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A Beginner's Guide to the Dance Dance Phenomena

An anonymous reader writes "I just saw a rather interesting article over at LANParty.com about breaking into the world of Dance Dance Revolution. The article has a humourous story about going from DDR mocker to DDR fanatic thanks to a seven-year-old kid. Also, it has reviews of some home DDR equipment for those too timid to play in public. The article is written from a beginner's perspective, and has some good resources for newbies! If you've ever thought of hopping up and 'busting a move', be sure to check it out."

284 comments

  1. One word by JudgeFurious · · Score: 1

    huh?

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  2. Interesting. by dopefish3 · · Score: 1

    Though I have never played this game, I think it's still pretty addicting. I mean to go and try it someday, but fear that I might get hooked. It's like ...exercise!

    1. Re:Interesting. by cioxx · · Score: 1

      DDR is a rip off from the movie Big.

      Remember the part where Tom Hanks jumps on the piano keys in the toy store to make music? It's funny how after 13 years, they realize there is a market for such an 'invention'.

      Althought I think jumping on piano keys is much more fun than jumping on stupid arrows.

    2. Re:Interesting. by cioxx · · Score: 0, Flamebait
      Wow. Calm down kid. Go ask your deadbeat dad for $10 bucks so you can go blow it on DDR making an ass out of yourself.

      Idiot flamer.


      if the chance were to arise I would savor kicking you in the balls


      I'll take you up on that offer. Email me for details. Let's see if you're man enough to keep your word. Info in profile. Unless you're some 27 year old furry loner and want to hide behind your monitor - bring it.
  3. mock by eyeareque · · Score: 0

    I will always mock DDR. Cisco's DDR and the video game DDR are both a waste of time.

    bleh

    1. Re:mock by Binome · · Score: 1

      Yeah. We should all spend our time doing something productive. Like posting on Slashdot.

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    2. Re:mock by Chemical+Serenity · · Score: 1

      The video game DDR, though, provides ample opportunity to sit back and alternately laugh your ass off (when 280 lbs geekfreaks attempt dancing the first time) or smile appreciatively (when tasty looking wimminz attempt the same).

      I think the choice is pretty clear. :D

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  4. I truly despise this god awful game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is the worst fad ranking right next to pokemon.

  5. Haha.... by OrangeHairMan · · Score: 1

    I think this would be more fitting under the "Laugh, it's funny" category. ;)

  6. I'm probably addicted. by Renraku · · Score: 5, Insightful

    DDR introduced me to social situations. I mean, before DDR, I never really mingled with people at large social gatherings. But DDR has made me a much more social person, forcing you to either deal with people or play at home. Not to mention the health benefits of being able to pass Max300 on maniac (I did that once, it hurt).

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    1. Re:I'm probably addicted. by Tackhead · · Score: 2, Funny
      > DDR introduced me to social situations. I mean, before DDR, I never really mingled with people at large social gatherings. But DDR has made me a much more social person, forcing you to either deal with people or play at home.

      Me too. Before there was DDR, there was SDRAM. People laughed at me at LAN parties as they fragged my bog-slow-framerate azz. I couldn't deal with people with such a lame system.

      So I bought an RDRAM system, and the people at LAN parties poured Bawlz into my power supply and shorted it out. Said I deserved it for supporting the lawyers at Rambus. So I got a new power supply, but I had to play from home. (and despite decent frame rates, with the lag on a 56k connection, everyone still fragged my azz.)

      Then I got a DDR system in a kickass aluminum case! Wow! My framerates are up, and I'm no longer embarassed to show up at the LAN party! I can deal with people, and I don't have to play at home anymore! w00t! I 0wn!

      (Not to mention the health benefits of being able to haul my watercooled rig with fishtank reservoir to the party. I did that once up ten flights of stairs, it hurt.)

  7. Exercise couldn't be more fun. by Broadband · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I just got hooked to this new addiction back in May and I can safely say I've got more exercise over the past few months then i'd get in an entire year!

    1. Re:Exercise couldn't be more fun. by Gimpy-Joe · · Score: 1

      i gree I've been playing for just a few months myself and didn't realize it was so much exercise till i started getting good. now i'm in better shape than i would have been (not to mention wowing all my non DDR friends)

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    2. Re:Exercise couldn't be more fun. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This doesn't say much.
      You need to get off the couch more.

    3. Re:Exercise couldn't be more fun. by HoldenCaulfield · · Score: 2, Interesting

      On the exercise bit, check out this school that uses the DDR machines for gym class . . .

    4. Re:Exercise couldn't be more fun. by SocietyoftheFist · · Score: 1

      you obviously haven't had sex for prolonged periods...

  8. Dude! by TheKubrix · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    That whole article (and the pic of that guy) was so gay it crashed my browser.....and I JUST upgraded Mozilla!

  9. Whoa, I live under a rock. by Sebastopol · · Score: 2

    I had no idea what this was until I read several of the articles. People actually dance at arcades now? Man, I _AM_ old, I never heard of this.

    *sigh*

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    1. Re:Whoa, I live under a rock. by Shadow99_1 · · Score: 2

      COuld be worse... I'm only 24 & I've never seen this... I've heard of the game, but uh... dancing at arcades? that's a new one... Maybe cuz all the arcades locally have dried up & blown away... sigh... It's been rather sad really...

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    2. Re:Whoa, I live under a rock. by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 4, Informative

      want to see what it looks like in live action:

      its a java launch - so go here:

      www.ehowa.com
      click on enter
      click on downloads at top
      open "dancewhiteboy.wmv" to see a really good
      white kid DDRing

      FUNNNY stuff

    3. Re:Whoa, I live under a rock. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People also play the Guitar, Keyboard and Drums at the arcade now too (Guitar Freaks, KeyboardMania, DrumMania) :)

    4. Re:Whoa, I live under a rock. by cioxx · · Score: 1

      I'm also 24 and casually heard many people refer to DDR, and never really understood what it was. Recently I've seen a clip of some _Grown Up_ people dancing in an arcade to some substandard techno music and was blown away by the stupidity of it.

      I too agree, this is a sad development.

    5. Re:Whoa, I live under a rock. by Sebastopol · · Score: 1

      "sad really..."

      well, i wouldn't call it 'sad', even though i haven't seen it. i mean, it's nonviolent, right? and it's creative, ja? and like 50-70% of kids are fat and underexercised, correct?

      just think about today -- how many guys are terrified to dance? 40 years ago all guys danced, it was cool (and i'm not referring to the billy joel song, i'm thinking more west-side story).

      the more i think about it, this kind of physical activity and nonviolent competition sounds like a good thing...

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    6. Re:Whoa, I live under a rock. by Skavookie · · Score: 1

      I think Shadow99_1 was describing not DDR but the lack of local arcades in his/her area.

    7. Re:Whoa, I live under a rock. by Tetsujin28 · · Score: 1


      I think the "sad" thing he's talking about is the arcades going away, not DDR.

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    8. Re:Whoa, I live under a rock. by G-funk · · Score: 2

      "sad really..."

      well, i wouldn't call it 'sad', even though i haven't seen it. i mean, it's nonviolent, right? and it's creative, ja? and like 50-70% of kids are fat and underexercised, correct?


      Perhaps you should brush up on your comprehension skills? He was lamenting the loss of the local video game arcade, something I'm sure most of us here do fairly often.

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    9. Re:Whoa, I live under a rock. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. You do live under a rock. *grin*

      Actually, I didn't know it was called DDR. I learned it through, well, more or less geekish channels. About 5 years ago or so, a magazine article (Popular Science or Wired or something) covered a company that was releasing the tech and the exposure it was getting in Japan. I forgot about it.

      Then there's this ad that's running...not sure if it's on CNBC (background TV during the day) or Cartoon Network (afternoon Toonami) that shows a fellow on one of these machines. Oddly enough, it was on my "to do" list to see if there was something on the PC, because I don't want dance lessons (I like having a very flexible schedule) right now....so I was happy to see the parent story on /. . I don't dance, but I'd like to, and I'd rather get some minor confidence before lessons or trying it in public.

    10. Re:Whoa, I live under a rock. by byran+lei · · Score: 0

      >I'm also 24 and casually heard many people refer to DDR, and never
      >really understood what it was. Recently I've seen a clip of some
      >_Grown Up_ people dancing in an arcade to some substandard techno
      >music and was blown away by the stupidity of it.
      >I too agree, this is a sad development.
      >
      >
      No what's really sad are you PC Gaming FPS Freaks. Get a Life. Better yet, Get a Date and take her to one of these arcades that have DDR.

    11. Re:Whoa, I live under a rock. by Renderer+of+Evil · · Score: 1
      Get a Date and take her to one of these arcades that have DDR.

      No offense virtual e-friend, but I usually take out my date to places where you can drink alcohol and be surrounded by people who grew out of the arcade life back in late 80's.

      Nice try though ;)

    12. Re:Whoa, I live under a rock. by Gutzalpus · · Score: 1

      Not bad for a white guy, but there are some asian kids at my local arcade that put this guy to shame. There's some mode you can select where one player has to dance across both sets of pads, and it's just insane...

    13. Re:Whoa, I live under a rock. by jedinite · · Score: 2
      want to see what it looks like in live action:
      Here is the direct link:
      http://downloads.ehowa.com/~dancewhiteboy.wmv
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    14. Re:Whoa, I live under a rock. by ShadeEagle · · Score: 1

      I've played drunken DDR at the bar... until they moved the machine to a different location ;-(

    15. Re:Whoa, I live under a rock. by Sebastopol · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you should brush up on your comprehension skills? ...and perhaps you should suck my dick.

      (I always wanted to do that on /., no offense.)

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  10. What the article doesn't mention ... by slagdogg · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is that DDR is also a great way to meet the neighbors that live below you ... :)

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    1. Re:What the article doesn't mention ... by BigOTeeToe · · Score: 5, Funny

      You're forgetting that most players live in their parents' basement...

    2. Re:What the article doesn't mention ... by zapfie · · Score: 3

      Is that DDR is also a great way to meet the neighbors that live below you ... :)

      Amen. In our apartment, it got to the point where the people below us would stand on a chair and bang the ceiling as hard as they could to get us to stop. I don't know why they were so upset, it was only 2am... um, *cough*. I'm not addicted, really.

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    3. Re:What the article doesn't mention ... by dacetone · · Score: 1

      Yeah...right after I got the dance pads, I danced for a half-hour, my boyfriend danced for a half-hour, and then the downstairs neighbors came up wondering WTF we were doing :{ He tried to explain, but yuppies don't seem to get it...

      But I just moved to a house :-D So I can dance the night away :-D

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  11. Sorry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At least in the introduction I couldn't find a short explanation what DDR is for non-insiders. Could someone of you please introducte as "outsiders"? Thanks :-)

  12. I've done it. by yzquxnet · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've done it. I thought is was stupid. But, I guess you have to like that sort of thing. Generally speaking I don't move my feet around like that unless I'm falling down the stairs.

    1. Re:I've done it. by KILNA · · Score: 1

      yzquxnet is protected.
      yzquxnet has gone down the stairs.

      If you can't do it shamelessly, then why do it at all?

