If you meant your question sincerely, then I apologize for overreacting.
I read your question as being similar to those commercials that ask a rhetorical question designed to mislead the customer, such as: "What have you got to lose???!??" Realistically, the answer is always "money, time, and effort", and those who ask this question know that. They do not sincerely want to know the answer to the question -- they want to put the consumer in a certain mindset.
If you were unaware of the sad software situation of the Freerunner, then I apologize. Now you know.:-) Cheers.
Are the hardware specifications of a cell phone the only relevant thing? Absolutely not. Hardware defines the device's potential, but the device's quality is determined in a large part by its software. And Openmoko Freerunner's software stack is pretty sucky right now.
A great example of why all but a handful of people may prefer an iPhone to a Freerunner is this month's discussion of filesystem images on the mailing list. Apparently there's an FSO image ("make and receive calls. That's about it."), an ASU image ("qtopia apps don't start if I have the SIM in the phone"), a GTK image ("more or less what the phone came preloaded with"), a ScaredyCat image ("mostly works"). This should make it pretty clear that a Freerunner is not a consumer-ready device and is definitely NOT an iPhone equivalent.
A Freerunner should only be purchased by those who are fully prepared to deal with it as a hobby rather than as a consumer-ready phone/PDA. Posts like yours are misleading and do a disservice both to the consumer and to the Openmoko project.
I wasn't claiming to be the first to bring up the question. Oh, I wasn't trying to put you in your place or anything like that.:) I was merely suggesting further reading to you and to the grandparent. I was very impressed by the research done in that essay -- it's quite a masterpiece.
In my experience, direct rendering is by far the most important factor in Google Earth's smoothness.
I have a Compaq nc6400 laptop with an Intel Core 2 Duo and an ATI Mobility X1300 video card. Without direct rendering, I am lucky to get three frames per second when Google Earth is zooming/moving. With direct rendering (through fglrx), the smoothness is incredible.
Same goes for glxgears: full-screen gets me 168 fps with direct rendering, and less than 3 fps without.
There are plenty of synthetic, breathable mesh riding outfits that will protect you far better than the jeans and t-shirts that most riders wear. I am planning to buy a motorcycle soon, so this is a genuine question: can you provide some links to some breathable mesh riding outfits that offer good protection? In Texas, weather all-out leather is suicide in the summer.
Using my Samsung SGH-T509 cell phone as a dial-up modem (over a USB cable), I typically experience latency of 700-1200ms. My cellular provider is T-Mobile, and I'm in Richardson, Texas. The speed is about 25 KB/s at best, though T-Mobile allows this luxury only for HTTP connections; the rest are throttled to about 4-6 KB/s.
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This is a great device; thanks for linking to it. An 8.1-inch screen is awesome.
How rugged is it? Can it be dropped? Can it have continuous force applied to parts of it in a backpack?
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According to Wikipedia, "As of May 3, 2007 Mobipocket is supported, making the mobipocket DRM content available on this platform."
You can buy anything with currency. The real test might be, does the government have an interest in protecting the integrity of Linden currency to the extent of US currency?
Alternately, can one buy US currency with Linden currency? However, this test would merely cause theft of Linden currency to be a crime with "real" damages; it would not require the storage and management of currency to be as secure as with banks.
I am very excited about the Neo1973, but as much as I would like to buy it, I won't for a simple reason: it supports only up to 2.5G. No 3G, no EDGE (2.75G). I think in today's age of ubiquitous wireless data FIC made a short-sighted decision, so I'll either wait for the first "open-source" phone with 3G support, or bite the bullet and buy yet another proprietary phone.
As many others have pointed out in this discussion, what you bought is the hardware and a license to the firmware/software. You bought these two with the knowledge that the manufacturer claims that you can only use these with AT&T. So, certainly, the iPhone is yours, and you can do with the hardware whatever you wish -- no one argues against that. However, this does not entitle you to anything more. If you try to use this phone with T-Mobile, you should not expect Apple to support you.
Lastly, please don't forget that in your examples -- preferring Aero to DRM, preferring web 2.0 to privacy -- you, the consumer, are making a choice of your own free will. Would you prefer the government to step in and "protect" you by forcing you to make certain choices?
My only experience with Couchsurfing has been excellent.
I'm a Texan who recently went to the Ohio LinuxFest 2006 with three others. We've found a great male couple on Couchsurfing, exchanged some emails, and they seemed normal. We visited them, and they took us into their home for two nights as if we were their long-lost relatives. They were incredibly hospitable, made us a temporary code in their electronic entry lock, and were in general fantastic. And, they did not expect a dime from us.
After we returned to Texas, we bought them Woot Wine as a surprise thank-you gift, and they sent a grateful email after receiving it.
This kind of behavior from your fellow human beings really lifts the spirit and encourages similar kindness from oneself. Although I am certain there are some nuts on sites like this, it always is and always will be "caveat emptor". But if you find a good host, you will forever remember the experience.
I think the grandparent's point is that no matter whose hardware you own, the manufacturer will recommend Windows XP, regardless of how well they support Linux.
You missed the point of the grandparent. The point is that Spamhaus shouldn't require X-Orig or any other X-* header, as those are not required by standards. It is irrelevant whether headers are added or removed during transit.
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If you meant your question sincerely, then I apologize for overreacting.
I read your question as being similar to those commercials that ask a rhetorical question designed to mislead the customer, such as: "What have you got to lose???!??" Realistically, the answer is always "money, time, and effort", and those who ask this question know that. They do not sincerely want to know the answer to the question -- they want to put the consumer in a certain mindset.
