we've progressed where everyone regardless of race, color and creed are equal in the eyes of the law.
If you look through history you'll find this same retarded right-winger argument at every milestone. For one thing, homosexuals are NOT equal in the eyes of the law and even those who are "equal" are subject to the law's interpretation and enforcement, which is often less than ideal.
If people are poor (at least in America) it's their own damn fault. They should work harder and get educations, not look for government handouts.
So poor people should just go out and get a job? Are you hiring? wake up, our economy is far from perfect. Every time a manufacturing plant moves to Mexico, a city is destroyed. Thank god for NAFTA and unregulated trade, eh? You propose we don't need any progressive reforms? Tell that to the people writing software for FREE because there's no other way to compete with Microsoft.
Socialism just doesn't work, look at history.
Uh... you mean communism? Yeah, that didn't go so well, but communism isn't the ultimate goal of social reforms. If you look at history, you'll find that a simplistic black and white approach never works, whether it's to the left or the right.
A lot of widows and orphans have their retirement accounts with investment houses that hold large amounts of Microsoft stock.
If Microsoft gets torn apart, their stock is going to drop like a rock. The people whose 401Ks and 403Bs hold MSFT will take the brunt of it.
Since when were people assured that their money was safe in stocks?!?!?! No one is forcing you to be involved with microsoft's stocks, only their software:) Shareholders should take responsibility for the actions of their company. If they don't represent the crimes microsoft is guilty of, then they should sell their stock. And if you're talking about mutual funds, same difference. If the death of microsoft toples a mutual fund, then they were very very very very bad investors. This is extremely unlikely. AT&T is still around, and breaking up microsoft would be much easier than it was to break them up. In the long run, (to use your emotionally loaded argument) it's neccesary so that we don't have even more starving orphans and widows. Microsoft hurts the overall economy by cornering the market.
There are a lot of people rooting for Microsoft. The people who root against them are the same as people who rooted for the beating of Reginald Denny.
Oh lord, I can't get over this quote. Reginald Denny was a fucking INNOCENT!!! Microsoft is the AGGRESSOR!!! This would be a lot more like the grand dragon of the kkk getting pulled out of his truck and beaten, and yes, I would be loudly applauding that. I didn't applaud the beating of Reginald Denny, and unlike you who seems to hold some reservations on the subject, I thought it was an utter disgrace. To me, racism is racism. You don't attack innocent people because of their race, period. Anyway, now I'm as off-topic. It seems like everyone thinks the economy will tank even further if microsoft is broken up. What we're all failing to notice is that microsoft is stifiling competition in the market. They're also sweeping into new markets. If anything, breaking them up will HELP the economy. There'll be more market to pass arround, and trust me, there are a lot of companies out there that can do a lot better than microsoft has in the OS market.
Support a very funny and very revealing ad to conserve oil use. I always thought those terrorism/drug ads were pretty ill-founded, but no one can argue with the terrorism/oil connection. Not too mention that this is very very ironic, considering bush's involvement in both the first ad and the second phenomena. They definately have my money.
The fact is that/. finds MS stories juicy. The more the details are twisted and bent, the more contraversial the story is. This means more people commenting, and co-incidentally, more banner ads getting exposed.
Meanwhile, in the Slashdot Inc. CEO's office, Taco rolls arround on a huge pile of ad-revenue, smoking a cigar and laughing maniacally!
Gotta love this kind of "objective" bashing. Do you expect to find a microsoft-friendly atmosphere here? Of course they don't get the benefit of the doubt, after all the shit they've pulled do they honestly deserve it? As long as we're giving credit where credit is due, Slashdot is much fairer to MS than their PR zombies are to linux.
But also let us have our opinion about it. We are free to say it.
mmm-hmm, letsee, here's the message you're replying to:
Let them have what ever interface they want. This is Linux. You are free to change it.
So, what part of this message is saying you aren't free to offer your opinion, exactly? I assume you posted your reply for fear of having this freedom stifled, since freedom of speech/opinion is typically thought of as implicit around here. It seems to me that all he is doing is offering his opinion. Is he free to do that?
Ah, who to send my money to? Wal-Mart or Microsoft? How about I just write a check to The Baby Torture and Cannibalism Society, I hear they make great inexpensive PC's
What's worse, is that now that someone making "subversive speech" can be labeled a terrorist, they can be treated as an enemy of the state, regardless of their citizenship or the rights therein guaranteed by the Constitution.
which means no lawyer or speedy trial and an indefinite detention as an enemy combatant in a country US citizens aren't allowed to visit.
