Hey, you can blame your hardware vendor for that. There are ACPI compliant laptops where those work [mine isn't one of them either].
In the case of missing Sata in windows it's not because it's hard to support [obviously Linux has it] it's that windows is trailing edge [and otherwise annoying].
Depends and often no. You can make a page publicly accessible and still retain copyright. What that means is you can license it's distribution. However, provided the fairuse nature of the project I don't see them [legitimately] winning the lawsuit.
The whole point of the archive is to show the progress of the web. It isn't to somehow deprive the copyright holders of lawfully obtainable revenue.
But alas, we must make all honest and pure ideals unlawful. Otherwise the terrorists win...
You're kidding right? All AMD64s support SSE2 and the later cores [like the dual cores] support SSE3.
HT is not an instruction set really [aside from pause,sfence,etc iirc]. But HT is also a bit in cpuid. So just don't enable it if the cpu doesn't support it.
Not only do the AMD processors support SSE but they've kept 3DNOW as well [and the MMX upgrades].
Why are you surprised? AMD has the higher IPC/MIPS design.
Though in this case the solution is simple. Don't buy Intel, don't use ICC. Usually on my P4 I can trick GCC [-fno-regmove comes up] to getting similar performance as ICC v8.
Even then, ICC has good schedulers but performs fewer higher level optimizations. So GCC is usually better in that respect.
you have todo shit with your kids? OMG!!! what was I thinking.. I dunno about you, but my Dad took me along with him to the rental store when I was a kid. Wasn't a huge deal.
My god, to think, you can't just toss your kids in a room of the house then continue on your normal adult life.... what a world. I'm sorry, you must think I'm a monster or something...
Dude, stopped being whipped. You can get your world rocked daily AND go out and have a beer with the buddies.
I hate people who are like that. Devoting every waking moment to one person then when they're gone [say trip or something] they call around desperately to find someone.
And who do they call? Me. Cuz I don't have a girl friend to get obsessive over and I'm usually available.
Well, buddy, this middle finger salute is for you.
I'm not saying I want to go to prison or that I would like it. I'm saying I live a principled life and would rather fight stupidity and ignorance [and arrogance] when duty calls then sit back and take it.
I mean it's a fucking book. I'm sure they're going to still sell 80 million copies or whatever, even if the 15 people who have copies DID blab about it.
So really want they want is
a. Press from filing the injunction [and it makes it more awe inspiring and mysterious]
b. Draconian distribution protection
I was about 10 years too late for the crypto fights of the 90s [I was a teenager then] but I admired the folk like Zimmerman et. al who fought naive stupid politicians who thought they can impose 1950s mentality on the current world.
I'm sure had I been born in the 70s instead of the 80s I'd be on the other end of a governmental inquest as well.
Anyways, it's just harry potter. Let me ruin the book for you.
1. He goes to school. 2. Something spooky happens 3. Instead of going to witch classes he sneaks around with the chick [who he never bangs] and finds some 50 yr older student trapped in a $NOUN. They learn the horrible story of years past. 4. They go looking for the magical $NOUN and upon the way wander into the hideous beast $NOUN 5. They defeat the beast, probably with a mix of magic and harry throwing stones like a girl 6. They get magical $NOUN, harry doesn't get laid and the school year finishes with unicorn house winning the prize.
There, I ruined the book for you.
I mean it's coo that kids read, but this is like what? The 13th fucking book in the series... kids, read another genre for a change!!!
If I got one of those books the first thing I would do is talk about it all over the net.
Rights of the citizens over the rights of the corporations. And if some book store [or movie or whatever] sold me something I thought to be in good faith then too f'ing bad. I'd rather go to jail then have some judge tell me my rights are less important than those of "Harry Potter Publishers Inc." or whatever.
Now it would be different had I known they weren't supposed to be sold, or they were stolen, or copied, or whatever. In that case the sale wasn't in good faith and really if you knew that then too bad.
I mean why stop there? Why not say people who are tech early-adopters can't speak ill [or good but do you think they would care if you spoke well of it] of a product before a certain "advertising blitz" finished...
Yeah seriously.... cuz apparently renting movies is such a pain... you know leaving the house for 5 mins to interact with other humans [even if they work retail they're still human].
Yeah like on getting OSS in the schools and removing the need/desire for pirated crap in the first place.
Or how about just fund post-secondary schooling? People get schooled, get jobs and then can buy the software anyways.
