This may come as a shock, but a ton of people have *NEVER HEARD* of google. It's the web page I send people to here at work when they are having connectivity problems because I know it won't be cached. Yahoo is banking on this, as well as the fact that people who use the service won't want to change. Yahoo has dropped a ton of money on publicity, how much has google dropped?
The common unwashed masses will use this...watch and see...
Oh boy, not another death where a bunch of people get together?
While it is sad, the loss of human life, this had absolutely jack shit to do with the location. Anywhere a large group of young people (hell even middleaged people) gather, there is a good chance someone will get hurt or killed. It's human nature. Putting a moratorium on the i-net cafes won't do a damned thing.
"Now if you actually look at my post you'll see that it's your parotting of the hundred posts previous to yours that parotted the hundred posts before them of the exact same phrases, that I dislike; you can think for yourself and say something original can't you (at least jumble up the words or something). "
Ok, if you think I am just parroting crap, that's your opinion and you are absolutely entitled to it. However, if we are to be productive and think before we respond as you request, then rather than slam me for what I had to say, wouldn't it be better to ignore it and post something enlightening?
I can concede you have a point in that it is harped up a bit here. I was not trying to beat a dead horse, merely making a statement.
I think a lot of people are like this....
until someone comes along and does something horrible to them. Then they change their toon fast. I am not saying this against you Aceticon, but you know it's true. People scream for freedoms until they get abused by it and then the song changes.
Just a thought.
Rant time:
Cut and paste? I think not my friend. I served in the Marine Corps for 5 years. I have been all over the world, and have seen what kind of conditions other people live in. You have no idea how good you have it. People like ME have defended that right since this country was founded. Hundreds of thousands have died for this right. If you disagree with it, fine, but don't try to slam me for something you don't have a fucking clue about.
Damn, now you got me all pissed off...
Does it? Depends on the person
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It does both. If I am interested in something, I let my friends know about it. If they like it, more often than not, we will check it out together. A perfect example of this is muds. I know most here have probably dabbled at a mud or two back in the day, so this hopefully will stay somewhat on topic. I was a fledgling netizen in the early 90's. A friend of mine introduced me to a mud, and I watched him play for a while. I soon became interested in this, and we started playing together, me on one pc, him on the other. Soon, we introduced other people to it. More and more people joined us, and we would have mud gatherings.
Now, that is an example of how you can get a group online doing something together. For the opposite example, when IRC first came out, that was most definetely something I did on my own, as I didn't want to take the abuse from my friends when they would read a response or something. IRC required a bit of privacy. No big deal. The bottom line IMO is if you are typically a closed person with few friends outside of your computer life, then chances are you surf alone. If you have friends outside of the net that are interested in you, then you will do stuff together. Loners will be alone, those that aren't won't. Or something like that.
Anyhow, my $.03
"Really you think the KKK shou have the right to assemble?"
Actually yes I do, for otherwise, a lot of people would have died in vain protecting this right they so often abuse. For the record, I ABHOR everything the KK stands for. I personally would be glad if they never existed. But, just because I disagree with their views, doesn't mean they don't have the right to do what they wish. (within the laws of course)
I don't necessarily agree with the so and so sucks.com mentality, but it is a freedom of expression issue. Just because I hate everything the KKK stands for, doesn't mean I won't defend their right to assemble, etc. This is, IMO, similar. Hopefully this is a small step for the online community towards a more democratic society.
Can someone please clue me into why people do this?
I don't quite understand this mentality. I have never done something bad like this simply because I could. Am I a rarity in this world? Do these kids need a hug? Why would you do this? Feeling "elite" because you can knock down an ISP? Take your energy and do something positive with it. IMO, this is petty and retarded. Maybe these script kiddies can go knock down a hospital or something next, hey why not, it doesn't hurt anyone right?
RIGHT?
forking iceholes.
My level 60 Knight finally has enough of his temp job.
>Your bash sends the bossman sprawling!
>You TERMINATE the bossman.
>You TERMINATE the bossman.
>You TERMINATE the bossman.
