Good points. I just got 2 counterpoints. The 20 year warranty is on power output. So nix the one point on degrading.
Also, the 2.5 kilowatt system is the one that breaks even (for me) assuming the price of energy does not go up. If it goes up (very likely) you make out much better on the deal.
I don't know real numbers either, but if a 2.5 kilowatt system can't store enough energy while everyone is at work and school all day to get us through the evening I'd be shocked. The heavy duty $22K 2.5 kW system is marketed for big houses.
I don't know about the rest of the country, but our household budget electric bill averages $82 bucks a month. 20 years, 240 months, that's $19,680 for 20 years of electricy. This site above has a $10K and a $22K system.
Now if you subract the cost of a new roof the deal looks even better. Raise the value of the property, if you live in a sunny area you can even get paid for feeding energy back into the grid. After all a whole roof solar panel that even has some shade functionality would be pretty productive.
Why aren't these at least being put on more new homes?? What a selling point.
Guess that one unix pariah chained up in Microsoft's basement was getting bored again.
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Brain fingerprinting works by measuring and analyzing split-second spikes in electrical activity in the brain when it responds to something it recognizes....if a suspected murderer was shown a detail of the crime scene that only he would know, his brain would involuntarily register that knowledge.... A person who had never seen that crime scene would show no reaction.
So the detail is blood in a clawfoot tub. Maybe you have a clawfoot tub? Maybe you watched a dozen different movies with blood/tub scenes. Maybe you have the same exact Teledyne Waterpic that the murder victim has hanging in his shower. You could recognize anything for any number of reasons. Not only that, but your memory changes over time. After 23 years that guy could have been imagining innocence scenarios for so long it looked to the scanner like he was innocent.
Might as well have a Composting Tax and Gardening Tax for producing your own fertilizer and food. I bet it's a bluff, a feint. The commission really wants something slightly less atrocious, and after this they'll get it.
-It's good we're doing this Moving Forward, my time machine is broken. -I agree on the 5 Action Items, let's call them Tasks for short... -Hey, don't be Touching My Base. -That's not Deliverables that's DiGiorno! -Outside the Box, good idea I need to stretch my legs. -Value Added? No just for fun. -Let's Interface? I think that's against corporate policy.
-I didn't Take Ownership, I leased. Now it's John's Action Item. I Thought Outside The Box and Fired It Down the Chain, it's On His Plate now. We're going to Interface on Wednesday. Moving Forward he will be Tasked with this Deliverable. He is Totally Accountable, a real Team Player. So, wanna Do Lunch? Oh I understand if you're Time Constricted. Well it was good we Got This Out On The Table, glad we're On The Same Page with this. We'll Touch Base later, b-bye!
But on the plus side, I do hear a little less of that crap now.
Fine bad example but you see the dilemma, does it have real edges or doesn't it? If it has boundaries and a specific size then some sort of center must exist. No edges, then what? No size?
That's what I can't get my brain around, if it's expanding then the size must be getting bigger, is that not the definition of expanding? Anything that has a size has boundaries to that size. I'm being simple here for a reason, I want a simple answer to the question in italics. I've been asking since I was 8. I took astronomy courses in college, the ones with requiring calculus, I read Brief History of Time, I've never found an answer to that question that made sense.
OK. That makes sense to me until I read something like..'Peering almost to the edge of the universe, 14 billion light years away, astronomers...whatever'
An isotropic universe can't have edges. If it has edges, then it has some kind of center. If it has no center and no edges then it must be of infinite size. If it has a defined size, then somewhere there are edges to tell us where the size ends. If you go a trillion light years out what do you find? Back where you started? We're all flies trapped in a 3D game of Yars Revenge?
Cosmology is a global study, one in which the universe itself is the object of contemplation, and not any of its parts. The conveyance from the local structure of the universe (the sun, the solar system) to the universe as a whole must be negotiated by a daring series of inferences.
