"This is a server chip. Benchmark it using a database, a web server, number crunching, etc."
In case you don't know, Clawhammer is meant for desktops/workstations. Hell, there's even a mobile version of it in the pipeline! Then we have Clawhammer DP (dual-processor) and Sledgehammer that are meant for servers.
Please, get your facts straight before opening your mouth!
"But doesn't B promote A? I think the goal isn't just to HAVE free software and a free operating system. It is also to preserve, promote, and improve said system. That is what GNU and the FSF are all about. Doing B also does A."
How would giving GNU-project free advertising benefit the free OS that we have today (Linux)? It wouldn't, it would just satisfy the gloryhounds of the GNU-project.
Yes, their project is important. It's goal is to create free OS, not to gain fame and fortune for the project. Their goal has been reached. Why are they then insisting on getting the credit? Like I said, their mission is to create free OS, not to gain fame (at least I haven't seen "fame" or "fortune" mentioned in their mission-statement). Their mission has been accomplished, they should be happy.
Not having the word "GNU" in the name of the OS really doesn't limit their possibilites to improve their software. Linux has already boosted the mindshare of the GNU-project immensly. And if they can't or wont improve their software, someone else will (just look at GCC vs. EGCS)
And not all free projects are part of GNU-project. How would advertising GNU benefit KDE for example? KDE is free software, but it's not GNU-software.
!While on the whole, you are of course entitled to your opinion, but please pardon me for pointing out that WITHOUT the GNU Project, that wouldn't be "Freedom in Software".!
Which is more important:
a) to have free software and free Operating System.
b) to give GNU-project free publicity and recognition
I believe that point a) is more important. ALOT more important. RMS should be grateful that with Linux, we have free Operating System. Instead of really caring for free software, all he seems to care about is the fame and glory of the GNU-project (which has gotten alot more publicity, thanks to Linux).
Yes, GNU-software is important part of a Linux-distro. So what? The fact still is that we now have a free OS. Why does it matter to RMS if it's not called GNU/Linux, if it fulfills the goal of FSF and RMS? Because RMS is so fanatic when it comes to the naming-thingy, it seems that it never was about free software, it was about glory and fame for the GNU-project, and he just used free software as a tool to get that fame. We have now free software and OS, RMS should be happy. He's not. He's annoyed because his project didn't get all the fame and glory.
If it really were about free software, RMS should be extatic that we now have a complete free OS. He's not.
Not really. They have to have a default desktop (like Red Hat has Gnome), and they chose KDE (propably because Conectiva and SuSE (and Caldera?) are KDE-centric distros.
Of course, you can still run Gnome on United Linux
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I'm currently running Debian, but I'm planning to switch to gentoo in the near future. As to the capabilities of Portage... From their website:
"Portage is a true ports system in the tradition of BSD ports, but is Python-based and sports a number of advanced features including dependencies, fine-grained package management, "fake" (OpenBSD-style) installs, path sandboxing, safe unmerging, system profiles, virtual packages, config file management, and more...
Tell Portage what ebuild you'd like to install, and Portage will auto-download, unpack, patch, configure, compile and install the package. Thanks to Portage auto-dependency resolution, you can install KDE 3.0 or GNOME 1.4 by typing in a single command, and the resultant installed binaries will be optimized and customized to your exact specifications."
"Gentoo is going to have to be a pretty trick pony to outdo apt-get."
It already does. Portage does everything apt-get does and more.
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If Debian is in freeze, why do some packages get updated while some are not? Mozilla has been updated several times since KDE3 was released, so has several libraries and apps. So why not KDE?
Too bad Gnutella sucks. Is it possible to download file from multiple sources simultaneously? How much stuff is there when compared to Kazaa/FastTrack? After using Gnutella, it seems that there's not as much content and you can only download file from one source at a time.
...towards projects that don't happen to be his pet-projects. I mean, he seems to be hostile towards Linux (and Linus). It seems to me that he's annoyed by the fact that Linux came along and stole the thunder that was reserved for his pet-project: HURD. Well, Stallman and FSF has no-one but themselves to blame. They have been working on HURD for as long as I can remember, and it's still unfinished!
Another example is KDE. There used to be genuine reason for him to be annoyed, but those reasons have been corrected. KDE is GPL-compliant. Yet he seems to be rather hostile towards KDE. His biased towards Gnome (the official GNU Desktop) is rather obvious.
It seems to me that he's negative towards software-projects that compete with official GNU-projects (Linux vs. HURD, KDE vs. Gnome). One would think that RMS would be happy when GPL-software gets more popular, but his ego seems to get in the way. He wants HIS projects to succeed, not some other projects. And if he can't beat that other project, he then insists that The Mark of GNU must be placed on that project (Linux is beating HURD, so he insists that Linux gets named GNU/Linux). I bet if KDE started to show sings of killing Gnome, RMS would insist that KDE get's renamed to GDE (GNU Desktop Environment) or something similar.