>You TERMINATE the bossman.
the bossman is incapacitated and will die if not soon aided. The bossman is dead. You get one lousy experience point.
tee-hee
that the e-book format won't go over very well. I would like to think it would but thinking hurts and I have done too much of that today already.
I have read the e-book format, and I can honestly say I hated it. There is something about being able to pick up the book (comic or otherwise) and flip through the pages. It seems a little more intimate that way. (OK, waiting for +4 funny post to follow that comment)
So I suppose ruggedized machines are out of the question. To be honest, you are rather limited (it would seem to me) in what you can do. You stated above that a lot of them have pc's in the home, so I would assume that most also have a connection to the net, so your idea of term server sounds good in that case. Hard luck for those that don't have a modem or other type connection. The kicker would be how far can you stretch your budget? You can get w2k term server running on a relatively low speed machine, and allow them the use of their own machines, OR, you could use several dumb terminals allowing access in (again, nothing fancy, just good enough to not hinder their learning.) The sad fact is, you might want to keep the OS the same. (meaning MS in this case, as you stated the majority probably will be using MS products. Also, the truly interested will be able to make their own decisions just like you and I did, with a little help from you of course) The reason I say this is it will be a pain in the you-know-what to get various flavors to hook into one another. If you are also heading into what I call Croc Hunter Territory, do two things, make sure everything is secured properly, i.e. tied down, bolted, etc., and bring Suie the dog to chase hogs:)
The bottom line is, don't make it hard on your self. Keep things fairly simple, and you should do fine. One other option, then I shut up, if there is a military base near you, you might be able to get some hardened cases for storage during the trips from community to community. Contact your local PR guy or gal, they should be willing to help, and in fact might donate some equipment (The military loves easy GOOD press)
Ok, have fun, I would love to be doing this, sounds like a neat gig.
We need a little more info on this. How big is their budget? How far does the vehicle need to go? What type of terrain? I ask the last one because I worked for the school system in Nashville for awhile, there are some really remote communities there.
As far as OS goes, I would show just about all that you can, I would even include *shudder* MS products...if you can give some more info, I think I can add some to your conversation.;-)
We are sorry that we can't squeeze more money out of this poor war-stricken nation in their time of Economic rebuilding. This will effect our share-holders bottom line, and this cannot happen. Sounds pretty much like the nice-speak in the post, no?
*snort*
Ok, after reading other posters comments, I see that the program was not as benign as I thought. That still doesn't change the fact that he could have conceivably (sp?) spent more time in jail for a PROGRAM than someone who committed murder, rape, arson, etc. That is still ridiculous to me.
Damn I can't spell today.
He originally faced 30 YEARS?????
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Jesus, folks,
Our government needs a head dunking. 30 years for a benign program on a few machines, (I live near there, it isn't a large campus) as opposed to 6-10 for MURDER? Hot damn, he didn't kill anybody....let's just be really glad he got off "light"
Aunt Tillie told me to quit worrying about what she was doing and to eat my nice apple pie.
Seriously though, who is he to say? If people are that interested, then they will. If not, they won't.
Time for coffee
I thought it read Compaqflash. I was like, "why the hell would anyone wanna use Compaq? They are mainly proprietary."
*snort*
Ah, time to make the donuts.
Actually wasn't talking about the actual vehicles themselves, I was talking about being safe in the sense of not being held-up, stabbed, shot or worse. I also enjoy the fact that I don't have to ride next to a smelly person, person that may be talking to themselves, etc. It is my choice, so don't get all high and mighty on me on this.
peace
Your average geek doesn't work in an organization with a million other employees. This is called STANDARDS. Yes, there are a ton of them out there for really retarded things, nough said on that. Most government documentation does make sense though. The reason stuff is this way is that the government has the mentality that if you were to do tomorrow, so-and-so down the hall could step up and do your job. That's why.
Slashdot Mirror
For the love of God,
PLEASE INNOVATE!!! Don't do the standard all in one hand held, do something unique...well hell, something Woz like even
This may come as a shock, but a ton of people have *NEVER HEARD* of google. It's the web page I send people to here at work when they are having connectivity problems because I know it won't be cached. Yahoo is banking on this, as well as the fact that people who use the service won't want to change. Yahoo has dropped a ton of money on publicity, how much has google dropped? The common unwashed masses will use this...watch and see...
