Thanks to Jamie Zawinski, this whole thread will now be riddled with dyslexic text. More fun than a barrel of grease monkeys..... not that I know how much fun a barrel of grease monkeys is.
Atrox
Re:We really need a different language
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Nicely put. The DC input to that level of load (albeit not a HUGE one) can be augmented a number of ways, the most obvious I think, would be a large wet-cell UPS system. By which the power to the computers will remain stable if the power source is lost. The primary power source probably being DC conversion off the AC grid -but- other methods, including solar windows, could be used to lessen the load on the AC-DC converters. From a corporate standpoint, the money saved on power would -eventually- payback the cost of upgradeing like this. (Which takes a -LOT- more electrical rewireing than one would think). The ideal way to go about it, would be in new-construction. But alas, if this is ever to take any kind of a good solid hold, it would have to be cheeply implementable across the board... Dont get your hopes up.
"'It is a pity that our friends lie in between,' said Gimli. 'If no land divided Isengard and Mordor, then they could fight while we watched and waited.'
'The victor would emerge stronger than either, and free from doubt,' said Gandalf. 'But Isengard cannot fight Mordor, unless Saruman first obtains the Ring. That he will never do now. He does not yet know his peril. There is much that he does not know. He was so eager to lay his hands on his prey that he could not wait at home, and he came forth to meet and to spy on his messengers." -The Lord of the Rings, The Two Towers.
May that be a solumn warning against being the little dog that gets the big dogs fighting... The big dog that wins will no doubt shred you to ribbons.
Thats simply because a large enough percentage of people dont 'hate' M$. Take for example that before mentioned little tidbit:
Things are good if the people love you, But things are better if they fear you, But you dont want them to -hate- you.
M$ is still safely (when it comes the the majority of people) still in the 'fear' category. Yes, there is a minority of us who hate M$, equally, there is a minority that swears by M$ and loves the devil. The majority still only fears M$, but doesent 'hate' them.
Mod parent up! I first heard the Evanescence, Fallen, album online, DLed it from the OpenFT network, and positivly loved it. So much so that I went down to the local Barns & Noble and got it. Partly for better quality sound, partly for those nice album graphics and booklet. And of course, re-riped it at a higher bitrate for my own private computer-listening. The hard cold fact is, small time bands (like Evanescence pre-daredevil) -love- MP3 tradeing, it gets thier name out there. And they know, that a large enough percentage of the listening audiance (those who DL the MP3s) will probably end up buying thier stuff if it strikes a chord with them (like Evanescence did with me). The RIAA is just the alpha-dinosaur on the block, and due to the money they have, they seem to control the laws... -for now-. Anyway, thats just my 2euro cents.
-Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master.
I know generally speaking, with 3D systems, there is a method by which you use alternateing frames to display each of the 2 part signal, resulting in a half-framerate, what if, useing this tech, one could put one of the signals on one layer, and another seperate signal on a forward transparent layer, then, with the right glasses, one could beat the frame-rate problem, as well as not requireing glasses that are timed with the screen. Just a thought
Atrox -Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master.
I stand corrected... a QC would be a risk to public-key cryptography only. So... I suggest we start finding ways to get ourselves some one-time-pad systems going... Some way to distribute keys 'not in the open'. So yea... either that, or work on non-RSA ways for clients to agree on a session key. OGR is one such tech that is looking promiceing.
Yes, this is a very small baby-step twards a quantom computer.... But, I personally view each such step with a little trepidation. Once the first quantom computer is made... all our present encryption will be... useless against it. Because of its prime factoring ability. Its one of those things, that every time a piece of technology gets something to move a little itsy bit closer to that, I regard it like every little bit closer to the A-Bomb that the Manhatten Project got... viewed with trepidation. The biggest problem with the quantom computer is that... initially, and for many many years, only a select few (those with the -big bucks-) will ever have one, or access to one. This.... this privacy we hold so neer and deer online will perish. Unless there is a form of encryption that can be achieved by PCs, that can boggle a quantom computer... which... I dont see as comeing any time soon. And no... I'm not paranoid, everyone just thinks I am;)
Microft -Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master.
My house is a house with Cats... lotsa cat hair floating about at all times. Namely from my own feline, Jenny, who often comes to visit, and set on my lap, and vye for space with the keyboard. Well, I finally removed keys from it one day, and cleaned it out... and I swear. The dust bunnies had cross bred with hairballs in there. I removed something that would be best described as a carpet, from arround all the keys. This KB being 5+ years old, and able to hold up to my endless RolePlaying marathons at 80WPM... Let alone the years of shell commands. Anyway, thats my vote for the KB as the most versitile piece of computer hardware to date.