As to the naming of Linux... I will keep on calling it "Linux", thank you very much. If I need to separate the kernel from the OS, I will talk about "The Linux Kernel". Nothing in the GPL suggests that it must be named after the GNU-project. I might have started to call it GNU/Linux, but RMS's foaming-at-the-mouth attitude has turned me away from his suggestions.
Marcelo thinks that the new IDE-stuff needs alot of testing before it can be released. That is why we are having a long delay in the 2.4.x series. If you want more up-to-date 2.4.x kernel. use the -ac tree
"You are demanding that others apply your rules to their interactions with you."
No I'm not. I'm giving them the right to choose what's best for them. They can freely choose whether to have an abortion or not. But they have NO right to go around and try to force others to think and act like they do! I think everyone has the right to make up their own mind, no matter that are they pro-life or pro-choice. What no-one can do, however, is to try to force others to think and act like they do (this applies to both pro-choice and pro-life camps, but I haven't seen pro-choice people go around killing people who happen to disagree with them).
In short: They can make decisions for themselves. they can decide to have an abortion or not. But they can NOT make decisions for other people. That's basically what pro-life/pro-choice debate is about. Pro-choice is about letting everyone decide for themselves whether to have an abortion or not. Pro-life is about trying to force everyone to think like some right-wing christian-fundamentalists do.
"Why are people so protective of children and babies? Because they're defenceless human beings who deserve the right to grow up and fulfill their potential. Unfulfilled potential applies doubly to unborn children."
The collection of cells that are aborted are not children. They cannot feel nor think. They are just that: a collection of cells. Now they have a potential of becoming sentient, feeling humans. But while they are nothing but a collection of cells, they are not human.
How can you "murder" something that cannot feel, isn't self-aware and cannot think? Cattle has all those qualities, yet we feel no remorse when we kill them in the millions so we could eat them. You cannot be against abortion because those cells have the potential of becoming human. If you did that, then you must be against masturbation, since all those sperm have the potential of becoming a human under the right circumstances. Just like those aborted cells had the potential of becoming human under right circumstances.
If you don't want abortion, fine. You have the right not to get an abortion (if you were woman that is). But you cannot go around demanding that other people must live according to your rules! You don't have the right to force others to act and think like you do!
Product-names seem to be the pitfall in Linux/Open Source-software. And Gnome is no exception. I mean, let's look at some names shall we?
Vim Etherape Everything related to KDE GNU Everything related to GNU HURD etc.
Those names might sound "cool" to hackers ("whoa, "HURD" is a double-recursive acronym!"), but to us normals they sound stupid. GNU is a stupid name IMO and trying to push it to everywhere (like Gnome and GNU/Linux) is equally stupid. HURD is plain weird, Etherape... I'm not even going to comment on that. Vim? That name doesn't tell anything on what that product does. KDE? It gets tiresome to have "K" everywhere (altrouhg I do understand that they kust somehow point out that it's KDE-software)...
but in my opinion, the default icons and some of the other look & feel elements really are KDE's biggest weakness and the default icons that ship with KDE need a make-over
So change them! In my KDE I use the nice Crystal iconset I got from www.kde-look.org. Installation took about 2 minutes.
You seem to love the underlying technology of KDE but hate the looks. Well thank god for that, since it would be really difficult to change the technology, whereas you can change the appearance in just few minutes. Saying that "KDE is ugly" is not a valid reason not to use it, since you can change the way it looks
If your company went out of its way to fraudulently misrepresent those services, that customer could sue your company, and that customer could win.
In this case California should sue Logicon, the company that helped the state to make the deal. They claimed that huge savings could be had with Oracle software. Oracle itself didn't seem to influence the decision. Only thing that Oracle did was to sell the state 270.000 licenses of the software, at the request of the state. Nothing wrong there.
I remember seeing this "documentary" about how lining up of the planets in year 200x would cause the end of the world. Massive tidal forces would cause huge earthquakes, which would kill millions all over the world. I was pretty freaked out after I saw it. But hey, I was like 7 years old!
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Anakin, Yoda and Obi-Wan (not sure about the last one though) were jedi Masters. Qui-Gon was Jedi Knight. That might explain it
"This is a server chip. Benchmark it using a database, a web server, number crunching, etc."
In case you don't know, Clawhammer is meant for desktops/workstations. Hell, there's even a mobile version of it in the pipeline! Then we have Clawhammer DP (dual-processor) and Sledgehammer that are meant for servers.
