Well, now that's a good question and I'll try to explain what I believe is the simple answer to it. In the time period that this was taking place Sony owned the format lock, stock, and barrell. Ever see what happened to someone who tried to make game cartridges for an NES system when Nintendo was ready to take you to court for doing so without their approval? How about the people who own the patent for the Compact Disc format posturing about suing makers of copy protected CD's and preventing them from marking them as "Compact Discs" since they will not play in all compact disc players out there. Possibly Sony could not have prevented them from releasing movies on Beta but they could have made enough of a mess of it to change the cost of those tapes.
I think the point of this is that the people behind the VHS format were behind in the game at this time (Sony did have over a year with the market pretty much all to themselves before VHS machines started appearing) and they had no qualms at all about what content was on the tapes. It seems almost silly that Sony would have cared at the time too but they did and were prepared (or at least made a good enough show of being willing) to fight it.
"VHS" was the format that provided the least amount of friction for them so they went there.
It's not an Urban Legend. It's the simple truth and like I said, I remember it. Age does that for you.
The simple fact is that VCR's (of whatever format) were expensive and so were the tapes and they needed a "killer app". enter porn. Sony, which controlled the whole ball of wax where Beta was concerned wanted nothing to do with porn. No licensing, no interest, no nothing. They didn't ever want to see the word Betamax on the cover of a porn movie and it seemed like a good idea. Trouble was that porn was the killer app for video recorders.
Rebuffed by Sony the guys who wanted to sell porn tapes for people to view in their homes (visionaries that they were) turned to VHS and the rest is history. Sure after the fight was over Sony went ahead and let porn movies be released on their precious tapes but it was too late.
That's the way it happened from someone old enough to remember it.
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I'm so sorry about replying to this abortion of a thread but I can't help it. Like I said, I apologize to the community as a whole.
If it wasn't for the fact that this is pretty much the way the USA gets dealt with by the rest of the world. You're kidding but a ridiculously large number of people who would say the exact same thing mean it.
Devious but frighteningly common. Most of the people who get "slammed" from one long distance provider to another actually requested their service be changed in the form of one of these scams.
1. Red Barchetta from Moving Pictures
2. Subdivisions from Signals
3. Working Man from Rush
4. Closer to the Heart from Farewell to Kings
5. Tom Sawyer from Moving Pictures
Try something more challenging.
1) anarchist reactionary running-dog revisionist hindu muslim catholic creation/evolutionist rational romantic mystic cynical idealist minimal expressionist post-modern neo-symbolist
Ok, now I'm confused. Earlier in the day I posted a comment on the story about the OEone desktop page. I went to the site and read the article and noticed that they were calling the mascot for Penzilla "Tux" which sounds familiar and I pointed out that he didn't look a thing like the Tux I am familiar with.
I got moderated off topic. Now I take a different approach and find that I can't just state the obvious without being told to read the article. Obviously there will be no winning in this.
Though I don't think that the quotes you pointed to address the real problem which is that India could do countless other things to greater benefit than a moon mission.
I mean, come on this isn't some nation that's sitting fat on it's ass with more post 1950's clout and luxury than it needs looking for something to challenge it. This is a country that has serious problems regarding poverty and overpopulation. Going to the moon would be a wasteful stunt by a country that can't afford to waste anything.
I see your points but I think that "average slashdot reader" isn't going to see it that way.
Dual processors are sweet (I know I like both mine equally well) but not uncommon and certainly not as uncommon as they were a few years ago. Add to that the fact that it's been a little while since anyone in here got excited about a 1.25Ghz CPU.
DDR memory is also an improvement but then the majority of the people reading this aren't going to get excited about it's inclusion on the PowerMac. They've had it for some time over in the PC world. The faster system bus isn't going to impress them either for the same reasons.
Most of them already run a rock-hard Unix (ok, a lot of them) in the form of Linux.
As for the appearance I think in my case at least Apple is a victim of their own success. The Cube was amazing as were the original iMac and B&W PowerMac (as well as their successors in varying colors) and the new iMac is a beauty. This new slightly modifies Quicksilver has some improvements that aren't easy to miss but it's nothing really new to look at. It's more like putting a new front on the latest model car and calling it "redesigned". I know the changes are deeper than that but to the casual glance it's a new front panel on the old tower.
