When was the last time I saw one used? Today. I was taking some portaits of my 5 year old son with my Hassy.
Yesterday I saw an 8x10 field camera being used. Again, by me....and using a 50 year old lens on it to boot! The whole rig set me back $500 and I make platinum prints from the negs that NO digital camera....I don't care if it cost a billion dollars....can equal the depth and beauty of a platinum print made from "old fashioned" processes. Also, show me a digital proof made from an Iris or other process that will still be vibrant 100 years from now. The platinum/palladium prints I make will last that long...and longer! There are platinum prints that are around today that are still as vibrant and rich as they were when they were made back in the 1800's!!
Also, if you're getting bad prints from you "high-end" photo store (whatever that means), simply switch stores! Or better yet, take them to a film lab, where a professional would. You may find it's much cheaper doing it that way!
Just because you have bad experiences with one camera shop, you make a sweeping statement like: "...consumer photo printing is so awful that I think it has already been surpassed by the current generation of digital cameras". Thats like saying: "I ate a bad french fry at ______(insert any food establishment here) therefore all food establishments make bad french fries!"
Film won't be going anywhere. There are certain processes out there that some fine art photographers just can't live without.
For instance, there is no digital process that can equal the depth and beauty of a contact printed platinum print. If any of you have seen one live, you know what mean.
Also, I can see photographers selling prints at a higher cost BECAUSE they use traditional processes. For instance, someone working and slaving in a darkroom burning and dodging a print to get it exactly the way they want would sell for a HELL of a lot more than an Iris print from someone that retouched it in Photoshop(or The Gimp).
I do think that digital will overtake the consumer market, and will creap more and more into the commercial photographer's studio too. But most fine art photographers will be using film for a very long time...unless of course the digital medium is what what they're going for. Artist are funny that way.
Are the 90's over with yet? I'm sick of this...
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I'm so sick of little idiots like this protesting innocent characters like this...or try to make everything politically correct.
Do you really believe that George Lucas would put something blatently racist in one of his movies on purpose? Give me a break!!!!
It's simple. Jar Jar becomes Boba Fett!
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After years and years of ridicule about his antics and speaking voice....Jar Jar will snap and transform himself into the ruthless bounty hunter, Boba Fett.
I'm on ISDN now, so switching to @Home will do nothing for my speed uploading, although it will be faster downloading....or so in theory. I have a friend that has @Home and he says sometimes it gets so slow as to drop below 56K!!!
Also, @Home seems to change their rules as they go along. What may be here today may be changed with them tomorrow.
I'm sorry, but @Home can kiss my ass....I will NEVER join up with them now. Shoddy tech support, shoddy unpredictible bandwidth, shady rules.
My ISP...whom I've been with for 6 years now....is slowly bringing DSL online. I'll just wait for that.
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Yes, I know who the guy was at the end that sort of lost it and went after Randy and Amy, but they didn't explain fully the guys trip into total madness like that. I mean the scene before we see him in the jungle with his leg blown off by the land mine, he was standing in front of the offices of Ordo trying to serve a search warrent.
Also, I haven't read any of the other books, but I'll have to check them all out now!
My favorite parts are all the crap that Goto Dengo had to go through and still come out on top.
I liked it when Randy, who was afraid someone was tapping into his computer, instead wrote code in Finux(Linux) using Morse code on the space bar and the caps lock lights on his keyboard as the interface! That was pretty wild.
I was a little confused about the guy at the end that started shooting arrows at everyone before stepping on a land mine. They didn't really explain WHY he was so obsesed as to follow them all out in the jungle....in his business suit no less. Sure, he was flaky, but they didn't go through his flakyness to total insanity.
But it was a good read, if a little dis-jointed at times.
FUD FUD FUD. Microsoft is out in force with their FUD about Linux/Open Source...as the infamous "Halloween" document laid out.
It's going to get worse before it gets better people. Expect to see more and more articles from people like Metcalfe claiming how great Win2000 is and how bad Linux is.
He would have been more credible if he had simply bashed Linux without bringing Win2000 into the mix...but when he did that, you could almost see a check being written to him by Microsoft!
And the way he kept saying "Open Sores"....how blatent can you get?
Remember the Halloween document from M$? This is simply the result of that. Microsoft is out there with their spin doctors spreading the smear campain on Linux. They get some "journalists" (I use the term very loosly) into their pockets and they start the FUD machine.
