And anyone else get annoyed by the "Microsoft are working on..." form?
Not me, especially if the speaker/writer is British. The Brits always refer to companies, bands (music groups), and other such named entities (which are composed of numerous people) in the plural.
Think the MLA Handbook is an American guide, yes? Dont' forget, American ain't the only English there is.
Mapquest says it's 49.84 miles between Kewanee and Peoria so it sounds like it'd have to be more than 40km (24.8 miles). But I'm not making any statements about how far it really is between the two planetoids--I'll let someone else find that out and inform us all. And then we'll all believe it, because we read it on slashdot!
Sorry if this is redudant, but I actually searched the page @Flat/-1 before posting, to see if anyone else had already pointed this out...
timothy said... I can't tell from the page when exactly this was made. Whether it was truly in response to Gray's recipe or not, this site certainly provides more amusing visual aids.
Well, it's not exactly proof, but $ HEAD http://gambiarra.conectway.com.br/svt/1.jpg tells you "Last-Modified: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:55:50 GMT"
Which is about 12 hours (assuming accurate clocks, heh) after the article about making Liquid N2 Sorvete was posted on slashdot. Coincidence? *shrug* Damn quick turn-around time, from planning an experiment, conducting it, analyzing the results, and then publishing their (photo)graphs on the web. If they were slashdot-inspired, then them Brazilian boys are certainly men of action, and I applaud their fine work.
I'm glad to hear (it seems) you like Opera enough to use it anyway!
Well, I am using the Sun JDK 1.3.1 on the Win98 box, and the Java-based news ticker at news.bbc.co.uk is enough to consistenly crash the machine after 10-20 minutes.
Personally I don't care, because the infrequent times I have the Win98 machine running, I still have my main linux box if I want to browse the web with Java (or at all, for that matter). Have you looked at the archives for the opera.general newsgroup, or tried discussing it there?
That's too bad. I've seen the same thing on Win98, and figured it was a combo of older OS and older JVM with a new application. But I must say, the Java support is (finally) excellent and wonderfully stable under linux =)
I was just thinking how nice it was to read an entire slashdot submission without glaring spelling or grammar gaffes. I just read it a second time through and still didn't find any (if you find one, then good for you). There are usually so many in the average four-line 'article' that they jump out at me.
Now if only we could have some/. editors who show such eloquence and good command of the language as this teenager, and/or the ability to use a spell-checker.
=poke!= Oh! Huh? Whuzzat? Oh, sorry, I must've been dreaming. Never mind.
So tmark makes a sincere statement of his own skeptical opinion (and identifies it as such), and he gets modded down as flamebait!? His lack of familiarity with RFP provoked insightful and presumably educational responses from a few people, letting those of us who had never heard of RFP know who he was.
Thank you to those who had the decency to write tmark a nice reply, rather than moderate him or her down. I hope you negative moderators get meta-modded to your own little honey pot in hell. I would have given him "+1; insightful" but it wasn't my turn.
P.S. Go ahead and slap me too (my karma can take the abuse). How about an "offtopic?" That's my favourite. Oh, and no... I don't mind if someone doubts my own words because I have a stupid handle. Skepticism is healthy.
Actually, the first "tech-preview" (alpha) release of Opera 7/linux was announced today on the opera.linux newsgroup. AFAICT there is no Bork version yet.
I have put in a request...
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Ha, I'd say you didn't read the article very well yourself!
Their primary concerns may be about Solaris 7 or 8, but they certainly have more fundamental concerns regarding Java. For example, about modules:
Examples include modules that used to be called Swing, RTI, IDL, JSSE and JAAS. These are all good things that should be part of Java. Our concern is that these are not separable modules which can evolve as requirements change.
I am tempted to quote the rest of item #3 of "Defining the Java Problem" for you here, but that would merely annoy those who have actually read the article rather than skimming it. These are not Solaris-only issues, are they?
