Uh, they DO. You don't remember the 1999 keynote? Or the iPod one? The entire apple.com domain was dragged down. People only care now because Apple is mass market.
"Please allow me to point one last thing out: to all of those here (and elsewhere) who complained that Macs were too expensive, it's now time to put up or shut up."
Ok, I'm game. Why should a nerd like myself (who likes to dig into and upgrade hardware) buy an iMac Mini when I can STILL get a more powerful Dell at the same price?
For the price of a Mini plus screen (let's say we go cheapo and connect a 15" CRT, keyboard and monitor -- final cost $600), I can get a small business Dell tower with a 15" flat screen monitor, Works suite (almost identical to iWork), twice as much memory, same combo drive, much faster processor and an 80 GB hard drive (the $499 Mac sells has a 40 GB, the higher-end has 80). I now have a faster, more capable PC for the same price.
You seem to forget... some of us DON'T WANT the computer industry dumbed down. We like the fact that we have a vast canvas of unlimited hardware to play with. We don't like when a manufacturer feels a need to create a displayless piece of hardware or a box without a keyboard and mouse. To us, everything Apple does is wrong or at the very least misguided. Plus, Steve Jobs is a prick...
I think you meant "sell". As for the mini itself, some design choices intrigue me. 80 GB hard drive on the $599 model and size (good), no keyboard or mouse (huh?) I can see wanting to save costs, but what happens when grandma/grandpa use the "hand me down" PS/2 keyboard and mouse?
I disagree on the graphics slam. Blizzard has some extremely talented artists that have put hundreds of thousands of man-hours (if not millions) into their game's artwork. The book that comes with the collector's edition clearly shows that. Even on a system without the highlight shaders, the textures are crisp, beautiful and quite organic.
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"Funny" indeed. Who are all these old fogies that push Nethack everytime someone mentions Wow on Slashdot?:P
"And is that so bad? If you've got the assets, you'd be a fool not to use them right?"
True. To paraphrase George Carlin, I have big, powerful hands. I use these to strangle people regularly. I mean, if you got the assets (like big powerful hands), you'd be a fool not to use them right?
Uh, well, actually at my company the employees started the contribution drive. It may end up being "good PR", but we actually wanted to team up and help. Bit cynical aren't you?
During 9/11, people were shocked that street vendors sold water for $20 a bottle and nearby jewelry stores were robbed. I always thought "Well, if the disaster was of a much bigger magnitude, people would probably not do this."
Now, 150,000 dead, and we still have assholes trying to make a buck off it. What does it take for these people to learn morals? Is the extra cash worth that much when there's now several thousand orphans? Do we need, what, a nuclear holocaust to get assholes to knock it off?
There's also a big difference between a paper catching fire and an IR remote signal getting confused by flashbulbs going around it. If you read the blog, you'd see they just went ahead with the slideshow manually. The Xbox game was kind of unexcusable, though (although, Bungie did pull off an impressive demo during E3 last year, so it kind of makes up for it).
As far as I know, Steve Jobs has resorted to trickery for most of us presentations. The original iBook that had Airport used a custom external wireless video interface to display on the main screen (it cost more than the iBook itself). Steve claims he's used "Keynote" for most of his presentations (even before it was released), but the fact that it caused kernel panics on ATI hardware makes me question that. That's why he referred to as a "master showman" and not a "master presenter".
Literally happens to everyone. I've never seen a presentation NOT have some technical glitches of some kind. There was an old Times editor who said "I'd wager there's not been a single copy of The New York Times that hasn't had some kind of error".
If the entire thing is made out of legos, electromagnetic shielding is going to be a bitch with those rigs. I wonder how much his portable phones / 802.11 / microwaves goes haywire when he stick one of those near it.
Also got to wonder about cooling. I'm not sure of the thermal properties for legos, but I imagine they're not the same as regular metal...
"I'm sure there are plenty of non-devotees, including the CEOs of companies like Microsoft, Adobe, RealNetworks, Creative, HP and Sun to name but a few who pay close attention to what Jobs has to say."
"What are you? 14? 15? The world is more complicated than that. And you know it."
No, really, it's isn't. Think about your average trailer park trash. Do you think any of these people give a lick about getting a job that "advances society" or "furthers mankind"? No. Their occupations are solely to get the needed bucks to get food on the table. It's an ends to a means. In that case, they really don't care WHAT they're doing, or HOW WELL they're doing it. They punch in, put in their time and go home.
And if you think this is the minority, I have news for you: it's the majority.
""Where is the incentive to learn new skills? Why bother if you're going to get the same money anyway?" This is why you learn skills? To make money? If that is our only motivation, we are doomed."
