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24 Hours Of Beethoven's 9th Symphony
Ermintrude the Flying Cow writes "Ever wonder what "Ode to Joy" would sound like if stretched to 24 hours? Now you can find out. 9 Beet Stretch is the result of running Beethoven's 9th Symphony in a digital stretching program, turning the one hour piece into a 24 hour attention span acid test. Thankfully, for those of us who know our limits, it's been cut into 19 parts."
Why?
Finally someone who has more time on their hands than I do.
"Reality is a crutch for people who can't handle drugs."
as watching grass grow....
It's Christmas everyday with BitTorrent.
Ever wonder what "Ode to Joy" would sound like if stretched to 24 hours?
Uhh, no ?
Yet another way to get little Alex to try to off himself, O my brothers.
Why do content producers insist on using RealAudio? Give me a real player and I'll listen to to the stream. I'm not installing spyware on my machine.
I just gotta know... Why 19 parts? Not 24? Not 48. Not 12. WHY 19?? I could see if they cordoned off each file to represent a fixed timelength of music, which would result in different filesizes, and thus the count would be screwy, but even that isn't the case.
My
Limekiller
Imagine a boewulf Cluster of those!!!
Crew: It's hideous, turn back
Cap'n: What? can't handle the slashdotting.
Crew: The sound!!
It would be better compressed to 24 seconds - the neighbourhood dogs would go apeshit.
Real Player; Didn't Listen
... a ploy by al'qaeda as part of their new terrorism plans.
murdering a nice symphony like this is sure to make a few westerners cry.
...i could actually listen to it.
Sorry guys.. but I hate Real and I hate streaming formats.
Perhaps the same process could be applied in reverse so as to save us from the perils of having to listen to the next BIG THING(tm) or the latest Britney albumn?
Iron Butterfly's In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida stretched to 8 hours.
...the people who did this are probably the same people as would chew your ear off if you complained that classical music is boring. *spit*
Wow this is like Andy Warhol's film "Empire", only that it is probabbly not as artistically creative for its time.
...
for those that don't know - Empire is a film where he (Andy Warhol) put a camera aiming at the empire state building in the morning, started the film, and let it ran EIGHT HOURS.
right up there with watching corn grow and whatever.
silly people that do silly things in the name of art.
My life in the land of the rising sun.
This must be the worst article posted I have seen on slashdot in a long time...
But it drags a bit....
Isn't the Real Player precisely what you are trying to avoid? :)
"They do not preach that their god will rouse them, a little before the Nuts work loose." Kipling, 'The Sons of Martha'
Someone here did a project last year to "derive" a new symphony by a composer. The idea was to analyse various pieces written by the chosen composer, find the common themes, and then use them to produce new pieces which would have the same "feel" as the originals.
That way you end up with more music you like without making you think you've overdosed...
Phil, just me
"Cattle Prods solve most of life's little problems."
Freude schÃner GÃtterfunke
Tochter aus Elysium.
How many lines to go?
"Between strong and weak, between rich and poor [...], it is freedom which oppresses and the law which sets free"
At 24 hours, I don't think "Ode to Joy" is really appropriate anymore.
Then again, isn't an ode a song or poem in remembrance to something lost? In that case it may be all too fitting.
Timestretching has been featured exclusively on electronic music tracks for quite a while now... Just think those drum'n'bass records with the words 'selekta' etc.
Apparently Aphex Twin once was supposed to remix a track, so he timestretched it to a couple of milliseconds and used it as a snare drum, and when the bloke came back to get the ready remix, he just grabbed a random DAT-tape and gave it back to him...
One Nine inch nails strack features the words ' erase your head' stretched to the duration of the track (ummh, 5 minutes or so), so you can hear the words if you fast forward the track.
And this is not even mentioning Autechre (and many others) which these days just live on the digital artifacts caused by timestretching.
But, still, it's cool to find use for this sort of thing... i wonder what they used to create the 24-h stretch
I'm probably responding to a troll, but you don't have a clue, do you?
Oughta be good.
Besides disco, classical music was the worst and most embarassing music in history. Thank God for black people or we'd still be listening to that Nazi shit.
I don't know... maybe it's a personal bias, but somehow I have a hard time taking a critique of classical music - or dress fashion - seriously from someone who appears to be a pro wrestler. I think the pink button picture at the bottom speaks volumes.