Their fundamental reasoning for writing this memo may have been concerns with the Solaris implementation of Java, but I think they raise some very good points w.r.t. Java in general, and whether or not you wish to debate virtue of their complaints, statements such as "The Java system for evolving the interface (deprecation) does not serve production software very well" clearly are not Solaris-only issues.
It would seem to me that they talk mostly about Solaris because they are Sun employees primarily concerned with the success of Sun and its Solaris platform. That makes sense. Clearly they also suggest that the Solaris JVMs in particular have had inexcusable problems and a lack of support and responsible managment, but your statement that "what they were really complaining about was Solaris 7 and 8" is a rather broad generalization, wouldn't you say?
As I have been programming primarily in C for the last year, I have not struggled much with the idiosyncracies of Java for a while. Don't get me wrong. I love Java. But I think this article raises some really good issues, and honestly, makes me worry about the fate of Java when its creator can't even make it an acceptable language platform for their own internal application development.
Thanks for the insightful reply. I haven't spoken to my friend's housemate since last week, so I hadn't heard anything more than some second-hand gossip (as I admitted in my original post).
Yes, I guess some people would be inclined to pocket expensive toys and tools on the way out the door in such a situation. I've just never understood that mentality. I've had stuff given to me when a company goes under though, and that's always nice.
And also, I'm used to hearing of people getting laid off privately, one at a time. But when you're shutting down a whole office, obviously that doesn't make sense.
OK, so this is a rumor... not because I don't trust the source, but because I don't remember the exact story (yeah, so don't you trust me either). There are facts here, but I am not clear on them all.
My good friend's housemate worked at Midway, and I first heard the news last Tuesday. I believe it was actually the day before, on Feb. 3, that the cops arrived... before the announcement was even made. Apparently it wasn't your usual, quiet, lay-off. So the police were there and then everyone was told to leave immediately. "Don't grab your stuff, don't clean out your desks, just leave." Apparently they expected trouble for some reason, and I heard some things were indeed smashed by people on their way out.
They were going to let people back to gather their belongings later in the week... one at a time, escorted and supervised. If there were really just 30 employees there (says so in the article)... why would they have expected trouble? Why would they have thrown people out so rudely? This I don't know. I'm sure this sort of thing happens all the time, but it seemed a bit strange to me, and the story made an impression on me most of all because it was Midway.
Makes me wonder what their corporate culture was like, and if most of the employees were wizened, old, maladjusted sociopaths who had lived so completely inside video games for the past years they might not react well to having themselves unplugged rather than just reset. My friend's housemate doesn't fit that description. Well, he's young anyway. *shrug*
No telling how many thousands of quarters went from my pockets into Midway machines back in the '80's... but one of the most surprising things for me, hearing this story, was that Midway still even existed. I didn't know. I guess I haven't been in an arcade in a while.
2 or 3 minutes after we left my friend realized he may be able to take the RAM and actually read the data off of it somehow, assuming it was still saved.
Excuse me for interrupting, but would you consider it rude... if I called you, your friend, and the person who modded your post up, all boneheads?
;-) I mean no offense, really... I'm sure you meant to say "ROM" or "Flash RAM" or something...?
Simply, if I see the gimp supporting CMYK I will know they've gone to an inferior technology, purely in the support of 'giving people what they want' even if that's demonstrably wrong.
I don't care if something is "demonstrably", "good", "bad", "wrong" or "right" by your subjective standards-- I'm 100% in support of 'giving people what they want' if:
doing so makes the giver happy
'what they want' doesn't infringe on my own right to peace, freedom, and the pursuit of happiness.
Do you really have a problem with that?
Patent questions aside, I would think that: If CMYK support is currently a vital requirement for any graphics program to even be considered useable by a large number of professional artists, then whatever programming time would be 'squandered' on this "inferior" (but obviously useful) technology would contribute much to many artists, and in turn to the success of Free software.