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    2. Re:I've done it. by Rayonic · · Score: 2

      > I've done it. I thought is was stupid.

      Translation: I tried it once and was terrible at it.

    3. Re:I've done it. by bwoodring · · Score: 1

      Of course, because it simply isn't possible that someone could honestly not like DDR is it? What a fucking prick.

  13. Try it on your PC - StepMania! by chrisdanford · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I work on an open-source DDR/Pump simulator called StepMania. It's almost feature identical to the DDR MAX/MAX2 and has a ton of customizable features.

    Download StepMania, download some songs, and at play it with a keyboard. Slowly you'll start tapping your toes. Then, buy some pads, some USB convertors, and practice up. You'll be ready to wow everyone at the arcade!

    1. Re:Try it on your PC - StepMania! by chrisdanford · · Score: 1

      Oh my. How silly of me to forget the links!

      http://www.stepmania.com
      http://sourceforge.net /projects/stepmania/

      Songs for download:
      http://www.ddrmaniax.net/ddrmaniax/
      ht tp://www.ddrei.com/

    2. Re:Try it on your PC - StepMania! by moonbender · · Score: 2

      Eh, how about promoting your project when you mention it? StepMania Downloading it now. :P

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    3. Re:Try it on your PC - StepMania! by prizog · · Score: 4, Informative

      For non-Windows users, try PyDDR.

    4. Re:Try it on your PC - StepMania! by zapfie · · Score: 2

      I know it's a competing project, but it would only be fair for me to mention Dance with Intensity as well.

      Both StepMania and DWI are great- I have found DWI tries to be a more 'authentic' simulator (and does well at that), while StepMania adds new modes and features not found in DDR (Drunk mode, anyone? :)

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    5. Re:Try it on your PC - StepMania! by ealar+dlanvuli · · Score: 2

      tag for home

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    6. Re:Try it on your PC - StepMania! by billatq · · Score: 1

      ..buy some pads, some USB convertors, and practice up..

      Hey! Don't forget that some USB converters don't work properly with DDR simulators because they handle the axes as one instead of as buttons, thus preventing most play. Of course, you can always build the parallel port interface and get the drivers for the pad here. I suggest the NTPAD XP, regardless of whether or not you have Windows 2000 or XP. If you're still using 9x, you'll want to get the directpadpro 5.0 drivers, though be aware that they take some tweaking.
    7. Re:Try it on your PC - StepMania! by DeionXxX · · Score: 1

      Or you can do what I did... cut up the pad in the middle with 2 perpendicular cuts (so you can see what traces go to what arrows) then unscrew the piece where the cable goes into the pad. Then figure out what are all the traces are going... then reconnect the arrows to the places where the buttons were connected, and connect the buttons to the axes.

      Then go in your program whether it be DDR for PC, DWI or whatever... reconfigure your buttons.

      Thats it! It worked for me... hopefully it works for someone else.

      -- DeionXxX

    8. Re:Try it on your PC - StepMania! by Imperial+Tacohead · · Score: 2

      That's really interesting. One obvious workaround is to actually buy DDR for PC -- they've started selling it at Fry's and Outpost.com (it's an exclusive offer, or something). The only way to play is with a USB converter, and apparently they've coded a fix directly into the game.

    9. Re:Try it on your PC - StepMania! by chrisdanford · · Score: 1

      Actually, there are quite a few PSX->USB convertors that will work without modding your pad. These convertors map the PSX directional input to USB buttons, so you don't have the L+R or U+D axes problem.

      I know these work from experience
      I hear these work
      And I hear these work too

  14. Screw DDR... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Samba de Amigo on Dreamcast is waaaaay better.

  15. Re:YOU, SIR, HAVE STOLEN MY FP. NOW TONGUE MY ANU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Haha! You're a bit late for a fp, right? Sucker.

  16. Electrified fooling machine by evil_roy · · Score: 1

    This is really news for nerds. I can't see that it matters though.

  17. relax, this is a good thing...DDR may get you laid by rob-fu · · Score: 1

    Bringing DDR to the home is a huge step I think. It could be a more exciting and entertaining party game than say, Twister.

    On second thought, I don't know if you can play naked DDR and have the same amount of fun as you would naked Twister.

    At least if DDR makes it into the home, maybe the other 98% in here can get girls over to their houses/apartments (without any form of trickery or force). Everytime I see that game, there's always girls playing it. Then again, I don't think I've ever seen any guys playing it.

  18. DDR by AmbientNightmare · · Score: 3, Interesting

    DDR is a very fun game, although it does take a little practice to get used to. For anyone interested, you can usually get 2 dancemats and the first US version for around $40-$60 dollars, and it's well worth it. And, once you start getting good, you'll enjoy it a lot more. Also, girls LOVE playing this game, I wish I could convey how often I have ladies over to "dance" with me. Highly recommended for excersise, improving pedal-dexterity, and impressing ladies who think 6'2" 200lb men can't dance.

    1. Re:DDR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If that is all the 'dancing' you are doing, then
      you're right -- a 6'2" 200lb man can't dance.

    2. Re:DDR by AmbientNightmare · · Score: 1

      um..yeah...I forgot to say where to get said mats and game at that price...the answer is, of course, EBAY, and they are brandnew and easy to find. KevinK8 is one of the leading sellers of DDR stuff, and I got my stuff through him. Very good experience.

    3. Re:DDR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're a martial artist there's plenty you can pick up and learn from playing DDR creatively. Balance, flexibility, and stability to just name them generally.

      Just because you're all stuck up and think that your brazilian hwa jeet rang kido style is the ultimate doesn't mean you can't do other things or use some conditioning.

    4. Re:DDR by PsychoKick · · Score: 1

      Try "Martial Beat" then, also by Konami.

    5. Re:DDR by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 2

      right - but I can get those same things through martial arts - without flailing about in public on some machine.

      I'm not stuck up about it though. I know my troll could kick your troll's ass any day!

    6. Re:DDR by PongStroid · · Score: 1


      Actually, you aren't dancing. You're playing Simon with your feet.

      (It's a joke, son.)

    7. Re:DDR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or get a $10 pad from wallmart. the $10 psx->usb adaptor. And Stepmania (stepmania.com)

  19. C'mon you trolls by TheKubrix · · Score: 1

    DDR is news for nerds, and YES it does matter. :\

    1. Re:C'mon you trolls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bullshit. Who gives a rats ass.

    2. Re:C'mon you trolls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, this is news for losers, and doesn't matter.

    3. Re:C'mon you trolls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a moron.

      DDR fits just perfect between Oracle 9i and my linux kernel documentation. /sarcasm

  20. it's a conspiracy by Raiford · · Score: 1
    It's the most ridiculous looking game you will ever see. However it it the only excercise my step kids bother to get. I it keeps them away from the soda pop and Reese's cups then it's fine by me. It has become somewhat of a cult thing. There are clubs in the schools that have DDR as a focus. I guess we are really a fadish society and that will never change.

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    1. Re:it's a conspiracy by betis70 · · Score: 1

      >>I guess we are really a fadish society and that will never change.

      Ture, but I think this fad is probably better for people than some others (Cabbage Patch Kids come to mind).

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    2. Re:it's a conspiracy by m3000 · · Score: 1

      If you actually played it, I think you'd see why it's so popular. It may be a fad, but at least it's one for a reason and not because Madison Ave said so.

  21. kill those f*cking adverts!! by cliveholloway · · Score: 1, Offtopic
    I couldn't read the article because there was this strobe light going off in the middle of the page.

    Going back, I see it must be on rotation coz it changed, but that original ad made the page unreadable. Doesn't anybody have quality control on ads these days?

    .02

    cLive ;-)

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    1. Re:kill those f*cking adverts!! by b1t+r0t · · Score: 1, Offtopic
      When I look at it, I see a @#%$! puzzle piece in the ad box, indicating yet again that I was right to disable Flash unless and until there's a specific page I want to view with it.

      Just drag the evil Flash plug-in out of your plug-ins directory until you need it. Then drag it back in. Usually all it takes is a page reload for Mozilla to notice that it's back.

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    2. Re:kill those f*cking adverts!! by Quixote · · Score: 2

      In the Mozilla 1.1 thread, someone pointed out the Zap Embed bookmarklets. I put 'Zap Embeds' into my toolbar in Moz1.0, and it is a lifesaver (or an "eyesaver")! It works great!! Check it out, you won't regret it. Hit "Zap Embeds" in the toolbar the moment you come across an annoying flash advert, and voila! That critter is nuked!

    3. Re:kill those f*cking adverts!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.kazaalite.com/

      download and install the hosts file.

      Kills about 80% of ads and popup adds out there

      Although the "this page can not be found" display litering your page can be anoying at times =P

  22. Re:DDR IS FOR SCIENCE ACADEMY OF SOUTH TEXAS FAGS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You shouldn't. Please contact one of the addresses mentioned at http://www.befrienders.org/ immediately. Thanks and God Bless You ;-)

  23. The best DDR review you'll ever read.... by Rahga · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's usually at http://sardius.fefea.org/, but since the site is down, click my mirror of it here: http://www.rahga.com/fun/konamix/

    For what it's worth, Michael Jackson is involved.... and trust me, it blows every other DDR review out of the water. :)

    1. Re:The best DDR review you'll ever read.... by Vegeta99 · · Score: 1

      What I dont get is the gifs of michael dancing next to the green penis thruster machine. WTF?!

    2. Re:The best DDR review you'll ever read.... by Rahga · · Score: 2

      Sega probably used a handful of their Sonic Team people on the Moonwalker arcade... both features bad guys in big machines taking on quick-footed heroes.

      Just a guess :) .

    3. Re:The best DDR review you'll ever read.... by Tackhead · · Score: 2
      > Sega probably used a handful of their Sonic Team people on the Moonwalker arcade... both features bad guys in big machines taking on quick-footed heroes.

      I dunno. Look at the screenshots. Fucking creepy. Moonwalker has to be a product of Michael Jackson's deranged imagination.

      I mean, c'mon. Your weapons are magic sprinkles and crotch-grabs? And you run around looking for little kids tied up? And there's giant robots with five-foot metal cocks?

      Under "God, I love MAME" - 10 Dec 2000", and I quote...

      No, I'm not, repeat, not, kidding. Not even about the "children in bondage" part - the entire point of the game is that you go touch these little urchins, who are hogtied and struggling and calling your (well, Michael's) name.

      I know those of you that never saw this game in real life probably think I'm making this shit up. You'd definitely think I was making it all up if I told you that I had undoctored game footage of Michael in an alleyway, first deftly avoiding getting assaulted with a five-foot metal cock, then immediately returning the favor to a little boy huddled up against a streetlight...

      Sonic, my ass. That game has Michael Jackson written all over it, man.

  24. It seems really hard at first... by tral · · Score: 1

    until you realize you just need to go with the beat.

  25. Heh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's amazing that huge tubs of flesh can sweat so much while pretending to dance, yet not lose weight.

    No, seriously - DDR is Japan's revenge for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

  26. DDR PHASE II by ArcSecond · · Score: 4, Funny

    Around these parts (Vancouver, Canada), the only people that play DDR are asian kids. It looks like fun, in the way that Karaoke is fun. (Which in my dictionary, is "marginally".)