OK, I just read about these numbers for the first time just now, but I'd guess that there isn't a lot of significance to them. I mean, if you're looking at the digits, then it becomes relevant that you're using base-10. Usually in these sorts of cases, you only find important stuff in dealing with base-2. But then again, this is just my ever-so-slightly educated guess. If anyone really does know how these numbers may be significant, I'd like to hear it!
If this takes off, what will happen to all the people like the background characters, costume makers, construction, caterers, cameramen, model makers, casting companies, etc.
I suppose they'll be replaced with programmers and computer artists. So what's wrong with that? It's how the world has always worked, and pretty much the only way to live with progress. I guess we could all become satisfied with our current level of technological advancement, but c'mon... Besides, it's only going to hurt the industry, not destory it. I highly doubt even most people from this generation would forgo all real actors for computer ones.
This is insightful?!?! The mods are hittin the pipe again...
Do you realize that for the past two months (or however long she's been missing) it's been on the news almost every day in Milwaukee?
so... you liver in milwaukee, of fcuking course it's going to be covered there. I don't think you understand. The point is, it's not getting equal coverage nationaly. And it isn't. I didn't even know someone had been kidnapped in Milwaukee until now, but I've heard about the smart case nearly every day. Sounds like a double standard to me.
gcj, as someone else mentioned, is from the GNU project. It can even compile byte-code to machine code. Also, some JVM's are faster than others. A JVM with a just-in-time compiler (JIT) runs much faster. btw, I have an athlon 750 and when I run jedit, I don't notice any slowdowns.
He's not saying anything bad about islam, he's just playing on public opinion. His point is that most people in america wouldn't be to happy about "In Allah We Trust" because, to them, the word "Allah" means the islamic god, and they don't want to be represented by it since they don't believe in it. So Allah means god in arabic, big deal, thats irrelevant because that's not how it would be pervieced by most americans. My handle when playing wolfensiten is usually "Allah" and I continually get kicked of of servers for using it. He's just drawing a paralell to the current situation. Maybe you're to dense to notice that.
After looking arround at most of the posts on this site, I don't think you have to worry too much about panic over this. Well, at least on this site:) Perhaps you live near where I did in Indiana... There might be some good counter arguments to pulling that phrase out of our money, but yours is silly. The constitution dosn't tell us to seperate religion only from government utilities which everyone is forced to use... The idea that you're not forced to use cash is a stretch anyway. Not every homeless person I know has an American Express card, but they do have some cash from time to time.
What you are postulating as a universal principle is actually a specific feature of the American judicial system
Americans didn't adopt this "feature" because they thought it might be a good idea. It's not some arbitrary preference. There are several reasons why innocence is presumed and guilt is proven. If you're presumed guilty, how can you expect to have a fair trial? If you really are innocent, you shouldn't have to prove your innocence just because some jackass decides to use the system to their advantage and throw a frivilous suit against you. God help you if someone in the government dosn't like you. What you say may work if the courts are fair, but saying that decisions made by the courts are always fair is fucking crazy. The courts should error in your favor.
Just because the french think differently dosn't mean this is not a universal principle. There is such a thing as "being wrong". For instance, our good buddies in Saudi Arabia think women should be required to completely cover their bodies in public. Is gender equality not a universal principle?
It's not? Regardless of what you feel your rights are, it's certainly a solution. You can't say boycotts can't work. It's a fact that if enough people stopped buying CD's from the RIAA that they'd either have to change their policies or dry up and die. However, enough people feel the way you do such that this will probably never happen. So, if you really disagree with the RIAA, Ticketmaster, Microsoft, whatever... ask yourself if you think you'd really rather live in a world where they don't exist, and what sorts of actions damage or perpetuate them. It's like recycling. You don't make a difference by yourself, but that's where the moral obligation comes in!:) The recycling effort is quite signifigant, and thats because many people don't reason the way you do. Instead they do what they know is right. Perhaps if more act in ways they know can collectively make a difference, we wouldn't have to whine about the long dead RIAA, MPAA, whatever...
Personally, I'm not sure where people's "moral obligations" lie, but I do have a problem with inconsistencies. You shouldn't preach that it's ok to support these companies/associations if you really think they're a bad idea. It's certainly not good to support them, the only issue left to be decided is whether its bad (and how bad) or ok to support them. It's certainly good not to support them, so if you wish to stay in the clear, you probably ought to boycott them.