If Adobe truly holds a stranglehold patent on a monopolistic technology, then I'd also be jumping up and down saying the printing industry should open up and accept a free "technology" (RGB RGB, rah rah rah). Even better if it's as good as the untouchable one. You say it's superior? Hooray!
In any case, friend, I think you should take a chill pill. Then, tomorrow, go start your new business: "AC's Gimpy Print Shop" (all CMYK services cheerfully declined!).
Give me a break! MS is always devious and nasty. I mean, just look at this recent advert. Such a sneaky, underhanded attempt to make more lusers _appreciate_ the BSOD!
So I take it that no one is feeling feisty and mean-spirited enough to mod #4816268 down as... (oh, I dare not say it!)...um, ok, I'll say it... REDUNDANT?
the idea that this technology can be used in some Orwellian fashion to understand that secretly you are afraid of rats, or are a pedophile or like the look of women eating juicy mangoes is not going to happen anytime soon. It is unlikely that that level of analysis is ever going to be possible.
Mmmmmm.... women eating juicy mangoes.... mmmm... huh, whuzzat? Oh no, I'm on slashdot!?
When I lived in Italy ('98-'99), it cost more for me to call a cell phone from my land-line than it did to call another land-line. Most of my friends dropped their land-lines altogether, which was really annoying, because to call a cell phone from a regular line (during the day) cost nearly as much as calling the USA.
I believe cell-cell rates were much cheaper, which would certainly be one encouragement to get a telefonino once a large number of people already had them (and yes, I think the status symbol angle was very real as well). I never did get one until I moved back to the US.
In any case, one thing that is very different between Italy and the US is (when it comes to cell phones) is that the caller pays the charges, not the receiver. I may be wrong here, the receiver may pay some airtime charges, but I don't think so.
I remember kids in caffés playing this dumb game where they would ring each other (from across the table!)... the caller would try to hang up before the other one picked up the phone. If the receiver picked up the phone first, the caller would have to pay for the call.
One GOOD thing about the cell phone system in Italy (and other countries, I'm sure) is that cell phone systems get their own area codes so there is no need to cut up existing area codes because they run out of numbers, as has happened in the US, resulting in lots of hassle and waste, as companies would have to throw away tons of stationery with the old area code, etc.
In proper slashdot tradition, I haven't read the article, but maybe those that have the time to do so could enlighten me: Open/StarOffice already has its own XML format that works great (and results in files a hell of a lot smaller than the same document saved as a MS.DOC)... and I doubt the OO people would mind anyone else using that format.
So is this just a committee to maintain and perhaps incrementally enhance the OO format?
Oh, how I long for the day when it will becom economically prudent for Microsoft to include OO import filters in MS Office!:)
There is a option that you can check on one of the menus that automatically moves mail you delete to the trash. It's there, I don't remember where but look for it...I use it. That thing annoyed me too until I noticed the option.
No there isn't, and I sure wish there was. You must be thinking of the "Hide Deleted Messages" (which is in the "View" menu, FYI).
Me, I like the "traditional" Trash folder. Evolution's vFolder Trash absolutely sucks, and you only have to read the Evolution mailing list archives to confirm that I'm not alone in thinking that.
I like being able to delete messages somewhat indiscriminately (keep that Inbox clean), and then if I change my mind or need some info I didn't think would be important, I can search through the trash and find it. With other mailers in the past, I would generally go back and mass-delete "trashed" messages that are more than a month or two old. I'd like to be able to do that again (or perhaps better yet, automate the process, specifying how many days is "old enough" to throw away).
Actually, I still have a real Trash folder in my IMAP store, and when I use my webmail client, that's where my deleted messages go. It's great. But with Evolution, deleted messages get flagged into a global "Trash" folder, and if I don't expunge my Inbox regularly, the Inbox gets big and ugly (==slow). If I DO expunge my Inbox, I lose everything I've ever deleted, with no chance of ever getting it back. The result? I keep LOTS of crap in my Inbox that I don't want there, because I'm afraid to delete it.