The people that put together the box I mention is a quote I got from Penguin Computing. They're site for building custom systems doesn't have the latest prices.
But what you're saying is, for $2600 you get only one processor, only a 12 gig HD, only 4 PCI slots with no AGP, so so video card (by today's standards, TNT 2's are MUCH better...remember, that card on the new G3's is already out on the PC's and while good, is not "top of the line").
I get all the extra's from Penguin Computing, including support and warrenty. It's not a generic box at all and they even load the latest version of Linux and recompile the kernal for the custom systems.
Yes, Mac's have come way down in price. And yes, I use Mac's 8-12 hours a day (I'm a Photoshop professional). Not to mention the fact that I'm even writing this on a Mac, but I'm finding I just get more bang for the buck with PCs. I mean, it's like night and day! I started out configuring a G3 with the $2500 budget and thought I had a pretty good deal. Then just for laughs I went by the Dell and Gateway sites and was totally blown away on what you get for the price.
By the way, I could make this system much cheaper if I were simply to drop down to one processor...but then doing that I could send it back up to near the 2500 mark with a DVD or RW-CDROM drive and Dolby Digital 5.1 speaker system. Apple simply doesn't offer this. But that's ok. I'm personally looking for a Linux system.
Will I come screaming back to the Mac folds after a few months of running this thing? Who knows!
He's just some user down in Florida that made some stupid statement about 8 tons of fossil fuel being wasted on this. What an idiot!
Everyone is running on fossil fuel? All the computers that were involved would have all been shut down and not be running?
Give me a break. That story only used that lunitic fringe guy to beef up the story instead of reporting on the facts and stating that this is a REASEARCH project....there WILL be some snags along the way.
Besides, it's not like Keating BOUGHT the program!
Moron...
Color seperation tables? We never use them...
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Wow, I work at one of the country's largest pre-press companies...doing packaging and ads for major clients and advertising companies and we never use seperation tables in our color corrections.
We use straight Photoshop (I'm in the PhotoMac department) and ArtPro, Illustrator and Quark...all standard packages running on standard Brisque RIPS. Now, we have special curve functions on the Brisques when we make final films (or if everything is going to the CREO direct-to-plate process...which is a whole other can of worms), but we don't use anything special on Photoshop.
Which leads me to think that The Gimp could in fact get CMYK support without having to sell the farm to get it. But I could be wrong because I'm not on the development end other than doing beta testing and stuff like that. I'm not a programmer or have any idea how hard it would be to implement CMYK or other color spaces to a program.
I remember when Photoshop didn't do CMYK...then only did it as a save function (couldn't work directly in it), then finally a full CMYK version. So I can only guess on how hard it was for Adobe to program all that in there. Before that, we used ColorStudio...which went the way of the dinosaur after Photoshop got CMYK. But I digress...
I don't normally read or listen to movie reviewers, but I do enjoy Roger Ebert and his tastes seem to mirror mine in terms of movies.
He loved the movie, said basically what others are saying about great visuals, flat characters...but he saw the movie for what it was...great entertainment! Which is exactly what I'll be seeing it for.
The original Star Wars movie didn't have any hype or toys before it opened...it was a small movie at the time and it didn't even get a premier! But after a few months when the movie took the world by storm, the toys, the bed linen, the product endorsements etc etc....took off like nothing before it!
But you seemed to have forgotten The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. Both these movies were surrounded by incredible hype. The Empire Strikes Back was surrounded by the hype almost as much as Phantom Menace is. It was most anticipated movie ever made (the same sort of thing people have been saying about Phantom Menace).
What is the point of your article? Did Lucas sell out? Of course he did, and he'd be a fool not to! If he hadn't sold out 22 years ago with the original, we wouldn't be here today talking about the Phantom Menace...which he financed totally by himself.
What's the deal with you Katz? Your whole article reeks of hypocrisy and of the Rolling Stone magazine article submission guildlines (were they tell their writers to make sure they hate everything and slant it to make the artist look like they sold out because they were smart enough to make a buck).
Wow, you're so controversial! I hope you don't get paid by Slashdot for your articles...after all, you'd be a sellout!
All of these game system companies thrive on vaporware....just so they can say they're "coming out with this or that" next year.
