apparently you didn't use enough profanity or brag enough about martial arts skills and willingness to fight anyone who disagrees with you. ramp that up and see what happens.
these businesses tried to pass copyright law inside anti-terrorism legislation. that's not a strawman. it's not lame. you are saying that the author imagined that this was an anti-terrorism bill?
as i insist? i don't insist anything. Jack Valenti testified before the government in an investigation entitled "International Copyright Piracy: Links to Organized Crime and Terrorism". Are you going to tell me that he wasn't there to talk about copyright and ties between piracy and terrorism? the name is a straw man imagined up by whoever chaired the subcommittee?
you asked for examples. i was bored - took ten minutes to find you a couple and you then turn around and say they aren't examples at all. i see in other parts of this thread you've equated violating copyright with murder. at the same time your original post i replied to says that the statement certain legal whores who allow or act to bring certain types of "private lawsuit" is alluding to the riaa as terrorists. so gaining the right to hack people's computers in an antiterrorism bill is a straw man - but the words private lawsuit in quotes is a satisfactory allusion to terrorism. you live in a weird reality. and the funny thing is, you just haven't done any homework. google riaa and terrorism. you will find hundreds of hits where people clearly and definitively state that they believe the actions of the riaa are terrorism. you can drop your weak example. why i'm helping you out with that, i don't know. you should really do the work yourself.
i had another five minutes. read the footnotes of this article. The links were to an mpaa site and they have been pulled - but there has to be a way to track down stuff like Valenti, "International Copyright Piracy: Links to Organized Crime and Terrorism," Testimony before The Subcommittee On Courts, The Internet, And Intellectual Property, Committee on the Judiciary U.S. House of Representatives. It also says Valenti joked about wanting Dmitry Sklyarov executed. well - i'm gonna go do some other stuff - but you may want to think about a new approach on this issue because saying that you are awaiting requested examples from the 'other side' is basically saying 'i have built my position on ignorance of the publicly available facts.'
if people haven't brought up examples it is because they don't care to respond, not because they don't exit. i don't even care too much about this issue, but i read your post - spent 5 minutes on google and found this. it is a bit long so i'll throw the relevant part into my post.
Rep. Howard Berman (D-Hollywood) recently introduced the P2P Piracy Prevention Act (H.R. 5211). This law essentially gives any copyright-holder the right to break any existing law while engaging in technological measures (such as hacking) in the course of protecting their content. They must give prior notice to the government, but there is no approval is required, and the government must keep secret any notice it receives. Large copyright holders sought this immunity in the counter-terrorism bills that greatly increased penalties for hacking, but the absurdity of equating file sharing to terrorism forced them to withdraw their bid that time. The chances of success are hopefully slim, but it's hard to tell.
so in 2002 copyright holders tried to gain the ability to completely ignore the law to go after those they thought to be violating copyright and tried to do so under the auspices of counter-terrorism. like i said, it took 5 minutes to find that with a google search on the words "copyright violation equated with terrorism".
I went in there pretty often with no goal at all other than to wander around for an hour or two and just look at stuff. And there was a good portion of the place I never even looked at.
I could usually find what I wanted. Of course this does not apply to the really hot ad items that I knew would be gone by the time I got there. But I could usually pick up ram, mobos, cases, etc. It was a good place for cables, and taking family shopping when they needed something. Though I guess one time we were in there looking at lcd projectors and they were out of every model we were interested in. But that was the exception rather than the norm for me.
In my experience Frys is bar none the best techie store I have ever been in. I have never been somewhere with as wide a selection. They carry apple products and a ton of other stuff too. I don't know how big the largest apple store is but you could probably drop it into the average frys.
Because the thing that he is reviewing doesn't work well. He is suggesting spending a little more for something better. The Vista bit is because there isn't much that has Linux pre-installed, and because Vista software is available at your local store, unlike Linux stuff.
My point is you wont get something better for a little more based on his recommendation. And he is saying at more than twice the price - not 'a little bit more'. To many people a couple hundred bucks is not trivial. His two options - Vista on a $450 machine and an Asus Eee PC just scream ignorance. The first would be a completely worthless pig - if it even exists and the second is not even remotely the same type of device. Why not just recommend a Nokia n800 if he's going to depart completely from the desktop market?
