actually, this issue was brought up in the Viega/Flock OSS security rebuttal to AdTI paper recently. They said that the patent holder can release a royalty-free GPL version of the patented algorithm, software, whatever, but also allow those not wishing to have GPL code in their software to negotiate (ie, pay for) a seperate license for the code.
Basically, in this scenario, if a company wishes to develop an OS based on the ideas in SELinux and market it (as closed source), they would have to get a separate license from SCC on type enforcement before placing it in their code, one where SCC can demand royalties.
You could probably find more. It's extremely common for people to submit bugs w/o checking to see if it's already there, especially with a popular project like Mozilla. Way back when there was a story about having 100,000 bugs in the db or some NRN like that. Among the posts was someone who submitted a bug that got turned down within a week because it was a duplicate of about 12 others, another post said something like 25% were in a "Duplicate" state.
oh, and btw -- clicking those links generates "Sorry, links to Bugzilla from Slashdot are disabled."
oh yeah, that's certainly true. But these OS's arent "true UNIX" as they're considered "variants," as they break this part of the standard unix spec as well as others.
..except that i believe this is defined in standard unix (system v, i think). Various Sun OS's have the same problem -- passwds can be longer than 8, except that the extras are ignored.
interesting idea, but AFAIK, subliminal advertisements have not been conclusive as to whether they were effective or not in advertising. (iow - it hasnt been proven either way)
solid doors would be part of the problem. I work in a research lab that has two cabinets in the corner (not in their own rooms, which is what they really need), and unfortunately I sit closest to them. One has only our main server (a simple tower) sitting on a shelf above it's external RAID array, a UPS, and the tape backup system. The other cabinet has about 20 rack machines, a network switch, slide-away console+KVM switch, two UPS's, and a power supply. Both also have the typical power strips at appropriate points and a huge mess of wiring. The doors to the cabinets themselves are screen-like, i guess to allow air flow.
We've mostly gotten somewhat used to the noise, but it would be nice to find something to shield the noise. The only real problem we've had otherwise is the heat it generates on hot days outside when the AC hasnt been turned on.
Nimda exploited 8 holes, and no it shouldnt be ignored, even though MS probably will until there's a working exploit demo'd to them. Also, age has no bearing on how long until a hole is found. If you read security literature (ie, ACM, IEEE, USENIX, etc), you'll see frequent reference to a February 2000 BugTraq email "Wu-FTP, providing remote root since at least 1994."
Also, if you read the linked article (or was a post somewhere in this article?), you'll see that you can set IE to look for a proxy for the gopher protocol on an unused port at 127.0.0.1, effectively blocking the protocol.
The FAA has spotted an unusual number of pigs at high altitude, the devil called me up asking to send him a jacket and gloves, a cow was seen in the night sky above the moon.......
couldnt agree more with your comment "MS gets railed on for products that either no one (in the audience) has tried, or no one has tried for years."
Especially since the average web user wont run into gopher, that statement holds true. Even for non-average users, they still dont run into it. I think one comment asks how many people use it - three?
because it's a FSF person sending out an email digitally signed by a non-free program. PGPFreeware is free as in beer, not free as in speech. GnuPG is free as in speech. Like the anonymous poster said, it's just like Microsoft's use of open source software to run hotmail while advocating against open source at the same time.
how the heck does replacing equipment that factor in? I can understand where they're coming from in terms of damages, but replacing equipment? Isnt it just a configuration flag or something in the mail relay?
Many college students now get drastic discounts on Microsoft Office
Not quite. Typically the school purchases licenses from MS and then discounts them to students or, in the case of my school, just plain gives them a license (or 2 in the case of Office XP). Guess where the money to but those licenses comes from? Yup - tuition.
I think I know what you're supposed to talk about...
he'll join MacHack's crowd of developers for a lively discussion that will range from his adventures building the online community that Slashdot has become to open source issues and where ever else the freeform gathering might lead.
Then again, later on in the article.... There is no agenda, no set plan, just Malda and the audience.
Seems like that instead of typing text for discussion, it's gonna be a verbal face-to-face style Slashdot!
Slashdot Mirror
Can someone translate that into say GMT for us? Not many people are gonna know what CET stands for.
actually, this issue was brought up in the Viega/Flock OSS security rebuttal to AdTI paper recently. They said that the patent holder can release a royalty-free GPL version of the patented algorithm, software, whatever, but also allow those not wishing to have GPL code in their software to negotiate (ie, pay for) a seperate license for the code.
