Worked graveyard myself for almost six years & completely agree with day-walker's rude outlook on people who sleep during the day.
Answering the door naked, shotgun over a shoulder helped make sure things got real quiet real fast.
Excuse me while I pass the link to this story to every Catholic that has ever told me "You're wrong" when I started explaining the exact same thing over 15 years ago.
Walk in, get what I want, scan and pay, wait 15 minutes for grandma to figure out where the UPC on her hair-dye is,walk out.
Sorry, but you sound like you're computer-literate enough to use a simple touch-screen interface to perform a basic function. However that puts you above-average in most communities.Thanks for playing the "We'll let the customers do the work for us!" game. Join us next time for "Pick your own organic produce (Use rear door)"
P.S: I just finished a round of "Add your own HTML tags". Quite refreshing.
debug22,
Thank you for the response. It really sheds some light on the situation and I appreciate the first-hand experience you shared. Now I'm really curious about Canada - If it's so easy to get a green card, why aren't IT companies setting up support shops north of the U.S.A instead of directly importing people?
This constant back-and-forth with various agencies trying to hash-out visas here in the U.S. has always struck me as large waste of time and money for everyone involved...
I would think a thread like this on an IT-oriented site would drum up quite a bit of feedback from Indians that have migrated to America (under any circumstances). Though I share the same sentiments as many U.S.-based posters have (hate cleaning-up/debugging horrible code, dealing with people who hide their lack of comprehension behind a Yes-Man veil, etc), I'm curious how "the other half lives".
What drives someone in India to come to the US, rather than improving their situation at home?
What challenges did they have getting here?
How have they secured their stay?
I mean, I can surmise with the best of/. about the how's and why's -- But I think this thread is a great opportunity to "hear it from the horses mouth".
We discussed this, Scrub. Grandma is particular about her flower-bed. Last week she took the newspaper kid's bike-tire clean off from 100 yards away...
The idea of having a GUI that eliminates typing errors, simplifies operations, logs the success or failure, and shows at a glance what configurations are set where is just so 21st century.
Yes, because creating a configuration file once and copying it to thousands of systems is just soooo haaarrrd.
Side-note: Linux has had front-ends/wizards/GUIs to create configuration files for a long time.
I work for Accenture, my counterparts in India cost 1/5 of my wage and in many ways equal my quality. I'm not going to stick my fingers in my ears and him loudly, it is the facts.
Well I've worked alongside Accenture for years, and if what you say is technically factual in the slightest that means that a) You are as technically competent as your Indian peers a) That standard of competency is not very high.
tl;dr Best to be thought a fool and say nothing, than to speak and remove all doubt
That's a little insensitive, don't you think? This is an article about the *Indian* military, so wouldn't a more accurate abbreviation be OMS (Oh My Shiva) or possibly OMV (Oh My Vishnu)? Just sayin'...
No, it would be "Robot of Killing. Fund Where; Pls do the needful"
Long touted as "the" Linux distribution for the desktop, but I just don't see it.
Just like any new distribution, when Ubuntu hit the streets I checked it out. Just the "mood" of the developers turned me off.
Let me clarify - I'm all for making things more user-friendly, and maybe I'm too old-school UNIX, but there's a difference between making something easier to use, and making it retard-proof.
When their forums became crowded with a hundred posts for the exact. Same. Problem. I warned my friends and family.
When the slew of Ubuntu-specific tools, GUIs, and How-Tos washed over the documentation. I distanced myself.
Now, with their community of perpetual noobs, their isolated walled-garden of features/docs/development, they finally think they've "locked-in" enough users to start this kind of nonesense.
Ad-Supported is just a spin-doctor's way of saying "Fuck You, GNU".
When one company buys another they take on all liabilities (like long term contracts and loans) as well as all assets (like cash and computers).
I've seen a common "mating dance" between corp before one "absorbs" the other. Goes like this;
1) Owners of Corp A sign documents that merge all their agreed-upon assets into a new holding corp.
2) Another form is signed dissolving Corp A and liquidating all assets to Corp B.
3) Corp B signs the forms that acquire the Holding Corp that is no more than a skin-bag full of Corp A organs.
This is how Corp A gets rid of "if we get bought, we'll give employees X amount for Y years of service" clauses that you previously negotiated.
I have no idea who got the bright idea to wrap kids in cotton for the first 18-22 years and then throw them to the wolves.
Although I'd *love* to take credit for that one....remember the WWII generation? They went to war as boys, came back as men, and stood on their own two feet. Everyone's been expected to follow the example they set when they returned to the homefront.
