'consciousness' was within these machines, alongside others who passively scanned their 'consciousnesses' in to the project. Wether or not that part's physically and logically possible is the only drawback of the nice optimistic picture drawn in my mind
It's true though... Whenever I find myself in front of an non-tabbed browser pane I start getting the shakes...
The tabs critics should admit that they're nothing more than modern-day prohibitionists!
El Rabino y el Pistolero!!!
It's amusing that in early 2003 the most common anti-Mac-troll ammunition consists of anonymous sexual orientation potshots.
What's more amusing is that study after study has shown that the most vocal homophobes are more often than not projecting the supression of thier own homosexual thoughts upon 'the other party'... Which leads us to speculate about how this all pertains to the admiration of Apple products...
Do not shoot the messenger...
Being that this hypothetical situation existed +/-8,000 years ago, I would think it near impossible that the river would be 'polluted', as heavy industry was non-existant and [greaterthan]1,000,000-person populations were very scarce.
My fundamental point was that the very fabric of 'civilization' is based upon the act of coming over the hill and thumping the peaceful H. Sapiens that reside there on the head with advanced technology; consequently taking what was theirs as their own.
You can either 'go with the flow' or reject it outright, the choice is yours.
Civilization? So, if I'm living quite contentedly by the side of a beautiful river with an abundance of fish and game, fertile soil for growing grains - and you come over the hill with sharp bronze objects riding on the backs of large four-legged creatures, rape my women and kill my men - the land is now yours?
Is that fair? You go to hell, Homo Sapiens Sapiens!
Get my point? This fundamental system of depravity started +/-40,000 years ago, get used to it.