Not really, because unlike today, car stereos in the 80s and especially in the 90s were a standard DIN size (or double din or what have you). ( iso 7736 in fact! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... )
Now-a-days stereos are built into the dash in whateevr configuration the car maker chooses but they used to be standard and easily replaceable. I had zero knowledge of cars or electricity when i was 17 but stil managed to replace my parents tape deck with a cd player in the 90s.
So its not a real reason to keep dealing with the headaches of audio cassettes. You can drop an mp3 playing stereo in your 80s-90s car for like 50 bucks. People don't even steal them anymore they are so cheap.
Do you really remember cassette tapes then? I remember them breaking frequently, getting unspooled, or warping so that parts of the tape were slooowwer than others. They were completely lossy with subsequent copies always losing something from the original. They needed to be copied in real time, unless you had one of those fancy stereos that copied tapes quickly. Forget what that was called and it wouldn't apply to recording things off the radio. Transmitting analog radio is a quality loss all by itself!
That and you had to edit out commercials on mix tapes, and do all your cuts just right perfectly or their would be extra sounds that you didnt want. If you erased over teh same area too many times weird things would happen to the sound and the tape would degrade in that spot. Saying that dealing with all that is easier than editing using audacity, and listening using mp3s is laughably nostalgic.
We used audio tapes becuase that was the best medium at the time, it was pretty simple for people to use and cheap. But there were so many downside to the process of using tapes that dwarf any benefit they had over mp3s. There is no benefit actually that I can think of. Name one.
I remember a similar auction being written about in the new yorker. Was very interesting. This particular dinosaur only is found in mongolia so virtually every one has been smuggled out illegally. The article covers an american collector who swares that he didn't smuggle it out of china, but it ruined or nearly ruined him simply being in possession of it!
Your not only supporting thieves but violently supporting them. If you did some contract work and the company or individual did not pay you what they promised, you don't think you'd have the right to complain about that in public?
Is it classy? No, but honestly I dont get into situations where I don't pay my bills, so I don't really empathize with deadbeats. In america, maybe that's harder to do because you don't have state sponsored health care, but this is canada we are talking about.
Unless you bought an optiplex 780 as pretty much every one of those has defective power supplies that fails due to bad caps just after that 3 year warranty is up. Sure you can re do all the caps if you are handy with a soldering iron, but a replacement powersupply is "custom" and you need to buy from dell at $140 for ~400w. Yes they did eventually improve their design on the new ones.
"And what if a pre-assembled PC is cheaper than your custom built PC by $300-$400 provided certain minor things are inferior to your custom PC? "
Then I would assume that those "minor things" really add up to features worth $300-$400.
One can easily see processor prices, ram prices, to compare. If you pay cheaper assembled for the same components not assembled, they would be losing money!
You are paying for pre-assembled name and perceived quality, and most importantly turn key convenience, on top of thier profit margins of course. There is no way it would be cheaper. I worked assembling PCs and CPUs are not *that* much cheaper in bulk. Maybe if you are dealing in tens of thousands of CPUs, but why would the company give up all that profit? You are paying for a service, no way its going to be cheaper.
Another way to think of it is like oil changes. Sure you can go down to the local garage and get an oil change for $30 bucks. However you get their cheapest margins filter, cheapest oil, and they get to look and see what problems are under your car and recommend solutions (@ their prices). Your car will probably still work when they are done and run fine. So many people choose this option. Doesn't mean its cheaper for the same components, because its usually not an apples to apples comparison @ their price points.
If you want to get the good oil, good filter, they will charge you more for that. Might as well do it yourself (buy oil, quality oil filters, or computer hardware, when its on sale). If you have the skills and care about quality of components, then its the only way to do things. Plus you get to look over the rest of the machine for other problems or targets of opportunity. As opposed to a technican doing that, who may or may not be correct in their diagnosis. May or may not be honest with you.
I can never again hear 'start me up' by the rolling stones without cringing due to windows 95 memories and the many parodies of the song that followed. I have a similar experience with 'come together' which will forever be in my mind as "the nortel networks song".
Marketing sure is sick. i can hear them both, plain as day, 20 years later!
"Even if that observer is us, in the future, moving backwards."
aw fuck dude, i should not have just watched back to the future 2 and smoked a bunch of weed before reading that.
