Maybe with any luck they'll revert to floppies I can format and actually USE for something. I mean there's only so many coasters a guy can own. Besides which, MS truly has a place in my heart when it comes to using their latest free software for coasters.
Well ICQ is sort of debatable. I mean what happened to cute little ICQ98? Over time its mutated into this big memory hogging hippie redition of AIM on crack. Even the MS paperclip is scared of it.
That sort of depends on your definition of "cool software". If you mean by, software that is exclusive to FreeBSD, then probably there isn't much. Generally the vast majority of Open Source stuff that's worth anything (in MY opinion) works under FreeBSD, it's just that FreeBSD and every other BSD falls into the "other Unix type OS". Usually the only other drawback is that you have to wait a little while (week or so) for tweaking to get someone that releases something that compiles nicely under FreeBSD - or even better a package. With linux binary compatability there are even more things that you can run with a minimum of hassle.
Actually I work where there is a similar setup. The major stuff is run on Linux (used to be SCO) but everyone telnets in by windows. I find that Windows makes a nice terminal. It lets them run outlook, and once you train them to reboot their computer whenever something is wrong, you don't get many phone calls either. Once you have a samba server to back everything up automagically, it all works rather nice.
I installed a dual LCD type setup for a the graphics guy at the place I work. At first there was a horrible flicker on one, but we upgraded his computer and got the newer drivers (2x..) and the flicker went away. If you really want to spin the ATI roulette wheel, you might want to give that a try.
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Actually I read somewhere that there might be a (relatively small) section of mercury that doesn't recieve direct sunlight. Scientists theorize that there might even be ice on this part of mercury. I guess that sort of depends on how you define a side on a spherical object though.
Um, this is a school, not an office. Chances are they'll have to have a few people who "know what's going on" to keep everything running even if they went with windows. Training will have to happen anyway, reguardless of if they went with an Apple, MS, BSD or whatever. And if their teachers are anywhere as near as bad as the ones I had, no ammount of training will help anyway =) Compatability isn't much of an issue either with Open Office. I haven't had any regular document not open with Open Office, aside from some wacked out spreadsheets that causes Exel to die half the time.
So basically I'm sure they'd still come out ahead. Linux takes time to learn yes, but then again much of what you learned years ago still works with Linux today. There's something to be said about needing to re-learn things that change (often for no good reason) - something that happens much more often with Apple/MS. So yes, "linux is only free if your time has no value", but I also consider that to be a good investment that doesn't depreciate with time.
As long as Linux gets adoped somewhere, that's what is important. Many of these kids might grow up to be exeptional programmers and do some really cool stuff one day, but they need to be exposed to Linux first. One thing MS has against it, they don't really give you any tools to make your own stuff anymore. Then again I really can't afford (legally) to buy MS stuff for the sorts of things I wan't to do either. Looking at a Webserver, interacting with a SQL database (just to tinker with it) is way out of my price range with an MS solution.
Hmm... Mozilla RC1 seems to be sort of buggy with forms...
Well it's more of an MS issue (even though OS9 is doing it too). With OS9 it's more like a special case, with Win2k it's a more of a problem because it's a default. Despite the fact that it's pathetically easy to fix, the problem will be actually getting PEOPLE to uncheck a box.
I think his point is correct, but for the wrong reason. As you say, Netscape never made a lot of money from the browser. Generally regular people were free to use it, but a buisness was expected to pay for it (like about $30 - not bad compared to MS office). Netscape mainly made money from Netscape Enterprise Server, although most people were only aware that Netscape corp made a browser. I think the publicity of Netscape losing the browser wars caused many to lose faith in Netscape as a company in general. The other MAJOR loss of revenue came indirectly due to the loss of marketsare - by means of the default homepage. Most people don't change (or don't even know how) their default homepage. For netscape this meant a lot in ad revenue, etc. Many have argued that AOL mainly bought Netscape for the portal Netscape.com.