"They do not preach that their god will rouse them, a little before the Nuts work loose." Kipling, 'The Sons of Martha'
This is yet another way to destroy an excellent piece of music that i guarantee Beethoven would not aprove of whatsoever. Can people not find a better way to use their time than to screw up other people's music? This is like radio stations that try to do club "mix" songs where they change the tempo of a song and often the actual melody. It's horrible.
***ActiveSX tries to find a less "for Nerds" story than this...
Ah ha! It took a while, but I finally found one.
ok, probably already said by someone, but that is just messed up. i dont know what made them decide to do that, bt it sounds cool, and creepy, and soothing all at the same time, i think im going to have to experiment with streatching out some other stuff to hear what its like.
RealPlayer has evolved (read: added spyware and other unwanted bloat-code ), and is now known as the RealOne Player.
It offers the following wonderful functions, regardless of OS: hijacking your system to automatically play every format it can... regardless of whether you want it to or not, bringing you wonderful ads for miscellaneous garbage that nobody actually wants, and helps lead online content publishers into using proprietary formats that can only be accessed through Real Media's wonderful proprietary software. (and yes, I know they publish part of their protocols and formats... but not enough to actually build a competing client or server using their designs)
For my money, I refuse to install Real-anything. I view it as a viral infection of my system... and nobody in their right mind purposefully infects themselves. If it ain't MP3/OGG, I can't watch it. Oh well. Cei la vie.
/dev/random
Damn. Talk about having too much time on your hands.. Is this the slowest news day yet? Couldn't someone have posted someone interesting, like about the tech required to run some of the stupid floats in those parades?
:) They'll entertain me!
Nothing on TV, nothing on Slashdot, and the only entertainment in my house is watching a turkey bake for 12 hours. I'm about ready to turn to Internet Porn, but since I work in it, that's boring too...
{sigh}
I guess I get to turn to my old friends, Alcohol and Pot.
Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.
Courtesy of IMDB.
Try the doom 3 alpha, its frames are stretched out one by one.
...well for any of us who are fans of Robert Anton Wilson and the Illuminatus, this is funny as hell. I like the 9th personally (always have, not just since reading the Illuminatus and watching Clockwork Orange), but seriously, why make it RealMedia? How the hell am I supposed to sit there streaming 24 hours of music divided into 17 pieces? Its not like Beethoven is somehow copyrighted by the RIAA (I don't think anyways, I could be wrong), use a real format like ogg or (*flamebait*) mp3 and let me download it all and listen on my own time.
Hell, I've got the movements, maybe I'll go do it myself....when I get a few days of extra time on my hands.
Happy Thanksgiving to all who celebrate it!
"But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong" - Dennis Miller
Most digital stretching filters i've heard-- even the ones in professional music programs like ProTools and Logic Audio-- cause the output to be exceedingly gravelly and robotized, like they're being played through a digital cell phone that's slowly giving out. The resulting sound is possible to be used in a musically interesting manner, but it definitely doesn't sound like something a classical music fan would find pleasant to listen to, in my experience.
:)
How did the stretch turn out in this thing? Is it relatively smooth, or is it just like listening to a rotor slowly changing pitch to form something similar to beethoven's 9th? No, of course i'm not going to listen to it myself, especially not when there are X number of slashdotters pounding on their poor realaudio server. Though i may check out this "Herb Levys Mappings" page they link to, if i ever find the correct link. (Theirs is busted. Actually, pretty much everything linked from that first page seems to be slashdotted at this point. Ah well.)
And if it did turn out smoothly, will someone please tell me what software they used for the time expansion, because i want a copy
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Does anyone know where to get Ogg Vorbis or MP3 version of this 9 Beet Stretch? I love Beethoven's 9th Symphony and especially the Ode to Joy, so I'd like to listen to this, but I'm not going to install proprietary software. Thanks.
root@aio:~# nmap -sX -iR -p1- # Ho, ho, ho! Merry Xmas, everyone!
Captain Open Source to the rescue!
libreal
No need for real player.
"All Things Considered" from NPR had a story about this on Wednesday night.
You can listen to ~4 minutes of the piece with comments by the artist here:
http://www.npr.org/display_pages/features/feature
Why do people do shit like this? And why does it keep getting posted on Slashdot.