As far as the "Hide deleted messages" feature goes, that is of course indispensable using the current system. I'll admit it's also convenient to be able to "unhide" them and undelete a message that was flagged for deletion. I don't have a problem with that marking messages for later deletion at all (in fact, deleting messages for real would be terribly slow, especially with traditional single-file mbox folders). But "expunge" should never touch the Trash (unless you're looking at the Trash)--it should only clean up the current folder!
I suppose one compromise that I could deal with is if the "Expunge Folders" feature had an option to only destroy-for-all-eternity messages that are more than n days old. But there's not even that. In Evolution, when you expunge, you lose everything you ever deleted right up 'til the moment before.
If I had to give up all my gripes about Evolution but one, this would be it.
Well, apparently you can do it from Outlook (Express or not), but you have to do it under Windows. That is to say: run Mozilla under 'doze, convert the PST files (does Express really use PST? I don't think so), and then Evolution can import them from Mozilla in linux.
The problem is that lookOut files are in a proprietary format, and the only way Mozilla can do it is to take advantage of a Microsoft DLL file that--you guessed it--does not work/exist under linux;)
DMCA issues (if applicable) aside, I'm sure the *nix community as a whole (and 'doze users hoping to switch) would welcome someone writing a PST->mbx (or PST->Maildir!) converter for *nix.
The Evolution team at Ximian is very small and right now, after this release, they're focused soley on the GNOME 2 port.
That means no more new features for a while (and this applies to just about every other great idea people mentioned in this article's comments). But they're not very receptive to new ideas anyway, they usually respond (if they're in a good mood) "you want it? you code it. we're busy."
You should have a look at the wishlist items in bugzilla.ximian.com. Some of the most requested (and IMHO useful) features have sat there neglected for well over a year! So as far as a PST converter goes, I think you can pretty much forget it in the forseeable future.
All this said, Evolution is a great program, despite its flaws. It's all I've used for e-mail for over a year, and 1.2 kicks ass compared to 1.0x.
And the point is, this book doesn't have much market because for the tasks 99.99% of web developers would have use for, they could just study the source code of other web sites. The only people who should read an advanced book like this would be people trying to develop more-complex DHTML floating ads. And that is why there is going to be little market for this book.
I diagree. IMHO this is not an advanced book; I hardly what a was before I picked up the first edition (aka "The WebDev Bible") and with this book at my side I learned to do everything that was ever asked of me--including some very complex pages--and around my (still running) dot-com, they soon gave me the dubious honor of being called "the javascript king".
The book helps you to do very advanced things if you (feel the) need to, but I think it is an excellent introduction to HTML/DHTML as well. And for those who pick up new things fairly quickly, the reference section is where you'll spend most of your time, only looking at the well-written and easy-to-read earlier chapters when you're trying to understand some subtelties of CSS or something.
When learning any new language, I always look for a good reference rather than some 'please hold my hand' sort of book. I was very happy to have found it in (the first edition of) this book.
And as far as studying the source code of other web sites, yes, that can be helpful, but considering the poor coding skills of most people out there (particularly web developers, or am I being unfair?), it can also be a very bad idea. Learning by example is really only a good idea when you [know you have] have good examples.
Even with a well-thumbed copy of this book on your desk you will still find yourself looking at the source for many web pages, but only for a quick glance to figure out how something someone else wrote works (or why it doesn't).
I saw the 2nd Edition in the store the other day, and was tempted to get it but I still haven't really found the 1st Edition lacking. If I bought I'm sure I'd agree with the author of this review, however.
If you are a web developer, this should be your bible.
P.S.: Please pay attention to the bits about cross-browser compatibility. Thanks!
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1. More than anything it is the attorneys of *most* of those organizations that make us hate them!
2. "Attorneys" is not an organization
And anyone else get annoyed by the "Microsoft are working on ..." form?
