Really? Strange that the beancounters from *all* the major HD makers seem to think otherwise. Otherwise at least *one* of them would simply stick to three year warranty and VERY LOUDLY publicise the fact.
It's not clear that's the case at all. One thing that:::is::: clear is that profit margins on EIDE drives are the lowest they've ever been with both competition and the increased technology required to maintain the capacity race.
Warranty service and replacement is a:::big::: expense for OEM's. Not only do you have to stock replacement drives, but also maintain the staff and infastructure to handle those returns. Reducing the warranty period from 3 to 1 years significantly lowers an OEM's expenses.
The other thing that hasn't been brought up is the stratification of the EIDE market into two tiers. Maxtor for instance has out their Maxline II series, with the full 3 year warranty, and MTBF's previously researved for SCSI drives. If you wan't something better, you pay a bit more. This satisfies everyone; those who need to replace a drive in their dell for as little as possible, and those who host porn off their machines 24/7.
salaries for the engineers, sales reps, tech support...and their benefits
etc. etc. etc.
You can't just look up the sum of the parts on price watch and assume that's anywhere near what something should cost. At least not a product I would want to buy anyway...
And of course, the geeks who would actually use this thing make up a very small percentage of the market, so the item would be a relatively low-production one. Lower production means higher margins....which means higher cost.
I know a half dozen folks off the top of my head who'd be happy get a $50k job these days.
I think you're missing a very large point here.
There are 168 hours in a week. Take away 100, and you're left with 68. Now assume you want to sleep 8 hours a night, each night. That takes a 56hr bite out of your week, leaving you with a grand total of 12.
That's 90 minutes to yourself each day, for as long as you work there. I'd bet most of us could do it for a week, but how about a year? Not likely.
And of course as a temp, your sick days are limited...and vacation? Forget about it. Going out with friends? watching tv, reading slashdot, talking on the phone, dates....You've got 90 minutes each day. 35 minute commute? Too bad.
You've fallen into the common belief that money brings happiness. The question however is this: What good is money if you have to sacrifice your mental well being to get it?
-Chris
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I know a half dozen folks off the top of my head who'd be happy get a $50k job these days.
I think you're missing a very large point here.
There are 168 hours in a week. Take away 100, and you're left with 68. Now assume you want to sleep 8 hours a night, each night. That takes a 56hr bite out of your week, leaving you with a grand total of 12.
That's 90 minutes to yourself each day, for as long as you work there. I'd bet most of us could do it for a week, but how about a year? Not likely.
And of course as a temp, your sick days are limited...and vacation? Forget about it. Going out with friends? watching tv, reading slashdot, talking on the phone, dates....You've got 90 minutes each day. 35 minute commute? Too bad.
You've fallen into the common belief that money brings happiness. The question however is this: What good is money if you have to sacrifice your mental well being to get it?
That's all well and good, but what about the rest of us unwashed heathens without a playstation?:::cutting to the point:::
Has anyone heard anything about a PC version? I know with the original the PC version lagged the PS2 by almost a year, but you'd think they'd have most of the heavy porting aleady done.
Unless of course the sales of the PC version were lackluster and they don't have any interest in investing the time in porting it. Notice this time around there hasn't been:::any:: mention of a PC version what-so-ever.
I'd really like to play it, as I loved the first...but i'm not buying a $250+ console system just to play one game.
-Chris
PS-I know at least one person who:::did::: buy a PS2 just for one game. Hello Steve.
What's worse is that this guy thinks firewall's are the final word on computer security. If an attacker already had:::nonprivledged:::: access to a machine behind his firewall.....he'd be screwed.
The difference is that even hitler had men between him and his goals. In the case of a truly centralized computer, every gun, tank, bomb, gas chamber....would have been under his:::direct::: control.
Which actually raises an interesting question. Most of the doomsday scenerios involve a single centralized autonomous computer gone bezerk...but what if it's subsystems were autonomous, but expected to still "follow orders"?
Delegation is needed in any large system, wether it be humans or computer based. And if you're using AI in the central control, wouldn't some of it's subsystems also benefit from a degree of AI?