It's like something that they noticed it technically qualified as so they started trumpeting it as a design decision to appeal to morons who only want to buy "green" stuff.
Technically qualified? That is the only way it can qualify. We aren't talking about feelings here. He explicitly states that this is a relatively low powered device compared to all the other things that he says later are better. But they didn't pay to get a sticker that says so. You call that shady? I don't even know how to deal with that kind of thinking. It consumes less power - period. Can you imagine the savings if millions of these were running 24x7 instead of all the power hogs out there? Seriously. My parents have a 64 bit dual core machine that they use to read email and create writer documents. It's got a light up case - built for gamers. It's sad. How many of those are out there? How much better off would we be if they were all swapped out for a machine like this that used drastically less power? Who cares if it is certified?
The fact that the change wouldn't even stick over reboots is problematic.
It did stick after boot once he figured out how to do it. Oh no! A learning curve! Please. I bet it took 10 minutes to figure out.
Many people aren't going to know that they can't buy this thing then walk down to Office Max and buy a copy of program X and expect to have it work.
I just checked the product page for this PC at the walmart site. The OS is mentioned by name at least 4 times.
I got the feeling that he would have given it a much higher rating if the OS didn't have so many problems.
Once again, I haven't seen any major problems pointed out. Just some small annoyances that somehow outweigh a lack of problems with viruses, malware and security vulnerabilities.
I don't think it is a conspiracy either. I think it is a sloppy, poorly thought out review.
I can honestly say I wouldn't throw a fit if I had a windows machine where I had to adjust the screen res. In fact I have a laptop at work that forces me to do so on a pretty regular basis.
Should the modem work - yes. Should a person use this pc if they don't have broadband? No. I think they would have been better off just leaving it out. My guess is it was cheaper to leave it in than have it removed. They probably have these manufactured in bulk for multiple purposes.
Not installing flash is weird, but it isn't hard. I do it every time I add Firefox to a pc - windows or linux. It's not a big deal. If seeing the three options on the adobe download page is overwhelming and hard - then lots of things with any computer will be. And if I got that call for help that he guarantees will come, I'd just walk the person through the very clear, very simple instructions on the Adobe site - and they would be done. No big deal. I'd consider it a decent trade off for the calls on a regular basis asking for help in cleaning up spyware or malware.
Of course it isn't a great machine. Neither is my pda/phone. But it is o.k. for what it is and should be judged within those parameters.
I read the entire thing more than once. I did not choose to reproduce the entire thing in my post. Is this what would have been necessary to convince you that I did so?
Given the ultra-cheap nature of this computer, it's something that any competent reviewer would put in the article
Really? Is that why every time I read a review of a low end windows machine they point out repeatedly that I wont be able to run apple or linux software on it?
But, for $150 more you could get something that is a good value.
No - for $250 more. Did you read the whole review?
Now to be fair to the guy, he spends most of his time complaining about how the gOS is just a messed up version of Ubuntu with all this random marketing crap to make it sound like a google computer, and to put all this weird, crazy marketing stuff on it.
No he doesn't. Once again, did you read the whole thing? This is slashdot so I guess not. (sorry but that little snide remark of yours bothered me more than the rest of this.) That is one of his points but certainly not the bulk of his review. He spends equal time on the other issues that I brought up. The marketing over substance is just one part. It is probably the most accurate - the other stuff is either self-contradictory or completely insignificant.
No $199 PC will show everything Linux can do. No $199 pc will show everything any OS can do - except maybe some variant of dos. So why judge it on a standard it can't and isn't meant to meet? Why lie and say that a viable option is a $450 Vista machine? Why knock limited Linux functionality and then recommend the Eee PC at twice the price but less processor and storage? This review is inconsistent with itself and looks like it was written by someone who had a score in mind and then needed to make up a list to justify that score.
They are going to come out with a modem driver for it, I guess that was their rationale for putting it in the box. I don't see why they did, because using it would be defeating the entire point of the machine.
They didn't install flash - but doing so is super easy. The review says so but spins it in a way to make it seem like it isn't.
Yes another distro. So?
Compare it to a Dell Ubuntu PC? Does Dell have a $199 ubuntu PC? Because if they don't, I'd like to compare a Dell Ubuntu PC to one of my IBM P550s.
