Then don't use Linux. Given the tone and content of your post, I don't think you should. I also think you shouldn't breed. But that's another topic.
If you're basing your conclusion WRT Linux on sex and games, then your opinion has no value. As a workstation for programming / tech work Linux is great. As a server it's very good and getting better in the enterprise space.
Even as an office workstation, Linux is making progress.
You know why there are no games for linux, it's because their owners have no skill and much like the Acedemia that produced it, it continues to live in an unseen ivory tower.
If it's possible for this to be any more stupid, I can't think of how off the top of my head. There are few games since there isn't a demand for games on Linux. If there was demand, there would be games.
Example; there was a need for a good ubiquitous office quite and look at how far OpenOffice has come! Especially when you consider OpenOffice 5.2 - yeeeech! Even someone totally focused on games and pr0n can use it!
I'd look at SuSE and RH 7.3. I'm pretty sure those two have support for the older IBM machines. SuSE more than RH. And don't worry about RH being an older version, you can easily upgrade the kernel later if you want.
You have to go to Linux ISO to get the RH version.
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I'd play with AIX for a while. It's a great *nix that has some fantastic Disk Management tools that are way above and beyond most other *nixes. IBM has donated a lot of that to Linux, but it's still a little primitive. The AIX LVM is superb as well as tools to move a live partition and resize while mounted, etc.
Many people bash AIX (as I did at first), but some of those tools are really very elegant...
*sigh* I agree with your response, but your tone puts you close to the "Flamebait" category...
IMHO, tools and wizards isolate users from what is really going on within the OS. This creates problems should the tool fail or if there is a situation outside of the function of the tool. Then users who've learned to use the tool can't troubleshoot the real issue. With Slack, you're closer to the true config of the OS and troubleshooting problems are easier.
It's a double-edged sword really. My company has recently gone to Linux (*whew*), REDHAT Linux (doh!). I'm strugling to learn the tools since the organization wants us to use what is included with the system. My frustration is "dammit, I know where the bloody config is located, let me change THAT and kill -SIGHUP "!
I think I'm making progress there. The other issue is RPM. IBM, among other brian-dead SW manufacturers like to use RPM over something more loosely-coupled, like tar.gz. Sadly, Slack is out of the question there.
Thier battle-cry is that it "has the best debugging and dev tools I've ever used". IMHO, this is a joke. Most of the developers I know who depend on those kinds of tools can't code their way out of a wet paper sack. Maybe it's different outside of the J2EE world, but within I'm always leery of those who are dependent on dev/debugging tools...
In the end, the very thing that makes MS popular with so many developers (a trained monkey can use it) may be their downfall. Those same "trained monkeys" struggle with complex issues that require a greater understanding of technology.
That may be a "flamebait" comment, but it's what I've seen...
Are you sure? I thought that the Merillynchian (whatever, the guy who had the twins) said "I've survived your 5 predecessors and I'll survive you as well".
Wouldn't that mean the first "Neo" built the first Zion, second Neo built the second, etc and now it's the 5th Zion that about to get wasted? This Neo will / was supposed to build Zion 6?
I could be wrong, but I THOUGHT that's what I heard. The Architect also said the 5 before you, didn't he?
What, the 'YRO' about students being sued by the RIAA?
How about SCO/Linux? How about several Java articles? They're not hard to find...
Mwahahah.It must be nice to live in a world where everything is so simple.
What is this? Is this another "clever: BWA HA HA HA"? People who post things like this are typically intellectually-challenged. Try pointing out a counter-example instead. If you mention the SCO-IBM suit, then you've only re-affirmed my assessment.
IE, WMP etc haven't done MS any good
I'll disagree with you here. Financially, these products were disasters. From a loss-lead standpoint they've been great in helping MS maintain control over the desktop.
However, if you stick to addressing the parent posters comments re: "Tablet PC and Pocket PC", I don't think either can be called a "stunning success". I don't know ANYONE using Tablet and PocketPC has been mixed with about 1/2 the folks I know returning them or getting tired of them early on
PocketPC only had a chance as there wasn't a real alternative at first for the fancy windows-type PDA. Now Linux-based PDAs are picking up steam and people are finding that maybe a PDA doesn't need all those bells and whistles.
IMHO, MS phone is dead. Instability is bad enough, but once phone-viruses come out? Good grief, do people want MS on their PHONE?