Not me, especially if the speaker/writer is British. The Brits always refer to companies, bands (music groups), and other such named entities (which are composed of numerous people) in the plural.
Think the MLA Handbook is an American guide, yes? Dont' forget, American ain't the only English there is.
Ah. Curved path, of course. I didn't even bother to look at the diagram.
Not one of my brightest moments, certainly.
E)
Maybe 60 **km**, but *not* 60 miles.
Why do you say this? How far is it then, wherley?
Mapquest says it's 49.84 miles between Kewanee and Peoria so it sounds like it'd have to be more than 40km (24.8 miles). But I'm not making any statements about how far it really is between the two planetoids--I'll let someone else find that out and inform us all. And then we'll all believe it, because we read it on slashdot!
Sorry if this is redudant, but I actually searched the page @Flat/-1 before posting, to see if anyone else had already pointed this out...
s you "Last-Modified: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:55:50 GMT"
timothy said...
I can't tell from the page when exactly this was made. Whether it was truly in response to Gray's recipe or not, this site certainly provides more amusing visual aids.
Well, it's not exactly proof, but
$ HEAD http://gambiarra.conectway.com.br/svt/1.jpg
tell
Which is about 12 hours (assuming accurate clocks, heh) after the article about making Liquid N2 Sorvete was posted on slashdot. Coincidence?
*shrug*
Damn quick turn-around time, from planning an experiment, conducting it, analyzing the results, and then publishing their (photo)graphs on the web. If they were slashdot-inspired, then them Brazilian boys are certainly men of action, and I applaud their fine work.
Damn, ice cream sounds good now.
E)
I'm glad to hear (it seems) you like Opera enough to use it anyway!
Well, I am using the Sun JDK 1.3.1 on the Win98 box, and the Java-based news ticker at news.bbc.co.uk is enough to consistenly crash the machine after 10-20 minutes.
Personally I don't care, because the infrequent times I have the Win98 machine running, I still have my main linux box if I want to browse the web with Java (or at all, for that matter). Have you looked at the archives for the opera.general newsgroup, or tried discussing it there?
That's too bad. I've seen the same thing on Win98, and figured it was a combo of older OS and older JVM with a new application. But I must say, the Java support is (finally) excellent and wonderfully stable under linux =)
I was just thinking how nice it was to read an entire slashdot submission without glaring spelling or grammar gaffes. I just read it a second time through and still didn't find any (if you find one, then good for you). There are usually so many in the average four-line 'article' that they jump out at me.
/. editors who show such eloquence and good command of the language as this teenager, and/or the ability to use a spell-checker.
Now if only we could have some
=poke!= Oh! Huh? Whuzzat? Oh, sorry, I must've been dreaming. Never mind.
But wait! There are more dairy products with attitude. Much more attitude, in fact.
Milk & Cheese: Dairy Products Gone Bad!
So tmark makes a sincere statement of his own skeptical opinion (and identifies it as such), and he gets modded down as flamebait!? His lack of familiarity with RFP provoked insightful and presumably educational responses from a few people, letting those of us who had never heard of RFP know who he was.
Thank you to those who had the decency to write tmark a nice reply, rather than moderate him or her down. I hope you negative moderators get meta-modded to your own little honey pot in hell. I would have given him "+1; insightful" but it wasn't my turn.
P.S. Go ahead and slap me too (my karma can take the abuse). How about an "offtopic?" That's my favourite. Oh, and no... I don't mind if someone doubts my own words because I have a stupid handle. Skepticism is healthy.
Actually, the first "tech-preview" (alpha) release of Opera 7/linux was announced today on the opera.linux newsgroup. AFAICT there is no Bork version yet.
I have put in a request...
Their primary concerns may be about Solaris 7 or 8, but they certainly have more fundamental concerns regarding Java. For example, about modules:
I am tempted to quote the rest of item #3 of "Defining the Java Problem" for you here, but that would merely annoy those who have actually read the article rather than skimming it. These are not Solaris-only issues, are they?