This review isn't just nitpicky - it completely misses the point on a number of fronts. Here are a couple:
Save up for just a little longer and buy something for at least $450 that runs Windows Vista, or get the ASUS Eee PC 4G laptop.
A major selling point of this is that it is cheap and his first recommendation is buying something more than twice as expensive. Not only that, but he recommends buying a $450 system with Vista. Are there companies selling systems at that price with hardware even capable of running Vista? If so, sight unseen, I can gaurantee you that they suck. The Eee PC is a sweet little machine, in my estimation, but it is no replacement for a desktop. Whenever I see someone griping about the Eee PC it is because they are expecting it to act like a desktop and it isn't one. Also - the Eee PC doesn't answer his critique of this system not running windows and mac apps. So he is just fishing for things to pile up against the system even if they aren't consistent with one another.
The upside is that the processor consumes only 20W peak by itself, and during use, the PC did keep its overall power usage to the 20W-to-50W range. Another nit to pick about gPC's green claims: While the VIA processor is low-power-consuming and Everex claims the gPC is fully RoHS (Reduction of Hazardous Substances) compliant, it has no Energy Star rating or EPEAT certification. That's not a nitpick. It's stupid. The thing uses less energy than most other systems, he says so himself, so he complains that this fact is not certified. Apparently certified and using more energy is more environmentally friendly than not certified and using less energy.
You could buy this PC to use for a hardware project, such as for installing Windows Home Server or another flavor of Linux. For those purposes, however, I would recommend you just use that old Pentium III box in your closet,... Windows home server? So now you are better off buying an underpowered Vista machine at twice the price or taking Linux off this box and replacing it with a buggy windows product. Nice. But dig up an old PIII because for some reason that's better. No explanation of how or why but the mind boggles.
The setup sheet rightly notes that, for the PC to fully function, you need a broadband Internet connection with an Ethernet cable. The picture on the setup sheet, however, points to the included modem... The words are right, the picture is wrong. In other words the documentation doesn't exactly match with reality. I have to say that this has been true of more products that I've bought than has not been true. Anyone wanting to run a PC that is advertised as relying on the internet for full functionality over dial up, is going to be frustrated by anything they buy, no matter how powerful because dialup sucks.
He had to change the monitor resolution. That's rough. He had to install Flash and had choices that confused him. That's a curious oversight on the part of the manufacturer but hardly a show stopper.
Needless to say, programs written for Mac OS X or Windows that you can buy online or in a retail store won't work on the Linux-based gPC it's mainly a Web-based PC. Wow - that's almost like investigative reporting. It's a web-based PC? I'd have never guessed that from all the advertising. I shouldn't get snarky I guess, but come on. He's upset because this isn't a high end desktop that can run mad and windows apps. He wants it to be a G5 but it isn't so it gets a low rating. If he rated cars only high-end sports cars would get a chance. Anything else would be under powered and without the luxuries he expects on every vehicle regardless of price.
He is right about getting what you pay for. And more is quite often better. But the slightly more difficult question is "How much is enough?" And for many people, in my experience, this cheap little machine is enough. Why should it be punished because he wants more?
Well, if this keeps up, you wont need to be wishing the catalog was larger for too much longer. The service hasn't been around for all that long and has been growing rather quickly.
I get an email back about my pizza. That's close enough for me. I wonder what this will look like for the starbucks employees. I was joking about stealing drinks myself but I can't see how this wont make such activity trivial for the less morally inhibited among us.
I haven't read the whole patent, and I don't intend to do so. I'm sure there is some very specific crap in there to somehow make this 'different' and 'patentable'. But the truth of the matter is that patenting the process is asinine. I buy pizza this way all the time and have been doing so for a while. I order it and pay online. I walk in, give my name and get my order. I don't wait in line.
I may have to stop reading any story dealing with patents because the whole thing has just gone completely beyond insane. The only upside I can see is that I could start going to starbucks with a pda in hand, wait to see some tasty drink put out for pickup and snag it before the rightful owner. Free drinks.
That's why I put in the last part. The mac. I wouldn't wish vista on anyone, much less myself.
But I think that it's worth moving outside the box of the question. A number of others did too, as I see reading down through the thread. To me, one of these all in one machines is great for people with lots of money or folks who aren't tech oriented. I think that opinion is relevant to the discussion even if it doesn't directly answer the question.