Please, get your facts straight before opening your mouth!
"But doesn't B promote A? I think the goal isn't just to HAVE free software and a free operating system. It is also to preserve, promote, and improve said system. That is what GNU and the FSF are all about. Doing B also does A."
How would giving GNU-project free advertising benefit the free OS that we have today (Linux)? It wouldn't, it would just satisfy the gloryhounds of the GNU-project.
Yes, their project is important. It's goal is to create free OS, not to gain fame and fortune for the project. Their goal has been reached. Why are they then insisting on getting the credit? Like I said, their mission is to create free OS, not to gain fame (at least I haven't seen "fame" or "fortune" mentioned in their mission-statement). Their mission has been accomplished, they should be happy.
Not having the word "GNU" in the name of the OS really doesn't limit their possibilites to improve their software. Linux has already boosted the mindshare of the GNU-project immensly. And if they can't or wont improve their software, someone else will (just look at GCC vs. EGCS)
And not all free projects are part of GNU-project. How would advertising GNU benefit KDE for example? KDE is free software, but it's not GNU-software.
!While on the whole, you are of course entitled to your opinion, but please pardon me for pointing out that WITHOUT the GNU Project, that wouldn't be "Freedom in Software".!
Which is more important:
a) to have free software and free Operating System.
b) to give GNU-project free publicity and recognition
I believe that point a) is more important. ALOT more important. RMS should be grateful that with Linux, we have free Operating System. Instead of really caring for free software, all he seems to care about is the fame and glory of the GNU-project (which has gotten alot more publicity, thanks to Linux).
Yes, GNU-software is important part of a Linux-distro. So what? The fact still is that we now have a free OS. Why does it matter to RMS if it's not called GNU/Linux, if it fulfills the goal of FSF and RMS? Because RMS is so fanatic when it comes to the naming-thingy, it seems that it never was about free software, it was about glory and fame for the GNU-project, and he just used free software as a tool to get that fame. We have now free software and OS, RMS should be happy. He's not. He's annoyed because his project didn't get all the fame and glory.
If it really were about free software, RMS should be extatic that we now have a complete free OS. He's not.
"does anyone find it interesting..."
Not really. They have to have a default desktop (like Red Hat has Gnome), and they chose KDE (propably because Conectiva and SuSE (and Caldera?) are KDE-centric distros.
Of course, you can still run Gnome on United Linux
I'm currently running Debian, but I'm planning to switch to gentoo in the near future. As to the capabilities of Portage... From their website:
"Portage is a true ports system in the tradition of BSD ports, but is Python-based and sports a number of advanced features including dependencies, fine-grained package management, "fake" (OpenBSD-style) installs, path sandboxing, safe unmerging, system profiles, virtual packages, config file management, and more...
Tell Portage what ebuild you'd like to install, and Portage will auto-download, unpack, patch, configure, compile and install the package. Thanks to Portage auto-dependency resolution, you can install KDE 3.0 or GNOME 1.4 by typing in a single command, and the resultant installed binaries will be optimized and customized to your exact specifications."
"Gentoo is going to have to be a pretty trick pony to outdo apt-get."
It already does. Portage does everything apt-get does and more.
If Debian is in freeze, why do some packages get updated while some are not? Mozilla has been updated several times since KDE3 was released, so has several libraries and apps. So why not KDE?
There's something wrong with your setup. I'm still using 2.2.2, and I rarely run in to any problems.
Question: Does it work in Linux? If it does, I might give it a shot
Too bad Gnutella sucks. Is it possible to download file from multiple sources simultaneously? How much stuff is there when compared to Kazaa/FastTrack? After using Gnutella, it seems that there's not as much content and you can only download file from one source at a time.
...towards projects that don't happen to be his pet-projects. I mean, he seems to be hostile towards Linux (and Linus). It seems to me that he's annoyed by the fact that Linux came along and stole the thunder that was reserved for his pet-project: HURD. Well, Stallman and FSF has no-one but themselves to blame. They have been working on HURD for as long as I can remember, and it's still unfinished!
Another example is KDE. There used to be genuine reason for him to be annoyed, but those reasons have been corrected. KDE is GPL-compliant. Yet he seems to be rather hostile towards KDE. His biased towards Gnome (the official GNU Desktop) is rather obvious.
It seems to me that he's negative towards software-projects that compete with official GNU-projects (Linux vs. HURD, KDE vs. Gnome). One would think that RMS would be happy when GPL-software gets more popular, but his ego seems to get in the way. He wants HIS projects to succeed, not some other projects. And if he can't beat that other project, he then insists that The Mark of GNU must be placed on that project (Linux is beating HURD, so he insists that Linux gets named GNU/Linux). I bet if KDE started to show sings of killing Gnome, RMS would insist that KDE get's renamed to GDE (GNU Desktop Environment) or something similar.