Oh boy, not another death where a bunch of people get together?
While it is sad, the loss of human life, this had absolutely jack shit to do with the location. Anywhere a large group of young people (hell even middleaged people) gather, there is a good chance someone will get hurt or killed. It's human nature. Putting a moratorium on the i-net cafes won't do a damned thing.
Sheesh
mainly because ANY company showing a profit is a good thing in todays economy. It seems they got the ship righted before it hit the iceberg.
"Now if you actually look at my post you'll see that it's your parotting of the hundred posts previous to yours that parotted the hundred posts before them of the exact same phrases, that I dislike; you can think for yourself and say something original can't you (at least jumble up the words or something). "
Ok, if you think I am just parroting crap, that's your opinion and you are absolutely entitled to it. However, if we are to be productive and think before we respond as you request, then rather than slam me for what I had to say, wouldn't it be better to ignore it and post something enlightening?
I can concede you have a point in that it is harped up a bit here. I was not trying to beat a dead horse, merely making a statement.
Fair enough?
I think a lot of people are like this.... until someone comes along and does something horrible to them. Then they change their toon fast. I am not saying this against you Aceticon, but you know it's true. People scream for freedoms until they get abused by it and then the song changes. Just a thought.
Rant time: Cut and paste? I think not my friend. I served in the Marine Corps for 5 years. I have been all over the world, and have seen what kind of conditions other people live in. You have no idea how good you have it. People like ME have defended that right since this country was founded. Hundreds of thousands have died for this right. If you disagree with it, fine, but don't try to slam me for something you don't have a fucking clue about. Damn, now you got me all pissed off...
It does both. If I am interested in something, I let my friends know about it. If they like it, more often than not, we will check it out together. A perfect example of this is muds. I know most here have probably dabbled at a mud or two back in the day, so this hopefully will stay somewhat on topic. I was a fledgling netizen in the early 90's. A friend of mine introduced me to a mud, and I watched him play for a while. I soon became interested in this, and we started playing together, me on one pc, him on the other. Soon, we introduced other people to it. More and more people joined us, and we would have mud gatherings. Now, that is an example of how you can get a group online doing something together. For the opposite example, when IRC first came out, that was most definetely something I did on my own, as I didn't want to take the abuse from my friends when they would read a response or something. IRC required a bit of privacy. No big deal. The bottom line IMO is if you are typically a closed person with few friends outside of your computer life, then chances are you surf alone. If you have friends outside of the net that are interested in you, then you will do stuff together. Loners will be alone, those that aren't won't. Or something like that. Anyhow, my $.03
"Really you think the KKK shou have the right to assemble?" Actually yes I do, for otherwise, a lot of people would have died in vain protecting this right they so often abuse. For the record, I ABHOR everything the KK stands for. I personally would be glad if they never existed. But, just because I disagree with their views, doesn't mean they don't have the right to do what they wish. (within the laws of course)
I don't necessarily agree with the so and so sucks.com mentality, but it is a freedom of expression issue. Just because I hate everything the KKK stands for, doesn't mean I won't defend their right to assemble, etc. This is, IMO, similar. Hopefully this is a small step for the online community towards a more democratic society.
Can someone please clue me into why people do this? I don't quite understand this mentality. I have never done something bad like this simply because I could. Am I a rarity in this world? Do these kids need a hug? Why would you do this? Feeling "elite" because you can knock down an ISP? Take your energy and do something positive with it. IMO, this is petty and retarded. Maybe these script kiddies can go knock down a hospital or something next, hey why not, it doesn't hurt anyone right? RIGHT? forking iceholes.
I can see it now:
My level 60 Knight finally has enough of his temp job.
>Your bash sends the bossman sprawling!
>You TERMINATE the bossman.
>You TERMINATE the bossman.
>You TERMINATE the bossman.