-Atrox "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master."
I once droped my Sony Vaio (running at the time) onto the asphalt. Hit square on a corner. Not only did the screen work fine, there was no damage to any of the other hardware. The worst of the damage was just a little scratching to the case (which now, it has considerably more of), and still ticking like the day I got it.
-Atrox "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master."
If a "terrorist" organization needs to communicate they most likely need a simple form of message communication (e-mail). Which, when it comes down to it, could simply be a file. When properly encrypted a file which contains text (or HTML or whatever comunication is needed) could be encrypted to look, and feel, like a binary file. Could even put the extension.exe and the proper headers on it if it made you feel better. Then just transfer the thing FTP with other misc files, unless you were under complete, and total (totalitarian) observation there would be no way of knowing that the file was not a binary exicutable. If you slaped the right header on it, it would look 100% legit, untill you tried to run it. Then it would look like a bad compile of a buggy program. Probably even crash the WinBlows box the feds were trying to use to run it. The person at the other end has information ahead of time what to do with the file, remove the header, and decrypt. With a private key which could be exchanged earlyer on diskette or something. (Allowing the damn key to be pretty freaking long if you want it to be). A back door couldent prevent such a form of message passing, because it looks like a regular download, or file passing between companies (e.g. developer to contract company).
-Atrox
-Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature. - Helen Keller
There is thoughtful talk on Usenet and on other parts of the Internet - but too little of it in the mainstream media.
Maybe we could work together to get something like/. brought to the forfront of the Media, even for a short period of time. Have exerpts from/. discussions put up for discussion by some of these "professionals" that we see in the Media. Granted some/. coments are less than enlightend, but a good number of us are very enlightend, and as I have been reading allong I have seen some very valid points made that I have yet to see in the Media, includeing Discovery Networks and BBC's show that they showed recently. I would like to see a round-table type discussion between pro's that deals with some of the things being spoken of here at/. After all we are just useing our right to freedom of the press here. We can write whatever we want, and some very good things have come about because of it.
-Atrox
-Beware of he who would deny you information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master
I for one, would like to see geeks, and even the more unsavory characters amonst our midst organize into a form of on-line, or cyberspace government. When the US declairs war on terrorism, this cyberspace government could coordinate similar assaults from the cyberspace point of view, which has no "boundarys" or a "front line". Us geeks, I believe, have the resources and will power to make dead sure that Bin Laden, or any of his cohorts would think twice before setting foot in cyberspace at all. We could turn it into a dangerous place for the terrorists to be. Leave there physical extermination to our own government, let us organize and drive this scourge from the face of cyberspace. We have the power, we run the systems that make up "cyberspace" and all of its aspects. Hense we are the citizens of this great world, as such we have a right to be governed by our own soverin government, of our own election, it is high time cyberspace be considered a realm worthy of government, government that isnt hindered, or misinformed much as our US government is when it comes to affairs of cyberspace. We have those rights, lets exersise them. People of Berkly.edu, you are the "chief" geeks among geeks, I would propose starting the government there. If such a government someday exists I would be a willing, and happy participant, dual citizenship between the US and Cyberspace (dont we all already live this way anyway?). We can help, we can be patriotic, even though us geeks have been known for our sceptisism, we still are patriotic. If we organize I have one thing to say to Ben Ladden, "Watch your BACK."
-Atrox
-"Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is still the truth." -Ghandi
For a time now the government has been pushing to regulate internet comunicaitons. One of the arguments arizeing from this ordeal is that no one knew it was comming. There was a complete information loss in our government. They were in the dark. I can see the ramifications for regulation that will no doubt come of this. The government is going to push for regulation of internet comunications. That includes encrypted communications. There will be a loss of freedom here in cyberspace as we know it. The government is going to mandate its own jurisdiction in cyberspace. Brace youselves members of the cyber world.
-The Orginal Atrox
-Security is mostly superstition. It does not exist in nature. -Hellen Keller
Wonder what this does to the Internation Space Station. Discovery is currently docked with it, with a Progress resuply vessel on its tail when it leaves. Wonder if they plan for disruptions in communications due to these Solar Flare radations. I can imagine it would play havoc with any transmissions intended to cut right on through the Ionisphere. The station is also about 240 miles up, that makes transmission even more tricky, not only do you have to punch out of our atmosphere, but you gotta be pointing at exactly the right pin-prick point in space... Ohh well, leave it up to nasa to solve. They always do. (Even if they have to jerryrig something).
