I personally envisioned the poster saying those things in a "Tyler Durden" tone:
- You're not the shoes on your feet : Apple has nothing to do with Linux
- You're not the cash in your wallet : Linux has nothing to do with Apple
- You're not your fscking khakis : The MACH kernel...
To bad you're not in Colorado. We're looking to hire some Linux guys. Just one right now, but that will expand as operations expand. We're setting up dev and test environments and training the company to whom we outsourced our Data Center for Production.
RH Adv Server 2.1 until 3.0 comes out. All 2-way machines and blades although a "standard" developer workstation may be around the corner. We're even looking to replace AIX on our p630s. Although I have mixed feelings on that...
Man, this is going to sound shitty. REALLY SHITTY. That being said:
The average quality of the (Java) developers I've worked with overseas (mostly in the UK) is typically considerably higher than the quality here. I think a reason is that Europe has higher unemployment and doesn't have to go after "dregs" to fill seats. Even through the lay-offs we have a lot of overhead...
I've only worked with a Swedish group and a few UK teams, but they've been great
I agree that - FreeBSD is a great OS, if you get to know it.
I'm pushing it as a solution for our corporate web machines (DMZ level stuff). My company has made some good progress there. Six months ago, I was told in no uncertian terms by my boss "I never want to hear the 'L' word again. We'll pay big $$$ per Windows server and that's it." Asshole, he's going the way of the Tandy now...
Here's my issue. Java support in BSD is spotty. I know the knee-jerk reaction is "And we care why?" but that's not appropriate. Server-side Java is very important for web-services and web-apps. Reading the article, it looks like they're working on it and ran out of money. My opinion is that until you get more native support from IBM (WebSphere), BEA (WebLogic) and some SDK developers (Sun, IBM, whomever) BSD isn't even an option.
If this support was better, BSD would be a legitimate candidate for application-level boxes (instead of just web-level running apache) running the real guts of the apps & services. As it is...
Weeellll, works for whom? For you and I (geeks) BSD serves as a great workstation. But don't be confused, it's a workstation.
I'm not sure the average computer user (who may still have their very own copy of CodeRed running locally) can use it. Corporate support from RH, SuSE, and the like is critical for that.
Of course if Apple would get off their @sses and port OSX to Intel... *sigh* Wouldn't THAT be nice...
I dunno. Where are you? While I HAVE a job to say it sucks eggs would be comparing a nuclear blast to a tire blowout. HOWEVER, it pays bills, which clearly is enough.
I finally thought that the market was turning a bit (Colorado) and put my resume out about a week ago. I've had 5 calls. I'm a Java geek with good *nix skills inc some sysadmin. What I'm hearing from recruters is that if you have good skills, there are jobs out there.
If you DO have good skills and aren't getting calls, I'd seriously re-think your resume. I know it sounds like COMPLETE BS, but wording counts.
I don't want to disparage the.45 theory, I kinda like it. But I think that companies can sue spammers for the following:
TOS violation (SPAM violation, hiding real address, etc)
possibly hacking (DOS)
Some kind of civil charges relating to loss of business (service reduction due to a loss of resources - email servers and bacndwidth)
I hate to say it, but what will really help is AOL going after these jerks. If Earthlink, MSN and others follow suit, spammers could be in real trouble. Even other countries aren't gonig to rush to protect was is essentially a irritant, doesn't bring revenue to the nation, and gives the country a bad name!
I'm all for OSS tools, but VNC is to *&&#$ slow over my VPN. I have DSL with pretty good speeds 640/640 and it still drags. Terminal Services is much better on that front. That being said, I have the luxury (and i mean that) of being able to draw the line in the sand with *nix boxes.
I only deal with *nix and do everything (even with RH) on the command line. Windows stuff goes to another group. The only reason I can pull that line in sand stuff is that except for stuff like Exchange we're moving to Linux.
You speak as though Sun has a solid business model...
From what we've seen working with them, that's not the case. For reasons beyond my meager intellect, my company has sold it's soul to the IBM hardware cult. However, Sun has some good software and services offerings we'd like to use. Sun keeps coming back trying to open the hardware door again.