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I agree that I think this won't work very well, but I believe for the opposite reason you do. I think it's too easy. First off, car alarms go off mostly for no reason, not because someone is stealing a car. If you see a site distibuting pirated software, it would be more like watching a car driving away with the alarm going off. Now, imagine everyone has a little button on their pants that would alert police that a car is being stolen and give them all the necessary information and evidence to capture and prosecute the car thief. I think people would find this so easy as to be an obligation if they were to witness a car theft.
The problem is, it's too easy. These people are kidding themselves if they think that they're not going to get DOS'ed to hell. There will be plenty of erronious submissions from people who mean well but made a mistake, but there will be millions more from people who just want to fuck them over, and they'll win. Ultimately, a human will have to examine each one of these reports so it will be very very easy to flood them to the point that it's not worth it anymore. Besides all that, how often will some honest person run into pirated software anyway, unless they're specifically looking for it just to bust some pirates. But, this would be more like what you're talking about. No one is going to put forth the effort to locate software pirates just to turn them in unless they're getting paid for it.
> You can view this DNA computer as simply just > being a new architecture, like Intel or SPARC
nope, Intel and SPARC are serial architectures. This DNA computing is fundementally different. It's actually trying solutions in parallel. Since all the DNA chains are trying to link together at once, you can view this as simultaneous computations to the order of some number relative to the ammount of DNA you've got in your tube. In this way, you can view the DNA computations as more relative to quantum computing. The only problem is, there's a lot of time and money involved in setting up the ccomputation, and in finding your solutions from the muck. Whoever figures out a way to use DNA to crack encryption codes will probably really really really want to figure out what's in those files!
I read an article on this last year for a class I was taking, so it's not really new, as this article states. You should take a look arround the web for a good article and give it a read, it's very interesting.
I remember reading an article about this in a class I took arround this time last year. And it wasn't even a new article... Very interesting tho, nice implementation of parallel computing:)
So if a book on slash gets published, should slashdot purposely not post a story on it to avoid claims of self-promotion? It's not like it's a story about slash being the only viable solution for your weblog needs or anything. Maybe we're making a knee-jerk reaction here...
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we've progressed where everyone regardless of race, color and creed are equal in the eyes of the law.
If you look through history you'll find this same retarded right-winger argument at every milestone. For one thing, homosexuals are NOT equal in the eyes of the law and even those who are "equal" are subject to the law's interpretation and enforcement, which is often less than ideal.
If people are poor (at least in America) it's their own damn fault. They should work harder and get educations, not look for government handouts.
So poor people should just go out and get a job? Are you hiring? wake up, our economy is far from perfect. Every time a manufacturing plant moves to Mexico, a city is destroyed. Thank god for NAFTA and unregulated trade, eh? You propose we don't need any progressive reforms? Tell that to the people writing software for FREE because there's no other way to compete with Microsoft.
Socialism just doesn't work, look at history.
Uh... you mean communism? Yeah, that didn't go so well, but communism isn't the ultimate goal of social reforms. If you look at history, you'll find that a simplistic black and white approach never works, whether it's to the left or the right.
If a lot more people become vegetarians, then you'd need to grow more vegetables
What do you think they feed the livestock?? air?! Raising farm animals takes a lot more grain than rasing grain does.
A lot of widows and orphans have their retirement accounts with investment houses that hold large amounts of Microsoft stock.
:) Shareholders should take responsibility for the actions of their company. If they don't represent the crimes microsoft is guilty of, then they should sell their stock. And if you're talking about mutual funds, same difference. If the death of microsoft toples a mutual fund, then they were very very very very bad investors. This is extremely unlikely. AT&T is still around, and breaking up microsoft would be much easier than it was to break them up. In the long run, (to use your emotionally loaded argument) it's neccesary so that we don't have even more starving orphans and widows. Microsoft hurts the overall economy by cornering the market.
If Microsoft gets torn apart, their stock is going to drop like a rock. The people whose 401Ks and 403Bs hold MSFT will take the brunt of it.
Since when were people assured that their money was safe in stocks?!?!?! No one is forcing you to be involved with microsoft's stocks, only their software
There are a lot of people rooting for Microsoft. The people who root against them are the same as people who rooted for the beating of Reginald Denny.