Let me rephrase that: Where is the incentive FOR MOST PEOPLE to learn new skills? Your average white trash living in a trailer home doesn't give a lick about advancing society or mankind at work -- he goes, gets his paycheck and comes home. There are a LOT of these people (I would venture to say many more than the people who actually "care").
The big problem with communism is that it flies in the face of basic scientific biology.
In a communistic people aren't rewarded by the amount/quality of work they produce. A doctor in a communist society gets paid the same amount as a janitor. Where is the incentive to learn new skills? Why bother if you're going to get the same money anyway?
Human (and basic biological) nature IS capitalistic. We kill other beings to eat, survival of the fittest and all. Communism goes against basic nature.
There's one huge thing wrong: people aren't rewarded by the amount/quality of work they produce. A doctor in a communist society gets paid the same amount as a janitor. Where is the incentive to learn new skills? Why bother if you're going to get the same money anyway?
Human (and basic biological) nature IS capitalistic. We kill other beings to eat, survival of the fittest and all. Communism goes against basic nature.
Penality! Illegal use of misplaced alliteration by a Mac zealot wanting to disparage a 3rd-party! Only acceptable uses are "Windoze" and "M$"! 10-yard penalty! Repeat the down!
"The two are ever so slightly different, but thank you for playing."
Yes, except mine costs $20 for the entire setup while this would cost upwards of $300 ($120 for each phone, and a wireless router). Thanks for playing.
I have a similar setup at home:, much cheaper Linksys router with Vonage hooked up to 1 piece of a 2 piece portable phone. The phones are regular models (900 mhz Vtech's I believe). The piece connected to the router goes on the floor, and the other piece is easily accesssible (so I can keep 1 phone or the other charged at all times). The entire setup cost $20 and I can add more phones later if I feel like it.
Just wanted to throw my hat in for the Archos 400. It runs an embedded operating system that I THINK (don't quote me) is Linux. Regardless, it's reliable and plays DivX movies beautifully. I have about 20 movies on the thing (that I purchased, thank you very much) and they all run great. Battery life is respectable, too (about 8-10 hours). Made me give up my iPod.
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Uh, they DO. You don't remember the 1999 keynote? Or the iPod one? The entire apple.com domain was dragged down. People only care now because Apple is mass market.
"Please allow me to point one last thing out: to all of those here (and elsewhere) who complained that Macs were too expensive, it's now time to put up or shut up."
Ok, I'm game. Why should a nerd like myself (who likes to dig into and upgrade hardware) buy an iMac Mini when I can STILL get a more powerful Dell at the same price?
For the price of a Mini plus screen (let's say we go cheapo and connect a 15" CRT, keyboard and monitor -- final cost $600), I can get a small business Dell tower with a 15" flat screen monitor, Works suite (almost identical to iWork), twice as much memory, same combo drive, much faster processor and an 80 GB hard drive (the $499 Mac sells has a 40 GB, the higher-end has 80). I now have a faster, more capable PC for the same price.
You seem to forget... some of us DON'T WANT the computer industry dumbed down. We like the fact that we have a vast canvas of unlimited hardware to play with. We don't like when a manufacturer feels a need to create a displayless piece of hardware or a box without a keyboard and mouse. To us, everything Apple does is wrong or at the very least misguided. Plus, Steve Jobs is a prick...
"the normally bulletproof Apple website is moving"
Lol. Have you never seen one of their live webcasts before?
I think you meant "sell". As for the mini itself, some design choices intrigue me. 80 GB hard drive on the $599 model and size (good), no keyboard or mouse (huh?) I can see wanting to save costs, but what happens when grandma/grandpa use the "hand me down" PS/2 keyboard and mouse?
Outside piracy, how useful is this?
I disagree on the graphics slam. Blizzard has some extremely talented artists that have put hundreds of thousands of man-hours (if not millions) into their game's artwork. The book that comes with the collector's edition clearly shows that. Even on a system without the highlight shaders, the textures are crisp, beautiful and quite organic.
"Funny" indeed. Who are all these old fogies that push Nethack everytime someone mentions Wow on Slashdot? :P
"And is that so bad? If you've got the assets, you'd be a fool not to use them right?"
True. To paraphrase George Carlin, I have big, powerful hands. I use these to strangle people regularly. I mean, if you got the assets (like big powerful hands), you'd be a fool not to use them right?
Uh, well, actually at my company the employees started the contribution drive. It may end up being "good PR", but we actually wanted to team up and help. Bit cynical aren't you?
During 9/11, people were shocked that street vendors sold water for $20 a bottle and nearby jewelry stores were robbed. I always thought "Well, if the disaster was of a much bigger magnitude, people would probably not do this."