    The next step is for DDR to infect the minds of white folks. I expect to see long rows of these machines bringing in the line-dancing crowd in the very near future.

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    1. Re:DDR PHASE II by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just attach laser pointer style guns and the problem is solved. (Think of old westerns....)

    2. Re:DDR PHASE II by ces · · Score: 1

      Around these parts (Vancouver, Canada), the only people that play DDR are asian kids. It looks like fun, in the way that Karaoke is fun. (Which in my dictionary, is "marginally".)

      The next step is for DDR to infect the minds of white folks. I expect to see long rows of these machines bringing in the line-dancing crowd in the very near future.


      Karaoke IS fun, even more so when you get a friend liquored up enough to make an ass of themselves in front of the whole crowd.

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    3. Re:DDR PHASE II by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Karaoke and DDR are both fun because of the public embarassment. If you don't appreciate that part of it, you probably wouldn't enjoy either of those to the fullest.
      The point of DDR isn't your grade or whatever, it's about putting on a Hawaian shirt and flipping yourself over the safety bar at the closest pair of breasts.
      Same thing with karaoke. Don't sing your favorite song, sing one you never heard before, or Ziggy Stardust. They both work.
      Dignity just holds you back. I see a bright future of embarrasment in Line Dance Revolution. I look forward to my first oppourtunity to slide-tackling a dancing Texan.

    4. Re:DDR PHASE II by killmenow · · Score: 1

      I find karaoke to be much more fun when you're the one liquored up.

    5. Re:DDR PHASE II by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what I thought, till I went to barcode in times square in Manhattan. Huge thug-like beings, who look like they're ready to rob and beat you, and leave you for dead, were playing DDR 6th mix in Maniac mode. It was the weirdest thing, but man... they were good!

    6. Re:DDR PHASE II by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "Texans don't line-dance. They two-step."

      --Real Texan

  27. Beyond DDR by frohike · · Score: 4, Informative

    We (Cryptic Allusion) are also developing a Dreamcast game with the freely available homebrew tools to go beyond the basic get-as-many-steps-right-as-you-can of DDR to something much closer to Puyo Puyo or Puzzle Fighter. Here's the link:

    Feet of Fury

    There's also Dance With Intensity that someone developed to play DDR songs on your PC, assuming you can track down the step files and MP3s/OGGs.

  28. Troll Troll Revoloution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trolls -> |=====D (0) <- Slashdot

    Im a troll. This is a revolution.
    So you can limit me to 10 times a day, thats bullshit. All it means is trolls will increase quality, not quantity. Anyway i am a professional troll with several dozen IPS. Ban me and ill just move on to another. Don't even THINK about WASTING your PRECIOUS mod points on the Invincible troll.

    This troll is protected by DTM (Digital Trolling Mangement) under the DMTA (Digital Milleumium Trolling Act).

    1. Re:Troll Troll Revoloution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mod this up, that's cool man!

  29. Glow sticks by sys$manager · · Score: 1

    When are they come out with a game where I can wave glow sticks to trance music?

    1. Re:Glow sticks by Urox · · Score: 1

      It's called Dance Maniax and is from the same people that brought you DDR. It really hurts when they put the machine too close to a wall.

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    2. Re:Glow sticks by SlimySlimy · · Score: 1

      They have it. It's called Para Para Paradise, which is similar to the old Genesis Activator (I think that's what it's called).

      The game is based on the dance called the Para, and has similar game play to DDR, except you wave your hands while standing in a chamber-like area with sensors on the ground. I found a page with a little more information at http://www2.mileniumnet.com.br/~ddr/old/ppp.htm

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    3. Re:Glow sticks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fscking candy kids....ever try listening to some real techno ie. Jungle. And WTF fuck is up with all this jumping up and down like a fricken retarden jack-rabbit??? Maybe you should learn to break or in that to complicated for your extasy fried little pea brain?? :)~

  30. /. reader -- dancers? by deft · · Score: 5, Funny

    from the slashdot readers that I know... top things they'd like to see added to a game:

    10. golems
    9. battle chariots
    8. star cruisers
    7. light sabers
    6. dark elves
    5. dancing girls
    4. power axes
    3. tanks
    2. balistic missles
    1. more cinematics of lara croft

    things they wouldn't like:

    10. calisthenics
    9. exertion
    8. breathing hard
    7. movement
    6. physicality
    5. burning energy
    4. working out
    3. sweat
    2. exercise
    1. dancing

    i see a critical flaw here.

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  31. was on King Of The Hill by simetra · · Score: 2

    This thing was on King Of The Hill, in the episode where they went to Japan. I had never heard of it before that episode, nor since, until today.

    From the title, I thought this article was going to be about DDR vs Rambus ram. Hmph.

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    1. Re:was on King Of The Hill by sczimme · · Score: 1

      This thing was on King Of The Hill, in the episode where they went to Japan.

      Hmmm. I guess Bobby Hill could be representative of the /. population...

      (For those of you who will complain about stereotypes: no, I did not mean to imply that many/most/all /.-ers are fairly rotund, short people who are socially and athletically challenged. Wouldn't do such a thing. Nope. Heaven forbid.)

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  32. Believe it or not, this article is right!!! by Liora · · Score: 2

    I first played in Indianapolis. I was with my then boyfriend at an arcade, and I did not want to play. (I also did not want to do the stupid Frankenstein thing, but such is life.) But I got up there and I whipped redengine's tail. He was so bad. It was pretty early in the morning, so there was no crowd, but I keep looking for them around here b/c I can't wait to be able to do it again. Anybody know where you can find DDR things in Central Illinois?

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    1. Re:Believe it or not, this article is right!!! by Ngeran · · Score: 1

      Excellent locations list:

      http://www.ddrfreak.com/locations/locations.php

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    2. Re:Believe it or not, this article is right!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they have them at gameworks and dave & busters iin chicago- hand out some rolls to your friends before you go- that makes it REALLY interesting...

    3. Re:Believe it or not, this article is right!!! by Ngeran · · Score: 1

      Oh... And of course, being from the Chicago area myself, I should say that Gameworks in Schaumburg is probably the best place to play. They have a DDR USA, and a DDRMAX2, which is the newest machine over in Japan, and is very fun. Almost 100 songs on it to keep you dancing.

      I realize you said Central Illinois, but it's not that far to get up this direction from time to time! :D

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    4. Re:Believe it or not, this article is right!!! by Saige · · Score: 2

      Even better when you wander upon the Schaumburg Gameworks machine and someone has been nice enough to leave 30+ credits on the thing, like I've seen many a time - an entire evening's worth of play without spending a cent. Of course, that makes up for the fact that it's 6 credits for three songs there, which is overpriced - but people, like me, still do it.

      OK, you know you're addicted when you're at Gameworks once a week pumping $20 a night into the thing. *sigh* Oh well, like I care - I'm doing it again tonight. :)

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    5. Re:Believe it or not, this article is right!!! by Ngeran · · Score: 1

      Only once? :D I actually wish I could make it down there a bit more often. As for finding 30 credits on there, that's typically left by people who buy the 2 hour game card, swipe it between every song to add a credit, and get about 6-8 hours worth of play time out of it...

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    6. Re:Believe it or not, this article is right!!! by Saige · · Score: 2

      Hehe - I knew what it was they were doing, I just didn't get to see it in action until last night. Someone picked up a time card, and even with constant play on the machine, had 30 credits left after an hour.

      I bought $25 worth of credits, and hardly used any of them to play. But I still got blisters and achy legs anyways :)

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  33. here's some videos by Kargan · · Score: 4, Informative

    If, like, me, after reading the descriptions you're still having a hard time picturing just exactly what this game is about, here's a site with some videos, looks like mostly from tournaments.

    http://www.ddrfreak.com/videos.php

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    1. Re:here's some videos by Tsuzuki · · Score: 1

      You can find even more at http://www.bemanix.com/ - crazy stuff in the freestyle sections!

      This should also convince those of you who insist DDR and dancing are mutually exclusive that you can play the game without looking like you're simply "mashing buttons". :P

  34. DDR by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 1, Redundant

    "If you've ever thought of hopping up and 'busting a move', be sure to check it out"

    Um, no I havent - next article please.

    martial arts, thanks.

  35. Mocking--dancing? by indiigo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nah, I think I'll stay on the mocking side of the fence. No amount of explaining or justifying is going to get me to budge from this lofty position.

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  36. DDR v RAMBUS by guttentag · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dude, Dance Dance Revolution is so much more fun than Radical Advanced Moronic Bouncing Up-and-down Skating!

    1. Re:DDR v RAMBUS by Fastball · · Score: 2

      Ain't no lie, bye, bye bye...

  37. You don't need an arcade.... by mblase · · Score: 5, Insightful

    DDR introduced me to social situations. I mean, before DDR, I never really mingled with people at large social gatherings. But DDR has made me a much more social person, forcing you to either deal with people or play at home.

    For what it's worth, regular dance lessons (of pretty much any kind. I started with swing and proceeded into ballroom) will achieve the same result, teaching you to be more sociable and courteous -- especially with the opposite sex -- while also helping you get into better shape.

    I was going to say that DDR is probably cheaper than dance lessons, but at a buck for three songs, it's probably not.

    Crack your paper Yellow Pages to look for dance instruction in your area, or look in the quarterly park district catalog. Learn some partner dances. Swallow your pride and practice them in public. If nothing else, it'll make the next wedding reception you attend 100% more enjoyable.

    1. Re:You don't need an arcade.... by bozoman42 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Amusingly, the Geek aversion to dance and/or public situations is similar to that of the Japanese public. A wholy heart-warming and amusing movie about this from Japan is Shall We Dance. It could be found at our local library in the foreign films section and I would highly recommend it.

    2. Re:You don't need an arcade.... by Renraku · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Nothing's like DDR when it comes to song selections and intensity. I haven't seen anything as intense as those songs. I love most of the songs, and its in a relaxed atmosphere. No lessons, no need for partners or dressing up. And DDR machines around here are in our local malls, so we can just go whenever.

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    3. Re:You don't need an arcade.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Something tells me you're an Avril Lavigne fan.

      Damn Sk8er Boi

    4. Re:You don't need an arcade.... by prismatic · · Score: 2

      I'm a social dancer myself, and believe it or not most of the people I go out with are engineers or engineering majors. There's the occaisional geoscience grad student or art major, but by and large most of the dancers I know either are or were electrical engineering, computer science, or mechanical engineering majors. Its actually quite suprising that most of the dancers I know are geeks.

      On another note, I also highly recommend Shall We Dance. Its amusing, its fun, the music in it is great.

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    5. Re:You don't need an arcade.... by ChannelX · · Score: 1
      Nothing's like DDR when it comes to song selections and intensity. I haven't seen anything as intense as those songs. I love most of the songs, and its in a relaxed atmosphere. No lessons, no need for partners or dressing up. And DDR machines around here are in our local malls, so we can just go whenever.
      Um....try East Coast Swing or Lindy Hop then get back to me. The only time I wasn't ever relaxed at a swing dance lesson was the first one I ever took. Its a blast...its a great way to meet women and it gets you in shape. You don't know what you're missing in partner dancing until you've tried it and done it for awhile. There is nothing quite like Lindy Hopping with a partner when you're both totally on and really hooked in with each other. Great experience.
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    6. Re:You don't need an arcade.... by koreth · · Score: 2
      I've been doing social (ballroom, salsa, swing) dancing for nearly three years now, and I have to agree, it's a great activity, much more satisfying than any dance game I've played.