Oh lord, I can't get over this quote. Reginald Denny was a fucking INNOCENT!!! Microsoft is the AGGRESSOR!!! This would be a lot more like the grand dragon of the kkk getting pulled out of his truck and beaten, and yes, I would be loudly applauding that. I didn't applaud the beating of Reginald Denny, and unlike you who seems to hold some reservations on the subject, I thought it was an utter disgrace. To me, racism is racism. You don't attack innocent people because of their race, period. Anyway, now I'm as off-topic. It seems like everyone thinks the economy will tank even further if microsoft is broken up. What we're all failing to notice is that microsoft is stifiling competition in the market. They're also sweeping into new markets. If anything, breaking them up will HELP the economy. There'll be more market to pass arround, and trust me, there are a lot of companies out there that can do a lot better than microsoft has in the OS market.
Support a very funny and very revealing ad to conserve oil use. I always thought those terrorism/drug ads were pretty ill-founded, but no one can argue with the terrorism/oil connection. Not too mention that this is very very ironic, considering bush's involvement in both the first ad and the second phenomena. They definately have my money.
people as dumb as the person you corrected, I guess. It has already been proven that they exist on slashdot :)
The fact is that /. finds MS stories juicy. The more the details are twisted and bent, the more contraversial the story is. This means more people commenting, and co-incidentally, more banner ads getting exposed.
Meanwhile, in the Slashdot Inc. CEO's office, Taco rolls arround on a huge pile of ad-revenue, smoking a cigar and laughing maniacally!
Gotta love this kind of "objective" bashing. Do you expect to find a microsoft-friendly atmosphere here? Of course they don't get the benefit of the doubt, after all the shit they've pulled do they honestly deserve it? As long as we're giving credit where credit is due, Slashdot is much fairer to MS than their PR zombies are to linux.
But also let us have our opinion about it. We are free to say it.
mmm-hmm, letsee, here's the message you're replying to:
Let them have what ever interface they want. This is Linux. You are free to change it.
So, what part of this message is saying you aren't free to offer your opinion, exactly? I assume you posted your reply for fear of having this freedom stifled, since freedom of speech/opinion is typically thought of as implicit around here. It seems to me that all he is doing is offering his opinion. Is he free to do that?
Ah, who to send my money to? Wal-Mart or Microsoft? How about I just write a check to The Baby Torture and Cannibalism Society, I hear they make great inexpensive PC's
What's worse, is that now that someone making "subversive speech" can be labeled a terrorist, they can be treated as an enemy of the state, regardless of their citizenship or the rights therein guaranteed by the Constitution.
which means no lawyer or speedy trial and an indefinite detention as an enemy combatant in a country US citizens aren't allowed to visit.
yeah, but having 10 fingers isn't important to general mathematics. In this context, it's arbitrary.
OK, I just read about these numbers for the first time just now, but I'd guess that there isn't a lot of significance to them. I mean, if you're looking at the digits, then it becomes relevant that you're using base-10. Usually in these sorts of cases, you only find important stuff in dealing with base-2. But then again, this is just my ever-so-slightly educated guess. If anyone really does know how these numbers may be significant, I'd like to hear it!
I suppose they'll be replaced with programmers and computer artists. So what's wrong with that? It's how the world has always worked, and pretty much the only way to live with progress. I guess we could all become satisfied with our current level of technological advancement, but c'mon... Besides, it's only going to hurt the industry, not destory it. I highly doubt even most people from this generation would forgo all real actors for computer ones.
oh go home AC troll. I know plenty of intelligent people who have made fucking typos. You know what he meant, so stop whining.
yup. looks like someone forgot to stty erase ^h
This is insightful?!?! The mods are hittin the pipe again...
Do you realize that for the past two months (or however long she's been missing) it's been on the news almost every day in Milwaukee?
so... you liver in milwaukee, of fcuking course it's going to be covered there. I don't think you understand. The point is, it's not getting equal coverage nationaly. And it isn't. I didn't even know someone had been kidnapped in Milwaukee until now, but I've heard about the smart case nearly every day. Sounds like a double standard to me.
gcj, as someone else mentioned, is from the GNU project. It can even compile byte-code to machine code. Also, some JVM's are faster than others. A JVM with a just-in-time compiler (JIT) runs much faster. btw, I have an athlon 750 and when I run jedit, I don't notice any slowdowns.
He's not saying anything bad about islam, he's just playing on public opinion. His point is that most people in america wouldn't be to happy about "In Allah We Trust" because, to them, the word "Allah" means the islamic god, and they don't want to be represented by it since they don't believe in it. So Allah means god in arabic, big deal, thats irrelevant because that's not how it would be pervieced by most americans. My handle when playing wolfensiten is usually "Allah" and I continually get kicked of of servers for using it. He's just drawing a paralell to the current situation. Maybe you're to dense to notice that.