-"I know you all. Even if I have never met you." -The Mentor
This is behaves the same way. Except this is on much higher freqencies than CB. CB is expected to bounce like shortwave. These signals bounce when they arent suposed to, due to strange occurances in our atmosphere. Even meteors. Read the article before you post please.
-Temporal Reverse Engineering Inc: If you need us we will call you last week
HACKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE Seriously though, I think that if a large enough group of "hackers" or other "technically inclined individuals" teamed up, in some form of a primitive self-made democratic government the result would be a force to be reckoned with. Until now we have all taken great pride in our uniqueness and at times our anti-social behavior. We isolate ourselves by choice, spending countless hours in front of our comps; just trying to crack the kind of stuff the DCMA cooks up for us. We have been marginally successful, achieving small victory after small victory. But imagine what WE as a unity, would be capable of. And no I am not talking a union here; I am talking a cooperative government. If we teamed up, pitting our skills together, where one can program, another can do hardware hacks. Apart they aren't as powerful, together, they could hack right on through security measures. We need to overcome some of our anti-everything feelings, and begin to work together in an organized fashion, when that happens, there will be no Government, no DCMA, no clever Capitalist, who can stop us.
-Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master.
Great, they get it back up, and what do ya do. Ya note the fact here, it will be slashdotted right back off the map!
-C:\>tracert life.liberty.pursuit-of-happiness
I am an American. That said, I still agree whole heartedly with you. You make many valid points in your . it would seem that this is the way our government does buisness, we have become far to comfortable as the worlds big brother. To the point that we stop thinking about what kind of an influence we are makeing. And the freedom that is so freely faught for and proclaimed apears to disapear right before our eyes. It seems that this issue the copywrite issue, is truely just one flashpoint in a war that is to be waged in the near future, between those of us free minds and our own government. -Atrox
-"You want people to think logically? ACK! Turn in your UID, you traitor!"
Public Static Void RANT {
Rant.String.Equals("Am I the only one arround here who is at least mildly INFURIATED by this! It seems that the "big buisnesses" out there are plenty happy to compromize quality for "safety". Is it just me, or does this feel like an almost personal attack on anyone whishing to copy-compile-backup his or her music. Do they really think that threatening us will cause us to say "ohh, were sorry, heres your CDs back." I think not, we will hack our way arround it, inevitably, and all this will provide is a temporary frustration.")
}
Public Static Extra {
Extra.String.Equals("In other news, this discussion could use more trolls. And do forgive my Java code, it has been a long time since I have coded.")
}
Public Static.sig {
Sig.String.Equals("-Optical Time Domain Reflectometer. Sounds made up, doesn't it?")
}
If anyone remembers or has read the transcripts from the old Skylab missions you would find a rather funny story which illustrates this point. When the first crew got there they had to free one of the solar panels from the side (if I remember right), so what they did was they climbed in their space suits (In the apolo capsule), depressurized the thing, had one guy hanging out the hatch with a big tool that looked like loping sheers. Had another astronaut hold his feet, while the 3rd flew the Apollo craft. Well when he gave the station a pull to try and free the array, it pulled the two craft closer together, and Skylab's automatic systems fired thrusters to force it to hold position, the result was the astronaut almost being ripped right out of the capsule. Ya really gotta read the transcripts to see some of the words that were uttered by the astronauts during it...
-Lost packet, 42 bytes, last seen on a saturated OC3, reward $$$.
AHH, BUT, embeded HARDWARE is what is in the future for the computer industry. From your throne, to the refrigerator, they will all have embeded systems. And they will need software to run. Software that is open source. With the hardware being the "bread and butter" as you put it... The result will be that the end user who is making his house a smart house can choose from a large selection of software. All with different capabilities to suit his needs. Not to mention what us geeks houses will look like. I invision ST like LCARS interface for you rifrig, shower, alarm clock, heck even light switches... Well thats my 2cents, I expect change...
The Original Atrox
-"We are the music makers, We are the dreamers of dreams" -Arthur O'Shaughnessy
Duh! just switch over to FMD, they are made of simple layers of polymers and have no aluminum in them at all. Not to mention being able to hold 180gigs on a CD. Its the future, man, dont resist it...
The Original Atrox
--Jesus Saves......passes to Moses......SCORES!!!