It's like "Yay! I made something completely useless, let's go post it on slashdot!" WTF?
Anyone know of a non-RealMedia version of this? I don't want to have to install that slimy piece of worm-ridden filth on my system.
"I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar."
-Hoban Washburn
What a rush! I mean, with your balls trapped in a steel ring suspending you two feet off the floor, who would let one go all over themselves, right?
Shit, from the sounds of it, you've partaken in this kinky little exercise. How did you like it? Did you cum? Did you come back for more. I bet you did, didn't you.
Now you're posting AC so no one will know how homo-erotic you are. Brilliant, you faggot!
"Of course what I meant is a player based on open standards."
MPEG-4 is an open standard, It's however not free. But since you asked for open and not free QT would be enough.
"No spyware, no bloatware."
Again, QT fits in.
"No hidden agendas! Just play the damn music/audio/what have you and leave me alone."
Need I say it again?
...play that long, looming note and let it float!
Experience is a hard school, but fools will learn no other.
I just pop the CD of Beethoven's 9th in to my Hifi and hit repeat. Very easy to do, just buy the CD and listen to the real thing. It's absolutely worth it.
you didn't even fail it with very much style.
24 hours long.....and I'm off work tommorrow.
I feel a day of absolute sloth coming on....
-Chris
--an unbreakable toy is useful for breaking other toys--
Nope, can't say that I have.
Seriously, talk about answering questions nobody is asking.
In being stretched like this, the piece loses all sense of anything and becomes noise without purpose.
maybe if you study very hard and practice and let the other guy who failed it tutor you, you can become less bad at failing it and fail it only as bad as the other guy did, as opposed to how bad you failed it, which is to say, much worse than the other guy who failed it so much better than you did.
the real 'you fail it' guy better do some feces/trousers-related posts if i forget.
The following story is no joke.
After building a decicated organ (US$ 700000) the first notes will begin to be played on January 5th, 2003 in St. Burchardi Church in Halberstadt, Germany. The first accord (gis', h' and gis'') will continue for three years, the first additional note will be heard on Juli 5th, 2004. The whole piece will take 639 years to be finished.
The first large church organ in history was built 639 years ago in Halberstadt - this is why the piece is stretched to 639 years. The original John Cage composition (the music was not composed for this occasion) contains an instruction to play as slowly as possible, and now a dedicated team of artists and sponsors is taking this seriously.
The organ was built with redundant air compressors, UPS and diesel generator buffering, hot-swappable organ parts, and everything else required to allow uninterrupted playing for 639 years.
More info at http://www.welt.de/daten/2000/09/13/0913ku190585.
Besides, Fox already did this with a TV show - it's called 24
I don't need to be made to look evil. I can do that on my own. - Christopher Walken
For those of us that don't have Beethoven's Symphonies memorized, and want to hear what some of it sounds like in normal speed, I've found some samples of the beginning's of the movements so you can tell what you're supposed to be listening for.
That has to be the lamest excuse I've seen in a long time. 'Yeah, we're doing this for the *art*' No, you're doing it because you have top much spare time on your hands and too few good ideas in your heads. Sheesh...
Meep.
This 9 Beet Strech is a not bad piece, but it would really rock if they sped it up about 18 times.
Sorry, had to be said.
Freeeeeeeeudeeeeeeeee, schoooooooooeneeeeeeeeeer Goooooooooooeeeeeeeeetteeeeeeeeeerfuuuuuuuuuuuuunk eeeeeeeeen, ...
Toooooooooooooeeeeeeeeeeeeechteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer aaaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuuus Eeeeeeeeeelyyyyyyyyyyyyseeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuum
(in a really low key)
No sig to see here. Move along.
Wow, this sounds exactly like the opening 20 minutes of blackness to 2001! Now we finally know what Kubrik was doing - he was torturing a reel-to-reel copy of Beethoven's Ninth, cool!
There are a thousand forms of subversion, but few can equal the convenience and immediacy of a cream pie -Noel Godin
Here is another site that has the Choral section in ogg
..running it through a different much simpler program that would cut off just before the last movement...[that is the infamous Ode of Joy].
Well, let's forgive Beethoven, he was deaf when he wrote it.