We see the past, so its there. I think so I am, makes it so. Life and the universe is an invented illusion, and that is reality. I cant say i know enough quantum mechanics to all but interpret wildly on what you said though.
"No smartphone, no facebook, no google, no nothing. Go live in some cabin in the woods without electricity."
Those are a few horrible fads and hardly constitute a regression from civilized society. There was a time when putting your real name on-line would get you laughed off of slashdot. sad.
Yeah, chrome killing support for napia plugins has made a java remote appliance stop working the same way, a building lighting control system built on silverlight to stop working, and an hvac systems web interface. And thats just the building I work in....
Right now, everyone is hoping microsoft or oracle or whomever will update plugins so that they work again in chrome. IETAB is a work around, however it sucks ass that internal tools firewalled off from the internet also get shafted. Upgrades for these kind of systems aren't cheap either.
And require a crack to get working properly? Why would anyone still use that crap. As everyone else has said, 7-zip has I thought, been standard for like 5 years, which is eternity in internet time... Do the slashdot editors still use winrar or something because they are stuck in the glory days of yore?
That, or they really are out of tune with the windows software scene.
Seriously, my mousewheel starts smoking whenever one of these new web 3.0 pages come up. Scrolling scrolling scrolling forever. Who the hell likes these things>? Is there something so wrong with embeded images? does every page have to be some downward scrolling adventure? its just supposed to be a god damn article!!!
Thanks for the list. I had two of the updates, however i am not seeing any hidden or $ folders on my hard drive at all. where specifically are they located? the root of c:\? Perhaps when i initially uninstalled the nag windows update i protected myself?
Pretty much. Its about applications and for "IT pro's" its probably about what they have to support in the workplace as well. I love linux on the server, (LTS releases ONLY), but on the desktop? Last time i tried it was all about lack of software, and length of configuration time for something I am less familiar with.
With linux there is 1 program that one guy maintains that does what you want in one way. If you want variety, hey just program that shit up! On windows, there are tens to hundreds of programmes that do what you want, no coding required. Some pay, some free, the best ones are open source of course.
So I guess I am not sure what desktop linux users complain about. Android is the most popular phone OS, and OSX is UNIX... So pretty much everywhere is *NIX already in 2015. I can name a dozen popular open source tools that I use every day, so even the linux philosophy has thoroughly permeated many windows users. (windirstat, thunderbird, putty, filezilla, dban, rufus, firefox, notepad++, vnc, media player classic, vlc, xibo... and many more)
The only reason that there are not more desktop linux installs is that MS and office are considered business standard. Business people (including most IT people I have met) like that most of the technology works out of the box and is point and click, thus saving time and headaches. Office workers want the os that they are familiar with from work, at home. You would need to retrain the entire world for that to change, and no ones going to pay for that.
"You can't steal what is given away, and the law says that if you leave stuff lying around on purpose, that you're in a grey area. Specifically, by leaving it on the side of the road without any sort of permit, you're littering"
And this my friends, is why it survived in canada and europe for months but NOT the usa for more than a few weeks.
You talk so much mr poo, that you give away the real truth with your comment without even realizing it. That is why it was damaged in america in short order, because americans think exactly like this comment.
Reminds me of eve online. But more responsive! Thats a really amazing project. Congrats. Makes sense that there are only 40 comments. All the real cool stuff never gets any attention round here...
You obviously haven't played any system stressing games... Most games are not multiuthreaded, so do not benefit from AMD's main competitive edge. Not to mention AMD chips run hotter and use more power than a comparable intel. Never a good sign of good design .
Then you imply that intel rigged ALL the benchmarks they are in because there is a conspiracy and the US DOJ should get involved....
Like this right, this is rigged by intel? http://www.cpubenchmark.net/hi... (The first AMD cpu ranks in at 59th... with double the cores of the nearest i7)
The pendulum switches back and forth all the time, no point in being a fanboy for either franchise. Intel has been dominating since core 2 duo / core 2 quad and they continue to do so. I had dual opterons before that. Brand loyal is stupid, benchmarks cant all lie.
8.1 is not nerely as stable as windows 7. Do you have any microsoft surface devices? I too have had update related problems, as well as directaccess vpn foobaring itself, graphics bugs, network funnyness such as drives dropping randomly offline and just general instability requiring reboots. We have about 20 machines with win8 compared to 100s with win7 and the win8 machines definitely have more issues, sorry to say.