      In many ways it's a perfect social activity for shy nerd types, in that if you get good at it and you're reasonably polite to your partners, members of the opposite sex will be scrambling past each other for a chance to dance with you even if you can't make idle conversation to save your life. You don't even have to speak the same language! That's true for both guy geeks and girl geeks. Best of all, getting good at it isn't a matter of having a natural talent; I was a complete klutz when I started, but I took a bunch of lessons and practiced diligently and now I'm having to turn women away.

      It's not a purely physical thing, either; some social dances give your brain as much of a workout as your body, and (especially if you're a guy) they'll test your reflexes and on-the-fly decisionmaking skills as much as a good game of Quake will. When you're dancing, say, a tango, you're simultaneously threading your way around a dance floor full of other people moving unpredictably, staying in time with the music and listening to its structure so you can choose good steps to match its feel, planning your moves far enough ahead to end up pointed in the right direction, indicating your intentions to your partner slightly ahead of actually taking your steps (i.e., leading), and staying ready at all times to react gracefully to avoid a collision when someone suddenly appears right in front of you. It's a thrill ride, and that's not counting the attractive woman pressed up against you!

      Most of the folks at the places I dance are science/engineering types, so I'm not alone in thinking it's a good geek pastime.

      Ballroomdancers.com has a decent list of places to dance ballroom. If salsa is more your speed, you can try SalsaWeb.com. Most social dance places offer cheap group lessons for beginners; look up your nearest one and give it a try!

    7. Re:You don't need an arcade.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they'll test your reflexes and on-the-fly decisionmaking skills as much as a good game of Quake will.

      The key is to take a railgun shot at your partner from as far away as possible. Then close in fast with rockets and if you get real close finish your partner off with a shotgun.

    8. Re:You don't need an arcade.... by Idarubicin · · Score: 2
      For what it's worth, regular dance lessons (of pretty much any kind. I started with swing and proceeded into ballroom) will achieve the same result, teaching you to be more sociable and courteous -- especially with the opposite sex -- while also helping you get into better shape.

      Couldn't agree more. I also have to recommend Irish dancing, of the sort one finds at a ceili. (Various transliterations abound--Gaelic is a fiendish language at times. Listen for something pronounced, KAY-lee.) It's sort of an Irish square dance. There's a caller, and you're told what to do before and (usually) during the song. One of the more difficult aspects of swing dancing (I've found) is the need to improvise as you go along--it's something I'm just not very good at.

      I have two left feet. But as long as you're moving in about the same direction as everyone else, there's nothing to fear. The ability to count to eight is helpful as well--but that shouldn't be a problem in this crowd. You get the opportunity to dance with lots of partners (or groups, or lines)--or not, if you prefer--and it is excellent exercise. Don't be afraid to take a breather now and then--there's usually good imported Irish stout available on site as well.

      I was only exposed to the concept earlier this year, and I haven't looked back. Now, all of my friends are doing it--a motley assortment of physicists, chemists, and biologists, with wildly varying amounts of coordination, innate talent, and attention span.

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    9. Re:You don't need an arcade.... by hervoicehoneyed · · Score: 1

      Seriously, you don't gave to _pay_ (dance lessons) or play a game to learn to be sociable and courteous. If you do, then social activity may not be your forte. Spend your money wisely on something else.

    10. Re:You don't need an arcade.... by pmz · · Score: 1

      I was going to say that DDR is probably cheaper than dance lessons, but at a buck for three songs, it's probably not.

      My wife and I looked into ballroom dance lessons in preparation for our wedding. Let's just say that once we saw the brochure with the price, we dropped that idea in less than a fraction of a second.

      Dance lessons can run several hundred dollars just to learn the basics. A full run would cost thousands. Perhaps if we knew a friend of a friend who gave lessons, we could have found a cheaper solution, but that didn't surface as an option at the time.

      So, if DDR is just $1 per play, then that is pretty cheap, in my opinion.

    11. Re:You don't need an arcade.... by David+Greene · · Score: 1
      I'm not normally a "me too" poster, but ChannelX is right on. There is nothing more enjoyable than a good Lindy Hop with a fun partner and great connection. As for intensity, while Lindy Hop can be done to faster music (it's quite challenging, though) there is more to creating energy than tempo.

      Swing really will get one into shape, as will almost any type of dancing. Partner dancing is a wonderful way to meet new people and socialize in a relaxed atmosphere. I recommend progressive lessons to everyone that indicates the slightest interest in dance.

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    12. Re:You don't need an arcade.... by japhmi · · Score: 1

      Did you check out the local university or community college? Around here, lessons could be had for about $50-$100 a term (10 weeks, 2 hours a week which is $2.50-$5/hour).

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    13. Re:You don't need an arcade.... by NightParrot · · Score: 1

      Of course, that was to learn the basics of either five or ten different dances, which isn't really what you needed for one wedding. Let's say for the sake of argument that four hours would suffice to teach you enough foxtrot to get through that first dance or two. Most instructors I know charge around US$60/hr. Is $240 too much for a wedding accessory? Maybe. Is it too much for a professional to teach you how to do something that isn't easy? I don't think so, which probably explains all those lessons I've taken.

      A basic ballroom series is surely overkill for your wedding; seen as the foundation for your new hobby, it's probably more reasonable. Depends on what you want out of it.

  38. it feels really cool by Apreche · · Score: 2

    when somethign you've been into for like over a year starts to become popular in a mainstream way. Our arcade has a 4th mix machine and we have a ps1 with pads at home, and we're pretty damn good.
    However, I've noticed a bad trend in DDR. There are lots of people who play just to hit the arrows. I mean if I can't beat every catastrophic song on maniac some people wont even bother talking to me. So for all you people who are bragging about your ability to hit every single 1/64th note crazy speed arrow on a 100 foot song, you suck, get a life. I mean playing a game instead of dancing is bad enough.
    So for all you DDR people, it's about having fun and possibly even looking good! *gasp* or at least trying to look good.

    If you don't know about DDR or Bemani check out
    www.ddrfreak.com
    www.bemanistyle.com

    Paraparaparadise is pretty cool.

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    1. Re:it feels really cool by DeltaSigma · · Score: 1
      It feels really cool when somethign you've been into for like over a year starts to become popular in a mainstream way.

      Think about what you just said, then observe your own minor complaints about its popularity that come immediately therafter. That list of complaints will only grow as it becomes more popular.

      Take it from a goth: when something you're into goes wildly mainstream, it is not cool.
    2. Re:it feels really cool by FigWig · · Score: 2

      You've been into it for over a year? I got bored of DDR about 3 years ago. Obviously my obscure video game coolness quotient is way higher than yours. You better start looking for the next bizarre video game craze now so you can avoid this type of ridicule in the future.

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    3. Re:it feels really cool by Weffs11 · · Score: 1

      "I mean if I can't beat every catastrophic song on maniac some people wont even bother talking to me. "

      Nothing wrong with tech players. Not that I can beat MaxUnlimited yet, even with raping the bar...
      However, some are elitest assholes, just like Mac users.
      As a player yourself, can you not reconize the skill they developed to do be able to AAA combo songs on heavy?

  39. Truly a troll full of poo. by ArcSecond · · Score: 1, Troll

    Yes, I'm talking to you. I wish I could find out where you live so me and Steve could come over and hang out with you for a minute or two.

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    1. Re:Truly a troll full of poo. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Meet me in New York City this weekend in front of the Museum of Modern art, 3:00 PM. I'm 5'10" with blonde hair and a goatee. I'll be wearing a blue baseball hat and a white t-shirt, unless it is cold and I'll have a blue nylon coat on. Walk up to me and say "you from slashdot?" and then I'll kick your fucking teeth in. I'll make you cry like a goddamned pussy in front of the greatest city in the world. You cunt, meet me there unless you're a chicken-shit faggot afraid to stand behind your words. Fucking asshole, put up or shut up.

  40. whatever happened to the foxtrot? by desau · · Score: 1

    Or the waltz? Quickstep? Tango? Cha-cha?

    Eh -- I think DDR is great -- it gives the otherwise-tranced-into-everquest kids some excersize. God knows most americans need it.

  41. You people are HACKS. by Mulletproof · · Score: 0, Troll

    The Dance Dance phenomenom started OVER THREE YEARS AGO. It's not news, it's not for nerds, it doesn't matter and it's stale as all f!@#. I realize some of the readers here are the secluded sort, but one visit to any major arcade within that time would have clued you in to this popular phenomenom. You certainly don't need a guide to figure things out. Please, don't disgrace the word Editor by applying it to yourselves. Infact, replace yourselves with a very small shell script as I'm sure it'd do a better job of finding real, not to mention interesting news. Heck, some of it might even be for nerds.

    And yes, I already know K5 exists, thankyouverymuch.

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  42. Let Me Just Tell You by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I live in New Orleans. There's an arcade in the French Quarter, called the Penny Arcade.

    In the French Quarter, lots of poor inner city kids make money by tacking metal bottle caps to the bottom of their shoes and tap dancing for lurid tourists.

    They take a break, and come to Penny Arcade to play Dance Dance Revolution, the big one with dual feet areas, etc.

    Goddamn they fucking light up the arcade. It's no fucking joke, its really, really cool. There will be two hotshots on the pads, with like twenty kids all around, yelling, dancing themselves. Those that have had the opportunity to pass through the French Quarter may have an idea what its like.

    It is filled with so much activity and life; truelly a fun, amazing thing.

  43. In *my* day they had Pac Man... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and you liked it!! Youuuu loved it!!

    Yaaaaaa.

  44. This should be on Kuro5hin... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...along with "How to Enjoy Macrame" and "Yogourt: Why I'll Live to 100".

  45. DDR does exist for the PC by Ryu2 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Contrary to what the article said, there is a REAL DDR port by Konami for the PC that just came out recently... I've seen it for sale at Fry's electronics. You can use a dance pad that connects via the USB cable.

    It's DDR 3rd mix only, though, I believe.

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    1. Re:DDR does exist for the PC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      One of those PS2 to USB adaptors can be bought here:

      http://www.soyousa.com/commerce/proddesc.php?id=11 6

      or more details at:

      http://www.soyousa.com/products/proddesc.php?id=11 6

    2. Re:DDR does exist for the PC by winne+too · · Score: 1

      sorry, but i bought it and having played stepmania and dance with intensity before, i was quite disappointed.

    3. Re:DDR does exist for the PC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, IIRC, DDR PC is based on the 4th Mix interface, just like Konamix is.

  46. Know your DDR opponents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Funny article/guide over at somethingawful.com on various opponents you may face at the arcade.
    http://www.somethingawful.com/article.php ?id=378

  47. Everyone knows by HarryV · · Score: 1

    That real geeks dont dance

  48. Wake up, there are cheaper places to dance. by Auckerman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    First time I ran into DDR was at a local Fun Zone. Some kid was "dancing" on some pads, appearantly having fun. Paying a dollar for maybe 5 minutes. The night before I was in a club dancing for free. Better music, more people, and it didn't cost me a thing.