"Would you choose the better hardware of the Dell XPS One -which is more expensive- or the elegant design and software of the Apple iMac?"
Personally, I'm still choosing neither. Why? Because I can't afford them and I don't spend enough time using a desktop machine to justify it if I could. I put money into my laptops, because that's where I live and work. For my desktop, I want a big case that I can dig around and play in. And for the most part it's all cheap stuff. Would an imac be nice? Sure. Just like a Mercedes would be a lot nicer than my '95 Taurus. But the Taurus and my gateway case with a motherboard I got on special at Frys do the job - and that is enough.
When family our friends are looking for a new home pc - if they are looking for something in the price range of the imac - I encourage them to go that route without hesitation.
This is a bit late - but thanks for the comment on my book review in the firehose. I can't find anyway to reply there - been archived I guess. I appreciate the feedback.
I was in a police helicopter this last Sunday doing a ride along. We were never going 100 mph at 1,000 feet. We were usually much lower and much slower. Over our calls we would orbit. We were over one position for 20 minutes or possibly more.
My point, that apparently didn't get across, is that I will get less because I'm paying less. This guy has opted for a plan that restricts the amount he can download or he has to pay more. The ISP used to host OpenOffice and allow users to download it without it counting against the cap. Now they don't. He can still go download it - but it may force him to end up paying more for his internet access. And I don't see why that is the ISPs problem. Just like I don't blame Delta that I will have less room on my flight - unless somebody decides to upgrade my ticket for me. I figured if you wanted this persons ISP to upgrade his account for free, you might want to upgrade my flight.
didn't read TFA did ya? If you did - but still hold that opinion, I'm flying to Hungary next month and first class seats were way out of my budget. Can you mail me $2400 dollars so I don't have to ride back in coach? It'd be the right thing to do.
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apparently you didn't use enough profanity or brag enough about martial arts skills and willingness to fight anyone who disagrees with you. ramp that up and see what happens.
you don't care about the facts.
these businesses tried to pass copyright law inside anti-terrorism legislation. that's not a strawman. it's not lame. you are saying that the author imagined that this was an anti-terrorism bill?
as i insist? i don't insist anything. Jack Valenti testified before the government in an investigation entitled "International Copyright Piracy: Links to Organized Crime and Terrorism". Are you going to tell me that he wasn't there to talk about copyright and ties between piracy and terrorism? the name is a straw man imagined up by whoever chaired the subcommittee?
you asked for examples. i was bored - took ten minutes to find you a couple and you then turn around and say they aren't examples at all. i see in other parts of this thread you've equated violating copyright with murder. at the same time your original post i replied to says that the statement certain legal whores who allow or act to bring certain types of "private lawsuit" is alluding to the riaa as terrorists. so gaining the right to hack people's computers in an antiterrorism bill is a straw man - but the words private lawsuit in quotes is a satisfactory allusion to terrorism. you live in a weird reality. and the funny thing is, you just haven't done any homework. google riaa and terrorism. you will find hundreds of hits where people clearly and definitively state that they believe the actions of the riaa are terrorism. you can drop your weak example. why i'm helping you out with that, i don't know. you should really do the work yourself.
i had another five minutes. read the footnotes of this article. The links were to an mpaa site and they have been pulled - but there has to be a way to track down stuff like Valenti, "International Copyright Piracy: Links to Organized Crime and Terrorism," Testimony before The Subcommittee On Courts, The Internet, And Intellectual Property, Committee on the Judiciary U.S. House of Representatives. It also says Valenti joked about wanting Dmitry Sklyarov executed. well - i'm gonna go do some other stuff - but you may want to think about a new approach on this issue because saying that you are awaiting requested examples from the 'other side' is basically saying 'i have built my position on ignorance of the publicly available facts.'
if people haven't brought up examples it is because they don't care to respond, not because they don't exit. i don't even care too much about this issue, but i read your post - spent 5 minutes on google and found this. it is a bit long so i'll throw the relevant part into my post.