I realize there may be a financial incentive for rewriting what is no doubt a fair chunk of one of the key "selling points" of the DOOM 3 engine, however I'm glad to see that this is being done so the source can be released *publically*. Even if not much comes from it, I personally enjoy going over the code released from id Software...it's like going and in time and watching Da Vinci with a hammer and chisel.
(Yes, yes "Carmack's no Da Vinci", but he is as close to one as most Programmer's can get.)
I have a Samsung Epic 4G and haven't been able to get the HotSpot to work (tethered or not). Ever.
Google, forums, and IRC have all pointed to signs of a "disabled" (read: Will always generate an error) feature.
If all the cellphone companies are pimps, at least Sprint beats on me less and only takes HALF my money.
Money isn't happiness
I agree. Money can be used to purchase goods and services, from the likes of...say...a few talented, well-endowed ladies at your local gentlemen's club.
Two hours in the back-room with a few girls that don't know how to use a mouse and couldn't eject a DVD out of a drive without a remote can be quite relaxing. Yeah baby!! Pull my token rings when you resync that array!! Just like that! DO IT!
you are appreciated once you are no longer around to do the job
Reminds me of "Emperor's Syndrom"...
Emperor:"Ah, that coup went better than expected. Let's look at the budget...1,000 Ninjas?? Fire half of them!" Underling:"Yessir! But please keep in mind, the previous Emperor had 2,000 Ninjas...they were the only force warding off the assassins." ...Six Months Later... New Emperor:"Well, that coup went well. Let's look at the budget...Ahhh!! 500 Ninjas?! Fire half of them!" Underling: *sigh*
you will save 1000's on licensing costs (THANKS BSA!), but you will spend 40K a year on an IT guy to provide support
Odds are good you're sporting an IT guy's salary already. Just slip "software support" into his job description and don't tell him till the annual Performance Review!
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Worked graveyard myself for almost six years & completely agree with day-walker's rude outlook on people who sleep during the day.
Answering the door naked, shotgun over a shoulder helped make sure things got real quiet real fast.
As for automating shift-work - automation breaks.
Excuse me while I pass the link to this story to every Catholic that has ever told me "You're wrong" when I started explaining the exact same thing over 15 years ago.
Walk in, get what I want, scan and pay, wait 15 minutes for grandma to figure out where the UPC on her hair-dye is,walk out.
Sorry, but you sound like you're computer-literate enough to use a simple touch-screen interface to perform a basic function.
However that puts you above-average in most communities.Thanks for playing the "We'll let the customers do the work for us!" game.
Join us next time for "Pick your own organic produce (Use rear door)"
P.S: I just finished a round of "Add your own HTML tags". Quite refreshing.
debug22,
Thank you for the response. It really sheds some light on the situation and I appreciate the first-hand experience you shared. Now I'm really curious about Canada - If it's so easy to get a green card, why aren't IT companies setting up support shops north of the U.S.A instead of directly importing people?
This constant back-and-forth with various agencies trying to hash-out visas here in the U.S. has always struck me as large waste of time and money for everyone involved...
I would think a thread like this on an IT-oriented site would drum up quite a bit of feedback from Indians that have migrated to America (under any circumstances). Though I share the same sentiments as many U.S.-based posters have (hate cleaning-up/debugging horrible code, dealing with people who hide their lack of comprehension behind a Yes-Man veil, etc), I'm curious how "the other half lives".
/. about the how's and why's -- But I think this thread is a great opportunity to "hear it from the horses mouth".
What drives someone in India to come to the US, rather than improving their situation at home?
What challenges did they have getting here?
How have they secured their stay?
I mean, I can surmise with the best of
He's implying you're a drip-baby. *whoosh!*
Hell, *click* There you go.
We discussed this, Scrub. Grandma is particular about her flower-bed. Last week she took the newspaper kid's bike-tire clean off from 100 yards away...
The idea of having a GUI that eliminates typing errors, simplifies operations, logs the success or failure, and shows at a glance what configurations are set where is just so 21st century.
Yes, because creating a configuration file once and copying it to thousands of systems is just soooo haaarrrd.
Side-note: Linux has had front-ends/wizards/GUIs to create configuration files for a long time.
I work for Accenture, my counterparts in India cost 1/5 of my wage and in many ways equal my quality. I'm not going to stick my fingers in my ears and him loudly, it is the facts.