    I'm all cool with what people find fun, but DDR is outright lame. Not because dancing in public is lame, but because it's expensive, the music isn't the best, and you look like a fool in an arcade dancing on some buttons.

    Whatever, I guess I'm just trolling.

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    1. Re:Wake up, there are cheaper places to dance. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      You spent money on transportation to a club? I dance in my living room for free, and I don't even have to wear clothes.

    2. Re:Wake up, there are cheaper places to dance. by Enonu · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You're missing the appeal.

      What's the point of playing a game? Two answers depending on who you are:

      1. To have fun
      2. To beat it

      I'm personally in the #1 and #2 crowd. DDR songs at 9 feet (1 == beginner) are exceptionaly hard. So hard, that'd I'd challenge any "real" dancer to do a 9-footer, and get at least a B in under 20 tries. Normal people might be able to do it after 500 or so tries.

      Now here's the obsession people have. Do the above, but get a AA (not missing a step and staying on-time). Ah, missed a step --> do the entire song again! It's like being able to beat Contra without dying once. Stractch that. It's like being able to beat ghost and ghoblins and not dying once. It's a real accomplishment.

      Finally. If you're overweight, the game kicks ass for losing weight. Even in public, it's worth the shame to lose the pounds. I've met people who've lost over 60lbs on the machine. I doubt there are many other weight loss methods that'd compete in terms of fun.

      So, is DDR worth it? Depends on who you are.

    3. Re:Wake up, there are cheaper places to dance. by zapfie · · Score: 2

      DDR, despite the name, is not about dancing (yes, i know about freestyle, but that is probably the exception rather than the rule). It is a rythem game, where you match the steps displayed on the screen. It is more about having fun and going with the beat of the music. Who cares if you look stupid? It's still fun for a lot of people, gets them to meet other people and exercise. They shouldn't stop because other people think it looks goofy.

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    4. Re:Wake up, there are cheaper places to dance. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      First time I ran into DDR was at a local Fun Zone. Some kid was "dancing" on some pads, appearantly having fun. Paying a dollar for maybe 5 minutes. The night before I was in a club dancing for free. Better music, more people, and it didn't cost me a thing.

      Well, the point of DDR is not only to possibly look cool "dancing," but that there's a challenge to it. The underlying fundamental is that the steps follow the beat, so the game tests how well you can "groove". Remember, it's a game, and no game is really fun if it's not challenging.

      I'm all cool with what people find fun, but DDR is outright lame. Not because dancing in public is lame, but because it's expensive,

      If you're looking to just dance, then yes, it is expensive. But if you like the game, then it's really not that much more expensive than any of the other novelty games (light gun, racing, etc.) you'd find in an arcade.

      the music isn't the best,

      Like a lot of things in life, "good" music is subjective. I personally like the music in DDR. Sure, it's not the same kind of music you'd find at a club or a rave or something, but you also have to keep in mind that this was originally a Japanese game. So, most of the music was produced in Japan, and for me, that's what I find appealing about it. The songs are unique and different, and ever so slightly catchy.

      and you look like a fool in an arcade dancing on some buttons.

      Well, if you're enjoying the game, what does it matter what other people think? You're having fun, and that's all that matters. :) But if you want to look smooth, too, you don't have to play for just step accuracy. You can play what's called "freestyle," where you hit the arrows correctly enough that you don't fail, but you also pull your own moves. That brings on the extra challenge of getting the steps AND looking cool. Just check any of the top player tournament footage out there, and TELL me you're not impressed.

      Whatever, I guess I'm just trolling.

      Eh, maybe just a little. ;)

    5. Re:Wake up, there are cheaper places to dance. by TechnoPops · · Score: 1
      First time I ran into DDR was at a local Fun Zone. Some kid was "dancing" on some pads, appearantly having fun. Paying a dollar for maybe 5 minutes. The night before I was in a club dancing for free. Better music, more people, and it didn't cost me a thing.

      Well, the point of DDR is not only to possibly look cool "dancing," but that there's a challenge to it. The underlying fundamental is that the steps follow the beat, so the game tests how well you can "groove". Remember, it's a game, and no game is really fun if it's not challenging.

      I'm all cool with what people find fun, but DDR is outright lame. Not because dancing in public is lame, but because it's expensive,

      If you're looking to just dance, then yes, it is expensive. But if you like the game, then it's really not that much more expensive than any of the other novelty games (light gun, racing, etc.) you'd find in an arcade.

      the music isn't the best,

      Like a lot of things in life, "good" music is subjective. I personally like the music in DDR. Sure, it's not the same kind of music you'd find at a club or a rave or something, but you also have to keep in mind that this was originally a Japanese game. So, most of the music was produced in Japan, and for me, that's what I find appealing about it. The songs are unique and different, and ever so slightly catchy.

      and you look like a fool in an arcade dancing on some buttons.

      Well, if you're enjoying the game, what does it matter what other people think? You're having fun, and that's all that matters. :) But if you want to look smooth, too, you don't have to play for just step accuracy. You can play what's called "freestyle," where you hit the arrows correctly enough that you don't fail, but you also pull your own moves. That brings on the extra challenge of getting the steps AND looking cool. Just check any of the top player tournament footage out there, and TELL me you're not impressed.

      Whatever, I guess I'm just trolling.

      Eh, maybe just a little. ;)

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    6. Re:Wake up, there are cheaper places to dance. by Burning1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So hard, that'd I'd challenge any "real" dancer to do a 9-footer, and get at least a B in under 20 tries.

      Uh... Dude... DDR is an arcade game. Most dancers actually dance; They don't have a lot of skill at mashing buttons.

      With that said, while people may be losing weight playing DDR, doing so is not going to get them into awesome shape (this is me speaking as a bodybuilder.) If they don't change their diet and they don't continue to excercise after the DDR craze has warn down on them, the benifits of the game aren't going to last.

      I'll stick to diet, weightlifting, and real life arobics (such as swimming, skating, and "real" dancing,) thank you. : )

      Oooh... Side note: contrary to popular belief, dieting doesn't mean sarving one's self. ^_^

    7. Re:Wake up, there are cheaper places to dance. by kmellis · · Score: 2

      Okay, I have a question. I've also been a poor dancer, which seems strange since I'm a percussionist. But, over the years, I've become pretty convinced that good dancing is a lot more about the groove than the beat. I get all caught up in trying to make my body reflect the rythmn of the music, which is far too technical. So, I'm wondering: does DDR appeal to that technical adherence to a rythmn in contrast to real dancing?

    8. Re:Wake up, there are cheaper places to dance. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Better music, more people, and it didn't cost me a thing.
      Yes, but you didn't win did you? You merely had fun, without the feeling of victoriously crushing your opponents.
    9. Re:Wake up, there are cheaper places to dance. by Jeremi · · Score: 2
      Uh... Dude... DDR is an arcade game. Most dancers actually dance; They don't have a lot of skill at mashing buttons.


      No, but dancers usually do have a developed sense of rhythm, and an ability to move to their feet to right positions at the right time. DDR may not be 'real' dancing, but that isn't to say they don't have anything in common.

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    10. Re:Wake up, there are cheaper places to dance. by TechnoPops · · Score: 1
      So, I'm wondering: does DDR appeal to that technical adherence to a rythmn in contrast to real dancing?

      That it does. After you've played the game a while, you'll notice that most steps will follow each beat in the song. Sometimes there'll be steps thrown in that conicide with lyrics and sound effects and the like, so in that respect, it is a little bit about the groove. But at it's core, DDR is about stepping to the song's rhythm. So, in a word, yes. :)

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    11. Re:Wake up, there are cheaper places to dance. by jandrese · · Score: 1

      Wow, a lot of people were taken by this troll. I applaud you.

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    12. Re:Wake up, there are cheaper places to dance. by zapfie · · Score: 1

      You owe it to yourself to try a 10-footer. 9 feet is hard, but 10 feet just gets insane.. (DDRMax2 has 10-foot songs)

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    13. Re:Wake up, there are cheaper places to dance. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MAX2 songs 10-foot songs are overrated. Maxx Unlimited is especially overrated, not worth anywhere near the 10-feet it's classed as.

    14. Re:Wake up, there are cheaper places to dance. by zapfie · · Score: 1

      Uh, would you classify them as 9 feet? They certainly are far above any 9 foot song I can think of. Maybe it's your scale that needs re-adjusting, not theirs.

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    15. Re:Wake up, there are cheaper places to dance. by NMSpaz · · Score: 1

      Expensive? Home simulators are free-- look at stepmania or DWI. When I first started playing almost 3 years ago, it was just a few of us regulars. Only a few people would just randomly (interestingly enough, most of these people were Asain-- cultural thing I guess). Over the next two years, more and more mainstream-looking males would play. This past year, however, it's gone mainstream enough that even girls play it. My local arcade actually has a pretty even gender split, and there are often more girls playing DDR than boys! These aren't tomboys either. I mean like miniskirt, purse and cell-phone girls. With all this added attention, almost every arcade has one now. When I first started playing, it was $1.50 for 3 songs. Now it's $0.50 for the same 3 songs, and the lines are shorter because there are more machines. On challening ("Oni") mode, good dancers can spend 15 minutes on a single credit. That's NOT expensive. Even for beginner players, it's cheaper than working out at a gym, plus you meet cool people, and you actually DO it. Mock all you want, but you're missing out

  49. Links to download program and songs by chrisdanford · · Score: 1

    StepMania web site
    SourceForge project page

    Songs for download:
    DDRManiaX
    DDR East Invasion

    My apologizes for the sloppy posting. This is my final post :-)

  50. ddr destroyed my relationship by terminal96 · · Score: 3, Funny

    ddr destroyed my relationship :( girls are evil

  51. Burn, burn, it's a karma inferno! by tRoll+with+Butter · · Score: 1

    I play video games specifically because I feel like sitting on my fat lazy ass and NOT moving about. This is just like those old interactive mats and power gloves Nintendo had that never really took off. Most gamers just want to press buttons, actually having to dance or beat up a virtual opponent is too much like -gasp- WORK.

    Is it great for people who like to dance and also like video games? I guess. Is it going to get ME into an arcade? No. If I feel like doing something physically active, I'd much rather be doing it in the great outdoors.

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    1. Re:Burn, burn, it's a karma inferno! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, it's not just like Nintendo's mats and power gloves "that never really took off" because DDR did take off. It's popular enough for an article on /. after all.

  52. Bemani by Lomby · · Score: 2, Informative

    I just got back from Japan and I got addicted to another bemani (Beat Mania) kind of game.
    It is called "Taiko No Tatsujin" (Drum Master).
    It is really addictive: you have to play a japanese drum (kodo). The machine has an incredible bone shaking sound, that really gives you the idea of hitting a giant drum.
    This game is particular, because it is very beginner friendly, but it can also be used by experts.
    The tune selection is also great!
    You can see the arcade machine here.
    A PS2 is on its way, lucky me (and you)!

  53. That Spanking game by RatBastard · · Score: 1

    I always thing of that spanking game "Pogo-Pongo" or something, when I think of DDR. It's a WTF? kind of feeling.