If you were unaware of the sad software situation of the Freerunner, then I apologize. Now you know. :-) Cheers.
Are the hardware specifications of a cell phone the only relevant thing? Absolutely not. Hardware defines the device's potential, but the device's quality is determined in a large part by its software. And Openmoko Freerunner's software stack is pretty sucky right now.
Right now Freerunner's battery life is something like 5 hours, and there are many other issues.
A great example of why all but a handful of people may prefer an iPhone to a Freerunner is this month's discussion of filesystem images on the mailing list. Apparently there's an FSO image ("make and receive calls. That's about it."), an ASU image ("qtopia apps don't start if I have the SIM in the phone"), a GTK image ("more or less what the phone came preloaded with"), a ScaredyCat image ("mostly works"). This should make it pretty clear that a Freerunner is not a consumer-ready device and is definitely NOT an iPhone equivalent.
A Freerunner should only be purchased by those who are fully prepared to deal with it as a hobby rather than as a consumer-ready phone/PDA. Posts like yours are misleading and do a disservice both to the consumer and to the Openmoko project.
Cheers.
This question was raised and discussed by Alexander Volokh in n Guilty Men.
Sounds dangerously like Perl.
Have you seen the source of the open source programs that you swear by?
In my experience, direct rendering is by far the most important factor in Google Earth's smoothness.
I have a Compaq nc6400 laptop with an Intel Core 2 Duo and an ATI Mobility X1300 video card. Without direct rendering, I am lucky to get three frames per second when Google Earth is zooming/moving. With direct rendering (through fglrx), the smoothness is incredible.
Same goes for glxgears: full-screen gets me 168 fps with direct rendering, and less than 3 fps without.
Using my Samsung SGH-T509 cell phone as a dial-up modem (over a USB cable), I typically experience latency of 700-1200ms. My cellular provider is T-Mobile, and I'm in Richardson, Texas. The speed is about 25 KB/s at best, though T-Mobile allows this luxury only for HTTP connections; the rest are throttled to about 4-6 KB/s.
This is a great device; thanks for linking to it. An 8.1-inch screen is awesome.
How rugged is it? Can it be dropped? Can it have continuous force applied to parts of it in a backpack?
According to Wikipedia, "As of May 3, 2007 Mobipocket is supported, making the mobipocket DRM content available on this platform."
You can buy anything with currency. The real test might be, does the government have an interest in protecting the integrity of Linden currency to the extent of US currency?
Alternately, can one buy US currency with Linden currency? However, this test would merely cause theft of Linden currency to be a crime with "real" damages; it would not require the storage and management of currency to be as secure as with banks.
Or take the even easier path and set up your firewall to block all packets from this application.
Easier? Do you mean block all outgoing HTTP traffic? If not, how do you plan to block packets from a specific set of PHP scripts?
I am very excited about the Neo1973, but as much as I would like to buy it, I won't for a simple reason: it supports only up to 2.5G. No 3G, no EDGE (2.75G). I think in today's age of ubiquitous wireless data FIC made a short-sighted decision, so I'll either wait for the first "open-source" phone with 3G support, or bite the bullet and buy yet another proprietary phone.
As many others have pointed out in this discussion, what you bought is the hardware and a license to the firmware/software. You bought these two with the knowledge that the manufacturer claims that you can only use these with AT&T. So, certainly, the iPhone is yours, and you can do with the hardware whatever you wish -- no one argues against that. However, this does not entitle you to anything more. If you try to use this phone with T-Mobile, you should not expect Apple to support you.
Lastly, please don't forget that in your examples -- preferring Aero to DRM, preferring web 2.0 to privacy -- you, the consumer, are making a choice of your own free will. Would you prefer the government to step in and "protect" you by forcing you to make certain choices?
You've never written any software in your life.
/not/ buy you bug-free software. Maybe $5,000,000,000 would.
$500 does
With your forward thinking, you should probably educate HP on what type of consumers to offer PCs to.
The rhetoric question remains: "Ask yourself how many people know how to do that...."
PDFTeX? About three.
My only experience with Couchsurfing has been excellent.
I'm a Texan who recently went to the Ohio LinuxFest 2006 with three others. We've found a great male couple on Couchsurfing, exchanged some emails, and they seemed normal. We visited them, and they took us into their home for two nights as if we were their long-lost relatives. They were incredibly hospitable, made us a temporary code in their electronic entry lock, and were in general fantastic. And, they did not expect a dime from us.
After we returned to Texas, we bought them Woot Wine as a surprise thank-you gift, and they sent a grateful email after receiving it.
This kind of behavior from your fellow human beings really lifts the spirit and encourages similar kindness from oneself. Although I am certain there are some nuts on sites like this, it always is and always will be "caveat emptor". But if you find a good host, you will forever remember the experience.
I think the grandparent's point is that no matter whose hardware you own, the manufacturer will recommend Windows XP, regardless of how well they support Linux.
Respect for the generally accpeted mannerisms of a nation/people is a good thing
You are rephrasing the grandparent's >.
You know what? You're right.
It is a tax dodge.
Wikipedia says, "This is done specifically to avoid taxation and is now considered a status symbol in the business world."
You missed the point of the grandparent. The point is that Spamhaus shouldn't require X-Orig or any other X-* header, as those are not required by standards. It is irrelevant whether headers are added or removed during transit.
Non-repudiation.