Well I've worked alongside Accenture for years, and if what you say is technically factual in the slightest that means that
a) You are as technically competent as your Indian peers
a) That standard of competency is not very high.
tl;dr Best to be thought a fool and say nothing, than to speak and remove all doubt
American here. They're called 'stereotypes' because the majority fit a given description. Live with it or go home.
That's a little insensitive, don't you think? This is an article about the *Indian* military, so wouldn't a more accurate abbreviation be OMS (Oh My Shiva) or possibly OMV (Oh My Vishnu)? Just sayin'...
No, it would be "Robot of Killing. Fund Where; Pls do the needful"
You take that back this instant, Mister! My tablet needs a command-prompt so bad I can TASTE it.
Is Garden of Eden Creation Kit taken?
Long touted as "the" Linux distribution for the desktop, but I just don't see it.
Just like any new distribution, when Ubuntu hit the streets I checked it out. Just the "mood" of the developers turned me off.
Let me clarify - I'm all for making things more user-friendly, and maybe I'm too old-school UNIX, but there's a difference between making something easier to use, and making it retard-proof.
When their forums became crowded with a hundred posts for the exact. Same. Problem. I warned my friends and family.
When the slew of Ubuntu-specific tools, GUIs, and How-Tos washed over the documentation. I distanced myself.
Now, with their community of perpetual noobs, their isolated walled-garden of features/docs/development, they finally think they've "locked-in" enough users to start this kind of nonesense.
Ad-Supported is just a spin-doctor's way of saying "Fuck You, GNU".
When one company buys another they take on all liabilities (like long term contracts and loans) as well as all assets (like cash and computers).
I've seen a common "mating dance" between corp before one "absorbs" the other. Goes like this;
1) Owners of Corp A sign documents that merge all their agreed-upon assets into a new holding corp.
2) Another form is signed dissolving Corp A and liquidating all assets to Corp B.
3) Corp B signs the forms that acquire the Holding Corp that is no more than a skin-bag full of Corp A organs.
This is how Corp A gets rid of "if we get bought, we'll give employees X amount for Y years of service" clauses that you previously negotiated.
10 million nerds with 1000 fake profiles. multiple personality disorder could make this the year of the linux desktop!
No it won't!..Yes it will!
No it won't!...Yes it will!
No it won't!....*sigh* No it won't! Wait, what?
I have no idea who got the bright idea to wrap kids in cotton for the first 18-22 years and then throw them to the wolves.
Although I'd *love* to take credit for that one....remember the WWII generation? They went to war as boys, came back as men, and stood on their own two feet. Everyone's been expected to follow the example they set when they returned to the homefront.
Then the hippies came....
I realize there may be a financial incentive for rewriting what is no doubt a fair chunk of one of the key "selling points" of the DOOM 3 engine, however I'm glad to see that this is being done so the source can be released *publically*. Even if not much comes from it, I personally enjoy going over the code released from id Software...it's like going and in time and watching Da Vinci with a hammer and chisel.
(Yes, yes "Carmack's no Da Vinci", but he is as close to one as most Programmer's can get.)
"Shotgun Debugging" indeed. However, some multi-platform greybeards call it "Being a Windows Admin".
I have a Samsung Epic 4G and haven't been able to get the HotSpot to work (tethered or not). Ever. Google, forums, and IRC have all pointed to signs of a "disabled" (read: Will always generate an error) feature. If all the cellphone companies are pimps, at least Sprint beats on me less and only takes HALF my money.
Money isn't happiness
I agree. Money can be used to purchase goods and services, from the likes of...say...a few talented, well-endowed ladies at your local gentlemen's club.
Two hours in the back-room with a few girls that don't know how to use a mouse and couldn't eject a DVD out of a drive without a remote can be quite relaxing.
Yeah baby!! Pull my token rings when you resync that array!! Just like that! DO IT!
You don't have one on your keyboard like this?
Better call the helpdesk and get a replacement.
you are appreciated once you are no longer around to do the job
...Six Months Later...
Reminds me of "Emperor's Syndrom"...
Emperor: "Ah, that coup went better than expected. Let's look at the budget...1,000 Ninjas?? Fire half of them!"
Underling: "Yessir! But please keep in mind, the previous Emperor had 2,000 Ninjas...they were the only force warding off the assassins."
New Emperor: "Well, that coup went well. Let's look at the budget...Ahhh!! 500 Ninjas?! Fire half of them!"
Underling: *sigh*
you will save 1000's on licensing costs (THANKS BSA!), but you will spend 40K a year on an IT guy to provide support
Odds are good you're sporting an IT guy's salary already. Just slip "software support" into his job description and don't tell him till the annual Performance Review!