And what happens when the AI's disagree? Think about it....a war WITHIN a machine....
"Let me put it this way, Mr. Amer. The 9000 series is the most reliable computer ever made. No 9000 computer has ever made a mistake or distorted information. We are all, by any practical definition of the words, foolproof and incapable of error."
If you think about it, HAL is logical extension of this same concept. And look how well that turned out.
The more control you give a machine, the more damage they can do. Yes a human is far more prone to error, but a single human would never have control of an entire ship, planet or universe.
Terminator, The Matrix, Dune...all get a bit closer to reality with each passing day.
10 BUILD STUFF 20 WANT MORE STUFF 30 BUILD MORE STUFF 40 WANT STUFF YOU CANT HAVE 50 BUILD WEAPONS TO TAKE STUFF FROM WHO DOES HAVE 60 GAIN ENEMIES 70 BUILD BIGGER WEAPONS FOR DEFENSE 80 BUILD SUPER WEAPON 90 DESTROY SELVES 99 GOTO 10
Ok numnuts, how bout this. 48x liteon drive (the older 48/12/48 model) cheap peice of crap drive burns even 40x rated media at 48x
Funny, I have that same drive, and I havn't had nearly the same results:-)
Mighty picky about media up at these speeds, aren't they? (48X rated rather or otherwise). I think i'll just take the extra minute and burn at 32X, thank you.
Which was a bigger deal, the jump from 2X to 4X or 48X to 52X? Even ignoring the fact that the faster drives use a form of CAV and not CLV, a jump from 48 to 52 is......that's right, not even 2% faster. Factor in that it's hard to find media that will consistantly burn properly at those speeds, and well, what's the point?
And I don't want to hear from those people who say "well i've burned 100's of cd's at 48X and they all work fine for me." Yeah, in that one cdrom you use them in. Have you ever used the nero testing utility to check the number of C1 errors on those "perfect" disks of yours? Yeah they may work on your drive, but how about someome elses? And how about a year from now when they have a few scratches in them? I for one would hate to maintain multiple versions of disks, one for me, and one for everyone else.
In the end it all comes down to this. How much time does 52X save if you just have to burn it again anyway?
My advice is this....if you're getting a new burner, by all means get a fast one. When you start using new media, run some tests to find a safe speed, and then stick with that. But to those of you who ditch your perfectly fine 32X+ writer to buy a new 52X one...I think you're fools.
Honestly, this is really, really impressive. I can't even visualize how one would fit the cdrom tray, cpu, chipset and hard drive in a box that small, even using mobile componants on custom boards. And don't forget the heatsinks needed for a fanless sealed design like this.
If you think about it, technology frequently "gets it's feet wet in dirty water" so to speak.
Home vcrs allowed people to watch porn in their home as opposed to sleezy theaters.
The internet allowed users to view....well....porn. Since then, well you know.
Mp3's in the begining were nearly EXCLUSIVELY used for piracy. Although indie bands and average people were quick to adopt it, for a while the only mp3's on the internet were without permission. Now however there are perfectly legitimate sources of mp3's available.
If I was old enough to have the required insight, I'm sure this could be applied to lots of technology going back centuries, particularly entertainment technologies.
actually, you could solder a resistor on to the promise ultra66 cards and flash it with the fasttrack 66 bios and it worked exactly like the fasttrack.
I think you're right, and I have a feeling I know what the problem is.
Record Labels:::LOVE::: freshman and sophmore albums. They get the the content, promote it on the radio and rake in the cash. Because the artists were unknown when they signed the contract, you can bet they're making very little.
Compare this to a popular arist with a few albums under their belt, who has the name recognition and leverage to negotiate batter contracts, or perhaps even switch labels. Not nearly as attractive.
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Really? Strange that the beancounters from *all* the major HD makers seem to think otherwise. Otherwise at least *one* of them would simply stick to three year warranty and VERY LOUDLY publicise the fact.
It's not clear that's the case at all. One thing that :::is::: clear is that profit margins on EIDE drives are the lowest they've ever been with both competition and the increased technology required to maintain the capacity race.