Thanks to Jamie Zawinski, this whole thread will now be riddled with dyslexic text. More fun than a barrel of grease monkeys..... not that I know how much fun a barrel of grease monkeys is.
Atrox
Hmmm.... I smell a TROLL
Atrox
Nicely put. The DC input to that level of load (albeit not a HUGE one) can be augmented a number of ways, the most obvious I think, would be a large wet-cell UPS system. By which the power to the computers will remain stable if the power source is lost. The primary power source probably being DC conversion off the AC grid -but- other methods, including solar windows, could be used to lessen the load on the AC-DC converters. From a corporate standpoint, the money saved on power would -eventually- payback the cost of upgradeing like this. (Which takes a -LOT- more electrical rewireing than one would think). The ideal way to go about it, would be in new-construction. But alas, if this is ever to take any kind of a good solid hold, it would have to be cheeply implementable across the board... Dont get your hopes up.
Atrox
A more complete quote:
"'It is a pity that our friends lie in between,' said Gimli. 'If no land divided Isengard and Mordor, then they could fight while we watched and waited.'
'The victor would emerge stronger than either, and free from doubt,' said Gandalf. 'But Isengard cannot fight Mordor, unless Saruman first obtains the Ring. That he will never do now. He does not yet know his peril. There is much that he does not know. He was so eager to lay his hands on his prey that he could not wait at home, and he came forth to meet and to spy on his messengers."
-The Lord of the Rings, The Two Towers.
May that be a solumn warning against being the little dog that gets the big dogs fighting... The big dog that wins will no doubt shred you to ribbons.
-Atrox
Thats simply because a large enough percentage of people dont 'hate' M$. Take for example that before mentioned little tidbit:
Things are good if the people love you,
But things are better if they fear you,
But you dont want them to -hate- you.
M$ is still safely (when it comes the the majority of people) still in the 'fear' category. Yes, there is a minority of us who hate M$, equally, there is a minority that swears by M$ and loves the devil. The majority still only fears M$, but doesent 'hate' them.
Mod parent up! I first heard the Evanescence, Fallen, album online, DLed it from the OpenFT network, and positivly loved it. So much so that I went down to the local Barns & Noble and got it. Partly for better quality sound, partly for those nice album graphics and booklet. And of course, re-riped it at a higher bitrate for my own private computer-listening. The hard cold fact is, small time bands (like Evanescence pre-daredevil) -love- MP3 tradeing, it gets thier name out there. And they know, that a large enough percentage of the listening audiance (those who DL the MP3s) will probably end up buying thier stuff if it strikes a chord with them (like Evanescence did with me). The RIAA is just the alpha-dinosaur on the block, and due to the money they have, they seem to control the laws... -for now-. Anyway, thats just my 2euro cents.
-Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master.
WELL PUT! Lord help us if ever we see such a time, but lets be prepaired. And always remember: When the going gets weird, the wierd turn pro.
Atrox
-Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master.
I know generally speaking, with 3D systems, there is a method by which you use alternateing frames to display each of the 2 part signal, resulting in a half-framerate, what if, useing this tech, one could put one of the signals on one layer, and another seperate signal on a forward transparent layer, then, with the right glasses, one could beat the frame-rate problem, as well as not requireing glasses that are timed with the screen. Just a thought
Atrox
-Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master.
I stand corrected... a QC would be a risk to public-key cryptography only. So... I suggest we start finding ways to get ourselves some one-time-pad systems going... Some way to distribute keys 'not in the open'. So yea... either that, or work on non-RSA ways for clients to agree on a session key. OGR is one such tech that is looking promiceing.
Microft
Yes, this is a very small baby-step twards a quantom computer.... But, I personally view each such step with a little trepidation. Once the first quantom computer is made... all our present encryption will be... useless against it. Because of its prime factoring ability. Its one of those things, that every time a piece of technology gets something to move a little itsy bit closer to that, I regard it like every little bit closer to the A-Bomb that the Manhatten Project got... viewed with trepidation. The biggest problem with the quantom computer is that... initially, and for many many years, only a select few (those with the -big bucks-) will ever have one, or access to one. This.... this privacy we hold so neer and deer online will perish. Unless there is a form of encryption that can be achieved by PCs, that can boggle a quantom computer... which... I dont see as comeing any time soon. And no... I'm not paranoid, everyone just thinks I am ;)
Microft
-Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master.