Its always good to be extremely apprehensive about windows releases. If you remember all the way back to win95, it was garbage till SR2. Then theres windows ME, vista, windows CE (nightmares, cold sweats....). I wouldnt touch ten for at least the first year. Suckers can do what they want. I can ALWAYS upgrade later! no harm to me!
are you saying XP is better in the enterprise? You are high or in some dinosaur industry. If you haven't moved all your PC's off XP yet you are doomed!
The problems you complain about can be solved by group policy. How many regular users have to swtich Domains they log into... come on.
Who BROWSES a windows network? Not any sort of enterprise. Why would someone do that? The admin sets the drives,. printers, etc you need based on your location and function.
XP is garbage. Its like saying you want to use win98 in these days. If you have modern touch screen devices, you almost have to use windows 8. I find win8 less stable than windows 7 but windows 7 is surely just as stable as windows 2000.
2008-2012 server for WDS imaging is indespensible. Support for solid state drives, native 64 bit being normal. That anyone could prefer XP over windows 7 in this day either needs to retire right now, or at least will be covered over by the blowing sand soon enough!
Do you think he also did all the HVAC control work? crawling through the 19 schools ceilings, installing sensors, calibrating equipment?
Or do you think they asked the only kid who knew anything about these new fangled computers to read the manual and "programme" the system.
There are a million assumptions that people are making in the comments. I can control my buildings HVAC and security from my desk. Does that mean it was free to get it to that point? Everyone is focusing on the kid who works with the system. BFD, any facilities maintenance worker can programme an BACnet type system to the degree they wish to learn about it!
Yes and companies never would lie, change their minds, or decide that maybe they shouldn't be giving away their main cash cow for free. Take a look at god damn apple to see where microsoft wants to be in 5 years.
Its pretty fucking simple. They don't sell hardware, they dont sell services. How the fuck are they going to make money giving away their shit for free? Its a bait and switch, its a crack dealer and comments like this AC are naive crack whores. Shits gonna change, and everyone else is doing it.
"They've explicitly stated this."
Obama explicitly stated that he would reign in the NSA. Lying is fucking commonplace when your society has a collective memory only 140 characters deep.
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Not really, because unlike today, car stereos in the 80s and especially in the 90s were a standard DIN size (or double din or what have you). ( iso 7736 in fact! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... )
Now-a-days stereos are built into the dash in whateevr configuration the car maker chooses but they used to be standard and easily replaceable. I had zero knowledge of cars or electricity when i was 17 but stil managed to replace my parents tape deck with a cd player in the 90s.
So its not a real reason to keep dealing with the headaches of audio cassettes. You can drop an mp3 playing stereo in your 80s-90s car for like 50 bucks. People don't even steal them anymore they are so cheap.
Do you really remember cassette tapes then? I remember them breaking frequently, getting unspooled, or warping so that parts of the tape were slooowwer than others. They were completely lossy with subsequent copies always losing something from the original. They needed to be copied in real time, unless you had one of those fancy stereos that copied tapes quickly. Forget what that was called and it wouldn't apply to recording things off the radio. Transmitting analog radio is a quality loss all by itself!
That and you had to edit out commercials on mix tapes, and do all your cuts just right perfectly or their would be extra sounds that you didnt want. If you erased over teh same area too many times weird things would happen to the sound and the tape would degrade in that spot. Saying that dealing with all that is easier than editing using audacity, and listening using mp3s is laughably nostalgic.
We used audio tapes becuase that was the best medium at the time, it was pretty simple for people to use and cheap. But there were so many downside to the process of using tapes that dwarf any benefit they had over mp3s. There is no benefit actually that I can think of. Name one.
I remember a similar auction being written about in the new yorker. Was very interesting. This particular dinosaur only is found in mongolia so virtually every one has been smuggled out illegally. The article covers an american collector who swares that he didn't smuggle it out of china, but it ruined or nearly ruined him simply being in possession of it!
http://www.newyorker.com/magaz...
Wow your always on the wrong side of things.
Your not only supporting thieves but violently supporting them. If you did some contract work and the company or individual did not pay you what they promised, you don't think you'd have the right to complain about that in public?
Is it classy? No, but honestly I dont get into situations where I don't pay my bills, so I don't really empathize with deadbeats. In america, maybe that's harder to do because you don't have state sponsored health care, but this is canada we are talking about.