Warranty service and replacement is a :::big::: expense for OEM's. Not only do you have to stock replacement drives, but also maintain the staff and infastructure to handle those returns. Reducing the warranty period from 3 to 1 years significantly lowers an OEM's expenses.
The other thing that hasn't been brought up is the stratification of the EIDE market into two tiers. Maxtor for instance has out their Maxline II series, with the full 3 year warranty, and MTBF's previously researved for SCSI drives. If you wan't something better, you pay a bit more. This satisfies everyone; those who need to replace a drive in their dell for as little as possible, and those who host porn off their machines 24/7.
-Chris
Yossarian!
But not as expensive as the article claims.
You left out the costs of:
marketing,
testing,
warranty service,
administration,
production,
salaries for the engineers, sales reps, tech support...and their benefits
etc. etc. etc.
You can't just look up the sum of the parts on price watch and assume that's anywhere near what something should cost. At least not a product I would want to buy anyway...
And of course, the geeks who would actually use this thing make up a very small percentage of the market, so the item would be a relatively low-production one. Lower production means higher margins....which means higher cost.
-Chris
I know a half dozen folks off the top of my head who'd be happy get a $50k job these days.
I think you're missing a very large point here.
There are 168 hours in a week. Take away 100, and you're left with 68. Now assume you want to sleep 8 hours a night, each night. That takes a 56hr bite out of your week, leaving you with a grand total of 12.
That's 90 minutes to yourself each day, for as long as you work there. I'd bet most of us could do it for a week, but how about a year? Not likely.
And of course as a temp, your sick days are limited...and vacation? Forget about it. Going out with friends? watching tv, reading slashdot, talking on the phone, dates....You've got 90 minutes each day. 35 minute commute? Too bad.
You've fallen into the common belief that money brings happiness. The question however is this: What good is money if you have to sacrifice your mental well being to get it?
-Chris
I think you're missing a very large point here.
There are 168 hours in a week. Take away 100, and you're left with 68. Now assume you want to sleep 8 hours a night, each night. That takes a 56hr bite out of your week, leaving you with a grand total of 12.
That's 90 minutes to yourself each day, for as long as you work there. I'd bet most of us could do it for a week, but how about a year? Not likely.
And of course as a temp, your sick days are limited...and vacation? Forget about it. Going out with friends? watching tv, reading slashdot, talking on the phone, dates....You've got 90 minutes each day. 35 minute commute? Too bad.
You've fallen into the common belief that money brings happiness. The question however is this: What good is money if you have to sacrifice your mental well being to get it?
-Chris
Awesome....thanks guys.
-Chris
That's all well and good, but what about the rest of us unwashed heathens without a playstation?
Has anyone heard anything about a PC version? I know with the original the PC version lagged the PS2 by almost a year, but you'd think they'd have most of the heavy porting aleady done.
Unless of course the sales of the PC version were lackluster and they don't have any interest in investing the time in porting it. Notice this time around there hasn't been
I'd really like to play it, as I loved the first...but i'm not buying a $250+ console system just to play one game.
-Chris
PS-I know at least one person who
What's worse is that this guy thinks firewall's are the final word on computer security. If an attacker already had :::nonprivledged:::: access to a machine behind his firewall.....he'd be screwed.
-Chris
...in order to fully devote myself to my other passion: Eating starving babies in the Congo.
Thank You.
The difference is that even hitler had men between him and his goals. In the case of a truly centralized computer, every gun, tank, bomb, gas chamber....would have been under his :::direct::: control.
Which actually raises an interesting question. Most of the doomsday scenerios involve a single centralized autonomous computer gone bezerk...but what if it's subsystems were autonomous, but expected to still "follow orders"?
Delegation is needed in any large system, wether it be humans or computer based. And if you're using AI in the central control, wouldn't some of it's subsystems also benefit from a degree of AI?
And what happens when the AI's disagree? Think about it....a war WITHIN a machine....
-Chris
If you think about it, HAL is logical extension of this same concept. And look how well that turned out.
The more control you give a machine, the more damage they can do. Yes a human is far more prone to error, but a single human would never have control of an entire ship, planet or universe.