In describing matter on a cosmic scale, cosmologists strip the stars and planets, the great galaxies and the bright bursting supernovae, of their uniqueness as places and things and replace them with an imaginary distribution: the matter of the universe is depicted as a great but uniform and homogeneous cloud covering the cosmos equitably in all its secret places. Cosmologists make this assumption because they must. There is no way to deal with the universe object by object; the equations would be inscrutable, impossible to solve. But however useful the assumption of homogeneity may be mathematically, it is false in the straightforward sense that the distribution of matter in the universe is not homogeneous at all.
Having simplified the contents of the universe, the cosmologist must take care as well, and for the same reason, to strip from the matter that remains any suggestion of particularity or preference in place. The universe, he must assume, is isotropic. It has no center whatsoever, no place toward which things tend, and no special direction or axis of coordination. The thing looks much the same wherever it is observed.
The twin assumptions that the universe is homogeneous and isotropic are not ancillary but indispensable to the hypothesis of an expanding universe; without them, no conclusion can mathematically be forthcoming.
It's the isotropic assumption I have the hardest part with. Even the expanding balloon analogy has a conveniently ignored center, some spot inside the balloon.
Has anybody plotted the galactic courses and traced them backward to where they converge? The center of the universe so to speak? Have we pointed a scope at it? I know it looks the same in every direction, but the convergence point has to be somewhere I've googled extensively and can't find an answer, just explanations of why every point "thinks" it's the center.
I couldn't agree more. So far in human learning we have found that for every action there is a reaction, for every particle an anti-particle, every good an evil, every yin a yang.
Everything in the universe from stars to atoms, amoebas to anteaters goes through some cycle of death and rebirth. Why wouldn't there be a counteractive mechanism to the expansion of the universe? I for one trust the amazing design of the universe to have already accounted for this problem. We just have to figure it out.
The real tragedy of the space shuttle is that, as Benford says, they were up there doing trivial stuff that we likely could have had machines doing at this point.
His article is spot on. He calls for an era of space exploration akin to that of the late 60's. People died. We had a GOAL. They were heroes. Yet we kept going and we made that goal.
Not only does he call for a return to space exploration, but he points the way - centrifugal gravity and long term stand alone bio-support, aka a biosphere.
So what does it take to overcome this tragedy? I dunno, would a million people sending copies of Benford's article to @whitehouse.gov addresses be a start?
Are we just going to putter around for years and turn this into a double tragedy?
You are completely misguided. His resume, experience, and past professional successes are what make him a good prospect. His personal credit record is completely irrelevant. As you've probably read all over this thread, credit reports don't always reflect the truth of the situation. They don't always present an accurate picture. If you can't rely on the report, its worthless. Maybe a guy has a spotless credit report because he beats his wife and makes her ruin her credit. You never know. There's no way to tell. In addition, its none of their goddamned business. The things you might discern from a credit report go far beyond personal financial responsibility.
And if that's not enough, even if he is a financial clod at home, it means nothing. E.g. - The technology at my company runs flawlessly, because I'm in charge of it and its my JOB. The technology at my house is another story completely. I tinker with it. I let it sit and go fishing instead. I try unorthadox things. If you judged my technical ability by my personal technology at home you'd think I was a disorganized mad-scientist. The point is, the way I conduct myself in my personal life HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW I AM PROFESSIONALLY!
How anyone can happily give up their right to privacy and sell off their integrity for something that is worthless, unreliable, invasive, a false indicator at best, is beyond my comprehension.
> Is this the kind of company you want to work for?
Yes, and more importantly, the more people who refuse to submit to this the less companies will do it. It is hard and expensive to go through stacks of resumes, find a good candidate, interview, make an offer, get it accepted, etc.
I walked out on 2 different offers for this very reason. Just the looks on their faces made it worth it. They were back to square one. And my credit was average, OK. If we all would've used our integrity a little more when it would've really counted, and said NO we wouldn't have to pull down our pants and pee in a jar to get a job today. Now its probably too late.
Do yourself and everyone else a big favor, refuse to do it. Period. And make sure the company knows why.
How many of us suddenly found better ways to satisfy our curiosities when Kevin hit the front page?