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  54. Re:/. reader -- dancers? by simetra · · Score: 1, Flamebait



    You forgot something on the first list - gay Hobbits.

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  55. A Guide to Dance Dancers by Rayonic · · Score: 5, Funny

    This topic wouldn't be complete without a link to this.

    That is all.

    1. Re:A Guide to Dance Dancers by back_pages · · Score: 1

      Somethingawful also has a "Dance Dance Karnov" flash game that is hilarious.

  56. New security interface? by Nkwe · · Score: 2, Interesting
    You could always put a set of pads outside your front door, door to the machine room, lab, etc.

    Swipe your badge? No Way, dude.

    Dance the right steps? You are in!

    Combine security and corporate fitness all in one...

    1. Re:New security interface? by terminal96 · · Score: 1

      certainly would be interesting to watch a bunch of scrawny, uncoordinated geeks trying to max combo a song just to get into a machine room to fix a locked up webserver or something

  57. The man has a point. by Mulletproof · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Study the demographics that play DDR (no sources, just spend a night at your local gameworks). Having skills in DDR is a good way to hook up with the ladies as this is one of the few games they seem to like and float around the most. On a side note, I'd be more impressed with people who play DDR if they could bust their moves at random instead of the physical game of memorization DDR is.

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    1. Re:The man has a point. by Broccolist · · Score: 2
      I'd be more impressed with people who play DDR if they could bust their moves at random instead of the physical game of memorization DDR is.

      All the DDR players I know don't do any memorization at all. They read the arrows off the screen in real time. Try it: ask a high-level player to do something they've never done before, and they'll clear it with no more problems than usual. Seeing all those arrows, I wouldn't have thought the human brain could process that much information at once, but it's possible with training.

    2. Re:The man has a point. by Henry+Pate · · Score: 1

      Actually the game designers thought of that. There is a shuffle mode, where the arrows are still at the same points, but turned different ways. There is also left, right, mirror, and a bunch of other options to change the gameplay. There are even freestyle competitions for DDR, you can watch videos of some at www.ddrfreak.com

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  58. Dance? by hoagieslapper · · Score: 1

    What a slashdotter dance?

  59. Modding your dance pads by drivers · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you want your home DDR pads to last you need to take a trip down to Home Depot (or Lowes or whatever) get some supplies and mod your soft pad into a durable hard pad. Follow the instructions here: home modding

  60. Dance Dance Revolution + Samba De Amigo by no_opinion · · Score: 1

    I haven't tried DDR myself, but I did visit a friend who had Samba De Amigo, in which you gain points by shaking a pair of maracas! It's probably just a matter of time before someone combines the two to produce the ultimate video game workout!

  61. Re:relax, this is a good thing...DDR may get you l by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    Whats a "girls"?

    I asked all my nerdy friends, but they didn't know either.

    Is a girls some sort of 'next generation' gaming console?

  62. from those who hate it... by Cheetahfeathers · · Score: 2

    I hate it for one reason: volume. Every time I come near one of those things the sound is turned up so high that it feels like it'll rupture my eardrums! Feeling like my ears have been boxed is not fun.. turn those things down. You in the cars with the too loud bass should listen too.. :P

    In addition to that bit of horridness about DDR, there is no redeming feature to the game. ;)

    1. Re:from those who hate it... by ces · · Score: 1

      You in the cars with the too loud bass should listen too.

      Don't worry in 10 years the losers who drive around with their "atomic bass cannon" turned up to be mistaken for an earthquake won't be able to "listen" because they will be stone deaf from hearing damage.

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    2. Re:from those who hate it... by Weffs11 · · Score: 1

      We here in the Metro DC area often have the opposite problem. Its often turned so LOW as to be unable to be heard over the other arcade games, even when playing. It makes it really hard to play when the song is blending into the background...

  63. NO Dancing by termite666 · · Score: 1

    Sorry but I am Caucasian ,therefore my ability to dance is impaired .

    1. Re:NO Dancing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry but I am Caucasian ,therefore my ability to dance is impaired.

      Hey, are you planning to go on the big boat trip back to the motherland? Caucasia is beautiful this time of year.

    2. Re:NO Dancing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actually i'm white and very good
      i got addicted cause there was a box near my job and i made enough money to take breaks there and play and now maxx unlimited on heavy is all i can't do , the rush is honestly incredable, mmm raw good

  64. MOD THIS UP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WE need MORE SLASHDot TROLLS IN THE WORLD (linux roolzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) FUCK THE Police and the RIAA ALL AT THE same TIME niggaZZZZZZZZZ

  65. Not everyone uses it for exercise by guttentag · · Score: 3, Funny
    I know there's someone out there who spent weeks writing a shell script that would "watch" the screen and return the appropriate feedback so he could play without having to get off his ass.

    Come on, I know you're out there and I know you read Slashdot.

  66. Hm by zapfie · · Score: 2

    One of the best parts about DDR is that if you go to an arcade with the right crowd, it is a very social atmosphere. I started out on the home version, but it's gotten to the point where I don't bother even playing unless I can go to an arcade. I have met over 20 new friends (many of whom I have become very close to) by playing DDR, and I'm sure there will be more to come. If you are new to DDR, you will want to be sure to go to DDR Freak. It has locations for arcade machines across the US (and some international regions too), and each machine location page shows the average rating from people who play there of how they like it. Also, they have a forum system that includes regional sections, so you can see what's going on in your area (upcoming tournaments, etc.). Half the fun of DDR (at least for me) is just getting out there and meeting new people, so while the home version is fine, if you like it you really owe it to yourself to find a good arcade in your area. If anyone has any questions about DDR, I can try to answer them here.

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  67. I prefer this variant. by CaptainCarrot · · Score: 5, Funny
    Mosh Mosh Revolution!

    Ever since that strip came out, I can't walk by a DDR machine without thinking about how much better it could be...

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    1. Re:I prefer this variant. by kuiken · · Score: 1

      Hehe, Noz that would be a game. I ma sure i would rock at that game:)

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    2. Re:I prefer this variant. by tb3 · · Score: 2

      I was waiting for someone to mention that. I'm suprised there isn't a home version by now. Just merge the source trees from DDR and GTA3, and instant console hit!

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    3. Re:I prefer this variant. by FunkSoulBrother · · Score: 1

      gah.. whats wrong with the eyes on those drawings??? And the mouths.....

      How did this guy get a comic strip?

  68. I wouldn't call it dancing though... by Eric+Lai · · Score: 1

    Frantically smashing buttons on the ground is hardly dancing. I've seen a few really good DDR players that KIND of made it look like dancing, but seriously, most people just look like they're squashing bugs.

    It's more acrobatics when they get all fancy than it is dance.

  69. What is DDR? by xtremex · · Score: 1

    I haven't stepped into an arcade since 1988. I have no clue what Dance Dance is..someone wanna help me out?

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  70. Re:relax, this is a good thing...DDR may get you l by m3000 · · Score: 1

    I think it's pretty established that playing DDR wil l make girls look at you and smile maybe, but get you laid? Nope. It's been done and tried.

  71. An AC beat me to it, but... by Tofuhead · · Score: 4, Interesting

    http://www.somethingawful.com/article.php?id=378

    The last entry is no joke. The kids you'll find in Hawaiian and Californian arcades (in my experience) just don't mess around.

    I guess every generation needs its killer app arcade game. Back in my day (said the ancient 20-something), it was 2-D fighters like Street Fighter II et al. Seeing my nieces and nephews dominate the DDR machines reminds me of when _I_ was the little Asian punk keeping everyone else off the SF2 machine. =P I guess the difference (actual non-violent physical activity vs. non-physical fantasy violence) is a good one, but I'm too set in my fuddy-duddy fighter ways ever to give DDR a shot.

    I'll take a joystick or Ascii Pad FT over a dance mat/platform any day.

    < tofuhead >

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    1. Re:An AC beat me to it, but... by Rayonic · · Score: 2

      Hey! I'm not an AC! :(

  72. I really feel old now by Quixote · · Score: 2

    I read most of the article(s), waiting for the punchline and for the author to start talking about CAS latencies, RAMBUS (is evil), etc. and then it dawned on me that he reall was talking about some sort of physical activity. At that realisation, I stopped reading since "physical activity" is something that I'm fairly averse to... :)

  73. As an avid player of DDR.... by pclinger · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I must say this is one of the greatest arcade games ever invented.

    Sure, when you are new to the game, you look like a retard who doesn't know the difference between stepping left and right on a pad, but hey, you have fun. Once you get good at the game, you can draw a crowd (seriously!) and have a lot of fun. It's one of the only games that women will actually stop and look at (yes fellow geeks, I said women, got your attention now?)

    For those of you who say it is expensive, go to a place like Nickel City where games a lot cheaper. Many of these "nickel" places have DDR for you to play for around 20 cents. Now that is not expensive. It would cost you about 2 bucks an hour to just keep playing. Going to a movie is more expensive than that. And just imagine how many calories you could burn! You may actually *gasp* lose weight!

    A great resource for information about DDR is www.ddrfreak.com. Go look at some of the videos.

    BTW, there is DDR for the playstation if you are interested. Go to your local gaming store if you are interested in getting it.

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    1. Re:As an avid player of DDR.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Idea: take actual dancing lessons. You get to ACTUALLY TOUCH a girl the first time, and every time, and you can use your m4d sk1llz in all sorts of venues that don't include videogames. Prime example: weddings. Dance well with single ladies you don't know at a wedding and you not only get to ACTUALLY LAY HANDS on a FEMALE but you are very likely to hook up or at least get a phone number.

      In case all of the above doesn't make sense, I'll summarize: CHICKS DIG DANCING. CHICKS DIG GUYS WHO CAN DANCE (in the real world). CHICKS THINK VIDEO GAMES ARE LAME.

  74. Clarification by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The editor did not take into considerationt that slashdot is populated with nerds, just not _THAT_ type of nerds.

    We're more secluded in our own worlds, code a lot, discuss stuff that's boring to nowdays short-attention span teenagers, and generally are more conservative than jumping around the arcade while making an ass out of ourselves.

    We're the best kind of Nerds. This story does not belong here. DDR is for people who don't care how things are made, they are the end users. ...And we despise their kind here.

  75. I have seen people play a variation of this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    called Rave and Mamba Because U Should. (Rambus). Word on the street is that there is much less latency between moves with DDR even though RAMBUS is faster-paced

  76. Lunch With Coworkers by Oriumpor · · Score: 1

    I tell you what, we hit those machines near our office at least 2-5 times a week, and it gives some of us something to talk about (other than slashdot.)

    Not only that, it makes you feel good. Unfortunately we haven't been able to pull any of our female coworkers along yet, but then again they think we're all geeky anyways and I'm not sure taking them to an arcade to hit buttons on a metal pad would really help that oppinion much.

  77. this was the funniest thing I've ever seen by Archfeld · · Score: 2

    at a lan party. 45 people going DDR nutzo. I laughed till my stomach hurt, then realized..HEY, you know the ONLY women at the lan party were ALL there, and so were alot of guys. Just think guys, one thing WOMEN REALLY LOVE is DANCING, and this way a geek just might actually get close to one :)

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  78. MegaTokyo slashdotted by Animats · · Score: 2
    MegaTokyo message:
    Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 11520 bytes) in /www/megatokyo.com/htdocs/comic.php on line 7

    Slashdot has crashed a comic strip.