While I'd personally like to let them do it (particularly with their blade product) the option simply isn't there. Their lack of focus on what we want them for (services and some software) is going to cost them legitimate services (primarily) and software (secondarily) business at some point in the future.
IMHO, Sun's real failing is their inability to address software and services as legitimate revenue sources on their own. Instead they are solely used to move hardware.
So basically you're right. You just said it in one sentence...
You aren't going to get an answer here on/. that will be sufficient for you (and if you expect one, you are just a troller/flamer)
And why not? There are oftentimes intelligent reponses. Sure, there's plenty of garbage, but there's also intelligent info posted with links to back it up. You've provided neither and missed an opporuntity to educate someone who asked a legitimate question.
the best way to know is to use it a bit.
Granted, I think that's true in general. HOWEVER, there are people who don't have the time to go play with such things. Example: I'm involved in server-side programming and would NEVER get into that level of code (kernel). Providing a link to someone like me would be quite useful and informative.
I've had similar experiences. i was a consultant with IBM for a while and then did some independent "blood sucking" until the economy turned south.
There was always a degree of resentment from FTEs, typically because they thought we weren't any better than they were skill-wise. I typically didn't find that to be the case. If they HAD the skills in the first place, we wouldn't have been there.
The exception was where they HAD good skills, but not enough people. There wasn't as much resentment on those projects once you proved yourself.
On the pissing match side, that was one thing I liked about contracting. I didn't have any skin in the game, so I'd avoid those. My process went:
I make technical suggestion
If suggestion accepted, great - if NOT, then I give risks and issues with alternative
My ass is covered.
I'd tell my manager the pros and cons and if he/she cared enough, they'd deal with it. I found that by avoiding fights and being consistent on doing good work (which includes admitting any mistakes and fixing them) I'd have fewer and fewer confrontations.
There were still no perks and you always had some resentment, mostly from the tech folks. But the money was much better and you could always look forward to the next assignment. Overall, my best jobs were contracting assignments.
If another contracting gig came up, I'd jump at it. Esp given where I'm working now...
Privacy is not a RIGHT. It is not mentioned in the Constitution ANYWHERE. There are indivdual laws here and there requiring companied with personal info to allow you to opt-out, but that's it!
It's more of a secietal reaction to Big Brother that enforces any of this.
From that standpoint, this guy has NO rights above and beyond ours. Which is in essence - no right to privacy.
That being said, and pardon my coarse language - FUCK HIM
As soon as spammers start respecting others, I'll respect them. Until that time, the gloves are off.
When mozilla was 100%, pure, un-cut vaporware? Everyone (including myself) looked forward to it with stary-eyed hope. I have to admit that I didn't think much would come of it. I was also kinda annoyed with the "kitchen sink" scenario of mozilla, although otherwise I liked the tabbed browsing and cookie & pop-up blocking.
then came Phoenix. Much smaller, I think somewhat faster and it works with sites that mozilla (for whatever reason, I don't know) wouldn't work with - First USA online was my personal pet peeve.
Just have some patience, and hopefully it'll be worth it!
I think.05 is already worth it. I haven't really run into many issues personally. What's new in 0.6?
Sprint has made some GREAT improvements in their service in the Denver area. It used to suck-suck-suck, but has gotten better.
They still have issues with anything beyond base service though. To download anything you have to pay for it. I ddin't realize that was reoccuring every 3 months though. What a joke...
BLASPHEMY! Thou shalt not mention The Beast in this forum!
Although actually I agree, there is a community aspect to Mandrake. I use Slack personally and RH at work. RedHat prices and product in general kinda makes me think "Linux for Windows" every time I'm on it...
It's not whining, you jerk. It's supporting something that has value. _IF_ you value the work they are doing, buy the CDs! Because if you don't support them, Mandrake will go from a Chapter-11 type status to GONE.
Then where will you be? Whining that RedHat doesn't offer free downloads. Sheeesh...
I use Slackware and I support em! They don't even sell CDs, but I think they do good work and I want them to stay around, so... Otherwise, I'll end up whining that RedHat (Or SuSE, or whomever) doesn't offer free downloads any longer.