Basically, in this scenario, if a company wishes to develop an OS based on the ideas in SELinux and market it (as closed source), they would have to get a separate license from SCC on type enforcement before placing it in their code, one where SCC can demand royalties.
hey! that's my quote!! :-)
I too, submitted that MS/CBPDTA article (rejected)
You could probably find more. It's extremely common for people to submit bugs w/o checking to see if it's already there, especially with a popular project like Mozilla. Way back when there was a story about having 100,000 bugs in the db or some NRN like that. Among the posts was someone who submitted a bug that got turned down within a week because it was a duplicate of about 12 others, another post said something like 25% were in a "Duplicate" state.
oh, and btw -- clicking those links generates "Sorry, links to Bugzilla from Slashdot are disabled."
oh yeah, that's certainly true. But these OS's arent "true UNIX" as they're considered "variants," as they break this part of the standard unix spec as well as others.
..except that i believe this is defined in standard unix (system v, i think). Various Sun OS's have the same problem -- passwds can be longer than 8, except that the extras are ignored.
on top of that - davorg is the guy who wrote the review!
interesting idea, but AFAIK, subliminal advertisements have not been conclusive as to whether they were effective or not in advertising. (iow - it hasnt been proven either way)
CNet. The ads appear to be called "RealPeople" ads. Probably because their now using a RealOS :-)
sadly, that's actually possible with certain brands of contact lenses (scroll down a little) ......
solid doors would be part of the problem. I work in a research lab that has two cabinets in the corner (not in their own rooms, which is what they really need), and unfortunately I sit closest to them. One has only our main server (a simple tower) sitting on a shelf above it's external RAID array, a UPS, and the tape backup system. The other cabinet has about 20 rack machines, a network switch, slide-away console+KVM switch, two UPS's, and a power supply. Both also have the typical power strips at appropriate points and a huge mess of wiring. The doors to the cabinets themselves are screen-like, i guess to allow air flow.
We've mostly gotten somewhat used to the noise, but it would be nice to find something to shield the noise. The only real problem we've had otherwise is the heat it generates on hot days outside when the AC hasnt been turned on.
now if they could only make something for a set of rack-mounts.......
Nimda exploited 8 holes, and no it shouldnt be ignored, even though MS probably will until there's a working exploit demo'd to them. Also, age has no bearing on how long until a hole is found. If you read security literature (ie, ACM, IEEE, USENIX, etc), you'll see frequent reference to a February 2000 BugTraq email "Wu-FTP, providing remote root since at least 1994."
Also, if you read the linked article (or was a post somewhere in this article?), you'll see that you can set IE to look for a proxy for the gopher protocol on an unused port at 127.0.0.1, effectively blocking the protocol.
The FAA has spotted an unusual number of pigs at high altitude, the devil called me up asking to send him a jacket and gloves, a cow was seen in the night sky above the moon.......
couldnt agree more with your comment "MS gets railed on for products that either no one (in the audience) has tried, or no one has tried for years."
Especially since the average web user wont run into gopher, that statement holds true. Even for non-average users, they still dont run into it. I think one comment asks how many people use it - three?
but that goddamn X10 might be what you're looking for. just head over to yahoo, you'll see the popup sooner or later.
East coast people wont be able to see it! It happens after nightfall for us!
he's actually pissed it's not called GNU/UnitedLinux
because it's a FSF person sending out an email digitally signed by a non-free program. PGPFreeware is free as in beer, not free as in speech. GnuPG is free as in speech. Like the anonymous poster said, it's just like Microsoft's use of open source software to run hotmail while advocating against open source at the same time.
how the heck does replacing equipment that factor in? I can understand where they're coming from in terms of damages, but replacing equipment? Isnt it just a configuration flag or something in the mail relay?
Many college students now get drastic discounts on Microsoft Office
Not quite. Typically the school purchases licenses from MS and then discounts them to students or, in the case of my school, just plain gives them a license (or 2 in the case of Office XP). Guess where the money to but those licenses comes from? Yup - tuition.
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well thats interesting, they're not using GNUpg
man, i know my .sig says offtopic mods mean they dont get it, i didnt think we would need to add troll to that list.
I think I know what you're supposed to talk about...
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he'll join MacHack's crowd of developers for a lively discussion that will range from his adventures building the online community that Slashdot has become to open source issues and where ever else the freeform gathering might lead.
Then again, later on in the article
There is no agenda, no set plan, just Malda and the audience.
Seems like that instead of typing text for discussion, it's gonna be a verbal face-to-face style Slashdot!
CT -- you forgot the and tags.