After looking arround at most of the posts on this site, I don't think you have to worry too much about panic over this. Well, at least on this site :) Perhaps you live near where I did in Indiana... There might be some good counter arguments to pulling that phrase out of our money, but yours is silly. The constitution dosn't tell us to seperate religion only from government utilities which everyone is forced to use... The idea that you're not forced to use cash is a stretch anyway. Not every homeless person I know has an American Express card, but they do have some cash from time to time.
What you are postulating as a universal principle is actually a specific feature of the American judicial system
Americans didn't adopt this "feature" because they thought it might be a good idea. It's not some arbitrary preference. There are several reasons why innocence is presumed and guilt is proven. If you're presumed guilty, how can you expect to have a fair trial? If you really are innocent, you shouldn't have to prove your innocence just because some jackass decides to use the system to their advantage and throw a frivilous suit against you. God help you if someone in the government dosn't like you. What you say may work if the courts are fair, but saying that decisions made by the courts are always fair is fucking crazy. The courts should error in your favor.
Just because the french think differently dosn't mean this is not a universal principle. There is such a thing as "being wrong". For instance, our good buddies in Saudi Arabia think women should be required to completely cover their bodies in public. Is gender equality not a universal principle?
It's not? Regardless of what you feel your rights are, it's certainly a solution. You can't say boycotts can't work. It's a fact that if enough people stopped buying CD's from the RIAA that they'd either have to change their policies or dry up and die. However, enough people feel the way you do such that this will probably never happen. So, if you really disagree with the RIAA, Ticketmaster, Microsoft, whatever... ask yourself if you think you'd really rather live in a world where they don't exist, and what sorts of actions damage or perpetuate them. It's like recycling. You don't make a difference by yourself, but that's where the moral obligation comes in! :) The recycling effort is quite signifigant, and thats because many people don't reason the way you do. Instead they do what they know is right. Perhaps if more act in ways they know can collectively make a difference, we wouldn't have to whine about the long dead RIAA, MPAA, whatever...
Personally, I'm not sure where people's "moral obligations" lie, but I do have a problem with inconsistencies. You shouldn't preach that it's ok to support these companies/associations if you really think they're a bad idea. It's certainly not good to support them, the only issue left to be decided is whether its bad (and how bad) or ok to support them. It's certainly good not to support them, so if you wish to stay in the clear, you probably ought to boycott them.
I agree that I think this won't work very well, but I believe for the opposite reason you do. I think it's too easy. First off, car alarms go off mostly for no reason, not because someone is stealing a car. If you see a site distibuting pirated software, it would be more like watching a car driving away with the alarm going off. Now, imagine everyone has a little button on their pants that would alert police that a car is being stolen and give them all the necessary information and evidence to capture and prosecute the car thief. I think people would find this so easy as to be an obligation if they were to witness a car theft.
The problem is, it's too easy. These people are kidding themselves if they think that they're not going to get DOS'ed to hell. There will be plenty of erronious submissions from people who mean well but made a mistake, but there will be millions more from people who just want to fuck them over, and they'll win. Ultimately, a human will have to examine each one of these reports so it will be very very easy to flood them to the point that it's not worth it anymore. Besides all that, how often will some honest person run into pirated software anyway, unless they're specifically looking for it just to bust some pirates. But, this would be more like what you're talking about. No one is going to put forth the effort to locate software pirates just to turn them in unless they're getting paid for it.
For those interested, salon had a simmilar article a few days ago.
> You can view this DNA computer as simply just
> being a new architecture, like Intel or SPARC
nope, Intel and SPARC are serial architectures. This DNA computing is fundementally different. It's actually trying solutions in parallel. Since all the DNA chains are trying to link together at once, you can view this as simultaneous computations to the order of some number relative to the ammount of DNA you've got in your tube. In this way, you can view the DNA computations as more relative to quantum computing. The only problem is, there's a lot of time and money involved in setting up the ccomputation, and in finding your solutions from the muck. Whoever figures out a way to use DNA to crack encryption codes will probably really really really want to figure out what's in those files!
I read an article on this last year for a class I was taking, so it's not really new, as this article states. You should take a look arround the web for a good article and give it a read, it's very interesting.
I remember reading an article about this in a class I took arround this time last year. And it wasn't even a new article... Very interesting tho, nice implementation of parallel computing :)
So if a book on slash gets published, should slashdot purposely not post a story on it to avoid claims of self-promotion? It's not like it's a story about slash being the only viable solution for your weblog needs or anything. Maybe we're making a knee-jerk reaction here...