Hey tepples -- I notice you have the habit of going around and making totally random "What If" responses to people's posts. Why don't you just make a root-level post with whatever's up your butt and stop with your stupid hypothetical questions?
One can easily buy a $500 computer that will play every PC game currently sold. The graphics might not be as good as the PS3 but it's not like a $500 gaming computer is some sort of impossibility.
In my brief scan of the ruling here, that's not what happened. The judge ruled that iTMS was a "data service" which was covered by the original contract.
IMO, this is standard sort of contract dispute, nothing grandiose about "rights" to it.
Well it doesn't really matter, because the trademarks are governed by a contract between the companies. Apple Corp could do nothing and still hold Apple Computer to whatever they agreed to.
Not required, optional. If Apple had a mouse-button mapping facility in the OS, you would never need to download anything from Microsoft except for the really crazy models.
And my Crash-A-Mac mouse is a generic model (says "IBM" but not really) that has wierd problems on PCs as well.
Newsflash: I don't care one bit about Apple Computers.
OK, then just Spaz Attack!
As in you got very hyper about what is basically a routine corporate legal matter that just happens to involve a company beloved by many fanboys.
And that relevant... how, exactly? Is this a case of "Apple Computer acts like a bunch of assholes now and then, therefore this lawsuit against them was justified!"?
IMO, the lawsuit was justified on merits. But Apple does have a double-standard about trademarks -- they push the line on everyone else's (UNIX, Apple Corp, TigerDirect), but are very aggressive about defending their own. AppleCorp is not acting any differently than Apple Computer would in a similar situation.
You can't just compare Apples to Apples anymore, so to speek.
The problem is that Conroe is designed to go into $800 Dell systems. Apple could use it for midline models, but for a $2000 machine they better be using Xeon/Woodcrest to stay competitive with other PC vendors at that price point.
Yes, you're absolutely right! Microsoft made a special mouse designed to crash Macintoshes. Of course!
Funny, you make a offhanded comment about Macs crashing and the fanboy loons come out of the woodwork.
And all MS mice are standard HID devices, so no special driver should be required. It's not like USB failings of older versions of OSX weren't well documented around the web.
But last time I checked, selling music to consumers does not equal "music-business".
Even you admit that it hinged on a point of interpretation. Put yourself in Apple Corp's shoes and it's quite easy to see how they believed they had a case and weren't simply being "money-hungry". (As if Apple Computer isn't.)
Oh, and I guarantee that if you were to start a business with "Apple" in the name that even had the slightest theoretical overlap with Apple Computer, they would do everything in their power to stomp you.
Maybe if Apple Corps had actually participated materially in the market in the last thirty years
A couple years ago, Apple Corp released a "new" Beatles song that hit #1 in the charts. They might not be a particularlly active company, but they aren't defunct by any means.
I've seen OS X kernel panic after plugging in a funky USB mouse, and when a SMB share suddenly disappears. These are both cases which a real microkernel could in theory recover from. So I don't believe there's any particular "reliability" in the OS X design.
Similarly when Jobs (who isn't an engineer but clearly has natural talent for design) was running Apple it soared. When a "career manager" took over it sunk like a stone (3 times).
Woah!! Screwy History. Both Spindler and Amelio came from an engineering background. (Amelio has a PHd in Physics and was a Bell Labs scientist.) JL Gasse came from an engineering background and he did more damage to the company than any CEO.
Scully was all marketing, but Apple also made record profits under much of his tenure, ahd he very successfully defined the Brand strategy that Apple uses to this day. And despite whatever natural talents and successes, Steve Jobs is a marketer and a "career manager" and not an engineer.
Of course Apple != HP becaus Apple has always relied on top-flight marketing more than product engineering, so there's never really be a big strategy shift.
Right -- supposedly Mini is the loss-leader that brings in store traffic who then get upsold to the iMac. But given that, it makes no sense whatsoever to raise the price on the things. Stick a Celeron in there and sell 'em for $400 or don't bother.
Apple is effectively outsourcing the design of its hardware, of which much innovation and creativity were well received in the marketplace.
Well recieved in the marketplace 10-15 years ago maybe. Apple's recent system design has pretty much been uncompetitive and basically full of low-end PC components anyway. They last time they built a truely "best-in-class" system was in the PMac 8600 era.
I wonder how long Apple is going to produce PowerPC based macines, which is, really to ask, how long until the PowerMacs are replaced.
Now that Apple's on Intel, you don't really have to sit around wondering these things. Conroe (Intel Core Desktop CPU) and Woodcrest (Intel Core Workstation/Server CPU aka Xeon) will be out in Q3 2006, which is perfect timing for Apple's Developer Conference in in August.
If have any questions about Intel's roadmap, check out http://www.theinquirer.net/ , their information is usually spot on. It is a safe assumption that Apple will adopt Intel chips as they come out just as Dell and everyone else does.