I'm not saying there are a bunch of former criminal crackers here, just that there are certianly a bunch of us who took relatively harmless, goodwilled, but less than legitimate routes to find things out. Especially when we and the internet were all much younger.
Kevin, you were a cage of canaries. Again I thank you.
Mod that up! I was huge Trek fan. And this is EXACTLY why I don't care anymore. NO continuity.
Ergo: Isn't Wesley supposed to be off with the Traveler? Do they just have Enterprise's all lined up in space dock now so there's no point in even noticing when the ship gets destroyed or limps home?
I could go on a long time in this vein.
I don't care that characters age. Maybe Data does that to appear more human. I don't care about most of the complaints on this thread.
Just do 2 things: Get an ORIGINAL PLOT and incorporate enough of what we know and love so there is CONTINUITY... Old Quarantined planets whose quarantine has run out. Q. Even a little Q. Those giant space blimp creatures who came for their baby. Where is Riker's transporter-generated twin? You telling me they don't even keep in touch? And Hello, Data's an Android. He has amazing powers. How about sending him on Special Mission to visit those advanced black sponge aliens who were so nit-picky about that treaty, they were cool and frightening? Even the odd Tribble would help. Are they extinct? I'm bored of New Life and New Civilizations that we never hear a word of again. I'm sure there are many who could do much better than I've done here, and in less space.
It's almost like the writers have never been Star Trek fans.
I want to call this a Metcalfe's Law problem or a Convergence problem only because it's almost 2am here and I can't think...
But I can't get my doctor to send me paper mail about my next appointment or recent test results. School is lucky if it knows where my child is supposed to be, much less keeping me up to date beyond the static class schedule. What are 200 hundred radio frequency tags in my shopping cart going to do to my grocery bill? Reminds me a bit of the defunct WebVan: "OK everybody we have this great service, EVERYONE better adopt it QUICK or it's doomed. Hello? Hello? Where is everyone?"
Also, the US population isn't growing that fast. How about helping us economically retrofit existing houses with current technology? Or should we just turn them into Low Income Projects and sprawl out even further to build our MS Homes?
Yes. And so does Earthlink. We use them so our traveling salesmen can have cheap local dial-up access wherever they go. They're billing, customer service, and support are all so awful we've given up the luxury of laptops w/dial-up for the most part and just use blackberry's. Calling Earthlink for any reason is hysterical. In most cases we really could dial the psychic hotline and get better results.
Along the same lines, when we honeymooned in Costa Rica we went through an agency we found online - Costa Rica Experts. It was WELL worth it. No surprises, world champion white water guides (rather than brave teens with leaky rafts), an amazing eco-resort, etc. I could go on and on but the bottom line is, since we'd never been there, we avoided all the pitfalls, had cheap reliable transportation wherever we went, and could just spend the whole time gaping at our surroundings and enjoying honeymoon type activities whilst the parrots flew overhead.
Because of the discounts the travel agency gets through it's arrangements, our trip was the same price as I could come up with after hours putting it together myself online, except I only had to make 2 phone calls and it was done.
You will be EXHAUSTED after your wedding. Wherever your destination, a good travel agent pays for themselves and more when it comes to your honeymoon.
Also, the wedding is really for the guests no matter how you slice it, but the Honeymoon is ALL YOURS. Make the most of it.
All along the way to make money from genomics was not to file patents.
The way to make money is to cure disease, repair injuries, and extend life. I'm glad it only took a few years to clear THAT up.
Now let's hope Bush doesn't have too many of our best and brightest running from his lynch-the-cloners plan.
"We will not tolerate this kind of terrorism!
While we continue to hunt down the perpetrators, we are looking into a variety of defense options including but not limted to: The Spud Missle Defense System. The Total Tuber Alert Network. The PATRIOT Act 2 or Potato Anti Threat Response Initiative On Terrorism.
Collectively these efforts will be part of Operation Potato Sack.
If you suspect terrorist activity, which could range from unusually large potato purchases to bioweapon threats like Suspicious Potato Salad, please alert the authorities immediately.