The only company that doesn't do this is Sega. It seems they think something up one week, the next week they announce it, and the next week they release it....so what if it's slapped together and basically an underpowered piece of shit (the Saturn, 32X, CD-ROM for Genesis, Game Gear...), they get it out there!! Just take my advice and don't BUY any of Sega's equipment, because they'll just abandon it in like 6 months.
Remember when Nintendo said they were going to have a special removable add-on drive similar to a Syquest for their N64? They were going to debut it with Zelda...but it was pure vapor and never came out. Now they're talking about all the new specs and technology that's going to be on their NEXT game system...but I'll bet that a lot of it get's dropped before it's shipped.
Go by Roger Ebert's site and you'll see Star Wars in his "Great Movies" reviews. He puts Star Wars with the likes of "Gone with the Wind" and "Citizen Kane" and "Aguirre, the Wrath of God".
Pretty interesting, coming from a Pulizer Prize winning movie critic.
Check it out at: http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/old_movies/old_mov ies.html
Boy, you hit the nail on the head about the iMac. That thing tanked because it didn't have a floppy drive. Talk about a bomb...
I bought one and right away I had to get a floppy with it, or else I couldn't live with myself.
What a waste of money it all was. Not only did I dish out $100 for the floppy drive, I've yet to use it! Not one time! But I know, from reading all the responses here at Slashdot that I NEEDED a floppy drive....but I guess I'm doing something wrong because I can't seem to find a reason to use it.
But anyway, hopefully Apple will learn from it's mistake with the iMacs and G3's. Maybe they should get some pointers from Compaq or Dell on how to run their company.
(By the way, for the sarcastically challenged out there, I'm kidding)
Of course, I'm not a jaded, cynical person that most here seem to be. I enjoy things for what they are and guess what, I end up enjoying life far more!
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For the life of me I can't understand WHY the film industry embraced this format that has a SMALLER negative area than 35mm.
The smaller the neg, the worse the picture.
Yes, I agree, a digital camera is much better than an APS camera.
When was the last time I saw one used? Today. I was taking some portaits of my 5 year old son with my Hassy.
Yesterday I saw an 8x10 field camera being used. Again, by me....and using a 50 year old lens on it to boot! The whole rig set me back $500 and I make platinum prints from the negs that NO digital camera....I don't care if it cost a billion dollars....can equal the depth and beauty of a platinum print made from "old fashioned" processes. Also, show me a digital proof made from an Iris or other process that will still be vibrant 100 years from now. The platinum/palladium prints I make will last that long...and longer! There are platinum prints that are around today that are still as vibrant and rich as they were when they were made back in the 1800's!!
Also, if you're getting bad prints from you "high-end" photo store (whatever that means), simply switch stores! Or better yet, take them to a film lab, where a professional would. You may find it's much cheaper doing it that way!
Just because you have bad experiences with one camera shop, you make a sweeping statement like: "...consumer photo printing is so awful that I think it has already been surpassed by the current generation of digital cameras". Thats like saying: "I ate a bad french fry at ______(insert any food establishment here) therefore all food establishments make bad french fries!"
Give me a break...
Film won't be going anywhere. There are certain processes out there that some fine art photographers just can't live without.
For instance, there is no digital process that can equal the depth and beauty of a contact printed platinum print. If any of you have seen one live, you know what mean.
Also, I can see photographers selling prints at a higher cost BECAUSE they use traditional processes. For instance, someone working and slaving in a darkroom burning and dodging a print to get it exactly the way they want would sell for a HELL of a lot more than an Iris print from someone that retouched it in Photoshop(or The Gimp).
I do think that digital will overtake the consumer market, and will creap more and more into the commercial photographer's studio too. But most fine art photographers will be using film for a very long time...unless of course the digital medium is what what they're going for. Artist are funny that way.
I'm so sick of little idiots like this protesting innocent characters like this...or try to make everything politically correct.
Do you really believe that George Lucas would put something blatently racist in one of his movies on purpose? Give me a break!!!!
After years and years of ridicule about his antics and speaking voice....Jar Jar will snap and transform himself into the ruthless bounty hunter, Boba Fett.
It's all so clear to me now...
I'm on ISDN now, so switching to @Home will do nothing for my speed uploading, although it will be faster downloading....or so in theory. I have a friend that has @Home and he says sometimes it gets so slow as to drop below 56K!!!