The very moment Linus said "we'll abandon the odd-inestable even-stable release cycle; I want the distributions fixing the kernel while we work on new features" is the moment current situation came to live.
You've made a very insightful analysis of politics of Linux development, but let's face it -- the old even/odd system wasn't working at all and had become a complete joke. The distributors had completely forked Linux 2.4 and built-in all the sexy 2.6 features. Linus/kernel.org was faced with changing their methodology or becoming irrelevant.
The rewrite happened after it had already lost to IE. And besides that, it didn't go from "90% market share to 1%."
Nutscrape still had ~60% marketshare when they cancelled NS5 and started the rewrite. IE had a lot of momentum, but wasn't close to winning until Netscape went hari-kari. If you excluded AOL, IE only had about 20% share in 1998.
If you tried to stick a One-Button Laptop on my desk as my primary PC, I'd make a political stink about as well.
I like the MacBook a lot, but I just don't see this machine seriously positioned for the non-Mac market yet. Put a decent keyboard and mouse on the thing, and give it a docking station, and then it would be in the same class as ThinkPad for corporate installs. I'm also ignorant about Apple's support policies in this market.
$100 more expensive is a lot in the low-end segment where prices are falling, not rising.
The strong point of the Mini is supposedly it's small form-factor. But since you can get an entire P-M/CoreSolo laptop for $600, the mini can't even compete on size anymore.
This is Classic Apple, where their low-end products end up as neither good nor cheap. If they can't make a Mini for under $500, there's really no point. Instead, they should just make a decent $800 Pizzabox Core-Due computer with a PCI-E slot.
(I should point out that analysts believe that the G4 Mini sold very poorly, and IMO the Intel Mini isn't any more attractive.)
number of IIS viruses being greater than the number of Apache viruses, even though Apache has a significantly larger market share.
That's mainly because Internet Marketshare statistics are irrelevant here. IIS runs millions and millions of machines (Intranet, Fileservers, Workstations, etc) that aren't counted in the stats, but still make it a fat target for virues.
Uh, yeah it was. I never said you should buy a PC for gaming. If you like console-style games, buy a console. Seems obvious.
Hey tepples -- I notice you have the habit of going around and making totally random "What If" responses to people's posts. Why don't you just make a root-level post with whatever's up your butt and stop with your stupid hypothetical questions?
One can easily buy a $500 computer that will play every PC game currently sold. The graphics might not be as good as the PS3 but it's not like a $500 gaming computer is some sort of impossibility.
In my brief scan of the ruling here, that's not what happened. The judge ruled that iTMS was a "data service" which was covered by the original contract.
IMO, this is standard sort of contract dispute, nothing grandiose about "rights" to it.
Well it doesn't really matter, because the trademarks are governed by a contract between the companies. Apple Corp could do nothing and still hold Apple Computer to whatever they agreed to.
Not required, optional. If Apple had a mouse-button mapping facility in the OS, you would never need to download anything from Microsoft except for the really crazy models.
And my Crash-A-Mac mouse is a generic model (says "IBM" but not really) that has wierd problems on PCs as well.
Newsflash: I don't care one bit about Apple Computers.
OK, then just Spaz Attack!
As in you got very hyper about what is basically a routine corporate legal matter that just happens to involve a company beloved by many fanboys.
And that relevant... how, exactly? Is this a case of "Apple Computer acts like a bunch of assholes now and then, therefore this lawsuit against them was justified!"?
IMO, the lawsuit was justified on merits. But Apple does have a double-standard about trademarks -- they push the line on everyone else's (UNIX, Apple Corp, TigerDirect), but are very aggressive about defending their own. AppleCorp is not acting any differently than Apple Computer would in a similar situation.
Not really, because the Americans kept the name "Bud" which is what they really wanted.
You can't just compare Apples to Apples anymore, so to speek.
The problem is that Conroe is designed to go into $800 Dell systems. Apple could use it for midline models, but for a $2000 machine they better be using Xeon/Woodcrest to stay competitive with other PC vendors at that price point.
Yes, you're absolutely right! Microsoft made a special mouse designed to crash Macintoshes. Of course!
Funny, you make a offhanded comment about Macs crashing and the fanboy loons come out of the woodwork.
And all MS mice are standard HID devices, so no special driver should be required. It's not like USB failings of older versions of OSX weren't well documented around the web.
Whoa -- Fanboy Spaz Attack!
But last time I checked, selling music to consumers does not equal "music-business".
Even you admit that it hinged on a point of interpretation. Put yourself in Apple Corp's shoes and it's quite easy to see how they believed they had a case and weren't simply being "money-hungry". (As if Apple Computer isn't.)
Oh, and I guarantee that if you were to start a business with "Apple" in the name that even had the slightest theoretical overlap with Apple Computer, they would do everything in their power to stomp you.