Re-reading the parent, I think it may have been a VERY-well written troll. Nicely done if that's the case...
And here's why: They haven't stated WHAT coded is copied. Further, take on the zealots! Take on Linus and his hordes of Communist cronies! See what happens...
Even without corporate support, these guys would start afresh with "lessons learned" and in a few years we could be beyond where we are now (think about it, total redesign knowing what u do now...). That's a loser right there for SCO. Angry geeks who've lost a GREAT tool and need to rebuild it. The SAME geeks that have produced as OS comparable to most commercial UNIXs much less win-pffffftttpt as far as technical "quality". SCO is going to take on those characters? Good luck... SCO'll lose based solely tenacity.
But now they'll take on IBM, Oracle, Intel, etc? This will be good to watch just for the carnage...
How about for different environments? Some developers use Windows, some use Linux. We then deploy some projects on WebSphere / AIX and others on WebSphere or Tomcat and Linux.
That's all server-side, web service, messaging and middleware. But it's still a big chuck of what happens.
I know whenever I see an app that advertises itself as cross-platform, but turns out to be written in Java, I tend to kind of dismiss it.
Are you serious or trolling? I've seen numerous apps that are fine and are written in Java. The GUI (Swing and whatnot) can be goofy, but I don't think it's that bad
These posts are old, but occasionally they appear.
The sad truth is that Slashbork would be exactly nowhere without Microsoft.
No, you're not even close./. would be a quirky online news site where there would be holy wars about trivial topics (Linux vs BSD vs UNIX) and other things.
MS has only caused a vast majority of those quirky people to come together in jihad against a company whose business ethics are non-existant and whose products are of dubious quality. Although they have a STELLAR marketing group.
/. may not be as BIG as it is now, but even then you're making a huge generalization that you can't possibly back up
Think about it. RIAA is going to drive this guy INTO THE GROUND. They have the legal staff to make this insanely expensive. As if that's not enough, if he has to pay out ANYTHING in a verdict, he has to pay the RIAA legal bill as well.
At least he skipped finals, failed his classes, killed his GPA and lost that tuition money...
Just another perspective. However, if RIAA has resorted to going after students to stop trading, they'll absolutely lose. How many of these before the public becomes fed up and a consumer action group or maybe even civil liberties group goes against RIAA.
Heck, if those jackasses push this hard enough, there may be enough outrage to initiate some change in legal code...
Ah yes, well one cannot really "type expression", things like sarcasm can easily be mis-interpreted. My point was that this is clearly the fault of the company.
However, I do feel that the overhead, complexity and hence pitfalls of ENTITY EJBs (Stateless Session beans are fine, really) made a bad situation MUCH worse
First of all, I agree - on both points. However, I think a batter description of JDO is that is provides a model which logically abstracts a persistence layer. Within the model it provides a good method of implementing DB interaction along the same "thought lines" of Entity EJB function.
IMHO, the concept of encapsulating DB interactions (CRUD) in objects is a no-brainer. But the EJB implementation was out of control as far as overhead and complexity. JDO brings us back to the basics and eliminates a lot of that complexity and overhead...
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EJBs are very easy to miuse -
This is what I've seen being the biggest issue with Entity EJBs. Where I work, they've taken a bunch of old mainframe coders (who weren't very good there as far as I can tell), sent them to _a_ Java class, then to _an_ IDE class and turned them loose.
They all heard EJB and went wild. So the result is a bunch of junior programmers with little understanding of Java, much less J2EE writing "Enterprise Applications". Needless to say we've had some problems - performance and maintainability come to mind...
"Baby with a gun" isn't extreme enough to really describe the current situation...
Hide of misconstrue you're e-mail address ("From:" field)
Invalidate ANY business transactions initiated on e-mail communication with an hidden or incorrect "From:" field
Require that ALL business oriented e-mail have contact information (name, address, e-mail, phone) valid for 90 days
There you go. They have to communicate through a REAL address, they have to tell you WHO they are, any business transactions not following this procedure are invalid (you can't collect money). If spammers do that, they can be blocked. You can add a national "opt-out" list at that point.
For international SPAMMERS, they simply can't collect money. How will people object to those types of charges? Tell your credit card company the transaction took place violating one of those rules and the transaction isn't valid. The spammer has to prove it was.
These guys (SCO) sound like they hired the old Information Minister from Iraq - whats-his-face Aziz...