Rep. Howard Berman (D-Hollywood) recently introduced the P2P Piracy Prevention Act (H.R. 5211). This law essentially gives any copyright-holder the right to break any existing law while engaging in technological measures (such as hacking) in the course of protecting their content. They must give prior notice to the government, but there is no approval is required, and the government must keep secret any notice it receives. Large copyright holders sought this immunity in the counter-terrorism bills that greatly increased penalties for hacking, but the absurdity of equating file sharing to terrorism forced them to withdraw their bid that time. The chances of success are hopefully slim, but it's hard to tell.
so in 2002 copyright holders tried to gain the ability to completely ignore the law to go after those they thought to be violating copyright and tried to do so under the auspices of counter-terrorism. like i said, it took 5 minutes to find that with a google search on the words "copyright violation equated with terrorism".
I went in there pretty often with no goal at all other than to wander around for an hour or two and just look at stuff. And there was a good portion of the place I never even looked at.
I could usually find what I wanted. Of course this does not apply to the really hot ad items that I knew would be gone by the time I got there. But I could usually pick up ram, mobos, cases, etc. It was a good place for cables, and taking family shopping when they needed something. Though I guess one time we were in there looking at lcd projectors and they were out of every model we were interested in. But that was the exception rather than the norm for me.
In my experience Frys is bar none the best techie store I have ever been in. I have never been somewhere with as wide a selection. They carry apple products and a ton of other stuff too. I don't know how big the largest apple store is but you could probably drop it into the average frys.
Because the thing that he is reviewing doesn't work well. He is suggesting spending a little more for something better. The Vista bit is because there isn't much that has Linux pre-installed, and because Vista software is available at your local store, unlike Linux stuff.
My point is you wont get something better for a little more based on his recommendation. And he is saying at more than twice the price - not 'a little bit more'. To many people a couple hundred bucks is not trivial. His two options - Vista on a $450 machine and an Asus Eee PC just scream ignorance. The first would be a completely worthless pig - if it even exists and the second is not even remotely the same type of device. Why not just recommend a Nokia n800 if he's going to depart completely from the desktop market?
It's like something that they noticed it technically qualified as so they started trumpeting it as a design decision to appeal to morons who only want to buy "green" stuff.
Technically qualified? That is the only way it can qualify. We aren't talking about feelings here. He explicitly states that this is a relatively low powered device compared to all the other things that he says later are better. But they didn't pay to get a sticker that says so. You call that shady? I don't even know how to deal with that kind of thinking. It consumes less power - period. Can you imagine the savings if millions of these were running 24x7 instead of all the power hogs out there? Seriously. My parents have a 64 bit dual core machine that they use to read email and create writer documents. It's got a light up case - built for gamers. It's sad. How many of those are out there? How much better off would we be if they were all swapped out for a machine like this that used drastically less power? Who cares if it is certified?
The fact that the change wouldn't even stick over reboots is problematic.
It did stick after boot once he figured out how to do it. Oh no! A learning curve! Please. I bet it took 10 minutes to figure out.
Many people aren't going to know that they can't buy this thing then walk down to Office Max and buy a copy of program X and expect to have it work.
I just checked the product page for this PC at the walmart site. The OS is mentioned by name at least 4 times.
I got the feeling that he would have given it a much higher rating if the OS didn't have so many problems.
Once again, I haven't seen any major problems pointed out. Just some small annoyances that somehow outweigh a lack of problems with viruses, malware and security vulnerabilities.
I don't think it is a conspiracy either. I think it is a sloppy, poorly thought out review.
I can honestly say I wouldn't throw a fit if I had a windows machine where I had to adjust the screen res. In fact I have a laptop at work that forces me to do so on a pretty regular basis.
Should the modem work - yes. Should a person use this pc if they don't have broadband? No. I think they would have been better off just leaving it out. My guess is it was cheaper to leave it in than have it removed. They probably have these manufactured in bulk for multiple purposes.
Not installing flash is weird, but it isn't hard. I do it every time I add Firefox to a pc - windows or linux. It's not a big deal. If seeing the three options on the adobe download page is overwhelming and hard - then lots of things with any computer will be. And if I got that call for help that he guarantees will come, I'd just walk the person through the very clear, very simple instructions on the Adobe site - and they would be done. No big deal. I'd consider it a decent trade off for the calls on a regular basis asking for help in cleaning up spyware or malware.