Or why not just give the tax payers a break?
No, you must spend millions of dollars to effective not even dent the piracy scene. They might as well just burn the money [literally] and save effort to prosecute people who are effectively not a significant problem.
It's much easier to blame others than to actually take responsibility.
I don't know about kids now but I stopped getting a fixed allowance when I was 10 [and even then it was only a couple bucks a week, basically enough to go out and buy balsa wood planes or pop or something], had to either beg or work for the things I bought when I was a teenager.
I remember working a few months at Zellers [Canadian version of Walmart] to buy a Cyrix MII computer to call my own...
If the parents just stopped writing off their children they wouldn't have this shit to worry about.
It isn't as if GTA is $5 or something. It usually sells for between 40 and 60 dollars. That's a shit load of cash for a 12 yr old kid.
But furthermore what I hate about these right wing "save the children" groups is
- Kids can't play video games because they will get violent tendencies
but
- War is heroic and patriotic - Must fight the war on $NOUN_OR_OFTEN_VERB
Parents have no problems sending 17, 18, 19 yr old kids off to Iraq to get shot up and permenantly damaged. But if a 15 yr old plays GTA... well that's the end of the free world as we know it.
Also I'm tired of this "kid world" we live in. I pay for cable, not 12 yr old kids. Fuck them. I want tits and explosions and hard core shit on tv. Why should it be all power rangers and FCC censored can't say "fuck" bullshit.
Maybe if all the american teenagers/kids started paying for cable, movies, video games instead of us adults it would be different.
In short, fuck kids and their hyperactive irresponsible parents too.
Yup, moderation being the key. But I know I feel much better when I made the switch from powder ice tea to just plain tap water. That ice tea stuff was literally 99% sugar and totally unhealthy.
I guess people either are "in the know" and are healthy or are ignorant and oblivious to how bad 90% of supermarket food really is. These super fruit/etc drinks they market to kids are often more sugar than anything else.
wtf is -O4 and -O5? The documentation says it goes upto -O3. Have you either read the code or performed benchmarks to see?
And you're right -Os isn't always "slow and small". Basically it's meant to optimize for speed when not in odds with size [e.g. unrolling and inlining are out].
That's just a tradeoff though as the cost of development for a processor with no ooe or assists is higher.
In the case of the xbox/ps3 processors you essentially have to "know your timings". Which isn't a bad thing since from a hardware perspective this gets you more bang per gate.
But to get any sort of high performance out of this the companies are going to have to invest heavily in well optimized libraries to draw from [which is also not a bad thing, but many don't really do this].
So the net effect of a processor [for a single task like gaming] with no ooe/schedulers/etc is if you don't fight the system you end up writing and designing better code that in the long run can pay off [code reuse == time in your pocket].
However, the way to high performance isn't always Ghz. If your cpu runs at 2x the clock but takes 4x the cycles... you're still 2x slower unless you can heavily pipeline all your operations [which isn't always the case and usually isn't].
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The game [without the scenes] is not appropriate for most kids below the age of 16 anyways. So kudos to them for simply sticking an 18y sticker on it.
Now I'm cheering on the british... stupid hyperactive irresponsible american parents... stop making a fuss over nothing.
Tom
Hey, you can blame your hardware vendor for that. There are ACPI compliant laptops where those work [mine isn't one of them either].
In the case of missing Sata in windows it's not because it's hard to support [obviously Linux has it] it's that windows is trailing edge [and otherwise annoying].
Tom
sata works with nvidia4 chipsets in linux just fine.
Solution: Stop being a poser and use a real OS.
Tom
Depends and often no. You can make a page publicly accessible and still retain copyright. What that means is you can license it's distribution. However, provided the fairuse nature of the project I don't see them [legitimately] winning the lawsuit.
The whole point of the archive is to show the progress of the web. It isn't to somehow deprive the copyright holders of lawfully obtainable revenue.
But alas, we must make all honest and pure ideals unlawful. Otherwise the terrorists win...
Tom
Or some simple wood scraps you can find at a home depot or something...
The project is rather unimpressive though... I mean an L joint or two and some cardboard? WOW how innovative and unique!
Next he'll show us his milk-crate sofa and cinderblock tv stand...
Tom
Basically a boring read about putting fans in filled with little content per page and high ad count.
In other words, yet another article spammer...
Tom
You're kidding right? All AMD64s support SSE2 and the later cores [like the dual cores] support SSE3.