I actually went to a website where apperently this bug was a feature. As I was looking at this html code (wondering WTF was going on) I noticed that the extention was txt. I opened the site up in IE on a hunch and sure enough it displayed as a web page...
I wonder if anyone would really buy into that article? The quote I found most interesting is:
In addition, OEMs want an operating system that delivers proven value from a reputable vendor who will support them for the long term.
You mean like Microsoft abandoning you in favor of the next "big initiative" in Microsoft? I don't know how far back "support" goes with Linux, but I thought that the idea was that since it's open, you can at least always support it yourself somewhat as a last resort.
And is it just me, or did it seem like MS isn't very happy with Samba. But maybe they're not happy with it because Samba actually beats Win2k serving files on similar hardware;)
Being an avid watcher of anime, I think we all know what Japan is REALLY going to do with this computer. They're going to build extremely large mecha robots which will (for some reason) be immune to conventional weaponry. Rest assured though, that the computer hasn't figured out a crazy enough storyline to justify cute girls in school uniforms piloting them...
Who cares about black? I want computers that look like these. May also have the benifit of being theft proof without a forklift, and plenty of room for the tank of liquid nitrogen to cool that over-clocked Athlon
Yeah, I wish there were more brushed metal cases. I really hate black because it shows how much I never dust anything off. In my office I have a couple dell servers that look like they're from the stone age, and some even older beige computers that look just fine - despite the fact that I never dust either of them off.
Okay I'm impressed. Even though I don't need one, I'd buy it anyway! Maybe put the guts of that old 486 in it and use it for an evil looking firewall:)
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Maybe with any luck they'll revert to floppies I can format and actually USE for something. I mean there's only so many coasters a guy can own. Besides which, MS truly has a place in my heart when it comes to using their latest free software for coasters.
Well ICQ is sort of debatable. I mean what happened to cute little ICQ98? Over time its mutated into this big memory hogging hippie redition of AIM on crack. Even the MS paperclip is scared of it.
That sort of depends on your definition of "cool software". If you mean by, software that is exclusive to FreeBSD, then probably there isn't much. Generally the vast majority of Open Source stuff that's worth anything (in MY opinion) works under FreeBSD, it's just that FreeBSD and every other BSD falls into the "other Unix type OS". Usually the only other drawback is that you have to wait a little while (week or so) for tweaking to get someone that releases something that compiles nicely under FreeBSD - or even better a package. With linux binary compatability there are even more things that you can run with a minimum of hassle.
Actually I work where there is a similar setup. The major stuff is run on Linux (used to be SCO) but everyone telnets in by windows. I find that Windows makes a nice terminal. It lets them run outlook, and once you train them to reboot their computer whenever something is wrong, you don't get many phone calls either. Once you have a samba server to back everything up automagically, it all works rather nice.
because the LAST thing we want is for Mozilla and IE to render ogg files differently! I'm sick of lining everything up with a million tables =P
How are the rest of us slash dotters supposed to know unless people post on Slashdot to tell us?
A vicious cycle yes? =P
bleh
Photoshop won't be ready for Linux until there's a Perl module to automate everything.
Actually, probably the only difference most users will see will be longer numbers in the blue screen of death.
I find it highly unlikely that _anyone_ could convince Intel (or any company, for that matter) to switch to a competitors architecture.
um... DDR RAM?
I think Intel is already pretty annoyed because they can't control everything like they used to...
eh..... that's registered. Are you even required to register? I'm sure there's only about 50 registered users of MS office too.
How old is TWM anyway?
I installed a dual LCD type setup for a the graphics guy at the place I work. At first there was a horrible flicker on one, but we upgraded his computer and got the newer drivers (2x..) and the flicker went away. If you really want to spin the ATI roulette wheel, you might want to give that a try.
Actually I read somewhere that there might be a (relatively small) section of mercury that doesn't recieve direct sunlight. Scientists theorize that there might even be ice on this part of mercury. I guess that sort of depends on how you define a side on a spherical object though.