My house is a house with Cats... lotsa cat hair floating about at all times. Namely from my own feline, Jenny, who often comes to visit, and set on my lap, and vye for space with the keyboard. Well, I finally removed keys from it one day, and cleaned it out... and I swear. The dust bunnies had cross bred with hairballs in there. I removed something that would be best described as a carpet, from arround all the keys. This KB being 5+ years old, and able to hold up to my endless RolePlaying marathons at 80WPM... Let alone the years of shell commands. Anyway, thats my vote for the KB as the most versitile piece of computer hardware to date.
-Atrox
"Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master."
I once droped my Sony Vaio (running at the time) onto the asphalt. Hit square on a corner. Not only did the screen work fine, there was no damage to any of the other hardware. The worst of the damage was just a little scratching to the case (which now, it has considerably more of), and still ticking like the day I got it.
-Atrox
"Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master."
If a "terrorist" organization needs to communicate they most likely need a simple form of message communication (e-mail). Which, when it comes down to it, could simply be a file. When properly encrypted a file which contains text (or HTML or whatever comunication is needed) could be encrypted to look, and feel, like a binary file. Could even put the extension .exe and the proper headers on it if it made you feel better. Then just transfer the thing FTP with other misc files, unless you were under complete, and total (totalitarian) observation there would be no way of knowing that the file was not a binary exicutable. If you slaped the right header on it, it would look 100% legit, untill you tried to run it. Then it would look like a bad compile of a buggy program. Probably even crash the WinBlows box the feds were trying to use to run it. The person at the other end has information ahead of time what to do with the file, remove the header, and decrypt. With a private key which could be exchanged earlyer on diskette or something. (Allowing the damn key to be pretty freaking long if you want it to be). A back door couldent prevent such a form of message passing, because it looks like a regular download, or file passing between companies (e.g. developer to contract company).
-Atrox
-Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature. - Helen Keller
There is thoughtful talk on Usenet and on other parts of the Internet - but too little of it in the mainstream media.
/. brought to the forfront of the Media, even for a short period of time. Have exerpts from /. discussions put up for discussion by some of these "professionals" that we see in the Media. Granted some /. coments are less than enlightend, but a good number of us are very enlightend, and as I have been reading allong I have seen some very valid points made that I have yet to see in the Media, includeing Discovery Networks and BBC's show that they showed recently. I would like to see a round-table type discussion between pro's that deals with some of the things being spoken of here at /. After all we are just useing our right to freedom of the press here. We can write whatever we want, and some very good things have come about because of it.
Maybe we could work together to get something like
-Atrox
-Beware of he who would deny you information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master
I for one, would like to see geeks, and even the more unsavory characters amonst our midst organize into a form of on-line, or cyberspace government. When the US declairs war on terrorism, this cyberspace government could coordinate similar assaults from the cyberspace point of view, which has no "boundarys" or a "front line". Us geeks, I believe, have the resources and will power to make dead sure that Bin Laden, or any of his cohorts would think twice before setting foot in cyberspace at all. We could turn it into a dangerous place for the terrorists to be. Leave there physical extermination to our own government, let us organize and drive this scourge from the face of cyberspace. We have the power, we run the systems that make up "cyberspace" and all of its aspects. Hense we are the citizens of this great world, as such we have a right to be governed by our own soverin government, of our own election, it is high time cyberspace be considered a realm worthy of government, government that isnt hindered, or misinformed much as our US government is when it comes to affairs of cyberspace. We have those rights, lets exersise them. People of Berkly.edu, you are the "chief" geeks among geeks, I would propose starting the government there. If such a government someday exists I would be a willing, and happy participant, dual citizenship between the US and Cyberspace (dont we all already live this way anyway?). We can help, we can be patriotic, even though us geeks have been known for our sceptisism, we still are patriotic. If we organize I have one thing to say to Ben Ladden, "Watch your BACK."
-Atrox
-"Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is still the truth." -Ghandi
For a time now the government has been pushing to regulate internet comunicaitons. One of the arguments arizeing from this ordeal is that no one knew it was comming. There was a complete information loss in our government. They were in the dark. I can see the ramifications for regulation that will no doubt come of this. The government is going to push for regulation of internet comunications. That includes encrypted communications. There will be a loss of freedom here in cyberspace as we know it. The government is going to mandate its own jurisdiction in cyberspace. Brace youselves members of the cyber world.