So? You can't prove it was you. I would like to dispute this first post. Whoever claims to have posted this did not post it at all, it was actually me. They're just trying to steal credit for my quick reflexes.
Honestly, who cares if you get there first but don't sign it?
Having been a fan of ambient-guru Geir Jenssen aka Biosphere's music for a decade, listening to this actually reminds me of some of his works. I attended an amazing live-gig with him in September, where he created a similar mood, although a bit more exceptional with images and settings.
Also knowing that he is a member/employe at Notam (Norwegian Network for Acoustics, Technology and Music) I can't help feeling he got to be involved or an inspiration for this work of art.
You can sure tell this is a geek site when someone makes a post about anything slightly "artsy-fartsy". I especially liked the response wondering why it was 19 parts and not 24. Maybe it was just to make you wonder why 19 and not 17 or 24?
:-) To that extent, it looks like it is a success.
HEY - IT'S ART!
While that is not, in and of itself, a good reason for being (or doing for that matter) all art provokes a response.
Maybe, just maybe, the only reason they did it was so that they _could_ submit the story to slashdot and read these responses. (All artists need feedback too.) I'd love it if this were true.
Now, while I love classical music, audio experimentation has never held much attraction for me. I like a nicely structured (and way shorter) musicscape thanks. What I do appreciate is that they are taking a work that has been with us a long time - and with which most of us are familiar - and making something new out of it. Derivative? Of course. But original and thought-provoking? Yep. But I might just listen to the original in a whole new way next time. I might wonder about why that piece, in its original form, is timed the way it is and why it has such an emotional effect on people and I might just discover something new about it or me.
I might even get around to watching that 24 hour movie of the Empire State Building. Anybody know if its on DVD yet?
Stoptional
The copyright on Beethoven's 9th has expired, but there is definitely a copyright on its performances.
You may be able to form your own orchestra and start performing Beethoven without paying royalties to anyone, but record companies still hold the rights to most recordings of his music. Actually I don't think that the copyright on any recording or film has expired yet (maybe some early phonograph records).
The copyright on music you hear now won't expire until some time in the next century.
one last site.. this one has the choral and the 2nd movement in mp3 format.
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(Before you mod down, remember, this is ART.)
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... would be to cram all his symphonys into 240 seconds, getting it over with and release all that time for doing something more (or less, if preferred) usefull. Like stretching the latest hip hop hit into lasting 24 hours, giving it a beat you can actually dance to. :-)
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I didn't think that was possible.
There aint no pancake so thin it doesn't have two sides.
the only thing that comes to mind is actually downloading it all and compressing it to see if it actually is what it is, or whether the 'authors' added refrences to satan in reverse.
The phase vocoder basically takes a spectral analysis of a signal, using the FFT, and theoretically performs a sample-by-sample clone in the spectral domain. This output is then simply resynthesized using the inverse FFT. The artifacts present in phase vocoded signals can be minimized by tweaking its various parameters, FFT size, frame size, window type, and window overlap.
Must be a quiet day today to report on such an old technique.
Interesting comparison to Eno and Discrete Music. If you read the liner notes to the original Discrete Music album, Eno talks about how he was laid up in the hospital, immobilized in a cast, when a friend came in and brought a record player with some classical music, he put it on to play and then left. The player was set to 16rpm instead of 33, so he was stuck listening to a slowed down album of Pachelbel's Canons. He said the album seemed to take hours, through his fog of pain and painkillers. He says it gave him the idea for ambient music.
... how many slashdotters even know who Beethoven was. I mean, among those who have yet to understand when to use "its" and "it's" - who seem to be, oh, so many.
Anyone? Please?
time :)
Cake or Death? Cake Please!
If Beethoven sounds like Ligeti when slowed, does Ligeti sound like Beethoven when sped up?
background music while you work...
Thanks to the /. effect, I will now understand what a 24 hour page load is like!
;)
WOW!
(Is this what they meant?!?!?)
I took one of those pictures of Natalie Portman topless on the beach, enlarged it to 50,000 by 50,000 pixels, and I spend my days nestled about 3,000 pixels into her left nipple. It's a really nice place.
mogorific carpentry experiments
...we have the ability to run the entire 24 Hours of Le Man's in one hour, courtesy Sony's PlayStation. What better way to spend the Thanksgiving weekend, mixing Beethoven and Le Man's racing :)
Note the use of the indefinite article "a" and that the first letters of real and player are lower case and therefore an adjective and noun rather than a proper noun. Geddit now?