Um, this is a school, not an office. Chances are they'll have to have a few people who "know what's going on" to keep everything running even if they went with windows. Training will have to happen anyway, reguardless of if they went with an Apple, MS, BSD or whatever. And if their teachers are anywhere as near as bad as the ones I had, no ammount of training will help anyway =) Compatability isn't much of an issue either with Open Office. I haven't had any regular document not open with Open Office, aside from some wacked out spreadsheets that causes Exel to die half the time.
So basically I'm sure they'd still come out ahead. Linux takes time to learn yes, but then again much of what you learned years ago still works with Linux today. There's something to be said about needing to re-learn things that change (often for no good reason) - something that happens much more often with Apple/MS. So yes, "linux is only free if your time has no value", but I also consider that to be a good investment that doesn't depreciate with time.
As long as Linux gets adoped somewhere, that's what is important. Many of these kids might grow up to be exeptional programmers and do some really cool stuff one day, but they need to be exposed to Linux first. One thing MS has against it, they don't really give you any tools to make your own stuff anymore. Then again I really can't afford (legally) to buy MS stuff for the sorts of things I wan't to do either. Looking at a Webserver, interacting with a SQL database (just to tinker with it) is way out of my price range with an MS solution.
Hmm... Mozilla RC1 seems to be sort of buggy with forms...
Well it's more of an MS issue (even though OS9 is doing it too). With OS9 it's more like a special case, with Win2k it's a more of a problem because it's a default. Despite the fact that it's pathetically easy to fix, the problem will be actually getting PEOPLE to uncheck a box.
I think his point is correct, but for the wrong reason. As you say, Netscape never made a lot of money from the browser. Generally regular people were free to use it, but a buisness was expected to pay for it (like about $30 - not bad compared to MS office). Netscape mainly made money from Netscape Enterprise Server, although most people were only aware that Netscape corp made a browser. I think the publicity of Netscape losing the browser wars caused many to lose faith in Netscape as a company in general. The other MAJOR loss of revenue came indirectly due to the loss of marketsare - by means of the default homepage. Most people don't change (or don't even know how) their default homepage. For netscape this meant a lot in ad revenue, etc. Many have argued that AOL mainly bought Netscape for the portal Netscape.com.
I actually went to a website where apperently this bug was a feature. As I was looking at this html code (wondering WTF was going on) I noticed that the extention was txt. I opened the site up in IE on a hunch and sure enough it displayed as a web page...
I wonder if anyone would really buy into that article? The quote I found most interesting is:
;)
In addition, OEMs want an operating system that delivers proven value from a reputable vendor who will support them for the long term.
You mean like Microsoft abandoning you in favor of the next "big initiative" in Microsoft? I don't know how far back "support" goes with Linux, but I thought that the idea was that since it's open, you can at least always support it yourself somewhat as a last resort.
And is it just me, or did it seem like MS isn't very happy with Samba. But maybe they're not happy with it because Samba actually beats Win2k serving files on similar hardware
Well that's sort of my point... they can't take over the world with giant mecha until they figure that aspect out...
5) Emulate Grand Theft Auto 3
Being an avid watcher of anime, I think we all know what Japan is REALLY going to do with this computer. They're going to build extremely large mecha robots which will (for some reason) be immune to conventional weaponry. Rest assured though, that the computer hasn't figured out a crazy enough storyline to justify cute girls in school uniforms piloting them...
Who cares about black? I want computers that look like these. May also have the benifit of being theft proof without a forklift, and plenty of room for the tank of liquid nitrogen to cool that over-clocked Athlon
Yeah, I wish there were more brushed metal cases. I really hate black because it shows how much I never dust anything off. In my office I have a couple dell servers that look like they're from the stone age, and some even older beige computers that look just fine - despite the fact that I never dust either of them off.
Okay I'm impressed. Even though I don't need one, I'd buy it anyway! Maybe put the guts of that old 486 in it and use it for an evil looking firewall :)