You miss the point. The phone is mine, and not the child's. To search the phone is to search my phone. The state does not have a right to do so with out a court order, as I am an adult and the schools in loco parentis powers most assuredly do not encompass me. Public schools are inherently governmental in nature, and thus an arm of the state, otherwise they would not have the ability to level taxes. Therefore, for a 'school' to search my phone without a court order is not only wrong, but illegal to boot.
Here's the real scoop on degrees. Currently about 29% of adults in America over 25 years of age hold a baccalaureate, but only 6% hold an advanced degree. Compare, and contrast this to the situation 45 years ago. "By 1960, 42 percent of males, 25 years old and over, still had completed no more than the eighth grade, but 40 percent had completed high school and 10 percent had completed 4 years of college"-- http://nces.ed.gov/NAAL/index.asp?file=OtherResour ces/ResourcePublications.asp&PageId=146
So today the percentage of adult Americans that hold a baccalaureate is about 29%, whereas in 1960 it was 10%. IOTW, today about 1 in 3 adult americans holds a baccalaureate, but in 1960 less than 1 in 10 did. (Note that the 1960 statistics were for men, whereas the figures for today are for both men and women.) It is reasonable to assume then that in 1960 the percentage of adult American that held a baccalaureate was comparable to the percentage of adult Americans that hold and advanced degree today.
As for H.S. diplomas given that only about 40% of adult males held H.S. diplomas in 1960 then it would be reasonable hold that the percentage of adult Americans that hold a baccalaureate today is at least roughly equivalent to the percentage of adult American that held H.S. diplomas in 1960.
Sounds like a situation that I ran across back in the 70s. A local 18 year old wrote a letter to the local school board, superintendent, and principal permitting him to grow his hair long. He argued that being 18 years old he was his own guardian, and therefore his guardian was always with him, thus the schools in loco parentis power was rendered moot with respect to him.
At this point I along with several former students of the this ISD had been working to get the dress code dropped for three years. Several school board members, along with the principal, and superintendent had made public statements, both verbal, and in print, as to the reasoning behind in loco parentis. The afore mentioned 18 year old was at this point able to hoist them on their own collective petard.
In the end he, the 18 year old, ran for the school board and won, and much merriment ensued over the next two years.
"No offense, but it looks like we have a problem with English and writing education in the grad-school level in the U.S. I'm willing to cut you some slack, however, since you do have a physics degree."
I'm a middle-aged nerd from Texas with a Master of Science in Physics.
I substitute taught a couple of years in several local ISDs while writing my thesis.
Here's the scoop. Few folk with that majored, or minored in Natural Sciences, or Mathematics, or who have earned advanced degrees said disciplines, are interested in the low pay and benefits that go with teaching in public high schools in Texas. They are still less interested in jumping through the bureaucratic hoops of the Texas Education Agency (TEA), and other red tape gauchos that currently inundate the public school systems of Texas.
There are jobs that are very much less frustrating, and are an infinitely better deal on both personal, and professional levels than teaching in public high schools. With a major, minor, or advanced degree in math, and the physical sciences a person has put forth a great deal of effort, and spent much time on his/her degree. Persons that have earned such degrees have little tolerance for the intellectual laziness, and a slacker attitude. The bottom line is that 'teaching' is not an attractive career for such a person.
This being the case the persons that end up teaching the hard sciences, and mathematics in H.S. are not the brights candles on the tree, or are making, well some times, a valiant effort to teach a subject outside their mastery.
I can recall at least a half-dozen times that I went into a Jr. High math class and went through a cold turkey, non-rehearsed lecture on some aspect of intro. to algebra turned around to see students with looks of amazement on their faces. The reason for the looks was that that 'got' what I was lecturing on. Their regular teacher had gone over the material the day before to their utter confusion. In each case their teacher did not have even a reasonable math background, but had taken the job because of pay incentives for teaching math. They were regurgitating the material from the textbook. They didn't understand the material themselves.
This is why there is such problems with math and science education at the H.S. level in the U.S.
There's an extra layer of inefficiency. If you heat your house by burning gas, you get nearly perfect efficiency: almost every joule of heat liberated by the chemical reaction goes into your house, with a relatively small amount of waste heat going up the chimney; modern boilers are very efficient indeed at getting every bit of heat they can.
The above statement assumes that you live in a place where heating is the main problem for indoor environmental control. I'd like to point out that for folks between the Tropics of Cancer & Capricorn or respectively just above, or below them heating is not the problem, cooling is.