    1. Re:MegaTokyo slashdotted by CaptainCarrot · · Score: 1

      I don't think it's /. Megatokyo can handle an awful lot of traffic. They just migrated to a new back end, and it looks like they don't have all the bugs out yet.

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  79. dance dance revolution ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hahahhahahahahahhahaahahahahahahahahahah ahahah.. too funny.

  80. huzzah for DDR by EugeneK · · Score: 1

    Anything that gets peoples' fat asses out of their chairs is to be applauded. My only concern is noise; don't want to disturb my downstairs neighbors. Does anyone know of a good way to dampen the stomping?

  81. Athletic videogames by Animats · · Score: 2
    I want the exercise bikes at the gym hooked up to a combat flight simulator. Pedal harder for more speed.

    There's an arcade game like that, but it's single-player, too short, and the bike settings are wimpy. A gym version is needed. There are gym-grade exercise bytes where you move along a road, but that's only mildly entertaining.

    1. Re:Athletic videogames by merigold77 · · Score: 1

      At the gym I went to about 5 years ago, they had a bicycle with a screen. You could ride your bike around an island, a city, a forest, or the fourth setting was an aztec-theme ball court where you were trying to 'kick' the ball into the goal. You could play vs the computer or vs someone on the next bike. It was a blast :) since that was 5 years ago, they should have something better by now... too bad I don't live near that gym anymore, the ones near my house now don't have the cool stuff. Based on this article I'm thinking of getting dance dance for my ps2 or computer to get my son to exercise more. I could too :)

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  82. I did look at it.... by Auckerman · · Score: 1

    One of the first things I did after posting my reply is look up DDR on google and ddrfreak was the top listing. I downloaded the top player. He isn't that good at dancing, probabaly because of the artifical limitations on where the buttons are.

    I'm wasn't impressed.

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    1. Re:I did look at it.... by TechnoPops · · Score: 1

      Did you look at just the winner for the last tournament? Admittedly, I didn't think the winning routine for that one was all that impressive either. I'd suggest looking at footage for some of the other tourneys (especially the older ones, because they're the ones that blazed the trails). Also, think about how much style they're getting out AND the limited amount of physical space (though, a good freestyler doesn't have to do all their moves on the platform exclusively).

      [Also, for anyone who noticed, sorry for the double post.]

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    2. Re:I did look at it.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, but that's probably because of the artificial limitations on how impressed you can be, due to the fact that you're an ass.

  83. A real guide to dancing is at WatchMeDance.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The guy is a dancing god! Check it! http://www.watchmedance.com

  84. of course 7 year olds beat ya by lingqi · · Score: 2

    i am *convinced* that younger / smaller kids are more adept at games like this than relatively full grown adults like myself.

    the key seem to lie within their short, therefore fairly limble (is that a word?) extremeties.

    as legs grow longer, it need more and more energy to move them; and unfortunately our "power" (in J/s) grows at an inferior rate compared to volume (and therefore mass) as we get taller (and hopefully longer legs). Hence while a kid can match his legs to a 1/64th beat with no problems, you will sweat and pant and cry for miracles before your legs can keep up.

    and last thing: most "soft" pads are no match for the arcade pad's quality. and i generally recommend against the soft ones cuz they and usually too sensitive and when you go to the arcade you tend to not press the button hard enough to reigster a hit. (if you practice with the "hard hit", you will torn up your pads mighty quick).

    go on ebay for some "hard" pads, or build your own. it's probabbly going to get you much further.

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  85. Eighties Nostalgia? by Jonathan · · Score: 2

    I realize that a thrill for everyone '80s related is quite now quite common (look at the MAME craze), but really, getting excited about the DDR? What, do these fans drive Trabants and Wartburgs while singing Die Partei hat immer Recht?

  86. Dance With Intensity by roushi · · Score: 1

    I'm a huge fan of DDR and I've been playing it since it came out in Japan.. I prefer the Beatmania series, but I'm not too big on the Beatmania IIDX branch.

    An excellent DDR Sim for the PC is called "Dance With Intensity" and it allows you to use mp3s to recreate the DDR experience at home..all you need a dance mat for the PSX with a PSX-> USB adaptor and maybe some tv out to go to your tv. I have a laptop that functions as a dedicated DWI machine.

    http://dwi.ddrei.com/

  87. Slashdotted... by Niahak · · Score: 1

    I guess the guys at lanparty.com will only be "LANning" for some time now...

  88. DDR is a passing fad by guttentag · · Score: 2
    DDR is a passing fad. Everyone knows that in the future, when no one will dance with you, you run the following:
    echo "Computer, create dance partner."
    neckservo -left 20 -up 15
    echo "female"
    neckservo -right 20

    x=0
    while [ $x == 0 ]
    do
    ./pleasant_grin
    done
  89. If you don't Know your Enemy, you're hosed. by teamhasnoi · · Score: 1, Redundant

    A must read. Hopefully doesn't get redir'ed. ;)

  90. DDR?? by hklingon · · Score: 1, Redundant

    This artcile summary was hard to read. I kept seeing Double Dance Rate and Dance Data Revolution. I kept thinking things like.. the digital equivilent of playing a record at 75 rpm vs. 42. Or something. Double Dance Rate, for increased throuput!

  91. Whack-a-mole by ces · · Score: 1

    For me this is still the "classic" physical arcade game. Possibly because it is a social acceptable way to vent one's frustrations without getting arrested. Also the game bears a certain resemblance to many sysadmin/programmer situations, i.e. spam, viruses, lusers, etc.

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  92. At lan's ive been to.. by Fembot · · Score: 1

    People have been having ddr competitions

  93. Because he's GOTTA DANCE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.johnandward.com/directors/dance.html

    11.5 Mb of .mov but so worth the hassle.

    ".....it's time to show the people what I can do."

  94. Pump It Up! by Xenopax · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I know that DDR is the big popular dance game, but if you want one that's really fun play Pump It Up (PIU). I find that one to be a lot more challenging than DDR, plus you don't have the annoying announcer screaming "Good Job!" or whatever the hell he says.

    Also, I own the home pads for DDR and PIU, and PIU has much better pads IMO. Plus those are pads for your PC, so you can download fan made songs to dance to. :-) DDR only has playstation pads as far as I know. I'm sure there's a hack to get them going on your PC so you can download songs, but PIU is ready to go over USB.

    Reading this I want to run out and play some PIU. To bad I'm getting my ACL repaired this time next week. :-(

  95. DDR in schools by cbuskirk · · Score: 1

    A friend of mine in Orange County, CA told me that one of the P.E. Teachers brings DDR into school once a week for the students to work out on.

  96. Why I like the home units. by azav · · Score: 1

    They are /. user compatible. Since /. members are generally not allowed to have a life or go out clubbing, this fits in nicely with our reader demographic. :D

    BE THAT AS IT MAY, I would LOVE to see one of these out in a club where it could change projected visuals depending on how the dancer dances.

    I can feel the vibe. Feels trancey or maybe uptempo London/SF House.

    Mmmmmm. uptempo London/SF House. Mmmmm.

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  97. Dance Dance Karnov by David+P · · Score: 0, Interesting

    Be sure to try Rich "Lowtax" Kayanka's take on DDR:

    http://www.somethingawful.com/article.php?id=142

    It's quite fun, with two action-packed levels of flash goodness.

  98. Dance Simulators by Nathdot · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just a thought worth remembering:

    DDR is just a dance SIMULATOR

    Does as scoring a perfect mission in flight sim stealth bomber automatically qualify you for the USAF?
    More to point, a high DDR score does not mean you are ready for the dance floor of your local club.

    If it were anywhere near a close approximation to life it would at the very least tell you just what the fuck to do with your arms!

    1. Re:Dance Simulators by elveu · · Score: 1

      yes but before becoming a poilet you use a simulator . if a simulator dosn't qualify you then there are an awful lot of astronaughts who shouldn't go into space.

    2. Re:Dance Simulators by ZeiramMR · · Score: 1

      On the contrary, some people do look like they are dancing and not doing spastic tapdancing. There are two major schools to playing DDR.

      The first is Technical (acccuracy). This is trying to be as exact to the foot choreography as possible, beating the most difficult songs and courses, etc. Some people have a decent body flow when doing this, others look like Quasimodo.

      The second is Freestyling. This is where people try to look like they are actually dancing. Most create routines for a particular song/difficulty, some will do improvs.

  99. Re:/. reader -- dancers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Things they'd like to see added...

    11. Cowboy Neal
  100. I must be getting old ... by ces · · Score: 1

    Until I saw this article I'd never heard of this game.

    signs you are becoming an old fart:
    1) Slang has gotten to the point that is sounds like a foreign language to you.
    2) Teenage trends/fads/fashion don't make any sense and just look stupid to you.
    3) You first hear about the above trends/fads months after they are already "over" among the kids.

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  101. Re:relax, this is a good thing...DDR may get you l by Xaoswolf · · Score: 4, Funny
    I don't know if you can play naked DDR and have the same amount of fun as you would naked Twister.

    Are you kidding, while naked twister has the high rubbing factor, naked DDR has a higher bounce factor.

  102. Physical action games by Lady+Blue · · Score: 1

    Seriously, folks, try some of these games! Not necessarily arcade DBR, which is basically unplayable for beginners (try the home PS1 version), but "Police 911", if you want a great example of how physical motion can really add to the game experience. (But be ready to have aching muscles the next day! )

    I'm hoping that more game console manufacturers will enable these kind of input devices, since I think this is a potential new frontier for game designers. And, hey, putting exercise in games is a great way to get the parent associations to =get off our backs= about kids spending too much time playing videogames!

    ---Lady Blue

  103. mod this up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This should be modded +5 for eloquence, pretty much sums it up in a monosylable.

    I read the articles, and it seems to have not much to do with RAM, and something more to do with stepping on arrows in a manner approximating dance?

  104. I've come full circle I think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I didn't think it could get any more stupid, but now I have flipped back around. Looking at most dancing and one can't help but think of poor animals that are in their final (and very painful) last seconds of life after being hit by a car. Or perhaps it is a large number of epileptic patients relaxing to that one pop song. (Oh, come on now, don't try to convince me it is more than one... i have been listening to it far too long)

    Now I am reminded of an old Dilbert cartoon to which Alice is chiding Dilbert and the other males for playing a notebook game that is about a driving range (golf). Basically, they are rather pathetic for playing a game of a practice of a game that is not known "by any decent human being" as being a real sport. Now for real we have this fad that is about a game about dancing. This has got to be one of the more sad (but not most) things around today.