In light of this new information we are raising the National Alert Level to Golden Brown "
You sound 'in the know'. So...those tires seem big enough, and the environment there safe enough, that you could fill them with hydrogen, or at least helium and lighten your ride a bit.
So I guess the weight difference would just be so small even in those gigantic tires that the idea is worthless?
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Good points. I just got 2 counterpoints. The 20 year warranty is on power output. So nix the one point on degrading. Also, the 2.5 kilowatt system is the one that breaks even (for me) assuming the price of energy does not go up. If it goes up (very likely) you make out much better on the deal.
I don't know real numbers either, but if a 2.5 kilowatt system can't store enough energy while everyone is at work and school all day to get us through the evening I'd be shocked. The heavy duty $22K 2.5 kW system is marketed for big houses.
Solar shingles with a 20 year warranty. Available today.
I don't know about the rest of the country, but our household budget electric bill averages $82 bucks a month. 20 years, 240 months, that's $19,680 for 20 years of electricy. This site above has a $10K and a $22K system.
Now if you subract the cost of a new roof the deal looks even better. Raise the value of the property, if you live in a sunny area you can even get paid for feeding energy back into the grid. After all a whole roof solar panel that even has some shade functionality would be pretty productive.
Why aren't these at least being put on more new homes?? What a selling point.
Guess that one unix pariah chained up in Microsoft's basement was getting bored again.
Brain fingerprinting works by measuring and analyzing split-second spikes in electrical activity in the brain when it responds to something it recognizes. ...if a suspected murderer was shown a detail of the crime scene that only he would know, his brain would involuntarily register that knowledge. ... A person who had never seen that crime scene would show no reaction.
So the detail is blood in a clawfoot tub. Maybe you have a clawfoot tub? Maybe you watched a dozen different movies with blood/tub scenes. Maybe you have the same exact Teledyne Waterpic that the murder victim has hanging in his shower. You could recognize anything for any number of reasons. Not only that, but your memory changes over time. After 23 years that guy could have been imagining innocence scenarios for so long it looked to the scanner like he was innocent.
Sorry, I don't buy it at all.
Might as well have a Composting Tax and Gardening Tax for producing your own fertilizer and food. I bet it's a bluff, a feint. The commission really wants something slightly less atrocious, and after this they'll get it.
Old trick. Always works too.
school of humor...
-It's good we're doing this Moving Forward, my time machine is broken.
-I agree on the 5 Action Items, let's call them Tasks for short...
-Hey, don't be Touching My Base.
-That's not Deliverables that's DiGiorno!
-Outside the Box, good idea I need to stretch my legs.
-Value Added? No just for fun.
-Let's Interface? I think that's against corporate policy.
-I didn't Take Ownership, I leased. Now it's John's Action Item. I Thought Outside The Box and Fired It Down the Chain, it's On His Plate now. We're going to Interface on Wednesday. Moving Forward he will be Tasked with this Deliverable. He is Totally Accountable, a real Team Player. So, wanna Do Lunch? Oh I understand if you're Time Constricted. Well it was good we Got This Out On The Table, glad we're On The Same Page with this. We'll Touch Base later, b-bye!
But on the plus side, I do hear a little less of that crap now.
!@#$* Don't give up tobacco and post I guess.
Does it have real edges or doesn't it? Close tag. no karma bonus here. rub nicotine patch vigorously into skin...quit posting.
Fine bad example but you see the dilemma, does it have real edges or doesn't it? If it has boundaries and a specific size then some sort of center must exist. No edges, then what? No size?
That's what I can't get my brain around, if it's expanding then the size must be getting bigger, is that not the definition of expanding? Anything that has a size has boundaries to that size. I'm being simple here for a reason, I want a simple answer to the question in italics. I've been asking since I was 8. I took astronomy courses in college, the ones with requiring calculus, I read Brief History of Time, I've never found an answer to that question that made sense.