Their fundamental reasoning for writing this memo may have been concerns with the Solaris implementation of Java, but I think they raise some very good points w.r.t. Java in general, and whether or not you wish to debate virtue of their complaints, statements such as "The Java system for evolving the interface (deprecation) does not serve production software very well" clearly are not Solaris-only issues.
It would seem to me that they talk mostly about Solaris because they are Sun employees primarily concerned with the success of Sun and its Solaris platform. That makes sense. Clearly they also suggest that the Solaris JVMs in particular have had inexcusable problems and a lack of support and responsible managment, but your statement that "what they were really complaining about was Solaris 7 and 8" is a rather broad generalization, wouldn't you say?
As I have been programming primarily in C for the last year, I have not struggled much with the idiosyncracies of Java for a while. Don't get me wrong. I love Java. But I think this article raises some really good issues, and honestly, makes me worry about the fate of Java when its creator can't even make it an acceptable language platform for their own internal application development.
Thanks for the insightful reply. I haven't spoken to my friend's housemate since last week, so I hadn't heard anything more than some second-hand gossip (as I admitted in my original post).
Yes, I guess some people would be inclined to pocket expensive toys and tools on the way out the door in such a situation. I've just never understood that mentality. I've had stuff given to me when a company goes under though, and that's always nice.
And also, I'm used to hearing of people getting laid off privately, one at a time. But when you're shutting down a whole office, obviously that doesn't make sense.
OK, so this is a rumor... not because I don't trust the source, but because I don't remember the exact story (yeah, so don't you trust me either). There are facts here, but I am not clear on them all.
... but one of the most surprising things for me, hearing this story, was that Midway still even existed. I didn't know. I guess I haven't been in an arcade in a while.
My good friend's housemate worked at Midway, and I first heard the news last Tuesday. I believe it was actually the day before, on Feb. 3, that the cops arrived... before the announcement was even made. Apparently it wasn't your usual, quiet, lay-off. So the police were there and then everyone was told to leave immediately. "Don't grab your stuff, don't clean out your desks, just leave." Apparently they expected trouble for some reason, and I heard some things were indeed smashed by people on their way out.
They were going to let people back to gather their belongings later in the week... one at a time, escorted and supervised. If there were really just 30 employees there (says so in the article)... why would they have expected trouble? Why would they have thrown people out so rudely? This I don't know. I'm sure this sort of thing happens all the time, but it seemed a bit strange to me, and the story made an impression on me most of all because it was Midway.
Makes me wonder what their corporate culture was like, and if most of the employees were wizened, old, maladjusted sociopaths who had lived so completely inside video games for the past years they might not react well to having themselves unplugged rather than just reset. My friend's housemate doesn't fit that description. Well, he's young anyway. *shrug*
No telling how many thousands of quarters went from my pockets into Midway machines back in the '80's
2 or 3 minutes after we left my friend realized he may be able to take the RAM and actually read the data off of it somehow, assuming it was still saved.
;-) I mean no offense, really... I'm sure you meant to say "ROM" or "Flash RAM" or something...?
Excuse me for interrupting, but would you consider it rude... if I called you, your friend, and the person who modded your post up, all boneheads?
I don't care if something is "demonstrably", "good", "bad", "wrong" or "right" by your subjective standards-- I'm 100% in support of 'giving people what they want' if:
Do you really have a problem with that?
Patent questions aside, I would think that: If CMYK support is currently a vital requirement for any graphics program to even be considered useable by a large number of professional artists, then whatever programming time would be 'squandered' on this "inferior" (but obviously useful) technology would contribute much to many artists, and in turn to the success of Free software.
If Adobe truly holds a stranglehold patent on a monopolistic technology, then I'd also be jumping up and down saying the printing industry should open up and accept a free "technology" (RGB RGB, rah rah rah). Even better if it's as good as the untouchable one. You say it's superior? Hooray!