And I couldn't agree more with him. The horrid Real Player has burned my ass too many times and has no place on any of my machines.
I figured that they had just taken a MIDI file and put it into some sophisticated version of one of those "Bach in a Box" programs (or maybe Beethoven in a Box) to create a 24-hour improv. But apparentely, no.. these people are actually that crazy to digitally stretch it to 24 hours. How long is a single quarter eighth note at that level of expansion? A minute? 5 minutes? Geez, do these people have nothing else to do?
Of course, this is nothing compared to the 639-year organ project.. What a waste of time, energy, and talent.. I have my doubts as to whether the human race won't self-destruct within the next 600 years? What if terrorists blow up the organ?
At least Homos hasn't posted this twice today.
More like ASS
I wish I had replied to the right post. Sorry!
He said "Give me a real player"
Note the use of the indefinite article "a" and that the first letters of real and player are lower case and therefore an adjective and noun rather than a proper noun. Geddit now?
And I couldn't agree more with him. The horrid Real Player has burned my ass too many times
and has no place on any of my machines.
"Ode to Joy" is a poem written by Schiller. Beethoven used the poem as the lyrics for the fourth movement of the symphony, which is the choral section and most famous part of the symphony. The symphony also has three other movements, so it's not really accurate to refer to the whole symphony no. 9 as "Ode to Joy."
</pedantry>
Phew. Now that's off my chest, you can continue about your business.The article says only that the "9th symphony is streched" which means the tempo of the track is slown down, which basically means that the each note(sample) is played for a much longer time.
There is no mention of the use of "timestretching" in the article itself.
imagine doing it with live musicians.
and now imagine if you were the conductor and had to keep the beat...
From excellent karma to terible karma with a single +5 funny post...
The article says only that the "9th symphony is streched" which means the tempo of the track is slown down, which basically means that the each note(sample) is played for a much longer time.
There is no mention of the use of "timestretching" in the article itself, so the scoop is kind of misleading.
Worst story ever
</comic book guy>
It was the next day, brothers, and I had truly done my best, morning and afternoon, to play it their way and sit like a horrorshow co-operative malchick in the chair of torture, while they flashed nasty bits of ultra-violence on the screen.; though not on the soundtrack, my brothers. The only sound being music. Then I noticed in all my pain and sickness what music it was that like cracked and boomed. It was Ludwig van ó 9th symphony, 4th movement.
I'm surprised nobody caught on to this yet.... fer shame
Ursula Andress, Catherine Deneuve, and Charo, twice...
A guy named Peter Schickele (Have no idea of the real spelling. Ok, lemme go google... Wow - I got it right.) a music professor and composer has been 'deriving' compositions, 11 albums' worth, of the mythical son of JS Bach, PDQ Bach.
Funny stuff, yet very scholarly, in a weird way.
Anyway, he has a website at pdqbach.com.
His peices always have great names too, like Music for an Awful Lot of Winds and Percussion and The Short-Tempered Clavier and Other Dysfunctional Works for Keyboard. Worth a listen.
Cheers,
Jim
-- My Weblog.
Ever wonder what "Ode to Joy" would sound like if stretched to 24 hours?
No! Next.
reminds me of the Goatse.cx guy...
Tournament Management Online &
If you are attempting to copy the original YOU FAIL IT! guy, you have failed! MISERABLY! Go back into the hole from which you came and never return, impostor! This is not humour. THIS IS PATHETIC!!
p.s. this is not the original YOU FAIL IT! guy, just a devoted fan.
I am listening to it now and it is wonderful although it may be better in smaller doses (like 30 minutes or so). I am interested in acquiring a CD of this piece but unfortunatly the CD they mentioned was in mp3's at swipnet and I prefer vorbis' ogg due to the patent thing.
Where is an OGG/MP3/WAV/etc. version?
A score for a concert performance is also available.
"OK, horns, you hold the C sharp for about five pages here. Try not to pass out during the performance, it doesn't look dignified. And chorus members, remember, circular breathing. OK, now let's take it from bar 17,231..."
"Why Subscribe?" Good question...
As Dirty Harry would say: "Marvelous"
I'm particularly excited by the fifth movement -- since there IS no fifth movement of the 9th.