I am a Mac fan bigtime and I would jump right in and agree with you except that the new PowerMacs are pretty much a minor change with a little bump in speed that frankly doesn't do anything for me. The previous Quicksilver looked better (and damned glad I got one) in my opinion and the "big news" this time is the startling lack of any "big news".
Now had they popped out a G5 running at 1.5-2Ghz then they might merit more attention. Had they brought something truly different looking even then you might have seen it on the front page. As it stands it's not really much worth mentioning.
Get used to the way the world works. I bought a dual 1Gig a couple of months back. Maybe I should try and force them to take it back because I don't want to pay full price for 10.2 huh? Or maybe I can just complain that I'm no longer on the top end and they'll make an exception in my case.
I mean, that's what Apple is there for right? To make you as an indivual feel special.
Or maybe I should remember that I've got a buddy with a dual G4450 who's still getting great performance out of his machine and calm down. Your 9 ain't going to become crap overnight pal.
...That the movie was at one time supposed to be filmed using both technologies at the same time in some fashion. I remember reading early on that this idea was dropped real quickly once they started to figure up what it would take and what it would cost to do something like that. I mean, the project itself is ambitous enough as it is. Why add trying to do this to the problems they already faced.
Anyway I've been following the production of this thing for years and I don't believe this particular idea ever got out of the "idea" phase.
Yes it is stealing. You simply don't understand the nature of what you are doing or are choosing to ignore it's finer points. Your still a thief though if you do it.
And if you think getting a drug dealer addicted to heroin and finding that it scratches that itch to see things right with the world is nothing more than someones "abberant sense of justice" at work Fuck you again.
All of the examples you mentioned are admittedly illegal but not one of them doesn't fit the crime and every single one of them should be enacted into law. You want to know why this world is as completely screwed up as it is? Look in the mirror you nutless wonder.
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huh?
How do you stop someone from making Beta tapes?
Well, now that's a good question and I'll try to explain what I believe is the simple answer to it. In the time period that this was taking place Sony owned the format lock, stock, and barrell. Ever see what happened to someone who tried to make game cartridges for an NES system when Nintendo was ready to take you to court for doing so without their approval? How about the people who own the patent for the Compact Disc format posturing about suing makers of copy protected CD's and preventing them from marking them as "Compact Discs" since they will not play in all compact disc players out there. Possibly Sony could not have prevented them from releasing movies on Beta but they could have made enough of a mess of it to change the cost of those tapes.
I think the point of this is that the people behind the VHS format were behind in the game at this time (Sony did have over a year with the market pretty much all to themselves before VHS machines started appearing) and they had no qualms at all about what content was on the tapes. It seems almost silly that Sony would have cared at the time too but they did and were prepared (or at least made a good enough show of being willing) to fight it.
"VHS" was the format that provided the least amount of friction for them so they went there.
It's not an Urban Legend. It's the simple truth and like I said, I remember it. Age does that for you.
The simple fact is that VCR's (of whatever format) were expensive and so were the tapes and they needed a "killer app". enter porn. Sony, which controlled the whole ball of wax where Beta was concerned wanted nothing to do with porn. No licensing, no interest, no nothing. They didn't ever want to see the word Betamax on the cover of a porn movie and it seemed like a good idea. Trouble was that porn was the killer app for video recorders.
Rebuffed by Sony the guys who wanted to sell porn tapes for people to view in their homes (visionaries that they were) turned to VHS and the rest is history. Sure after the fight was over Sony went ahead and let porn movies be released on their precious tapes but it was too late.
That's the way it happened from someone old enough to remember it.
I'm so sorry about replying to this abortion of a thread but I can't help it. Like I said, I apologize to the community as a whole.
Ok, I've got to ask. His grandma has a dick?
If it wasn't for the fact that this is pretty much the way the USA gets dealt with by the rest of the world. You're kidding but a ridiculously large number of people who would say the exact same thing mean it.
He's Arnold, Arnold, Arnold Rimmer
Without him life would be much grimmer..
Couldn't help it, it just popped in there when I saw the sig.
BUT... they are one of only two nations I can think of off the top of my head that might have a chance of building that pyramid!
Well, ok, that was stupid but I'm looking at my recent posts and it sounded funny, for a second.
Devious but frighteningly common. Most of the people who get "slammed" from one long distance provider to another actually requested their service be changed in the form of one of these scams.
1. Red Barchetta from Moving Pictures
2. Subdivisions from Signals
3. Working Man from Rush
4. Closer to the Heart from Farewell to Kings
5. Tom Sawyer from Moving Pictures
Try something more challenging.