Also, @Home seems to change their rules as they go along. What may be here today may be changed with them tomorrow.
I'm sorry, but @Home can kiss my ass....I will NEVER join up with them now. Shoddy tech support, shoddy unpredictible bandwidth, shady rules.
My ISP...whom I've been with for 6 years now....is slowly bringing DSL online. I'll just wait for that.
Yes, I know who the guy was at the end that sort of lost it and went after Randy and Amy, but they didn't explain fully the guys trip into total madness like that. I mean the scene before we see him in the jungle with his leg blown off by the land mine, he was standing in front of the offices of Ordo trying to serve a search warrent.
Also, I haven't read any of the other books, but I'll have to check them all out now!
My favorite parts are all the crap that Goto Dengo had to go through and still come out on top.
I liked it when Randy, who was afraid someone was tapping into his computer, instead wrote code in Finux(Linux) using Morse code on the space bar and the caps lock lights on his keyboard as the interface! That was pretty wild.
I was a little confused about the guy at the end that started shooting arrows at everyone before stepping on a land mine. They didn't really explain WHY he was so obsesed as to follow them all out in the jungle....in his business suit no less. Sure, he was flaky, but they didn't go through his flakyness to total insanity.
But it was a good read, if a little dis-jointed at times.
FUD FUD FUD. Microsoft is out in force with their FUD about Linux/Open Source...as the infamous "Halloween" document laid out.
It's going to get worse before it gets better people. Expect to see more and more articles from people like Metcalfe claiming how great Win2000 is and how bad Linux is.
He would have been more credible if he had simply bashed Linux without bringing Win2000 into the mix...but when he did that, you could almost see a check being written to him by Microsoft!
And the way he kept saying "Open Sores"....how blatent can you get?
Hmmm....
Oh well....don't feed the Troll!
Remember the Halloween document from M$? This is simply the result of that. Microsoft is out there with their spin doctors spreading the smear campain on Linux. They get some "journalists" (I use the term very loosly) into their pockets and they start the FUD machine.
It's pretty obvious.
The people that put together the box I mention is a quote I got from Penguin Computing. They're site for building custom systems doesn't have the latest prices.
But what you're saying is, for $2600 you get only one processor, only a 12 gig HD, only 4 PCI slots with no AGP, so so video card (by today's standards, TNT 2's are MUCH better...remember, that card on the new G3's is already out on the PC's and while good, is not "top of the line").
I get all the extra's from Penguin Computing, including support and warrenty. It's not a generic box at all and they even load the latest version of Linux and recompile the kernal for the custom systems.
Yes, Mac's have come way down in price. And yes, I use Mac's 8-12 hours a day (I'm a Photoshop professional). Not to mention the fact that I'm even writing this on a Mac, but I'm finding I just get more bang for the buck with PCs. I mean, it's like night and day! I started out configuring a G3 with the $2500 budget and thought I had a pretty good deal. Then just for laughs I went by the Dell and Gateway sites and was totally blown away on what you get for the price.
By the way, I could make this system much cheaper if I were simply to drop down to one processor...but then doing that I could send it back up to near the 2500 mark with a DVD or RW-CDROM drive and Dolby Digital 5.1 speaker system. Apple simply doesn't offer this. But that's ok. I'm personally looking for a Linux system.
Will I come screaming back to the Mac folds after a few months of running this thing? Who knows!
Very well said letter. Good job.
He's just some user down in Florida that made some stupid statement about 8 tons of fossil fuel being wasted on this. What an idiot!
Everyone is running on fossil fuel? All the computers that were involved would have all been shut down and not be running?
Give me a break. That story only used that lunitic fringe guy to beef up the story instead of reporting on the facts and stating that this is a REASEARCH project....there WILL be some snags along the way.
Besides, it's not like Keating BOUGHT the program!
Moron...
Wow, I work at one of the country's largest pre-press companies...doing packaging and ads for major clients and advertising companies and we never use seperation tables in our color corrections.
We use straight Photoshop (I'm in the PhotoMac department) and ArtPro, Illustrator and Quark...all standard packages running on standard Brisque RIPS. Now, we have special curve functions on the Brisques when we make final films (or if everything is going to the CREO direct-to-plate process...which is a whole other can of worms), but we don't use anything special on Photoshop.