I just hope that no government funding was involved.
I rather dislike most classical, so listening to that would be horrible.
Almost as bad as listening to five seconds of pop music.
that's funny, I don't see any gaping anus..
You got Score:5, Informative in the story about "24 Hours Of Beethoven's 9th Symphony" for saying "Its the 9th symphony stretched out to 24 hours." Are you some kind of troll, sir? Have you hacked the Slashdot moderation engine, maybe? Or you just have lots of friends with mod points? After having said that... To moderators: PLEASE MOD PARENT DOWN ASAP, THANK YOU!
...the symphonies stretch YOU out!!
Ah! My freakin' eyes!
I must admit i do not understand what is wrong with Zipped Wave Files!?!?! (or maybe even mp3?)
Nothing's wrong with zipped wave files, but here's what's wrong with MP3s.
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Hello, Slashdot user. My name is Dr. Sbaitso. I am here to help you.
So I'll just say, "pretentious" and be done with it.
"We shall party like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean." - HedonismBot
Spielberg did it as well for AI - he took a 10 minute story and stretched it out into 3 hours.
Oddly enough, 24 hrs of B's 9th seems to go by much quicker than Steven's attempt...
Endless arguments over trivial contradictions in books written by ignorant savages to explain thunder in the dark.
24 hours of silence has probably been copyrighted by Mike Batt by now.
sub f{($f)=@_;print"$f(q{$f});";}f(q{sub f{($f)=@_;print"$f(q{$f});";}f});
Yeah, I just wish I could get that POS Real software to work... all I get is silence. Why do people continue to use this perpertually broken software by a company that sucks away your privacy like a vampire?!
You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
- http://www.notam02.no/9/Ogg-Vorbis/
- http://www.notam02.no/9/MP3/
Is it that hard? (Sorry if those Ogg and MP3 version were added after your comment - but if they were added before your comment, then you should be modded down.)The phonemail system where I work can digitally slow our messages down just by pressing "7" repeatedly. If anybody else wants to leave this song on my voicemail at work, I'll slow it down a bunch and get out my stopwatch.
Or, I could press "9" furiously and make songs faster. Reggae becomes ska! w00t!
I really hate signatures, but go to my website.
I agree with most of what you said about ambient music. The artists you list, and Vir Unis in particular, are all excellent examples for anyone interested in truly innovative ambient works. Vir Unis also has a couple of sample CDs available through Sonic Foundry, makers of the Acid looping/composition program.
That said, I disagree with one thing:
For one, I think this is highly innovative.
I know, I know... "art" is in the eye of the beholder, but I can't bring myself to call this an artistic statement -- not to mention innovative. The artists you mention are all pushing boundaries and defining new sounds. This 24-Hour Ode To Joy is just someone stretching a WAV file in Sound Forge. Is the resulting sound interesting? Sure... but hardly innovative. Recompress the time and you still just have Ode To Joy, right?
Remixing an existing work, whether by changing the instrumentation, rearranging the piece, or applying a piece's theme to a new song -- that requires some artistry, some talent. And certainly more thought and consideration than a handful of mouse clicks.
This seems more an NPR version of Puff Daddy adding a new beat to The Police's "Every Breath You Take", or Vanilla Ice adding a 16th note to the bass line in Bowie/Queen's "Pressure".
And at the other end of the spectrum is "Watashi Tamagoyaki", a sped of version of Ode to Joy with lyrics about an omlette added to it. It's the ending theme for the anime series "Dragon 1/2" (of which only a few episodes were made before the creators were arrested on drug charges).
Unfortunately this is only being offered in Real Audio format. It would be very nice to have this in at least mp3 or ogg format so one could listen to them on something other than a PC.
Maybe I'm one of the few that would burn the 19 or so CDs required and throw them in may changer + repeat for a few days. Of course I'd probably have to end up opening up soundforge and fixing the files so there would be 1 per CD, but I'd even do that.
Unfortunatly I don't have real player, nor the software to work with these files and I am not willing to install it. This has to do with my unwillingness to support Real and their practices and is an issue that will not be changed by whether or not music is available only in that format. Call me principled.
If the creator happens to read this please allow your audience to actually appreciate your work, and if someone else has somehow done the conversion already and managed to maintain a somewhat clear copy of the audio please either post here or let me know.