1) anarchist reactionary running-dog revisionist
hindu muslim catholic creation/evolutionist
rational romantic mystic cynical idealist
minimal expressionist post-modern neo-symbolist
Ok, now I'm confused. Earlier in the day I posted a comment on the story about the OEone desktop page. I went to the site and read the article and noticed that they were calling the mascot for Penzilla "Tux" which sounds familiar and I pointed out that he didn't look a thing like the Tux I am familiar with.
I got moderated off topic. Now I take a different approach and find that I can't just state the obvious without being told to read the article. Obviously there will be no winning in this.
Though I don't think that the quotes you pointed to address the real problem which is that India could do countless other things to greater benefit than a moon mission.
Simple, there are more of them and many of them vote.
I mean, come on this isn't some nation that's sitting fat on it's ass with more post 1950's clout and luxury than it needs looking for something to challenge it. This is a country that has serious problems regarding poverty and overpopulation. Going to the moon would be a wasteful stunt by a country that can't afford to waste anything.
I see your points but I think that "average slashdot reader" isn't going to see it that way.
Dual processors are sweet (I know I like both mine equally well) but not uncommon and certainly not as uncommon as they were a few years ago. Add to that the fact that it's been a little while since anyone in here got excited about a 1.25Ghz CPU.
DDR memory is also an improvement but then the majority of the people reading this aren't going to get excited about it's inclusion on the PowerMac. They've had it for some time over in the PC world. The faster system bus isn't going to impress them either for the same reasons.
Most of them already run a rock-hard Unix (ok, a lot of them) in the form of Linux.
As for the appearance I think in my case at least Apple is a victim of their own success. The Cube was amazing as were the original iMac and B&W PowerMac (as well as their successors in varying colors) and the new iMac is a beauty. This new slightly modifies Quicksilver has some improvements that aren't easy to miss but it's nothing really new to look at. It's more like putting a new front on the latest model car and calling it "redesigned". I know the changes are deeper than that but to the casual glance it's a new front panel on the old tower.
Seriously Folks this is just bull. So now I'm going to be penalized for actually reading the story and pointing something out?
Do the moderators actually read the story?
I dropped more than a few in my original post. In fact when I re-read it I thought about the G4 4450 myself. Would like to see that one myself.
Dual G4 4.45Ghz processors...Mmmmmmmm.
Great idea but then you need to add that one final touch. Do it all in a Virtual PC session in OSX.
I am a Mac fan bigtime and I would jump right in and agree with you except that the new PowerMacs are pretty much a minor change with a little bump in speed that frankly doesn't do anything for me. The previous Quicksilver looked better (and damned glad I got one) in my opinion and the "big news" this time is the startling lack of any "big news".
Now had they popped out a G5 running at 1.5-2Ghz then they might merit more attention. Had they brought something truly different looking even then you might have seen it on the front page. As it stands it's not really much worth mentioning.
Get used to the way the world works. I bought a dual 1Gig a couple of months back. Maybe I should try and force them to take it back because I don't want to pay full price for 10.2 huh? Or maybe I can just complain that I'm no longer on the top end and they'll make an exception in my case.
I mean, that's what Apple is there for right? To make you as an indivual feel special.
Or maybe I should remember that I've got a buddy with a dual G4450 who's still getting great performance out of his machine and calm down. Your 9 ain't going to become crap overnight pal.
That didn't look like Tux to me.
Not "shooted and send back to earth"!
It's "Shooted and sending back to urth"!
Anyway I've been following the production of this thing for years and I don't believe this particular idea ever got out of the "idea" phase.
Since most of us don't have the subscription I deduce that the majority of replies will come from AC's and be composed of nonsense.
Yes it is stealing. You simply don't understand the nature of what you are doing or are choosing to ignore it's finer points. Your still a thief though if you do it.
Don't I have the right to go get the X rated Snow White?
Couldn't resist.
Can't you tell when someone is joking?
And if you think getting a drug dealer addicted to heroin and finding that it scratches that itch to see things right with the world is nothing more than someones "abberant sense of justice" at work Fuck you again.
All of the examples you mentioned are admittedly illegal but not one of them doesn't fit the crime and every single one of them should be enacted into law. You want to know why this world is as completely screwed up as it is? Look in the mirror you nutless wonder.