Here in East Texas we're already running our air conditioners and it's only April. The reason for this is not that it's all that hot, but to dehumidify the air in our homes, offices, etc.. I've lived in Texas for all my 40 plus years. Normally we have more than ten days of 100 degree F. or greater being our daily high temperature. Late July, and all of August, plus the first half of September can produce some real scorchers. The use of high efficiency lighting, helps reduce the power consumption at home, office, etc. in two ways. First, it simply use less Joules to produce a given amount of lumens of light, second it reduces the amount of waste heat that the AC must deal with. So, you save on the cost per lumen of light, and you save on the cost of AC that is used to rid the indoor environment of the wast heat.
I've noticed that many of the post here on slashdot have a 'high latitude/left coast' bias on energy issues. Can't imagine why.
Indeed, I do understand the difference. As for a tort..."a wrongful act or an infringement of a right (other than under contract) leading to legal liability." Criminal law requires PBARD, whereas civil law requires PBPE. For a peace officer to issue make an arrest or issue a citation a criminal offence must be commeted, or there must be a violation of a civil ordinance. Parking in a stork slot is not in and of itself a criminal violation. The only sort of thing that a peace officer could charge a person with in such a situation is disorderly conduct, (fat chance of that sticking), or trepass. Any store etc. is going to be a place of public accommodation, thus any issue of trespass becomes more that a bit hazy. Additional complications enter into the issue. If it's two am and the parking lot is near empty with plenty of stork slots available then there is a substantial question of having causing any inconvenience, much less any harm. One might be tempted to argue that stores etc. can designate areas as being private, employes only etc. and going into such areas is trespass and have a completely valid point. However, a public parking slot is just that: public, and thus the issure of trepass is going to be more that a little bit problematic.
Considering the limited information they have to work with, and the fact that scientists' theories change daily, I'd much rather not bet my life on that.
Here's the scoop...
Our knowledge of the universe is imperfect. Therefore, all our theories, hypothesis, and speculations about the universe, and its contents, past, present, and especially future, are necessarily imperfect. Thus, our all our hopes, concerns, and fears about the future that are based in our knowledge of the universe may or may not change as we come to a better knowledge of the universe.
In the fifties an thought of 'extinction level events' was dismissed by the general scientific community. It wasn't till the mid-late seventies that the whole ELE thing got much exposure. There currently seems to be a trend in astronomical, and planetary science circles to moderate the whole asteroidal doom jag, such as has been hyped by that the Discovery Channel, et al..
Consider the whole Popular Science/Mechanics 'Flying Cars' phenomena. ("Flying cars are always ten years in the future.") What I'm seeing on a lot of the 'educational channels' is the hype of science relatedspeculation. There's much more entertainment than education on most of these channels. While I at it I'd like to point out that Scientific American is rapidly headed in this direction. I've seen way to much politics, and other silliness in SA in the past twenty years than what I'm comfortable with.
Finally, remember Just because it is not logical, does not mean that it is not true.
Handicapped Parking slots are statutorily recognized, "pregnant woman" slots are not. If special parking slots are statutorily recognized then a violation may be a criminal offense. Here in Texas such an offense is a misdemeanor. (TRANSPORTATION CODE SUBTITLE H. PARKING, TOWING, AND STORAGE OF VEHICLES CHAPTER 681. PRIVILEGED PARKING --Sec.A681.011)
In Texas there exists no statutory provision for maternity slots, therefore there is no means by which such slots can be legally enforced by a peace officer. In the eyes of the law such slots do not exist.
I'm sitting at home right now typing this post on a G5 PowerMac. Sitting next to me is my cousin's new Mac Mini. I'm waiting on a 20" Apple flat panel display before setting things up at her house.
Here's the deal: The Mac Mini will be in placed in my cousin's cupboard, with all the wiring hidden. The flatpanel will be attached to the wall to the side of the cupboard, and a small cantilevered ledge, that has already been built will serve as the home to the keyboard, and optical trackball.
This whole set up is very easily to get to, and is situated so that you almost must be able to view the flatpanel if you are in the kitchen. My cousin and her family will use this set up to do most of their online activities, e-mail, web surfing etc.. It will also serve as a bulletin board, family calender etc., and my cousin will have all her recipes stored on the beast. She'll be able to read them from anywhere in the kitchen with out her glasses. (Yes that means large print.) They will also have an nice speaker system in the kitchen and use iTunes for music. If they so choose, they can also view DVDs with their meals.
So then where is the desktop? The only 'top' is the small ledge for the keyboard, and trackball, and there's no way that I'd call that a desktop as there's no desk just the small ledge.
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Use a Commode-a-door 64...
If it's tampered with, it flushes the data.
STB
Bet you are a Goth...
Neither,
Catalpa Worms Rule!
STB
You are correct sir!
Folks mode the parent up as FUNNY!
STB
You miss the point. The phone is mine, and not the child's. To search the phone is to search my phone. The state does not have a right to do so with out a court order, as I am an adult and the schools in loco parentis powers most assuredly do not encompass me. Public schools are inherently governmental in nature, and thus an arm of the state, otherwise they would not have the ability to level taxes. Therefore, for a 'school' to search my phone without a court order is not only wrong, but illegal to boot.