Of course it isn't a great machine. Neither is my pda/phone. But it is o.k. for what it is and should be judged within those parameters.
and it takes actually reading the article
I read the entire thing more than once. I did not choose to reproduce the entire thing in my post. Is this what would have been necessary to convince you that I did so?
Given the ultra-cheap nature of this computer, it's something that any competent reviewer would put in the article
Really? Is that why every time I read a review of a low end windows machine they point out repeatedly that I wont be able to run apple or linux software on it?
But, for $150 more you could get something that is a good value.
No - for $250 more. Did you read the whole review?
Now to be fair to the guy, he spends most of his time complaining about how the gOS is just a messed up version of Ubuntu with all this random marketing crap to make it sound like a google computer, and to put all this weird, crazy marketing stuff on it.
No he doesn't. Once again, did you read the whole thing? This is slashdot so I guess not. (sorry but that little snide remark of yours bothered me more than the rest of this.) That is one of his points but certainly not the bulk of his review. He spends equal time on the other issues that I brought up. The marketing over substance is just one part. It is probably the most accurate - the other stuff is either self-contradictory or completely insignificant.
No $199 PC will show everything Linux can do. No $199 pc will show everything any OS can do - except maybe some variant of dos. So why judge it on a standard it can't and isn't meant to meet? Why lie and say that a viable option is a $450 Vista machine? Why knock limited Linux functionality and then recommend the Eee PC at twice the price but less processor and storage? This review is inconsistent with itself and looks like it was written by someone who had a score in mind and then needed to make up a list to justify that score.
They are going to come out with a modem driver for it, I guess that was their rationale for putting it in the box. I don't see why they did, because using it would be defeating the entire point of the machine.
They didn't install flash - but doing so is super easy. The review says so but spins it in a way to make it seem like it isn't.
Yes another distro. So?
Compare it to a Dell Ubuntu PC? Does Dell have a $199 ubuntu PC? Because if they don't, I'd like to compare a Dell Ubuntu PC to one of my IBM P550s.
This review isn't just nitpicky - it completely misses the point on a number of fronts. Here are a couple:
Save up for just a little longer and buy something for at least $450 that runs Windows Vista, or get the ASUS Eee PC 4G laptop.
A major selling point of this is that it is cheap and his first recommendation is buying something more than twice as expensive. Not only that, but he recommends buying a $450 system with Vista. Are there companies selling systems at that price with hardware even capable of running Vista? If so, sight unseen, I can gaurantee you that they suck. The Eee PC is a sweet little machine, in my estimation, but it is no replacement for a desktop. Whenever I see someone griping about the Eee PC it is because they are expecting it to act like a desktop and it isn't one. Also - the Eee PC doesn't answer his critique of this system not running windows and mac apps. So he is just fishing for things to pile up against the system even if they aren't consistent with one another.
The upside is that the processor consumes only 20W peak by itself, and during use, the PC did keep its overall power usage to the 20W-to-50W range.
Another nit to pick about gPC's green claims: While the VIA processor is low-power-consuming and Everex claims the gPC is fully RoHS (Reduction of Hazardous Substances) compliant, it has no Energy Star rating or EPEAT certification.
That's not a nitpick. It's stupid. The thing uses less energy than most other systems, he says so himself, so he complains that this fact is not certified. Apparently certified and using more energy is more environmentally friendly than not certified and using less energy.
You could buy this PC to use for a hardware project, such as for installing Windows Home Server or another flavor of Linux. For those purposes, however, I would recommend you just use that old Pentium III box in your closet,...
Windows home server? So now you are better off buying an underpowered Vista machine at twice the price or taking Linux off this box and replacing it with a buggy windows product. Nice. But dig up an old PIII because for some reason that's better. No explanation of how or why but the mind boggles.
The setup sheet rightly notes that, for the PC to fully function, you need a broadband Internet connection with an Ethernet cable. The picture on the setup sheet, however, points to the included modem...
The words are right, the picture is wrong. In other words the documentation doesn't exactly match with reality. I have to say that this has been true of more products that I've bought than has not been true. Anyone wanting to run a PC that is advertised as relying on the internet for full functionality over dial up, is going to be frustrated by anything they buy, no matter how powerful because dialup sucks.