HT is not an instruction set really [aside from pause,sfence,etc iirc]. But HT is also a bit in cpuid. So just don't enable it if the cpu doesn't support it.
Not only do the AMD processors support SSE but they've kept 3DNOW as well [and the MMX upgrades].
Tom
Games have themes which are used to give them depth!
See that and more on the Coca-Cola (tm) eleven o'clock news!
Tom
mon dieu c'est horrible. Where do you come up with this stuff?
hehehehe
Tom
Alternatively they could just contribute to the mainline GCC branch and help make the DFAs more accurate.
;-)
Though to be honest, GCC 3.4.4 achieves fewer cycles per operation on my AMD64 then ICC v8 on the Prescott P4.
So I'm happy
Tom
Why are you surprised? AMD has the higher IPC/MIPS design.
Though in this case the solution is simple. Don't buy Intel, don't use ICC. Usually on my P4 I can trick GCC [-fno-regmove comes up] to getting similar performance as ICC v8.
Even then, ICC has good schedulers but performs fewer higher level optimizations. So GCC is usually better in that respect.
Tom
That's about the most awful thing I've read this week.
Thank you for diversity.
Tom
You know what will help industry more than murdering 18 yr old punks who need a schoolin but not a killin?
NOT USING FUCKING INSECURE OPERATING SYSTEMS AND TOOLS!
If the "market" was so worried about security then the fucking market should stop using Windows.
Tom
shit!! i'm sorry. How naive of me.
you have todo shit with your kids? OMG!!! what was I thinking.. I dunno about you, but my Dad took me along with him to the rental store when I was a kid. Wasn't a huge deal.
My god, to think, you can't just toss your kids in a room of the house then continue on your normal adult life.... what a world. I'm sorry, you must think I'm a monster or something...
Tom
Yeah, hehehe *snort* *snort* girlfriend...
Dude, stopped being whipped. You can get your world rocked daily AND go out and have a beer with the buddies.
I hate people who are like that. Devoting every waking moment to one person then when they're gone [say trip or something] they call around desperately to find someone.
And who do they call? Me. Cuz I don't have a girl friend to get obsessive over and I'm usually available.
Well, buddy, this middle finger salute is for you.
Tom
I'm not saying I want to go to prison or that I would like it. I'm saying I live a principled life and would rather fight stupidity and ignorance [and arrogance] when duty calls then sit back and take it.
I mean it's a fucking book. I'm sure they're going to still sell 80 million copies or whatever, even if the 15 people who have copies DID blab about it.
So really want they want is
a. Press from filing the injunction [and it makes it more awe inspiring and mysterious]
b. Draconian distribution protection
I was about 10 years too late for the crypto fights of the 90s [I was a teenager then] but I admired the folk like Zimmerman et. al who fought naive stupid politicians who thought they can impose 1950s mentality on the current world.
I'm sure had I been born in the 70s instead of the 80s I'd be on the other end of a governmental inquest as well.
Anyways, it's just harry potter. Let me ruin the book for you.
1. He goes to school.
2. Something spooky happens
3. Instead of going to witch classes he sneaks around with the chick [who he never bangs] and finds some 50 yr older student trapped in a $NOUN. They learn the horrible story of years past.
4. They go looking for the magical $NOUN and upon the way wander into the hideous beast $NOUN
5. They defeat the beast, probably with a mix of magic and harry throwing stones like a girl
6. They get magical $NOUN, harry doesn't get laid and the school year finishes with unicorn house winning the prize.
There, I ruined the book for you.
I mean it's coo that kids read, but this is like what? The 13th fucking book in the series... kids, read another genre for a change!!!
Tom
you [inside] ====> door ====> outside
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\--> Life happens here.
If I got one of those books the first thing I would do is talk about it all over the net.
Rights of the citizens over the rights of the corporations. And if some book store [or movie or whatever] sold me something I thought to be in good faith then too f'ing bad. I'd rather go to jail then have some judge tell me my rights are less important than those of "Harry Potter Publishers Inc." or whatever.
Now it would be different had I known they weren't supposed to be sold, or they were stolen, or copied, or whatever. In that case the sale wasn't in good faith and really if you knew that then too bad.
I mean why stop there? Why not say people who are tech early-adopters can't speak ill [or good but do you think they would care if you spoke well of it] of a product before a certain "advertising blitz" finished...