As to the naming of Linux... I will keep on calling it "Linux", thank you very much. If I need to separate the kernel from the OS, I will talk about "The Linux Kernel". Nothing in the GPL suggests that it must be named after the GNU-project. I might have started to call it GNU/Linux, but RMS's foaming-at-the-mouth attitude has turned me away from his suggestions.
"Don't forget, the taxes were already paid on these funds when earned"
Negative. Microsoft hasn't paid any taxes in years.
Marcelo thinks that the new IDE-stuff needs alot of testing before it can be released. That is why we are having a long delay in the 2.4.x series. If you want more up-to-date 2.4.x kernel. use the -ac tree
http://www.kernelnewbies.org/status/latest.html
"You are demanding that others apply your rules to their interactions with you."
No I'm not. I'm giving them the right to choose what's best for them. They can freely choose whether to have an abortion or not. But they have NO right to go around and try to force others to think and act like they do! I think everyone has the right to make up their own mind, no matter that are they pro-life or pro-choice. What no-one can do, however, is to try to force others to think and act like they do (this applies to both pro-choice and pro-life camps, but I haven't seen pro-choice people go around killing people who happen to disagree with them).
In short: They can make decisions for themselves. they can decide to have an abortion or not. But they can NOT make decisions for other people. That's basically what pro-life/pro-choice debate is about. Pro-choice is about letting everyone decide for themselves whether to have an abortion or not. Pro-life is about trying to force everyone to think like some right-wing christian-fundamentalists do.
"Why are people so protective of children and babies? Because they're defenceless human beings who deserve the right to grow up and fulfill their potential. Unfulfilled potential applies doubly to unborn children."
The collection of cells that are aborted are not children. They cannot feel nor think. They are just that: a collection of cells. Now they have a potential of becoming sentient, feeling humans. But while they are nothing but a collection of cells, they are not human.
How can you "murder" something that cannot feel, isn't self-aware and cannot think? Cattle has all those qualities, yet we feel no remorse when we kill them in the millions so we could eat them. You cannot be against abortion because those cells have the potential of becoming human. If you did that, then you must be against masturbation, since all those sperm have the potential of becoming a human under the right circumstances. Just like those aborted cells had the potential of becoming human under right circumstances.
If you don't want abortion, fine. You have the right not to get an abortion (if you were woman that is). But you cannot go around demanding that other people must live according to your rules! You don't have the right to force others to act and think like you do!
Enigma: The Eyes of truth
You don't know hot to cut 'n paste?
Product-names seem to be the pitfall in Linux/Open Source-software. And Gnome is no exception. I mean, let's look at some names shall we?
Vim
Etherape
Everything related to KDE
GNU
Everything related to GNU
HURD
etc.
Those names might sound "cool" to hackers ("whoa, "HURD" is a double-recursive acronym!"), but to us normals they sound stupid. GNU is a stupid name IMO and trying to push it to everywhere (like Gnome and GNU/Linux) is equally stupid. HURD is plain weird, Etherape... I'm not even going to comment on that. Vim? That name doesn't tell anything on what that product does. KDE? It gets tiresome to have "K" everywhere (altrouhg I do understand that they kust somehow point out that it's KDE-software)...
but in my opinion, the default icons and some of the other look & feel elements really are KDE's biggest weakness and the default icons that ship with KDE need a make-over
So change them! In my KDE I use the nice Crystal iconset I got from www.kde-look.org. Installation took about 2 minutes.
You seem to love the underlying technology of KDE but hate the looks. Well thank god for that, since it would be really difficult to change the technology, whereas you can change the appearance in just few minutes. Saying that "KDE is ugly" is not a valid reason not to use it, since you can change the way it looks
If your company went out of its way to fraudulently misrepresent those services, that customer could sue your company, and that customer could win.
In this case California should sue Logicon, the company that helped the state to make the deal. They claimed that huge savings could be had with Oracle software. Oracle itself didn't seem to influence the decision. Only thing that Oracle did was to sell the state 270.000 licenses of the software, at the request of the state. Nothing wrong there.
I remember seeing this "documentary" about how lining up of the planets in year 200x would cause the end of the world. Massive tidal forces would cause huge earthquakes, which would kill millions all over the world. I was pretty freaked out after I saw it. But hey, I was like 7 years old!
At last, Microsoft has software that's good for something!
Not at all. The water from my faucet is of a completely different quality than that provided by bottled water distributors
Yep, you are right. Numerous studies have shown that bottled water is of poorer quality than regular water from your faucet.