-The Orginal Atrox
-Security is mostly superstition. It does not exist in nature. -Hellen Keller
Wonder what this does to the Internation Space Station. Discovery is currently docked with it, with a Progress resuply vessel on its tail when it leaves. Wonder if they plan for disruptions in communications due to these Solar Flare radations. I can imagine it would play havoc with any transmissions intended to cut right on through the Ionisphere. The station is also about 240 miles up, that makes transmission even more tricky, not only do you have to punch out of our atmosphere, but you gotta be pointing at exactly the right pin-prick point in space... Ohh well, leave it up to nasa to solve. They always do. (Even if they have to jerryrig something).
-"I know you all. Even if I have never met you." -The Mentor
This is behaves the same way. Except this is on much higher freqencies than CB. CB is expected to bounce like shortwave. These signals bounce when they arent suposed to, due to strange occurances in our atmosphere. Even meteors. Read the article before you post please.
-Temporal Reverse Engineering Inc: If you need us we will call you last week
HACKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE Seriously though, I think that if a large enough group of "hackers" or other "technically inclined individuals" teamed up, in some form of a primitive self-made democratic government the result would be a force to be reckoned with. Until now we have all taken great pride in our uniqueness and at times our anti-social behavior. We isolate ourselves by choice, spending countless hours in front of our comps; just trying to crack the kind of stuff the DCMA cooks up for us. We have been marginally successful, achieving small victory after small victory. But imagine what WE as a unity, would be capable of. And no I am not talking a union here; I am talking a cooperative government. If we teamed up, pitting our skills together, where one can program, another can do hardware hacks. Apart they aren't as powerful, together, they could hack right on through security measures. We need to overcome some of our anti-everything feelings, and begin to work together in an organized fashion, when that happens, there will be no Government, no DCMA, no clever Capitalist, who can stop us.
-Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master.
Great, they get it back up, and what do ya do. Ya note the fact here, it will be slashdotted right back off the map!
-C:\>tracert life.liberty.pursuit-of-happiness
I am an American. That said, I still agree whole heartedly with you. You make many valid points in your . it would seem that this is the way our government does buisness, we have become far to comfortable as the worlds big brother. To the point that we stop thinking about what kind of an influence we are makeing. And the freedom that is so freely faught for and proclaimed apears to disapear right before our eyes. It seems that this issue the copywrite issue, is truely just one flashpoint in a war that is to be waged in the near future, between those of us free minds and our own government. -Atrox
-"You want people to think logically? ACK! Turn in your UID, you traitor!"
Public Static Void RANT { .sig {
Rant.String.Equals("Am I the only one arround here who is at least mildly INFURIATED by this! It seems that the "big buisnesses" out there are plenty happy to compromize quality for "safety". Is it just me, or does this feel like an almost personal attack on anyone whishing to copy-compile-backup his or her music. Do they really think that threatening us will cause us to say "ohh, were sorry, heres your CDs back." I think not, we will hack our way arround it, inevitably, and all this will provide is a temporary frustration.")
}
Public Static Extra {
Extra.String.Equals("In other news, this discussion could use more trolls. And do forgive my Java code, it has been a long time since I have coded.")
}
Public Static
Sig.String.Equals("-Optical Time Domain Reflectometer. Sounds made up, doesn't it?")
}
If anyone remembers or has read the transcripts from the old Skylab missions you would find a rather funny story which illustrates this point. When the first crew got there they had to free one of the solar panels from the side (if I remember right), so what they did was they climbed in their space suits (In the apolo capsule), depressurized the thing, had one guy hanging out the hatch with a big tool that looked like loping sheers. Had another astronaut hold his feet, while the 3rd flew the Apollo craft. Well when he gave the station a pull to try and free the array, it pulled the two craft closer together, and Skylab's automatic systems fired thrusters to force it to hold position, the result was the astronaut almost being ripped right out of the capsule. Ya really gotta read the transcripts to see some of the words that were uttered by the astronauts during it...
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AHH, BUT, embeded HARDWARE is what is in the future for the computer industry. From your throne, to the refrigerator, they will all have embeded systems. And they will need software to run. Software that is open source. With the hardware being the "bread and butter" as you put it... The result will be that the end user who is making his house a smart house can choose from a large selection of software. All with different capabilities to suit his needs. Not to mention what us geeks houses will look like. I invision ST like LCARS interface for you rifrig, shower, alarm clock, heck even light switches... Well thats my 2cents, I expect change...
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Duh! just switch over to FMD , they are made of simple layers of polymers and have no aluminum in them at all. Not to mention being able to hold 180gigs on a CD. Its the future, man, dont resist it...
...passes to Moses... ...SCORES!!!
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