Now, 150,000 dead, and we still have assholes trying to make a buck off it. What does it take for these people to learn morals? Is the extra cash worth that much when there's now several thousand orphans? Do we need, what, a nuclear holocaust to get assholes to knock it off?
There's also a big difference between a paper catching fire and an IR remote signal getting confused by flashbulbs going around it. If you read the blog, you'd see they just went ahead with the slideshow manually. The Xbox game was kind of unexcusable, though (although, Bungie did pull off an impressive demo during E3 last year, so it kind of makes up for it).
As far as I know, Steve Jobs has resorted to trickery for most of us presentations. The original iBook that had Airport used a custom external wireless video interface to display on the main screen (it cost more than the iBook itself). Steve claims he's used "Keynote" for most of his presentations (even before it was released), but the fact that it caused kernel panics on ATI hardware makes me question that. That's why he referred to as a "master showman" and not a "master presenter".
Literally happens to everyone. I've never seen a presentation NOT have some technical glitches of some kind. There was an old Times editor who said "I'd wager there's not been a single copy of The New York Times that hasn't had some kind of error".
If the entire thing is made out of legos, electromagnetic shielding is going to be a bitch with those rigs. I wonder how much his portable phones / 802.11 / microwaves goes haywire when he stick one of those near it.
Also got to wonder about cooling. I'm not sure of the thermal properties for legos, but I imagine they're not the same as regular metal...
"IIRC the wireless network in the keynote room is taken down for the duration of the keynote (at least it was on previous occasions)."
Uh, WHY? Doesn't Apple want that information out there at that point? It's not like it's secret anymore.
"I'm sure there are plenty of non-devotees, including the CEOs of companies like Microsoft, Adobe, RealNetworks, Creative, HP and Sun to name but a few who pay close attention to what Jobs has to say."
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Uh, no, we don't. Sorry.
"What are you? 14? 15? The world is more complicated than that. And you know it."
No, really, it's isn't. Think about your average trailer park trash. Do you think any of these people give a lick about getting a job that "advances society" or "furthers mankind"? No. Their occupations are solely to get the needed bucks to get food on the table. It's an ends to a means. In that case, they really don't care WHAT they're doing, or HOW WELL they're doing it. They punch in, put in their time and go home.
And if you think this is the minority, I have news for you: it's the majority.
""Where is the incentive to learn new skills? Why bother if you're going to get the same money anyway?"
This is why you learn skills? To make money? If that is our only motivation, we are doomed."
Let me rephrase that: Where is the incentive FOR MOST PEOPLE to learn new skills? Your average white trash living in a trailer home doesn't give a lick about advancing society or mankind at work -- he goes, gets his paycheck and comes home. There are a LOT of these people (I would venture to say many more than the people who actually "care").
The big problem with communism is that it flies in the face of basic scientific biology.
In a communistic people aren't rewarded by the amount/quality of work they produce. A doctor in a communist society gets paid the same amount as a janitor. Where is the incentive to learn new skills? Why bother if you're going to get the same money anyway?
Human (and basic biological) nature IS capitalistic. We kill other beings to eat, survival of the fittest and all. Communism goes against basic nature.
"there's nothing wrong with a communial society"
There's one huge thing wrong: people aren't rewarded by the amount/quality of work they produce. A doctor in a communist society gets paid the same amount as a janitor. Where is the incentive to learn new skills? Why bother if you're going to get the same money anyway?
Human (and basic biological) nature IS capitalistic. We kill other beings to eat, survival of the fittest and all. Communism goes against basic nature.
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Penality! Illegal use of misplaced alliteration by a Mac zealot wanting to disparage a 3rd-party! Only acceptable uses are "Windoze" and "M$"! 10-yard penalty! Repeat the down!
I seriously cannot think of one valid use to aim a laser at an airplane. Can you think of one?
"The two are ever so slightly different, but thank you for playing."
Yes, except mine costs $20 for the entire setup while this would cost upwards of $300 ($120 for each phone, and a wireless router). Thanks for playing.
I have a similar setup at home:, much cheaper Linksys router with Vonage hooked up to 1 piece of a 2 piece portable phone. The phones are regular models (900 mhz Vtech's I believe). The piece connected to the router goes on the floor, and the other piece is easily accesssible (so I can keep 1 phone or the other charged at all times). The entire setup cost $20 and I can add more phones later if I feel like it.
Just wanted to throw my hat in for the Archos 400. It runs an embedded operating system that I THINK (don't quote me) is Linux. Regardless, it's reliable and plays DivX movies beautifully. I have about 20 movies on the thing (that I purchased, thank you very much) and they all run great. Battery life is respectable, too (about 8-10 hours). Made me give up my iPod.