Unless you're intensely familiar with all parts of Beethoven's Ninth, you'll probably get the most recognition out of listening to section 5.2. That's the choral "Ode To Joy" section that most people know.
Win dain a lotica, en vai tu ri silota
is if they stretched the Minute Waltz into 24 hours.
It's like watching flies fuck.
(Apologies to George Carlin, who first used that simile to refer to watching golf on TV)
RUN, niggerniggerniggernigger, RUN!
I'm actually enjoying listening to it. It's completely unrecognizable as any sort of musical piece, much less one of Beethoven, but does still have some nice qualities to it. Really, it reminds me of Moby's "God Moving over the Face of the Waters." That's a great song, used in the ending of Heat, a great movie.
Lemme see... I believe the name of Symphony No. 9 is the Choral Symphony. #2=Eroica, #5=Victory, #6=Pastoral, so yeah, I think i'm right.
Sorry if I'm being redundant, I didn't feel like reading through all the unmodded posts.
I'm the Devil the Windows users warned you about.
Kinda reminds me of the ending of Digital Love, by Daft Punk, where there's that long synth string chord holding, then they rase the hpf cutoff (analog synth stuff).
A score for a concert performance is also available.
I would like to see that.
you're welcome.
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To all those who want to tell us how much they don't like it ... so what? No one's going to read your pearls of w and say "Hey, I thought I liked it, but I now know I am wrong"
As it happens I love it (old Eno fan shows his age, recalls 'Evening Star')
If the authors or anyone else can point to the snd code that made this, please please do.
I want to hear Coltrane's "Ascension" with the same treatment.
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if you like the guy so much, you should listen to it like he wanted you to hear it. at least that's my opinion. and yeah, you're pretty overdosed in the whole classical music thing.
I think Europa, whose hymn is the 9th, should use this version from now on.
It is representative of it speed...
...and you'l hear for yourself.
It's crammed with subliminal messages. They are either aliens or evil (or both).
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ze dog has no nose
...because I won't install that program or any of its derivatives ever again. Every time I've done so in the past, it has hijacked every file association in WinXP (yes, I browse with Windows, using Mozilla, thanks for asking), assaulted me with spyware, and generally pissed me off. Thanks for submitting the story. It sounds interesting. I'd love to hear it. Please let me know if it becomes available in *any* other format in the future.
everything in moderation
The names you quoted made me literally laugh out loud. Ahhh. They sound like names a computer programmer would give to works his software turned out, were he not a music major himself.
Which may even describe this Schickele guy.
I will have to go there and take a look, thanks.
"I will trust Google to 'do no evil' until the founders no longer run it." Hello Alphabet.
a beowulf cluster playing this? Would it also take 24 hours?
This sounds like the backdrop to a scene in a horror movie. Or even better, a soundtrack from the game Deus Ex in the later levels.
I was convinced that it would sound awful. To my surprise it did not sound bad although it seemed to be very different from the original. In my opinion the original is way much better, no doubt about that!
A weekend of this could mess with your head big time.... Pizza, acid, 2oo1: Space Oddyssey looping on your screen and this through the speakers.
I'm gonna write:
Dupe, Dupe, Dupe, DUUUUUPE
Doope, Doope, Doope, DOOOOOOOOOPE....
What, me Tweet?
It's the anthem for the new, enlarged European Community.
Virtually serving coffee
i'm sure you know, but forgot to mention, that beethoven used *part* of the poem, not the whole thing.
great poem too... such a combination of optimism and utter cruelty...
This Like That - fun with words!
Hmmm, is it just me? Am I the only one on /. following contemporary art?
Douglas Gordon made a name for himself some time back with "24-Hour Psycho," which was a video projection of the famous Hitchcock film, with the sound off, and playing at such a rate that it would finish in 24 hours.
I saw it in London, and it was really fascinating (for a few minutes anyway). But since the exhibition wasn't open 24 hours at a time, I couldn't authenticate the work.... I guess that's what art critics are for.
Anyway, here's an excellent parody.
This Like That - fun with words!
hi
the MP3/OGG version URLs above don't work.
Are there any that do?
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Computers are like air conditioners.
- They stop working when you open Windows.