Maybe if Apple Corps had actually participated materially in the market in the last thirty years
A couple years ago, Apple Corp released a "new" Beatles song that hit #1 in the charts. They might not be a particularlly active company, but they aren't defunct by any means.
I've seen OS X kernel panic after plugging in a funky USB mouse, and when a SMB share suddenly disappears. These are both cases which a real microkernel could in theory recover from. So I don't believe there's any particular "reliability" in the OS X design.
Well, Tanenbaum was wrong about Sparc and GNU, but PCs shipping in 1996 did usually have 64MB and roughly 200 "VAX MIPS". So pretty good guess, I say.
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Similarly when Jobs (who isn't an engineer but clearly has natural talent for design) was running Apple it soared. When a "career manager" took over it sunk like a stone (3 times).
Woah!! Screwy History. Both Spindler and Amelio came from an engineering background. (Amelio has a PHd in Physics and was a Bell Labs scientist.) JL Gasse came from an engineering background and he did more damage to the company than any CEO.
Scully was all marketing, but Apple also made record profits under much of his tenure, ahd he very successfully defined the Brand strategy that Apple uses to this day. And despite whatever natural talents and successes, Steve Jobs is a marketer and a "career manager" and not an engineer.
Of course Apple != HP becaus Apple has always relied on top-flight marketing more than product engineering, so there's never really be a big strategy shift.
Right -- supposedly Mini is the loss-leader that brings in store traffic who then get upsold to the iMac. But given that, it makes no sense whatsoever to raise the price on the things. Stick a Celeron in there and sell 'em for $400 or don't bother.
Apple is effectively outsourcing the design of its hardware, of which much innovation and creativity were well received in the marketplace.
Well recieved in the marketplace 10-15 years ago maybe. Apple's recent system design has pretty much been uncompetitive and basically full of low-end PC components anyway. They last time they built a truely "best-in-class" system was in the PMac 8600 era.
I wonder how long Apple is going to produce PowerPC based macines, which is, really to ask, how long until the PowerMacs are replaced.
Now that Apple's on Intel, you don't really have to sit around wondering these things. Conroe (Intel Core Desktop CPU) and Woodcrest (Intel Core Workstation/Server CPU aka Xeon) will be out in Q3 2006, which is perfect timing for Apple's Developer Conference in in August.
If have any questions about Intel's roadmap, check out http://www.theinquirer.net/ , their information is usually spot on. It is a safe assumption that Apple will adopt Intel chips as they come out just as Dell and everyone else does.
The very moment Linus said "we'll abandon the odd-inestable even-stable release cycle; I want the distributions fixing the kernel while we work on new features" is the moment current situation came to live.
You've made a very insightful analysis of politics of Linux development, but let's face it -- the old even/odd system wasn't working at all and had become a complete joke. The distributors had completely forked Linux 2.4 and built-in all the sexy 2.6 features. Linus/kernel.org was faced with changing their methodology or becoming irrelevant.
The rewrite happened after it had already lost to IE. And besides that, it didn't go from "90% market share to 1%."
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Nutscrape still had ~60% marketshare when they cancelled NS5 and started the rewrite. IE had a lot of momentum, but wasn't close to winning until Netscape went hari-kari. If you excluded AOL, IE only had about 20% share in 1998.
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See my other post. Due to the default permissions, you can trojan a Mac system without any need for entering a password.
> Networked macs have no ports open by default.
They do if you're doing anything with them other than surfing the web.
If you tried to stick a One-Button Laptop on my desk as my primary PC, I'd make a political stink about as well.
I like the MacBook a lot, but I just don't see this machine seriously positioned for the non-Mac market yet. Put a decent keyboard and mouse on the thing, and give it a docking station, and then it would be in the same class as ThinkPad for corporate installs. I'm also ignorant about Apple's support policies in this market.
$100 more expensive is a lot in the low-end segment where prices are falling, not rising.
The strong point of the Mini is supposedly it's small form-factor. But since you can get an entire P-M/CoreSolo laptop for $600, the mini can't even compete on size anymore.
This is Classic Apple, where their low-end products end up as neither good nor cheap. If they can't make a Mini for under $500, there's really no point. Instead, they should just make a decent $800 Pizzabox Core-Due computer with a PCI-E slot.
(I should point out that analysts believe that the G4 Mini sold very poorly, and IMO the Intel Mini isn't any more attractive.)
Sez you. But POWER is still an IBM trademark, and it would not suprise me if Apple had signed away their rights to the term.
number of IIS viruses being greater than the number of Apache viruses, even though Apache has a significantly larger market share.
That's mainly because Internet Marketshare statistics are irrelevant here. IIS runs millions and millions of machines (Intranet, Fileservers, Workstations, etc) that aren't counted in the stats, but still make it a fat target for virues.