Terminator, The Matrix, Dune...all get a bit closer to reality with each passing day.
-Chris
REM HUMAN V2.3
10 BUILD STUFF
20 WANT MORE STUFF
30 BUILD MORE STUFF
40 WANT STUFF YOU CANT HAVE
50 BUILD WEAPONS TO TAKE STUFF FROM WHO DOES HAVE
60 GAIN ENEMIES
70 BUILD BIGGER WEAPONS FOR DEFENSE
80 BUILD SUPER WEAPON
90 DESTROY SELVES
99 GOTO 10
"The Turing Tournament is a two sided tournament designed to find, on the one hand, the best computer programs to mimic human behavior"
:-)
humanator2()
{
while (sex=="false")
for (0:ii:4294967296) {
if (ii mod 100!=0) {
call dwnld_porn(kiddie);
else
call mstrbte();
end;
ii++;
}
}
Note the function requires no parameters...and eventually self-destructs
-Chris
Only 7 more payments to go...
-Chris
Funny, I have that same drive, and I havn't had nearly the same results :-)
Mighty picky about media up at these speeds, aren't they? (48X rated rather or otherwise). I think i'll just take the extra minute and burn at 32X, thank you.
-Chris
Which was a bigger deal, the jump from 2X to 4X or 48X to 52X? Even ignoring the fact that the faster drives use a form of CAV and not CLV, a jump from 48 to 52 is...
And I don't want to hear from those people who say "well i've burned 100's of cd's at 48X and they all work fine for me." Yeah, in that one cdrom you use them in. Have you ever used the nero testing utility to check the number of C1 errors on those "perfect" disks of yours? Yeah they may work on your drive, but how about someome elses? And how about a year from now when they have a few scratches in them? I for one would hate to maintain multiple versions of disks, one for me, and one for everyone else.
In the end it all comes down to this. How much time does 52X save if you just have to burn it again anyway?
My advice is this....if you're getting a new burner, by all means get a fast one. When you start using new media, run some tests to find a safe speed, and then stick with that. But to those of you who ditch your perfectly fine 32X+ writer to buy a new 52X one...I think you're fools.
-Chris
Yes, if you're looking for an HVD SCSI device that only does 35GB uncompressed. 90GB is an entirely arbitrary number.
Real 100GB backup solutions start at 1000 or so, even used.
-Chris
Honestly, this is really, really impressive. I can't even visualize how one would fit the cdrom tray, cpu, chipset and hard drive in a box that small, even using mobile componants on custom boards. And don't forget the heatsinks needed for a fanless sealed design like this.
Yes, very impressive indeed.
-Chris
If you think about it, technology frequently "gets it's feet wet in dirty water" so to speak.
Home vcrs allowed people to watch porn in their home as opposed to sleezy theaters.
The internet allowed users to view....well....porn. Since then, well you know.
Mp3's in the begining were nearly EXCLUSIVELY used for piracy. Although indie bands and average people were quick to adopt it, for a while the only mp3's on the internet were without permission. Now however there are perfectly legitimate sources of mp3's available.
If I was old enough to have the required insight, I'm sure this could be applied to lots of technology going back centuries, particularly entertainment technologies.
-Chris
actually, you could solder a resistor on to the promise ultra66 cards and flash it with the fasttrack 66 bios and it worked exactly like the fasttrack.
Of course it was still a shitty card.
-Chris
My gift to you, the slashdot community...
Jar Jar Binks...being tortured...in lego.
-Chris
24 hours long.....and I'm off work tommorrow.
I feel a day of absolute sloth coming on....
-Chris
Yes, but Tom fails the mention the two 200W peltiers and liquid helium bath...
I don't know about you, but liquid helium spilling on my pants doesn't really brighten up my day.
-Chris
I think you're right, and I have a feeling I know what the problem is.
Record Labels
Compare this to a popular arist with a few albums under their belt, who has the name recognition and leverage to negotiate batter contracts, or perhaps even switch labels. Not nearly as attractive.
-Chris
Let me guess, by using the correlation of psuedo-random noise sequences summed with the signal.
-Chris