STB
My child is just that mine, and most assuredly not the states.
You sir are nothing more than an anonymous clown and have no, I repeat no say what so ever in my child's life period.
STB
Here's the real scoop on degrees. Currently about 29% of adults in America over 25 years of age hold a baccalaureate, but only 6% hold an advanced degree. Compare, and contrast this to the situation 45 years ago. "By 1960, 42 percent of males, 25 years old and over, still had completed no more than the eighth grade, but 40 percent had completed high school and 10 percent had completed 4 years of college"-- http://nces.ed.gov/NAAL/index.asp?file=OtherResour ces/ResourcePublications.asp&PageId=146
So today the percentage of adult Americans that hold a baccalaureate is about 29%, whereas in 1960 it was 10%. IOTW, today about 1 in 3 adult americans holds a baccalaureate, but in 1960 less than 1 in 10 did. (Note that the 1960 statistics were for men, whereas the figures for today are for both men and women.) It is reasonable to assume then that in 1960 the percentage of adult American that held a baccalaureate was comparable to the percentage of adult Americans that hold and advanced degree today.
As for H.S. diplomas given that only about 40% of adult males held H.S. diplomas in 1960 then it would be reasonable hold that the percentage of adult Americans that hold a baccalaureate today is at least roughly equivalent to the percentage of adult American that held H.S. diplomas in 1960.
Sounds like a situation that I ran across back in the 70s. A local 18 year old wrote a letter to the local school board, superintendent, and principal permitting him to grow his hair long. He argued that being 18 years old he was his own guardian, and therefore his guardian was always with him, thus the schools in loco parentis power was rendered moot with respect to him.
At this point I along with several former students of the this ISD had been working to get the dress code dropped for three years. Several school board members, along with the principal, and superintendent had made public statements, both verbal, and in print, as to the reasoning behind in loco parentis. The afore mentioned 18 year old was at this point able to hoist them on their own collective petard.
In the end he, the 18 year old, ran for the school board and won, and much merriment ensued over the next two years.
STB
Beyond the rights of the student...
I gave my cell phone to my teen so that I could contact them when I need to.
It's my rights that I'm concerned with here.
While it is true that schools have in loco parentis powers those powers do NOT supersede my rights, authority, and responsibility as a parent.
"No offense, but it looks like we have a problem with English and writing education in the grad-school level in the U.S. I'm willing to cut you some slack, however, since you do have a physics degree."
Thank you Kate Turabian
I'm a middle-aged nerd from Texas with a Master of Science in Physics.
I substitute taught a couple of years in several local ISDs while writing my thesis.
Here's the scoop. Few folk with that majored, or minored in Natural Sciences, or Mathematics, or who have earned advanced degrees said disciplines, are interested in the low pay and benefits that go with teaching in public high schools in Texas. They are still less interested in jumping through the bureaucratic hoops of the Texas Education Agency (TEA), and other red tape gauchos that currently inundate the public school systems of Texas.
There are jobs that are very much less frustrating, and are an infinitely better deal on both personal, and professional levels than teaching in public high schools. With a major, minor, or advanced degree in math, and the physical sciences a person has put forth a great deal of effort, and spent much time on his/her degree. Persons that have earned such degrees have little tolerance for the intellectual laziness, and a slacker attitude. The bottom line is that 'teaching' is not an attractive career for such a person.
This being the case the persons that end up teaching the hard sciences, and mathematics in H.S. are not the brights candles on the tree, or are making, well some times, a valiant effort to teach a subject outside their mastery.
I can recall at least a half-dozen times that I went into a Jr. High math class and went through a cold turkey, non-rehearsed lecture on some aspect of intro. to algebra turned around to see students with looks of amazement on their faces. The reason for the looks was that that 'got' what I was lecturing on. Their regular teacher had gone over the material the day before to their utter confusion. In each case their teacher did not have even a reasonable math background, but had taken the job because of pay incentives for teaching math. They were regurgitating the material from the textbook. They didn't understand the material themselves.
This is why there is such problems with math and science education at the H.S. level in the U.S.
STB
(Sung to the tune of Prince's Raspberry Beret)
Shatner's scary toupee,
the kind that you find in a used rug store....
"Fear my Newton."
Fig, apple, or blueberry?
Bzzzzzt! Wrong Answer!
HR is not there to benefit you, they are there to protect their six, first and foremost.
The above statement assumes that you live in a place where heating is the main problem for indoor environmental control. I'd like to point out that for folks between the Tropics of Cancer & Capricorn or respectively just above, or below them heating is not the problem, cooling is.