"The Linux community would have me publish it now, (so they can have it) laundered by the time we can get to a court hearing. That's not the way we're going to go."
Infidels!
So worst case, IBM DID do this (which I doubt), Linux suffers and BSD takes over!?!? Grreeeeeaaat, then we'll have to listen to a bunch of "Linux is dead" trolls. When will it end??? Either way, one thing is for certian:
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Then don't use Linux. Given the tone and content of your post, I don't think you should. I also think you shouldn't breed. But that's another topic.
If you're basing your conclusion WRT Linux on sex and games, then your opinion has no value. As a workstation for programming / tech work Linux is great. As a server it's very good and getting better in the enterprise space.
Even as an office workstation, Linux is making progress.
You know why there are no games for linux, it's because their owners have no skill and much like the Acedemia that produced it, it continues to live in an unseen ivory tower.
If it's possible for this to be any more stupid, I can't think of how off the top of my head. There are few games since there isn't a demand for games on Linux. If there was demand, there would be games. Example; there was a need for a good ubiquitous office quite and look at how far OpenOffice has come! Especially when you consider OpenOffice 5.2 - yeeeech! Even someone totally focused on games and pr0n can use it!
You have to go to Linux ISO to get the RH version.
Unsolicited advice
I'd play with AIX for a while. It's a great *nix that has some fantastic Disk Management tools that are way above and beyond most other *nixes. IBM has donated a lot of that to Linux, but it's still a little primitive. The AIX LVM is superb as well as tools to move a live partition and resize while mounted, etc.
Many people bash AIX (as I did at first), but some of those tools are really very elegant...
IMHO, tools and wizards isolate users from what is really going on within the OS. This creates problems should the tool fail or if there is a situation outside of the function of the tool. Then users who've learned to use the tool can't troubleshoot the real issue. With Slack, you're closer to the true config of the OS and troubleshooting problems are easier.
It's a double-edged sword really. My company has recently gone to Linux (*whew*), REDHAT Linux (doh!). I'm strugling to learn the tools since the organization wants us to use what is included with the system. My frustration is "dammit, I know where the bloody config is located, let me change THAT and kill -SIGHUP "!
I think I'm making progress there. The other issue is RPM. IBM, among other brian-dead SW manufacturers like to use RPM over something more loosely-coupled, like tar.gz. Sadly, Slack is out of the question there.
Thier battle-cry is that it "has the best debugging and dev tools I've ever used". IMHO, this is a joke. Most of the developers I know who depend on those kinds of tools can't code their way out of a wet paper sack. Maybe it's different outside of the J2EE world, but within I'm always leery of those who are dependent on dev/debugging tools...
In the end, the very thing that makes MS popular with so many developers (a trained monkey can use it) may be their downfall. Those same "trained monkeys" struggle with complex issues that require a greater understanding of technology.
That may be a "flamebait" comment, but it's what I've seen...
So either:
Now hand it over... ;)
Wouldn't that mean the first "Neo" built the first Zion, second Neo built the second, etc and now it's the 5th Zion that about to get wasted? This Neo will / was supposed to build Zion 6?
I could be wrong, but I THOUGHT that's what I heard. The Architect also said the 5 before you, didn't he?
How about SCO/Linux? How about several Java articles? They're not hard to find...
Mwahahah.It must be nice to live in a world where everything is so simple.
What is this? Is this another "clever: BWA HA HA HA"? People who post things like this are typically intellectually-challenged. Try pointing out a counter-example instead. If you mention the SCO-IBM suit, then you've only re-affirmed my assessment.
Shades of "neener neener". Quite appropriate.
There's no "-1 Stupid" option.
However, if you stick to addressing the parent posters comments re: "Tablet PC and Pocket PC", I don't think either can be called a "stunning success". I don't know ANYONE using Tablet and PocketPC has been mixed with about 1/2 the folks I know returning them or getting tired of them early on
PocketPC only had a chance as there wasn't a real alternative at first for the fancy windows-type PDA. Now Linux-based PDAs are picking up steam and people are finding that maybe a PDA doesn't need all those bells and whistles.
IMHO, MS phone is dead. Instability is bad enough, but once phone-viruses come out? Good grief, do people want MS on their PHONE?
Re-reading the parent, I think it may have been a VERY-well written troll. Nicely done if that's the case...
Seriously confused
you're making a huge generalization that you can't possibly back up
Oh, yes I can.