I would NEVER post something like that on/. - you're just begging for it. Here's why i think you're wrong.
Why do we want/need 64-bit computing? Well, there's the standard scientific computing answers, large batch jobs, etc. Of course the home user has such great need for those capabilities. They also have enormous need for more than 4GB of RAM.
Yeah, right./sarcasm
Here's where we WILL want that kind of computing power. Increased graphics capabilities for games and multimedia. Those 2 things are graphics and memory intensive and would benefit from expanded capability. Those who are really hard-core gamers and love the multimedia stuff are among the only elements driving new PC sales. They want all the latest on those fronts.
So if we do get 64-bit, that's who'll buy and use it. I do mostly server-side stuff and _I_ don't really see the need at my company. A good 2-way 32-bit machine running linux can handle most apps we're building. You just scale horizontally to add capacity.
It's a wierd day when the home users who may be the ones still running compies of Code Red are driving new tech in the microprocessor world...
LOL, OK then, tell me where you get the 1% and the $10 / hit...
Magic numbers? Go do some research to back up your MATH and I'll listen. I don't remember ever reading anywhere those 2 returns. 1% is high and $10? Are you kidding?
Don't flame, try to back it up. I eagerly await silence...
I'll debate that. I've found that when I stand up for myself and at the same time avoid conflict I've been able to do well and get ahead.
The key is to:
Stick to technical points
Don't defend something that is wrong
Walk away if someone starts to lose it (like yelling) and say why "I won't be spoken to like that"
When you're wrong - admit it. This means that political adversaries have nothing to go after, you've admitted a mistake and have compensated for it. Done.
Does this mean some politics? Yes. Do you have to hold your tongue in the face of morons? Yes (that has been the toughest for me), but these idiots will eventually trip themselves up. I say they'll fail if the do "x", they do "x", they fail and blame me and I bring out the e-mail. I don't snicker or taunt, but what's done is done. Next time they think twice before going after me...
Anyway, for what it's worth. There's still corporate BS, but it can be diminished...
Did you READ the article? I may be reaching a bit here, but it often helps to do that BEFORE posting.
Only unknown addresses will be charged, you could probably extend known addresses to include entire domains. Finally, if there's a third party involved, I would think it would be trivial to refund these charges from legitimate people. Finally, you don't HAVE to charge for unknown recipients.
And if the costs are so low that it does not bother me then it will not bother the SPAMMERS either to pay the amount.
Wrong, it WILL bother and even stop many spammers. They're business model completetly depends on their ability to send millions of e-mail messages a day without cost. If you start incurring costs, you've just blown their business model. Even if it's half a cent. Let's see, what's that crazy thing called again? Oh yeah MATH:
$.005 X 1,000,000 messages = $5000
So for each mass mailing of that size, the spammer is paying $5000. Currently a lot of the big guys are sending out over 10 million a week! Hello? That's a log of money!
Now maybe they'll have to actually FOCUS thier mailings and maybe even (gasp!) start pushing products that aren't of dubious value and legal content. Junk is here, but we don't have to tolerate this amount or content.
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- You're not the shoes on your feet : Apple has nothing to do with Linux ...
- You're not the cash in your wallet : Linux has nothing to do with Apple
- You're not your fscking khakis : The MACH kernel
RH Adv Server 2.1 until 3.0 comes out. All 2-way machines and blades although a "standard" developer workstation may be around the corner. We're even looking to replace AIX on our p630s. Although I have mixed feelings on that...
Man, this is going to sound shitty. REALLY SHITTY. That being said:
The average quality of the (Java) developers I've worked with overseas (mostly in the UK) is typically considerably higher than the quality here. I think a reason is that Europe has higher unemployment and doesn't have to go after "dregs" to fill seats. Even through the lay-offs we have a lot of overhead...
I've only worked with a Swedish group and a few UK teams, but they've been great
I agree that - FreeBSD is a great OS, if you get to know it.