Tom
Yeah seriously.... cuz apparently renting movies is such a pain... you know leaving the house for 5 mins to interact with other humans [even if they work retail they're still human].
Tom
Yeah like on getting OSS in the schools and removing the need/desire for pirated crap in the first place.
Or how about just fund post-secondary schooling? People get schooled, get jobs and then can buy the software anyways.
Or why not just give the tax payers a break?
No, you must spend millions of dollars to effective not even dent the piracy scene. They might as well just burn the money [literally] and save effort to prosecute people who are effectively not a significant problem.
Tom
It's much easier to blame others than to actually take responsibility.
... well that's the end of the free world as we know it.
I don't know about kids now but I stopped getting a fixed allowance when I was 10 [and even then it was only a couple bucks a week, basically enough to go out and buy balsa wood planes or pop or something], had to either beg or work for the things I bought when I was a teenager.
I remember working a few months at Zellers [Canadian version of Walmart] to buy a Cyrix MII computer to call my own...
If the parents just stopped writing off their children they wouldn't have this shit to worry about.
It isn't as if GTA is $5 or something. It usually sells for between 40 and 60 dollars. That's a shit load of cash for a 12 yr old kid.
But furthermore what I hate about these right wing "save the children" groups is
- Kids can't play video games because they will get violent tendencies
but
- War is heroic and patriotic
- Must fight the war on $NOUN_OR_OFTEN_VERB
Parents have no problems sending 17, 18, 19 yr old kids off to Iraq to get shot up and permenantly damaged. But if a 15 yr old plays GTA
Also I'm tired of this "kid world" we live in. I pay for cable, not 12 yr old kids. Fuck them. I want tits and explosions and hard core shit on tv. Why should it be all power rangers and FCC censored can't say "fuck" bullshit.
Maybe if all the american teenagers/kids started paying for cable, movies, video games instead of us adults it would be different.
In short, fuck kids and their hyperactive irresponsible parents too.
Tom
Yeah the ISA is a bit of a pain but compared to 4 to 8 byte opcodes of the typical risc the x86 isn't that far off...
add rax,rbx --- 3 bytes [x86_64]
lea rax,[rbx+rcx] --- ~4 bytes [x86_64]
add r0,r1,r1 --- 4 bytes [ARM, MIPS, PPC]
Sure some RISC ISAs are a bit nicer but they're not that much better.
Than you look at the fact that the IPC of the AMD64 is "a shit load higher" than that of the MIPS or ARM...
Then you look into the fact that the AMD64 takes less power than a P4/Xeon...
The AMD64 is well placed in desktop computers. It's not the lowest power consumption core but it's at least the fastest as far as IPC is concerned.
It's MIPS/watts ratio beats Intel designs and it's simple MIPS rating is higher than anything MIPS/ARM offer.
So if you need a lot of MIPS in a desktop, it doesn't make sense to use anything but an AMD64...
If you need elegance, small and lower MIPS/power then use an ARM.
If you want to create a second sun use an Intel.
Tom
Yup, moderation being the key. But I know I feel much better when I made the switch from powder ice tea to just plain tap water. That ice tea stuff was literally 99% sugar and totally unhealthy.
I guess people either are "in the know" and are healthy or are ignorant and oblivious to how bad 90% of supermarket food really is. These super fruit/etc drinks they market to kids are often more sugar than anything else.
Tom
wtf is -O4 and -O5? The documentation says it goes upto -O3. Have you either read the code or performed benchmarks to see?
And you're right -Os isn't always "slow and small". Basically it's meant to optimize for speed when not in odds with size [e.g. unrolling and inlining are out].
Tom
That's just a tradeoff though as the cost of development for a processor with no ooe or assists is higher.
... you're still 2x slower unless you can heavily pipeline all your operations [which isn't always the case and usually isn't].
In the case of the xbox/ps3 processors you essentially have to "know your timings". Which isn't a bad thing since from a hardware perspective this gets you more bang per gate.
But to get any sort of high performance out of this the companies are going to have to invest heavily in well optimized libraries to draw from [which is also not a bad thing, but many don't really do this].
So the net effect of a processor [for a single task like gaming] with no ooe/schedulers/etc is if you don't fight the system you end up writing and designing better code that in the long run can pay off [code reuse == time in your pocket].
However, the way to high performance isn't always Ghz. If your cpu runs at 2x the clock but takes 4x the cycles
Tom