Which leads me to think that The Gimp could in fact get CMYK support without having to sell the farm to get it. But I could be wrong because I'm not on the development end other than doing beta testing and stuff like that. I'm not a programmer or have any idea how hard it would be to implement CMYK or other color spaces to a program.
I remember when Photoshop didn't do CMYK...then only did it as a save function (couldn't work directly in it), then finally a full CMYK version. So I can only guess on how hard it was for Adobe to program all that in there. Before that, we used ColorStudio...which went the way of the dinosaur after Photoshop got CMYK. But I digress...
This guy has a future ahead of him at ILM or Digital Domain!
The FX BLOWS away the Phantom Menace!
I'm still shaking....can't wait to see the ASCII version of Empire now!
I don't normally read or listen to movie reviewers, but I do enjoy Roger Ebert and his tastes seem to mirror mine in terms of movies.
He loved the movie, said basically what others are saying about great visuals, flat characters...but he saw the movie for what it was...great entertainment! Which is exactly what I'll be seeing it for.
The original Star Wars movie didn't have any hype or toys before it opened...it was a small movie at the time and it didn't even get a premier! But after a few months when the movie took the world by storm, the toys, the bed linen, the product endorsements etc etc....took off like nothing before it!
But you seemed to have forgotten The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. Both these movies were surrounded by incredible hype. The Empire Strikes Back was surrounded by the hype almost as much as Phantom Menace is. It was most anticipated movie ever made (the same sort of thing people have been saying about Phantom Menace).
What is the point of your article? Did Lucas sell out? Of course he did, and he'd be a fool not to! If he hadn't sold out 22 years ago with the original, we wouldn't be here today talking about the Phantom Menace...which he financed totally by himself.
What's the deal with you Katz? Your whole article reeks of hypocrisy and of the Rolling Stone magazine article submission guildlines (were they tell their writers to make sure they hate everything and slant it to make the artist look like they sold out because they were smart enough to make a buck).
Wow, you're so controversial! I hope you don't get paid by Slashdot for your articles...after all, you'd be a sellout!
...for their development platform for the Playstation II!
Though with the hardware and special "emotion" chip the system will cost $20,000 for developers.
Anyone have any other info on this? Looks like someone is doing something right, right out of the gate!
All of these game system companies thrive on vaporware....just so they can say they're "coming out with this or that" next year.
The only company that doesn't do this is Sega. It seems they think something up one week, the next week they announce it, and the next week they release it....so what if it's slapped together and basically an underpowered piece of shit (the Saturn, 32X, CD-ROM for Genesis, Game Gear...), they get it out there!! Just take my advice and don't BUY any of Sega's equipment, because they'll just abandon it in like 6 months.
Remember when Nintendo said they were going to have a special removable add-on drive similar to a Syquest for their N64? They were going to debut it with Zelda...but it was pure vapor and never came out. Now they're talking about all the new specs and technology that's going to be on their NEXT game system...but I'll bet that a lot of it get's dropped before it's shipped.
Go by Roger Ebert's site and you'll see Star Wars in his "Great Movies" reviews. He puts Star Wars with the likes of "Gone with the Wind" and "Citizen Kane" and "Aguirre, the Wrath of God".
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Pretty interesting, coming from a Pulizer Prize winning movie critic.
Check it out at:
http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/old_movies/old_mo
Boy, you hit the nail on the head about the iMac. That thing tanked because it didn't have a floppy drive. Talk about a bomb...
I bought one and right away I had to get a floppy with it, or else I couldn't live with myself.
What a waste of money it all was. Not only did I dish out $100 for the floppy drive, I've yet to use it! Not one time! But I know, from reading all the responses here at Slashdot that I NEEDED a floppy drive....but I guess I'm doing something wrong because I can't seem to find a reason to use it.
But anyway, hopefully Apple will learn from it's mistake with the iMacs and G3's. Maybe they should get some pointers from Compaq or Dell on how to run their company.
(By the way, for the sarcastically challenged out there, I'm kidding)
I thought the voice overs were very moving.
Of course, I'm not a jaded, cynical person that most here seem to be. I enjoy things for what they are and guess what, I end up enjoying life far more!
But I guess I'm a dying breed.
Old fashion photographers who still love the quality of film will have yet another hoop to jump through when going through the airport.
Is the "Information Age" over with yet? I'm ready to get off...