In any case, friend, I think you should take a chill pill.
Then, tomorrow, go start your new business: "AC's Gimpy Print Shop" (all CMYK services cheerfully declined!).
Good luck with your new endeavour!
Sincerely,
SYR
Are you kidding?
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Give me a break! MS is always devious and nasty. I mean, just look at this recent advert. Such a sneaky, underhanded attempt to make more lusers _appreciate_ the BSOD!
tsk, tsk, tsk...
http://www.bastardidentro.com/misc/bastar
Julio Ojeda-Zapata points to her
Um, are you guys sure Julio isn't a guy?
So I take it that no one is feeling feisty and mean-spirited enough to mod #4816268 down as... (oh, I dare not say it!)...um, ok, I'll say it... REDUNDANT?
the idea that this technology can be used in some Orwellian fashion to understand that secretly you are afraid of rats, or are a pedophile or like the look of women eating juicy mangoes is not going to happen anytime soon. It is unlikely that that level of analysis is ever going to be possible.
Mmmmmm.... women eating juicy mangoes.... mmmm... huh, whuzzat? Oh no, I'm on slashdot!?
When I lived in Italy ('98-'99), it cost more for me to call a cell phone from my land-line than it did to call another land-line. Most of my friends dropped their land-lines altogether, which was really annoying, because to call a cell phone from a regular line (during the day) cost nearly as much as calling the USA.
I believe cell-cell rates were much cheaper, which would certainly be one encouragement to get a telefonino once a large number of people already had them (and yes, I think the status symbol angle was very real as well). I never did get one until I moved back to the US.
In any case, one thing that is very different between Italy and the US is (when it comes to cell phones) is that the caller pays the charges, not the receiver. I may be wrong here, the receiver may pay some airtime charges, but I don't think so.
I remember kids in caffés playing this dumb game where they would ring each other (from across the table!)... the caller would try to hang up before the other one picked up the phone. If the receiver picked up the phone first, the caller would have to pay for the call.
One GOOD thing about the cell phone system in Italy (and other countries, I'm sure) is that cell phone systems get their own area codes so there is no need to cut up existing area codes because they run out of numbers, as has happened in the US, resulting in lots of hassle and waste, as companies would have to throw away tons of stationery with the old area code, etc.
In proper slashdot tradition, I haven't read the article, but maybe those that have the time to do so could enlighten me: Open/StarOffice already has its own XML format that works great (and results in files a hell of a lot smaller than the same document saved as a MS.DOC)... and I doubt the OO people would mind anyone else using that format.
:)
So is this just a committee to maintain and perhaps incrementally enhance the OO format?
Oh, how I long for the day when it will becom economically prudent for Microsoft to include OO import filters in MS Office!
There is a option that you can check on one of the menus that automatically moves mail you delete to the trash. It's there, I don't remember where but look for it...I use it. That thing annoyed me too until I noticed the option.
No there isn't, and I sure wish there was. You must be thinking of the "Hide Deleted Messages" (which is in the "View" menu, FYI).
Me, I like the "traditional" Trash folder. Evolution's vFolder Trash absolutely sucks, and you only have to read the Evolution mailing list archives to confirm that I'm not alone in thinking that.
I like being able to delete messages somewhat indiscriminately (keep that Inbox clean), and then if I change my mind or need some info I didn't think would be important, I can search through the trash and find it. With other mailers in the past, I would generally go back and mass-delete "trashed" messages that are more than a month or two old. I'd like to be able to do that again (or perhaps better yet, automate the process, specifying how many days is "old enough" to throw away).
Actually, I still have a real Trash folder in my IMAP store, and when I use my webmail client, that's where my deleted messages go. It's great. But with Evolution, deleted messages get flagged into a global "Trash" folder, and if I don't expunge my Inbox regularly, the Inbox gets big and ugly (==slow). If I DO expunge my Inbox, I lose everything I've ever deleted, with no chance of ever getting it back. The result? I keep LOTS of crap in my Inbox that I don't want there, because I'm afraid to delete it.