He had to change the monitor resolution. That's rough. He had to install Flash and had choices that confused him. That's a curious oversight on the part of the manufacturer but hardly a show stopper.
Needless to say, programs written for Mac OS X or Windows that you can buy online or in a retail store won't work on the Linux-based gPC it's mainly a Web-based PC.
Wow - that's almost like investigative reporting. It's a web-based PC? I'd have never guessed that from all the advertising. I shouldn't get snarky I guess, but come on. He's upset because this isn't a high end desktop that can run mad and windows apps. He wants it to be a G5 but it isn't so it gets a low rating. If he rated cars only high-end sports cars would get a chance. Anything else would be under powered and without the luxuries he expects on every vehicle regardless of price.
He is right about getting what you pay for. And more is quite often better. But the slightly more difficult question is "How much is enough?" And for many people, in my experience, this cheap little machine is enough. Why should it be punished because he wants more?
Well, if this keeps up, you wont need to be wishing the catalog was larger for too much longer. The service hasn't been around for all that long and has been growing rather quickly.
I get an email back about my pizza. That's close enough for me. I wonder what this will look like for the starbucks employees. I was joking about stealing drinks myself but I can't see how this wont make such activity trivial for the less morally inhibited among us.
I haven't read the whole patent, and I don't intend to do so. I'm sure there is some very specific crap in there to somehow make this 'different' and 'patentable'. But the truth of the matter is that patenting the process is asinine. I buy pizza this way all the time and have been doing so for a while. I order it and pay online. I walk in, give my name and get my order. I don't wait in line.
I may have to stop reading any story dealing with patents because the whole thing has just gone completely beyond insane. The only upside I can see is that I could start going to starbucks with a pda in hand, wait to see some tasty drink put out for pickup and snag it before the rightful owner. Free drinks.
That's why I put in the last part. The mac. I wouldn't wish vista on anyone, much less myself.
But I think that it's worth moving outside the box of the question. A number of others did too, as I see reading down through the thread. To me, one of these all in one machines is great for people with lots of money or folks who aren't tech oriented. I think that opinion is relevant to the discussion even if it doesn't directly answer the question.
"Would you choose the better hardware of the Dell XPS One -which is more expensive- or the elegant design and software of the Apple iMac?"
Personally, I'm still choosing neither. Why? Because I can't afford them and I don't spend enough time using a desktop machine to justify it if I could. I put money into my laptops, because that's where I live and work. For my desktop, I want a big case that I can dig around and play in. And for the most part it's all cheap stuff. Would an imac be nice? Sure. Just like a Mercedes would be a lot nicer than my '95 Taurus. But the Taurus and my gateway case with a motherboard I got on special at Frys do the job - and that is enough.
When family our friends are looking for a new home pc - if they are looking for something in the price range of the imac - I encourage them to go that route without hesitation.
This is a bit late - but thanks for the comment on my book review in the firehose. I can't find anyway to reply there - been archived I guess. I appreciate the feedback.
and they are going to grab what they can before they go the way of comp usa.
Not saying it isn't worthwhile, just bringing in the other number.
They say the burners will be 3-4 grand. Don't leave that out.
you don't have to give at&t permission to listen to your phone calls - the government will.
I was in a police helicopter this last Sunday doing a ride along. We were never going 100 mph at 1,000 feet. We were usually much lower and much slower. Over our calls we would orbit. We were over one position for 20 minutes or possibly more.
My point, that apparently didn't get across, is that I will get less because I'm paying less. This guy has opted for a plan that restricts the amount he can download or he has to pay more. The ISP used to host OpenOffice and allow users to download it without it counting against the cap. Now they don't. He can still go download it - but it may force him to end up paying more for his internet access. And I don't see why that is the ISPs problem. Just like I don't blame Delta that I will have less room on my flight - unless somebody decides to upgrade my ticket for me. I figured if you wanted this persons ISP to upgrade his account for free, you might want to upgrade my flight.
didn't read TFA did ya? If you did - but still hold that opinion, I'm flying to Hungary next month and first class seats were way out of my budget. Can you mail me $2400 dollars so I don't have to ride back in coach? It'd be the right thing to do.
Then they need this one: http://distribution.openoffice.org/cdrom/index.html#cdrom
I can't think up a good reason as to why this company should subsidize a competing product.