OK. That makes sense to me until I read something like..'Peering almost to the edge of the universe, 14 billion light years away, astronomers...whatever'
An isotropic universe can't have edges. If it has edges, then it has some kind of center. If it has no center and no edges then it must be of infinite size. If it has a defined size, then somewhere there are edges to tell us where the size ends. If you go a trillion light years out what do you find? Back where you started? We're all flies trapped in a 3D game of Yars Revenge?
It's the isotropic assumption I have the hardest part with. Even the expanding balloon analogy has a conveniently ignored center, some spot inside the balloon.
Has anybody plotted the galactic courses and traced them backward to where they converge? The center of the universe so to speak? Have we pointed a scope at it? I know it looks the same in every direction, but the convergence point has to be somewhere I've googled extensively and can't find an answer, just explanations of why every point "thinks" it's the center.
I couldn't agree more. So far in human learning we have found that for every action there is a reaction, for every particle an anti-particle, every good an evil, every yin a yang.
Everything in the universe from stars to atoms, amoebas to anteaters goes through some cycle of death and rebirth. Why wouldn't there be a counteractive mechanism to the expansion of the universe? I for one trust the amazing design of the universe to have already accounted for this problem. We just have to figure it out.
The real tragedy of the space shuttle is that, as Benford says, they were up there doing trivial stuff that we likely could have had machines doing at this point.
His article is spot on. He calls for an era of space exploration akin to that of the late 60's. People died. We had a GOAL. They were heroes. Yet we kept going and we made that goal.
Not only does he call for a return to space exploration, but he points the way - centrifugal gravity and long term stand alone bio-support, aka a biosphere.
So what does it take to overcome this tragedy? I dunno, would a million people sending copies of Benford's article to @whitehouse.gov addresses be a start?
Are we just going to putter around for years and turn this into a double tragedy?
Please let's not.
You are completely misguided. His resume, experience, and past professional successes are what make him a good prospect. His personal credit record is completely irrelevant. As you've probably read all over this thread, credit reports don't always reflect the truth of the situation. They don't always present an accurate picture. If you can't rely on the report, its worthless. Maybe a guy has a spotless credit report because he beats his wife and makes her ruin her credit. You never know. There's no way to tell. In addition, its none of their goddamned business. The things you might discern from a credit report go far beyond personal financial responsibility.
And if that's not enough, even if he is a financial clod at home, it means nothing. E.g. - The technology at my company runs flawlessly, because I'm in charge of it and its my JOB. The technology at my house is another story completely. I tinker with it. I let it sit and go fishing instead. I try unorthadox things. If you judged my technical ability by my personal technology at home you'd think I was a disorganized mad-scientist. The point is, the way I conduct myself in my personal life HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW I AM PROFESSIONALLY!
How anyone can happily give up their right to privacy and sell off their integrity for something that is worthless, unreliable, invasive, a false indicator at best, is beyond my comprehension.
> Is this the kind of company you want to work for?
Yes, and more importantly, the more people who refuse to submit to this the less companies will do it. It is hard and expensive to go through stacks of resumes, find a good candidate, interview, make an offer, get it accepted, etc.
I walked out on 2 different offers for this very reason. Just the looks on their faces made it worth it. They were back to square one. And my credit was average, OK. If we all would've used our integrity a little more when it would've really counted, and said NO we wouldn't have to pull down our pants and pee in a jar to get a job today. Now its probably too late.
Do yourself and everyone else a big favor, refuse to do it. Period. And make sure the company knows why.
>back to the bad old days at Microsoft
Drat, I must have missed the good days.
For being the canary in the mine.
How many of us suddenly found better ways to satisfy our curiosities when Kevin hit the front page?
I'm not saying there are a bunch of former criminal crackers here, just that there are certianly a bunch of us who took relatively harmless, goodwilled, but less than legitimate routes to find things out. Especially when we and the internet were all much younger.
Kevin, you were a cage of canaries. Again I thank you.
Mod that up! I was huge Trek fan. And this is EXACTLY why I don't care anymore. NO continuity.
Ergo: Isn't Wesley supposed to be off with the Traveler?