It only hijacks your system if you are a clueless newbie that doesn't know how to set it up correctly. kthx.
During setup it ASKS YOU, just like every other program out there, whether you want to associate it with media files. Don't be an idiot, and read the menus.
I'm involved with a group known as The United Empire Loyalist Orchestra that put on two *live* shows in Ottawa under similar premises.
The first was a 24 hour drone show. No notes except D and its octaves. For 24 hours. And it was done.
The second show was a three hour version of O Canada, followed by a 48 second version. And if you want any idea of how it was done, here's the score.
David McCallum
Music wants to be free.
He he, what these guys did is just demonstrating what I suspected: Ambient music is just low bandwidth crap. One could do a Realplayer plugin that does the same stretching automatically in the destination machine, and then this "music" could be streamed in realtime over a 300 bps modem. Weee!!
Am I the only one who thinks this sounds very much like the stuff Jean Michelle Jarre would produce?
Your pizza just the way you ought to have it.
For those fellow visual arts people out there (tumbleweed and a dancer drift by), this certainly sounds like the work that Douglas Gordon has been doing for the past few years. His 24 hour Psycho is almost identical to this (he screen psycho frame by frame at a rate that take 24 hours to complete).
This strikes me as the same sort of project technically, but with very different outcomes. I haven't listened to this yet, but the descriptions I've read have been reaching for the 'sublime'. Gordon's work tends to reveal the mechanics of film as viewers naturally observe the acting more closely, and editing takes on monumental proportions capable of shocking you. Cinematography and lighting also get there deserved recognition. I think Gordon has a piece in Europe (sorry I don't remember where) that is a public installation of a film that's currently running and should be up for five years.
I thought it already was 8 hours!
Click here or here.
... and it kind of grows on you. Admittedly I'm a busy man and had to speed up the playback in order to get it to finish in the hour I had before going to work. Actually, if you speed it up, it sounds even better.
C'est pas apres qu'on a fait dans son pantalon qu'il faut serrer les fesses.
Fun that someone slashdotted this. Heres some info from the person that did the hard work of the stretch. (setting up scripts, dealing with disk-space, doing high-level lisp-programming, etc.)
The artist is Leif Inge, and the person writing the stretch-algoritm is Anders Vinjar, a classical composer and programmer.
The stretch itself was done using a programming package called "CLM". It stands for Common Lisp Music: http://www-ccrma.stanford.edu/CCRMA/Software/clm/
Only granular synthesis is used, no phase-vocoder or fft-stuff. (as someone here seems to be very sure of.)
The program was run on a linux box for about 12 hours to produce the mp3-files (lame encoder).
The mp3-files was later converted to real-audio by Leif Inge and put on the net by me.
If you want the mp3-files, I think Leif Inge can send you some cdrs.
I have also put the first file here, since there were so many wanting it:
http://www.notam02.no/b9s1_aa_ut.mp3
Chinese Water Torture meets the digital age.
A classical music fan visits Beethoven grave. He hears an strange kind of symphonic music playing softly around the grave. He listens to the weird music for a few minutes and then realizes that it is Beethoven's 9th symphony being played back-wards. Puzzled he looks around for a hidden speaker but can't find any. He returns the next day with a friend and asks him if he can hear the back-wards music. The friend says that it sounds like Beethoven's 8th symphony being played back-wards. Puzzled they go and find the grave digger and bring him back to the grave.
"Listen to that", one of them says. "Now it sounds like Beethoven's 7'th symphony backwards.".
The grave digger thinks for a moment and then says, "Well of course it does, he's decomposing."
blech.
I myself have dreamed up a structure intermediate between Dyson spheres
and planets. Build a ring 93 million miles in radius -- one Earth orbit
-- around the sun. If we have the mass of Jupiter to work with, and if
we make it a thousand miles wide, we get a thickness of about a thousand
feet for the base.
And it has advantages. The Ringworld will be much sturdier than a Dyson
sphere. We can spin it on its axis for gravity. A rotation speed of 770
m/s will give us a gravity of one Earth normal. We wouldn't even need to
roof it over. Place walls one thousand miles high at each edge, facing the
sun. Very little air will leak over the edges.
Lord knows the thing is roomy enough. With three million times the surface
area of the Earth, it will be some time before anyone complains of the
crowding.
-- Larry Niven, "Ringworld"
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