I dont usually complain about articles but what the fuck slashdot
I was actually interested in this shit! that article says no fucking thing.
Unless you bought an optiplex 780 as pretty much every one of those has defective power supplies that fails due to bad caps just after that 3 year warranty is up. Sure you can re do all the caps if you are handy with a soldering iron, but a replacement powersupply is "custom" and you need to buy from dell at $140 for ~400w. Yes they did eventually improve their design on the new ones.
Then I would assume that those "minor things" really add up to features worth $300-$400.
One can easily see processor prices, ram prices, to compare. If you pay cheaper assembled for the same components not assembled, they would be losing money!
You are paying for pre-assembled name and perceived quality, and most importantly turn key convenience, on top of thier profit margins of course. There is no way it would be cheaper. I worked assembling PCs and CPUs are not *that* much cheaper in bulk. Maybe if you are dealing in tens of thousands of CPUs, but why would the company give up all that profit? You are paying for a service, no way its going to be cheaper.
Another way to think of it is like oil changes. Sure you can go down to the local garage and get an oil change for $30 bucks. However you get their cheapest margins filter, cheapest oil, and they get to look and see what problems are under your car and recommend solutions (@ their prices). Your car will probably still work when they are done and run fine. So many people choose this option. Doesn't mean its cheaper for the same components, because its usually not an apples to apples comparison @ their price points.
If you want to get the good oil, good filter, they will charge you more for that. Might as well do it yourself (buy oil, quality oil filters, or computer hardware, when its on sale). If you have the skills and care about quality of components, then its the only way to do things. Plus you get to look over the rest of the machine for other problems or targets of opportunity. As opposed to a technican doing that, who may or may not be correct in their diagnosis. May or may not be honest with you.
I can never again hear 'start me up' by the rolling stones without cringing due to windows 95 memories and the many parodies of the song that followed. I have a similar experience with 'come together' which will forever be in my mind as "the nortel networks song".
Marketing sure is sick. i can hear them both, plain as day, 20 years later!
aw fuck dude, i should not have just watched back to the future 2 and smoked a bunch of weed before reading that.
We see the past, so its there. I think so I am, makes it so. Life and the universe is an invented illusion, and that is reality. I cant say i know enough quantum mechanics to all but interpret wildly on what you said though.
Those are a few horrible fads and hardly constitute a regression from civilized society. There was a time when putting your real name on-line would get you laughed off of slashdot. sad.
Dont use a smart phone, don't use google products, and dont use social media.
I guess that's what passes for "off the grid" these days. Not hard.
Yeah, chrome killing support for napia plugins has made a java remote appliance stop working the same way, a building lighting control system built on silverlight to stop working, and an hvac systems web interface. And thats just the building I work in....
Right now, everyone is hoping microsoft or oracle or whomever will update plugins so that they work again in chrome. IETAB is a work around, however it sucks ass that internal tools firewalled off from the internet also get shafted. Upgrades for these kind of systems aren't cheap either.
And require a crack to get working properly? Why would anyone still use that crap. As everyone else has said, 7-zip has I thought, been standard for like 5 years, which is eternity in internet time... Do the slashdot editors still use winrar or something because they are stuck in the glory days of yore?
That, or they really are out of tune with the windows software scene.
Seriously, my mousewheel starts smoking whenever one of these new web 3.0 pages come up. Scrolling scrolling scrolling forever. Who the hell likes these things>? Is there something so wrong with embeded images? does every page have to be some downward scrolling adventure? its just supposed to be a god damn article!!!
Thanks for the list. I had two of the updates, however i am not seeing any hidden or $ folders on my hard drive at all. where specifically are they located? the root of c:\? Perhaps when i initially uninstalled the nag windows update i protected myself?
Pretty much. Its about applications and for "IT pro's" its probably about what they have to support in the workplace as well. I love linux on the server, (LTS releases ONLY), but on the desktop? Last time i tried it was all about lack of software, and length of configuration time for something I am less familiar with.
With linux there is 1 program that one guy maintains that does what you want in one way. If you want variety, hey just program that shit up! On windows, there are tens to hundreds of programmes that do what you want, no coding required. Some pay, some free, the best ones are open source of course.