I'm pushing it as a solution for our corporate web machines (DMZ level stuff). My company has made some good progress there. Six months ago, I was told in no uncertian terms by my boss "I never want to hear the 'L' word again. We'll pay big $$$ per Windows server and that's it." Asshole, he's going the way of the Tandy now...
Here's my issue. Java support in BSD is spotty. I know the knee-jerk reaction is "And we care why?" but that's not appropriate. Server-side Java is very important for web-services and web-apps. Reading the article, it looks like they're working on it and ran out of money. My opinion is that until you get more native support from IBM (WebSphere), BEA (WebLogic) and some SDK developers (Sun, IBM, whomever) BSD isn't even an option.
If this support was better, BSD would be a legitimate candidate for application-level boxes (instead of just web-level running apache) running the real guts of the apps & services. As it is...
I'm not sure the average computer user (who may still have their very own copy of CodeRed running locally) can use it. Corporate support from RH, SuSE, and the like is critical for that.
Of course if Apple would get off their @sses and port OSX to Intel... *sigh* Wouldn't THAT be nice...
I finally thought that the market was turning a bit (Colorado) and put my resume out about a week ago. I've had 5 calls. I'm a Java geek with good *nix skills inc some sysadmin. What I'm hearing from recruters is that if you have good skills, there are jobs out there.
If you DO have good skills and aren't getting calls, I'd seriously re-think your resume. I know it sounds like COMPLETE BS, but wording counts.
It's the world we live in...
I hate to say it, but what will really help is AOL going after these jerks. If Earthlink, MSN and others follow suit, spammers could be in real trouble. Even other countries aren't gonig to rush to protect was is essentially a irritant, doesn't bring revenue to the nation, and gives the country a bad name!
Man, I NEVER I'd be thankful for AOL!
I only deal with *nix and do everything (even with RH) on the command line. Windows stuff goes to another group. The only reason I can pull that line in sand stuff is that except for stuff like Exchange we're moving to Linux.
THEN bitch about who's there any why.
I added it as a bookmark just in case
From what we've seen working with them, that's not the case. For reasons beyond my meager intellect, my company has sold it's soul to the IBM hardware cult. However, Sun has some good software and services offerings we'd like to use. Sun keeps coming back trying to open the hardware door again.
While I'd personally like to let them do it (particularly with their blade product) the option simply isn't there. Their lack of focus on what we want them for (services and some software) is going to cost them legitimate services (primarily) and software (secondarily) business at some point in the future.
IMHO, Sun's real failing is their inability to address software and services as legitimate revenue sources on their own. Instead they are solely used to move hardware.
So basically you're right. You just said it in one sentence...
And why not? There are oftentimes intelligent reponses. Sure, there's plenty of garbage, but there's also intelligent info posted with links to back it up. You've provided neither and missed an opporuntity to educate someone who asked a legitimate question.
the best way to know is to use it a bit.
Granted, I think that's true in general. HOWEVER, there are people who don't have the time to go play with such things. Example: I'm involved in server-side programming and would NEVER get into that level of code (kernel). Providing a link to someone like me would be quite useful and informative.
The exceptions are verbose, yes, but it's hardly a problem. Your example shows a lack of understanding, not of any empirical evidence.
If you like C so well, stick with it. I think that's the best solution
There was always a degree of resentment from FTEs, typically because they thought we weren't any better than they were skill-wise. I typically didn't find that to be the case. If they HAD the skills in the first place, we wouldn't have been there. The exception was where they HAD good skills, but not enough people. There wasn't as much resentment on those projects once you proved yourself.
On the pissing match side, that was one thing I liked about contracting. I didn't have any skin in the game, so I'd avoid those. My process went:
I'd tell my manager the pros and cons and if he/she cared enough, they'd deal with it. I found that by avoiding fights and being consistent on doing good work (which includes admitting any mistakes and fixing them) I'd have fewer and fewer confrontations.
There were still no perks and you always had some resentment, mostly from the tech folks. But the money was much better and you could always look forward to the next assignment. Overall, my best jobs were contracting assignments.
If another contracting gig came up, I'd jump at it. Esp given where I'm working now...