As far as the "Hide deleted messages" feature goes, that is of course indispensable using the current system. I'll admit it's also convenient to be able to "unhide" them and undelete a message that was flagged for deletion. I don't have a problem with that marking messages for later deletion at all (in fact, deleting messages for real would be terribly slow, especially with traditional single-file mbox folders). But "expunge" should never touch the Trash (unless you're looking at the Trash)--it should only clean up the current folder!
I suppose one compromise that I could deal with is if the "Expunge Folders" feature had an option to only destroy-for-all-eternity messages that are more than n days old. But there's not even that. In Evolution, when you expunge, you lose everything you ever deleted right up 'til the moment before.
If I had to give up all my gripes about Evolution but one, this would be it.
And yes, sigh.... all gripes aside, Evo rocks!
Well, apparently you can do it from Outlook (Express or not), but you have to do it under Windows. That is to say: run Mozilla under 'doze, convert the PST files (does Express really use PST? I don't think so), and then Evolution can import them from Mozilla in linux.
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The problem is that lookOut files are in a proprietary format, and the only way Mozilla can do it is to take advantage of a Microsoft DLL file that--you guessed it--does not work/exist under linux
DMCA issues (if applicable) aside, I'm sure the *nix community as a whole (and 'doze users hoping to switch) would welcome someone writing a PST->mbx (or PST->Maildir!) converter for *nix.
The Evolution team at Ximian is very small and right now, after this release, they're focused soley on the GNOME 2 port.
That means no more new features for a while (and this applies to just about every other great idea people mentioned in this article's comments). But they're not very receptive to new ideas anyway, they usually respond (if they're in a good mood) "you want it? you code it. we're busy."
You should have a look at the wishlist items in bugzilla.ximian.com. Some of the most requested (and IMHO useful) features have sat there neglected for well over a year! So as far as a PST converter goes, I think you can pretty much forget it in the forseeable future.
All this said, Evolution is a great program, despite its flaws. It's all I've used for e-mail for over a year, and 1.2 kicks ass compared to 1.0x.
And the point is, this book doesn't have much market because for the tasks 99.99% of web developers would have use for, they could just study the source code of other web sites. The only people who should read an advanced book like this would be people trying to develop more-complex DHTML floating ads. And that is why there is going to be little market for this book.
I diagree. IMHO this is not an advanced book; I hardly what a was before I picked up the first edition (aka "The WebDev Bible") and with this book at my side I learned to do everything that was ever asked of me--including some very complex pages--and around my (still running) dot-com, they soon gave me the dubious honor of being called "the javascript king".
The book helps you to do very advanced things if you (feel the) need to, but I think it is an excellent introduction to HTML/DHTML as well. And for those who pick up new things fairly quickly, the reference section is where you'll spend most of your time, only looking at the well-written and easy-to-read earlier chapters when you're trying to understand some subtelties of CSS or something.
When learning any new language, I always look for a good reference rather than some 'please hold my hand' sort of book. I was very happy to have found it in (the first edition of) this book.
And as far as studying the source code of other web sites, yes, that can be helpful, but considering the poor coding skills of most people out there (particularly web developers, or am I being unfair?), it can also be a very bad idea. Learning by example is really only a good idea when you [know you have] have good examples.
Even with a well-thumbed copy of this book on your desk you will still find yourself looking at the source for many web pages, but only for a quick glance to figure out how something someone else wrote works (or why it doesn't).
I saw the 2nd Edition in the store the other day, and was tempted to get it but I still haven't really found the 1st Edition lacking. If I bought I'm sure I'd agree with the author of this review, however.
If you are a web developer, this should be your bible.
P.S.: Please pay attention to the bits about cross-browser compatibility.
Thanks!