Here in East Texas we're already running our air conditioners and it's only April. The reason for this is not that it's all that hot, but to dehumidify the air in our homes, offices, etc.. I've lived in Texas for all my 40 plus years. Normally we have more than ten days of 100 degree F. or greater being our daily high temperature. Late July, and all of August, plus the first half of September can produce some real scorchers. The use of high efficiency lighting, helps reduce the power consumption at home, office, etc. in two ways. First, it simply use less Joules to produce a given amount of lumens of light, second it reduces the amount of waste heat that the AC must deal with. So, you save on the cost per lumen of light, and you save on the cost of AC that is used to rid the indoor environment of the wast heat.
I've noticed that many of the post here on slashdot have a 'high latitude/left coast' bias on energy issues. Can't imagine why.
Ahhh! Humor! I like it.
Indeed, I do understand the difference. As for a tort..."a wrongful act or an infringement of a right (other than under contract) leading to legal liability." Criminal law requires PBARD, whereas civil law requires PBPE. For a peace officer to issue make an arrest or issue a citation a criminal offence must be commeted, or there must be a violation of a civil ordinance. Parking in a stork slot is not in and of itself a criminal violation. The only sort of thing that a peace officer could charge a person with in such a situation is disorderly conduct, (fat chance of that sticking), or trepass. Any store etc. is going to be a place of public accommodation, thus any issue of trespass becomes more that a bit hazy. Additional complications enter into the issue. If it's two am and the parking lot is near empty with plenty of stork slots available then there is a substantial question of having causing any inconvenience, much less any harm. One might be tempted to argue that stores etc. can designate areas as being private, employes only etc. and going into such areas is trespass and have a completely valid point. However, a public parking slot is just that: public, and thus the issure of trepass is going to be more that a little bit problematic.
Here's the scoop...
Our knowledge of the universe is imperfect. Therefore, all our theories, hypothesis, and speculations about the universe, and its contents, past, present, and especially future, are necessarily imperfect. Thus, our all our hopes, concerns, and fears about the future that are based in our knowledge of the universe may or may not change as we come to a better knowledge of the universe.
In the fifties an thought of 'extinction level events' was dismissed by the general scientific community. It wasn't till the mid-late seventies that the whole ELE thing got much exposure. There currently seems to be a trend in astronomical, and planetary science circles to moderate the whole asteroidal doom jag, such as has been hyped by that the Discovery Channel, et al..
Consider the whole Popular Science/Mechanics 'Flying Cars' phenomena. ("Flying cars are always ten years in the future.") What I'm seeing on a lot of the 'educational channels' is the hype of science related speculation. There's much more entertainment than education on most of these channels. While I at it I'd like to point out that Scientific American is rapidly headed in this direction. I've seen way to much politics, and other silliness in SA in the past twenty years than what I'm comfortable with.
Finally, remember Just because it is not logical, does not mean that it is not true.
That's Pi in the sky to you pilgrim...
Handicapped Parking slots are statutorily recognized, "pregnant woman" slots are not. If special parking slots are statutorily recognized then a violation may be a criminal offense. Here in Texas such an offense is a misdemeanor. (TRANSPORTATION CODE SUBTITLE H. PARKING, TOWING, AND STORAGE OF VEHICLES CHAPTER 681. PRIVILEGED PARKING --Sec.A681.011)
In Texas there exists no statutory provision for maternity slots, therefore there is no means by which such slots can be legally enforced by a peace officer. In the eyes of the law such slots do not exist.
You're right it's not fusion, it's the first step to the development of the Zed PM.
I'm sitting at home right now typing this post on a G5 PowerMac. Sitting next to me is my cousin's new Mac Mini. I'm waiting on a 20" Apple flat panel display before setting things up at her house. Here's the deal: The Mac Mini will be in placed in my cousin's cupboard, with all the wiring hidden. The flatpanel will be attached to the wall to the side of the cupboard, and a small cantilevered ledge, that has already been built will serve as the home to the keyboard, and optical trackball. This whole set up is very easily to get to, and is situated so that you almost must be able to view the flatpanel if you are in the kitchen. My cousin and her family will use this set up to do most of their online activities, e-mail, web surfing etc.. It will also serve as a bulletin board, family calender etc., and my cousin will have all her recipes stored on the beast. She'll be able to read them from anywhere in the kitchen with out her glasses. (Yes that means large print.) They will also have an nice speaker system in the kitchen and use iTunes for music. If they so choose, they can also view DVDs with their meals. So then where is the desktop? The only 'top' is the small ledge for the keyboard, and trackball, and there's no way that I'd call that a desktop as there's no desk just the small ledge.
Hottentots, carrot-tops,grammer-cops, and of course spambots.
Request ShortCircuit quote:
"I'm thinking that she is a virgin, or at least she use to be."