Do they just have Enterprise's all lined up in space dock now so there's no point in even noticing when the ship gets destroyed or limps home?
I could go on a long time in this vein.
I don't care that characters age. Maybe Data does that to appear more human. I don't care about most of the complaints on this thread.
Just do 2 things: Get an ORIGINAL PLOT and incorporate enough of what we know and love so there is CONTINUITY...
Old Quarantined planets whose quarantine has run out. Q. Even a little Q. Those giant space blimp creatures who came for their baby. Where is Riker's transporter-generated twin? You telling me they don't even keep in touch? And Hello, Data's an Android. He has amazing powers. How about sending him on Special Mission to visit those advanced black sponge aliens who were so nit-picky about that treaty, they were cool and frightening? Even the odd Tribble would help. Are they extinct?
I'm bored of New Life and New Civilizations that we never hear a word of again. I'm sure there are many who could do much better than I've done here, and in less space.
It's almost like the writers have never been Star Trek fans.
I'll probably watch Nemises when it hits TBS.
I want to call this a Metcalfe's Law problem or a Convergence problem only because it's almost 2am here and I can't think...
But I can't get my doctor to send me paper mail about my next appointment or recent test results. School is lucky if it knows where my child is supposed to be, much less keeping me up to date beyond the static class schedule. What are 200 hundred radio frequency tags in my shopping cart going to do to my grocery bill? Reminds me a bit of the defunct WebVan: "OK everybody we have this great service, EVERYONE better adopt it QUICK or it's doomed. Hello? Hello? Where is everyone?"
Also, the US population isn't growing that fast. How about helping us economically retrofit existing houses with current technology? Or should we just turn them into Low Income Projects and sprawl out even further to build our MS Homes?
Yes. And so does Earthlink. We use them so our traveling salesmen can have cheap local dial-up access wherever they go. They're billing, customer service, and support are all so awful we've given up the luxury of laptops w/dial-up for the most part and just use blackberry's. Calling Earthlink for any reason is hysterical. In most cases we really could dial the psychic hotline and get better results.
I can't believe we're still using soldiers with blood in them.
Along the same lines, when we honeymooned in Costa Rica we went through an agency we found online - Costa Rica Experts. It was WELL worth it. No surprises, world champion white water guides (rather than brave teens with leaky rafts), an amazing eco-resort, etc. I could go on and on but the bottom line is, since we'd never been there, we avoided all the pitfalls, had cheap reliable transportation wherever we went, and could just spend the whole time gaping at our surroundings and enjoying honeymoon type activities whilst the parrots flew overhead.
Because of the discounts the travel agency gets through it's arrangements, our trip was the same price as I could come up with after hours putting it together myself online, except I only had to make 2 phone calls and it was done.
You will be EXHAUSTED after your wedding. Wherever your destination, a good travel agent pays for themselves and more when it comes to your honeymoon.
Also, the wedding is really for the guests no matter how you slice it, but the Honeymoon is ALL YOURS. Make the most of it.
All along the way to make money from genomics was not to file patents.
The way to make money is to cure disease, repair injuries, and extend life. I'm glad it only took a few years to clear THAT up.
Now let's hope Bush doesn't have too many of our best and brightest running from his lynch-the-cloners plan.
"We will not tolerate this kind of terrorism! While we continue to hunt down the perpetrators, we are looking into a variety of defense options including but not limted to:
The Spud Missle Defense System.
The Total Tuber Alert Network.
The PATRIOT Act 2 or Potato Anti Threat Response Initiative On Terrorism.
Collectively these efforts will be part of Operation Potato Sack.
If you suspect terrorist activity, which could range from unusually large potato purchases to bioweapon threats like Suspicious Potato Salad, please alert the authorities immediately.
In light of this new information we are raising the National Alert Level to Golden Brown "
You can quit when you're dead.
You sound 'in the know'.
So...those tires seem big enough, and the environment there safe enough, that you could fill them with hydrogen, or at least helium and lighten your ride a bit.
So I guess the weight difference would just be so small even in those gigantic tires that the idea is worthless?