So I guess I am not sure what desktop linux users complain about. Android is the most popular phone OS, and OSX is UNIX... So pretty much everywhere is *NIX already in 2015. I can name a dozen popular open source tools that I use every day, so even the linux philosophy has thoroughly permeated many windows users. (windirstat, thunderbird, putty, filezilla, dban, rufus, firefox, notepad++, vnc, media player classic, vlc, xibo... and many more)
The only reason that there are not more desktop linux installs is that MS and office are considered business standard. Business people (including most IT people I have met) like that most of the technology works out of the box and is point and click, thus saving time and headaches. Office workers want the os that they are familiar with from work, at home. You would need to retrain the entire world for that to change, and no ones going to pay for that.
And this my friends, is why it survived in canada and europe for months but NOT the usa for more than a few weeks.
You talk so much mr poo, that you give away the real truth with your comment without even realizing it. That is why it was damaged in america in short order, because americans think exactly like this comment.
Reminds me of eve online. But more responsive! Thats a really amazing project. Congrats. Makes sense that there are only 40 comments. All the real cool stuff never gets any attention round here...
You obviously haven't played any system stressing games... Most games are not multiuthreaded, so do not benefit from AMD's main competitive edge. Not to mention AMD chips run hotter and use more power than a comparable intel. Never a good sign of good design .
Then you imply that intel rigged ALL the benchmarks they are in because there is a conspiracy and the US DOJ should get involved....
Like this right, this is rigged by intel?
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/hi...
(The first AMD cpu ranks in at 59th... with double the cores of the nearest i7)
The pendulum switches back and forth all the time, no point in being a fanboy for either franchise. Intel has been dominating since core 2 duo / core 2 quad and they continue to do so. I had dual opterons before that. Brand loyal is stupid, benchmarks cant all lie.
8.1 is not nerely as stable as windows 7. Do you have any microsoft surface devices? I too have had update related problems, as well as directaccess vpn foobaring itself, graphics bugs, network funnyness such as drives dropping randomly offline and just general instability requiring reboots. We have about 20 machines with win8 compared to 100s with win7 and the win8 machines definitely have more issues, sorry to say.
Its always good to be extremely apprehensive about windows releases. If you remember all the way back to win95, it was garbage till SR2. Then theres windows ME, vista, windows CE (nightmares, cold sweats....). I wouldnt touch ten for at least the first year. Suckers can do what they want. I can ALWAYS upgrade later! no harm to me!
are you saying XP is better in the enterprise? You are high or in some dinosaur industry. If you haven't moved all your PC's off XP yet you are doomed!
The problems you complain about can be solved by group policy. How many regular users have to swtich Domains they log into... come on.
Who BROWSES a windows network? Not any sort of enterprise. Why would someone do that? The admin sets the drives,. printers, etc you need based on your location and function.
XP is garbage. Its like saying you want to use win98 in these days. If you have modern touch screen devices, you almost have to use windows 8. I find win8 less stable than windows 7 but windows 7 is surely just as stable as windows 2000.
2008-2012 server for WDS imaging is indespensible. Support for solid state drives, native 64 bit being normal. That anyone could prefer XP over windows 7 in this day either needs to retire right now, or at least will be covered over by the blowing sand soon enough!
Do you think he also did all the HVAC control work? crawling through the 19 schools ceilings, installing sensors, calibrating equipment?
Or do you think they asked the only kid who knew anything about these new fangled computers to read the manual and "programme" the system.
There are a million assumptions that people are making in the comments. I can control my buildings HVAC and security from my desk. Does that mean it was free to get it to that point? Everyone is focusing on the kid who works with the system. BFD, any facilities maintenance worker can programme an BACnet type system to the degree they wish to learn about it!
Fool me once, shame on, shame on you. Fool me ... you can't get fooled again!
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
yup, and in the 90s the message was "live in harmony future children". Nowadays i'm sure it would translate to "buy the new iphone 8"
Yes and companies never would lie, change their minds, or decide that maybe they shouldn't be giving away their main cash cow for free. Take a look at god damn apple to see where microsoft wants to be in 5 years.
Its pretty fucking simple. They don't sell hardware, they dont sell services. How the fuck are they going to make money giving away their shit for free? Its a bait and switch, its a crack dealer and comments like this AC are naive crack whores. Shits gonna change, and everyone else is doing it.
Obama explicitly stated that he would reign in the NSA. Lying is fucking commonplace when your society has a collective memory only 140 characters deep.