>You TERMINATE the bossman.
the bossman is incapacitated and will die if not soon aided. The bossman is dead. You get one lousy experience point.
tee-hee
"I don't really agree with you." 'nough said.
that the e-book format won't go over very well. I would like to think it would but thinking hurts and I have done too much of that today already. I have read the e-book format, and I can honestly say I hated it. There is something about being able to pick up the book (comic or otherwise) and flip through the pages. It seems a little more intimate that way. (OK, waiting for +4 funny post to follow that comment)
So I suppose ruggedized machines are out of the question. To be honest, you are rather limited (it would seem to me) in what you can do. You stated above that a lot of them have pc's in the home, so I would assume that most also have a connection to the net, so your idea of term server sounds good in that case. Hard luck for those that don't have a modem or other type connection. The kicker would be how far can you stretch your budget? You can get w2k term server running on a relatively low speed machine, and allow them the use of their own machines, OR, you could use several dumb terminals allowing access in (again, nothing fancy, just good enough to not hinder their learning.) The sad fact is, you might want to keep the OS the same. (meaning MS in this case, as you stated the majority probably will be using MS products. Also, the truly interested will be able to make their own decisions just like you and I did, with a little help from you of course) The reason I say this is it will be a pain in the you-know-what to get various flavors to hook into one another. If you are also heading into what I call Croc Hunter Territory, do two things, make sure everything is secured properly, i.e. tied down, bolted, etc., and bring Suie the dog to chase hogs :)
The bottom line is, don't make it hard on your self. Keep things fairly simple, and you should do fine. One other option, then I shut up, if there is a military base near you, you might be able to get some hardened cases for storage during the trips from community to community. Contact your local PR guy or gal, they should be willing to help, and in fact might donate some equipment (The military loves easy GOOD press)
Ok, have fun, I would love to be doing this, sounds like a neat gig.
We need a little more info on this. How big is their budget? How far does the vehicle need to go? What type of terrain? I ask the last one because I worked for the school system in Nashville for awhile, there are some really remote communities there. As far as OS goes, I would show just about all that you can, I would even include *shudder* MS products...if you can give some more info, I think I can add some to your conversation. ;-)
We are sorry that we can't squeeze more money out of this poor war-stricken nation in their time of Economic rebuilding. This will effect our share-holders bottom line, and this cannot happen. Sounds pretty much like the nice-speak in the post, no? *snort*
Ok, after reading other posters comments, I see that the program was not as benign as I thought. That still doesn't change the fact that he could have conceivably (sp?) spent more time in jail for a PROGRAM than someone who committed murder, rape, arson, etc. That is still ridiculous to me. Damn I can't spell today.
Jesus, folks, Our government needs a head dunking. 30 years for a benign program on a few machines, (I live near there, it isn't a large campus) as opposed to 6-10 for MURDER? Hot damn, he didn't kill anybody....let's just be really glad he got off "light"
Aunt Tillie told me to quit worrying about what she was doing and to eat my nice apple pie. Seriously though, who is he to say? If people are that interested, then they will. If not, they won't. Time for coffee
I thought it read Compaqflash. I was like, "why the hell would anyone wanna use Compaq? They are mainly proprietary." *snort* Ah, time to make the donuts.
Actually wasn't talking about the actual vehicles themselves, I was talking about being safe in the sense of not being held-up, stabbed, shot or worse. I also enjoy the fact that I don't have to ride next to a smelly person, person that may be talking to themselves, etc. It is my choice, so don't get all high and mighty on me on this. peace
Your average geek doesn't work in an organization with a million other employees. This is called STANDARDS. Yes, there are a ton of them out there for really retarded things, nough said on that. Most government documentation does make sense though. The reason stuff is this way is that the government has the mentality that if you were to do tomorrow, so-and-so down the hall could step up and do your job. That's why.
As a former military person, I would like to debunk a myth a lot of techies seem to have. Not everyone who worked in the military is under qualified.
In fact, a ton of inovations have come from those supposed undertrained military folks. Getting a security clearance is easy.
No, my post was saying that I used to NOT look out for myself. Now, it is my primary concern, and should have been the whole time.