It's more of a secietal reaction to Big Brother that enforces any of this. From that standpoint, this guy has NO rights above and beyond ours. Which is in essence - no right to privacy.
That being said, and pardon my coarse language - FUCK HIM
As soon as spammers start respecting others, I'll respect them. Until that time, the gloves are off.
then came Phoenix. Much smaller, I think somewhat faster and it works with sites that mozilla (for whatever reason, I don't know) wouldn't work with - First USA online was my personal pet peeve.
Just have some patience, and hopefully it'll be worth it!
I think .05 is already worth it. I haven't really run into many issues personally. What's new in 0.6?
Posted using Phoenix 0.5 / Linux (RH 7.3)
back to work...
Yeah, an upgrade to Linux!
They still have issues with anything beyond base service though. To download anything you have to pay for it. I ddin't realize that was reoccuring every 3 months though. What a joke...
Although actually I agree, there is a community aspect to Mandrake. I use Slack personally and RH at work. RedHat prices and product in general kinda makes me think "Linux for Windows" every time I'm on it...
Then where will you be? Whining that RedHat doesn't offer free downloads. Sheeesh...
I use Slackware and I support em! They don't even sell CDs, but I think they do good work and I want them to stay around, so... Otherwise, I'll end up whining that RedHat (Or SuSE, or whomever) doesn't offer free downloads any longer.
It's not expensive and it's worthwhile.
I would NEVER post something like that on /. - you're just begging for it. Here's why i think you're wrong.
Why do we want/need 64-bit computing? Well, there's the standard scientific computing answers, large batch jobs, etc. Of course the home user has such great need for those capabilities. They also have enormous need for more than 4GB of RAM.
Yeah, right. /sarcasm
Here's where we WILL want that kind of computing power. Increased graphics capabilities for games and multimedia. Those 2 things are graphics and memory intensive and would benefit from expanded capability. Those who are really hard-core gamers and love the multimedia stuff are among the only elements driving new PC sales. They want all the latest on those fronts.
So if we do get 64-bit, that's who'll buy and use it. I do mostly server-side stuff and _I_ don't really see the need at my company. A good 2-way 32-bit machine running linux can handle most apps we're building. You just scale horizontally to add capacity.
It's a wierd day when the home users who may be the ones still running compies of Code Red are driving new tech in the microprocessor world...
Magic numbers? Go do some research to back up your MATH and I'll listen. I don't remember ever reading anywhere those 2 returns. 1% is high and $10? Are you kidding?
Don't flame, try to back it up. I eagerly await silence...
You know what's really pathetic? I "previewed" that post _3_ times, only to catch "log" instead of "lot" AFTER I hit "submit"...
The key is to:
Does this mean some politics? Yes. Do you have to hold your tongue in the face of morons? Yes (that has been the toughest for me), but these idiots will eventually trip themselves up. I say they'll fail if the do "x", they do "x", they fail and blame me and I bring out the e-mail. I don't snicker or taunt, but what's done is done. Next time they think twice before going after me...
Anyway, for what it's worth. There's still corporate BS, but it can be diminished...
You don't have to charge. Just set up your customer service account to not charge for unknown addresses...
Only unknown addresses will be charged, you could probably extend known addresses to include entire domains. Finally, if there's a third party involved, I would think it would be trivial to refund these charges from legitimate people. Finally, you don't HAVE to charge for unknown recipients.
And if the costs are so low that it does not bother me then it will not bother the SPAMMERS either to pay the amount.
Wrong, it WILL bother and even stop many spammers. They're business model completetly depends on their ability to send millions of e-mail messages a day without cost. If you start incurring costs, you've just blown their business model. Even if it's half a cent. Let's see, what's that crazy thing called again? Oh yeah MATH:
$.005 X 1,000,000 messages = $5000
So for each mass mailing of that size, the spammer is paying $5000. Currently a lot of the big guys are sending out over 10 million a week! Hello? That's a log of money!
Now maybe they'll have to actually FOCUS thier mailings and maybe even (gasp!) start pushing products that aren't of dubious value and legal content. Junk is here, but we don't have to tolerate this amount or content.