Oh no you can't. Look at OTHER stories that have high respones.
Because open source is a proven bastion of ethical behavior.
By the people, for the people. Yes they are. Period.
Let me guess - the last time you installed Windows was 1992, right?
2 months ago, but that was almost clever.
Oh, and kudos for using the word 'jihad'.
It was good wasn't it? Your reponse was appropriately moderated.
Even without corporate support, these guys would start afresh with "lessons learned" and in a few years we could be beyond where we are now (think about it, total redesign knowing what u do now...). That's a loser right there for SCO. Angry geeks who've lost a GREAT tool and need to rebuild it. The SAME geeks that have produced as OS comparable to most commercial UNIXs much less win-pffffftttpt as far as technical "quality". SCO is going to take on those characters? Good luck... SCO'll lose based solely tenacity.
But now they'll take on IBM, Oracle, Intel, etc? This will be good to watch just for the carnage...
That's all server-side, web service, messaging and middleware. But it's still a big chuck of what happens.
I know whenever I see an app that advertises itself as cross-platform, but turns out to be written in Java, I tend to kind of dismiss it.
Are you serious or trolling? I've seen numerous apps that are fine and are written in Java. The GUI (Swing and whatnot) can be goofy, but I don't think it's that bad
Because really, what is /. without some trivial arguments like vi vs. emacs? ;)
Actually I got on the vi bandwagon for 2 reasons:
On that note, I haven't messed with emacs, but probably should...
Not wanting to nit, but it's you're not your. Sorry, it's a pet peeve of mine. Especially after the "speak English" part. ;)
Other than that, I agree with your post!
The sad truth is that Slashbork would be exactly nowhere without Microsoft.
No, you're not even close. /. would be a quirky online news site where there would be holy wars about trivial topics (Linux vs BSD vs UNIX) and other things.
MS has only caused a vast majority of those quirky people to come together in jihad against a company whose business ethics are non-existant and whose products are of dubious quality. Although they have a STELLAR marketing group.
At least he skipped finals, failed his classes, killed his GPA and lost that tuition money...
Just another perspective. However, if RIAA has resorted to going after students to stop trading, they'll absolutely lose. How many of these before the public becomes fed up and a consumer action group or maybe even civil liberties group goes against RIAA.
Heck, if those jackasses push this hard enough, there may be enough outrage to initiate some change in legal code...
No, but I'm glad this happens at other places. For a moment I was worried my description would give my employer and hence myself away
However, I do feel that the overhead, complexity and hence pitfalls of ENTITY EJBs (Stateless Session beans are fine, really) made a bad situation MUCH worse
IMHO, the concept of encapsulating DB interactions (CRUD) in objects is a no-brainer. But the EJB implementation was out of control as far as overhead and complexity. JDO brings us back to the basics and eliminates a lot of that complexity and overhead...
This is what I've seen being the biggest issue with Entity EJBs. Where I work, they've taken a bunch of old mainframe coders (who weren't very good there as far as I can tell), sent them to _a_ Java class, then to _an_ IDE class and turned them loose.
They all heard EJB and went wild. So the result is a bunch of junior programmers with little understanding of Java, much less J2EE writing "Enterprise Applications". Needless to say we've had some problems - performance and maintainability come to mind...
"Baby with a gun" isn't extreme enough to really describe the current situation...
There you go. They have to communicate through a REAL address, they have to tell you WHO they are, any business transactions not following this procedure are invalid (you can't collect money). If spammers do that, they can be blocked. You can add a national "opt-out" list at that point.
For international SPAMMERS, they simply can't collect money. How will people object to those types of charges? Tell your credit card company the transaction took place violating one of those rules and the transaction isn't valid. The spammer has to prove it was.
Random directory? Like the "working directory for the application" random? I don't know if you're a bad troll or an overactive college student.
"The Linux community would have me publish it now, (so they can have it) laundered by the time we can get to a court hearing. That's not the way we're going to go."
Infidels!
So worst case, IBM DID do this (which I doubt), Linux suffers and BSD takes over!?!? Grreeeeeaaat, then we'll have to listen to a bunch of "Linux is dead" trolls. When will it end??? Either way, one thing is for certian:
SCO is dead.
That's PRECISELY what I'm saying, and don't call me Shirley...
Sorry 'bout that, long day, no coffee, no booze, getting wierd over here.
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