    I trully believe that if I could gather enough people together, word things just right, wear the right clothes, etc.; I could then make it a fad to punch your self in the testicles every 5 minutes. Perhaps the moniker should be, "Generation: Dumb fucking stupid sheepish bastards"

  105. actually yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    considering what the chair force produces today (and based on their and the navy's game ads) then it is a pretty good bet that getting a high score in the game is a great way to get into the USAF. Not necessarily bad, mind you. After all, short of the gravity fighting methods (as if we have not all been constipated at some point) it is really just a game. Of course a warrior would train as a warrior regardless of the particulars of their implements, but that is just old fashioned bullshit I am sure ;p

    All these 'future war' predictions (sadly by the majority of top brass) walk right into the door of complacency through dependency (on tech). I am much more confortable with a fighting force that can adapt to anything than a bunch of uniformed game jockeys in their billion dollar tubs. Tubs as in, it gets hit with a nondirectional EMP (or similar) energy blast and it becomes just another balistic missle coming in on final. When that boy ejects, he becomes nothing but a liability that must be rescued like some 103 old school teacher in the middle of an invasion. AF pilots = victims in a cockpit. Man I hope we don't go to war with China.

  106. WTF? by fro_less · · Score: 0, Troll

    What next reviews of Broadway musicals? You have sunk to new lows. I am starting to doubt the integrity of /. .

  107. Slashdot HACKS. by Mulletproof · · Score: 1, Troll

    Here a chance to take more Karma! If I allow the +1 bonus, that allows you to mod for up to 3 karma points to -1. Damn, I'm generous. But to masquerade this artical as a story? I can't even imagine generousity on that level. I mean, the world isn't exactly starved for news. Hell, Stephen King is dead, but the by-no-means-new DDR wave makes front page and he doesn't? I don't even like Stephen King, but this is horse shit. H-O-R-S-E S-H-I-T. I know, hit that -1 button, because the truth hurts. Troll it or Flame it, but the simple truth is Timothy fell down hard today. News? We ain't got no stinkin' news...

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  108. The easy answer. by Mulletproof · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Cute asian gamer chicks" Am I a hormone on a string? Sure, but paying isn't without fringe benefits.

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  109. Where have you been? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They are in malls accross the world, ive never even seen one. but my friends play it all the time.

  110. What boggles my mind by roystgnr · · Score: 1

    Is the discovery that the Nintendo Power Pad wasn't a stupid idea, it was just ahead of it's time...

  111. Mod im' up. by Mulletproof · · Score: 2

    That was good. Funny even. The resident arcade junkies at Gameworks are even worse. They'll get get one of those $20 all night passes and simply pound games like DDR until they are mastered. And the cute asian girls? I managed to avoid such a setup by noticing the bottle of water and change of gym shoes at the base of the machine... I'll be savin' those quarters and my pride, tank you very much.

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  112. DDR - God way to spend money (unlike whores) by Henry+Pate · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've been playing Dance Dance Revolution since the end of may of this year, and I can attest that it is indeed an addictive game, and a fairly fun one at that. When I started I, like so many technically inclined people, had absolutely no rhythm. DDR can be an aid for developing rhythm (most songs are in 4/4 time, there are a few exceptions). Here's a little info for those who haven't played or might be interested:

    DDR is a great way to lose weight, when you get good you'll be sweating from just one song, granted it may be an expensive diet (see below for cheaper ways to play)

    DDR can be basically free: there are a number of projects dedicated to bringing DDR to the PC (Konami released a version...but it isn't better than some of the freely available ones). There is Dance With Intensity, Diet Diet Revolution, and my personal favorite (also a sourceforge project), Stepmania, www.stepmania.com. You can play with the keyboard, but chances are you don't want to burn fat from just your fingers. You can build a dance pad (you even get a fun hardware project doing this!), you can find links and help on the forums on www.ddrfreak.com - ddrfreak also provides a nice little script that will spit out all the steps for a song, and another script that shows all known machine locations in the US! If you are lazy (what?) you can buy Konamix (available at www.redoctane.com or Electronics Boutique, and some other places). It runs on a PS1, so you can use the ps2 to play it. You can get a very good (IMO) dance pad from www.redoctane.com for about $100, the ignition 2.0 pad is excellent. You can go with cheaper ones if you wish, but you'll be very frustrated when your skills improve, the mat sticks to your free, and you flop around like a fish out of water.

    I know people who saw others playing DDR and thought it was easy, wow, you step on a little pad when an arrow hits the template...their views quickly changed when they played the game. For new players it can be very difficult, but once you are over that little peak you can really start to have fun. I enjoy the challenge of playing more difficult songs.

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    1. Re:DDR - God way to spend money (unlike whores) by Rayonic · · Score: 2

      > DDR can be basically free: there are a number of projects dedicated to bringing DDR to the PC

      You forgot some: ePSXe and other Playstation emulators.

  113. Um, yes and yes. by Mulletproof · · Score: 2

    Though the fighter simulator depends on the level of realism, getting good at DDR actually does help you in the dance department. Foot/eye coordination, visual on screen dancing representations... it's not that huge of a leap to go it on your own, actually.

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    1. Re:Um, yes and yes. by Nathdot · · Score: 2

      Seriously!

      Have you watched one of these people -- "these people" being a general veiled term of derision for all DDR enthusiasts -- going at it.

      My immediate thoughts go straight back my first aid training, specifically: What to do if someone is having a seizure.

      I have no doubts that the Dance Dance Revolutionist thinks they are "the bomb" as you kids say, but come on, they soooo are not!

  114. Re:/. reader -- dancers? by Slime-dogg · · Score: 1

    Those ten least wanted sound an awful lot like sex.

    I don't know how many men, much less /. readers would turn that down.

    :-P
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  115. WTF Indeed. by Pitr · · Score: 1

    I'm glad someone said it! Not to attract flames from the DDR crowd (no really) but I have to agree. I'm glad some people like this game and all, but I for one would like to moderate this entire submission as "off topic". I mean seriously? We might as well start talking about the virtues of pokemon. Guilty pleasure of many, but definitely not "Stuff that Matters".

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    1. Re:WTF Indeed. by elveu · · Score: 1

      i don't know if you have niticed but /. is for more people then just ones who share your tastes. when there is a topic about somthing you donm't like you don't complain you just ignore it. so allow other people to talk about things they want to in peace andhopefully they'll do the same for things that are of interest to you and not them.

  116. You kids? by Mulletproof · · Score: 1

    Since you're going there, that's "da bomb" and yes, you're right. A majority of them do look like epileptics on triple shot expressos. But there are those who, after spending their body weight in quarters (or yen), have achieved a zen like state and actually do a damn good job at- get this -dancing. I know, it's tought to believe. Hell, I was surprised I started learning dance moves from Jet Set Radio Future, but that's besides the point. And I'll be more than happy to be one of those "kids" at 27, thanx ^__^

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  117. Arm Dancing is here! by BumbaCLot · · Score: 1

    There is one game beyond this in gayness. It is dancing with ONLY your arms!! I was walking past an arcade and burst out laughing watching two mall-trash types standing still but trying to be like Madonna Vogue dancers.

    Wasn't there an article about this a month ago where they introduced this into Phys Ed classes for kids in California?

    1. Re:Arm Dancing is here! by Imperial+Tacohead · · Score: 2

      Ah, yes, Para Para Paradise. Admittedly, it's not much of a game, but I'd like to get one of the machines and use it as an interface for my computer, pretend that I was a character out of Johnny Mnmemonic or something.

    2. Re:Arm Dancing is here! by hyphz · · Score: 2

      No, you want Ez2Dancer. Uses both arms and feet; three foot sensors and between two and four active arm sensors.

  118. top ten list by freakazzoo · · Score: 1

    And I thought trepanation was stupid.

  119. DDR: Laugh if you want by Fricka · · Score: 1

    But it's fun. Try it in the privacy of your own home or in some obscure arcade during daytime hours.

    It's been going on a long time though, surprised it's only hit Slashdot now. Guess folks are not quite up to speed with the youngsters eh?

    NOTE: I'm not a "youngster" ;)

    They had a few machines over at E3 this year, I think it was for one of the consoles. Two random guys (versus folks who worked for the game) were "playing" and they looked pretty good.

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  120. Never heard of it.. but looks extremely gay. by ogre2112 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Never heard of it.. but looks extremely gay.

  121. I don't think .. by neuph · · Score: 1

    .. that I would be interested in hooking up with the kind of women who frequent arcades.

  122. Re:YOU, SIR, HAVE STOLEN MY FP. NOW TONGUE MY ANU by JudgeFurious · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    and you are I am sure well aware of which nut you can suck right? Good, just so we're clear on that.

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  123. try it, embarressed myself, hate it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ok game...
    shitty music.

  124. Re:/. reader -- dancers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bet ya Slashdot's got a decently high percentage of weirdos who would say 'Ew, bodily fluids!'

  125. Must I mention? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    '
    Wow, imagine a Beowolf cluster of these things.

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  126. Arm movement by pommiekiwifruit · · Score: 1
    If it were anywhere near a close approximation to life it would at the very least tell you just what the fuck to do with your arms!

    You've obviously never seen Riverdance.

  127. They already *are* deaf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It just makes them turn it up farther.

  128. Re:relax, this is a good thing...DDR may get you l by Trespass · · Score: 1

    post pix pls. k thx bye

  129. Can I get a proxy? by ArcSecond · · Score: 1

    You forgot to say which day, silly. And by the way you describe yourself, it look like you want a date, not a fight. Perhaps another /.'er from the NY area could help this guy get over his homophobia? I promise to pay for the condoms.

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  130. Gosh but I wish I had mod points now... by Tyler+Durden · · Score: 1

    Will somebody please, please mod this up?

    ROFL

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  131. Max300 by ShadeEagle · · Score: 1

    Max300 on Maniac? Dude.

    I'm still climbing the ladder of DDR ;-)

    Just passed Healing Vision (4th Mix/Konamix Version - Not the remix from 5th Mix... which is my current goal) and I was completely drained ;-)

    Bring a bottle of water when ya hit the arcade, you'll be glad ya did ;-)

    1. Re:Max300 by Renraku · · Score: 1

      Yeah. Good thing no one around here knows that I secretly went to the nearest 6th mix machine, passed it in front of a bunch of people and then left. They'd annoy me to death asking how I did it.

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  132. not much to do with RAM by IXI · · Score: 1

    It doesn't even have anything to do with the former German Democratic Republic which is called DDR in germany (and that's still my prime association with this abbreviation as that was it's only meaning for most of my lifetime). But as the DDR didn't have much to do with democracy I think that's consistent

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  133. A good step before taking dance lessons by obtuse · · Score: 1

    I remember my first dance lessons almost twenty years ago. It would have been better to have practiced with a machine first. Without some minimal level of either social or physical skills, real dance lessons can just aggravate the geek social isolation problems you describe. Trust me, it didn't make me _more_ comfortable with people. It was just humiliating.

    Later, I was slapped by a girlfriend for trying to dance with her. She thought I was making fun of her.

    Taking lessons with my wife (about fifty bucks for about an hour in prep for our wedding) more recently was great fun, but I'm a little more practiced at dancing, and socially a tad more graceful now.

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  134. Group lessons are affordable! by philosophyandrew · · Score: 1

    Private lessons are expensive, but group lessons are much less expensive and more social. If you need to learn the most dance skills in the least amount of time, then book exclusively a professional dance teacher's time and pay for his or her time. If you want to break into the competition scene, you'll need private instruction -- and, believe me, the costs of that will be moderate compared to all the other expenses of the strange competition sub-culture. If you just want to learn social dancing, a group class will teach you what you need to know for a fraction of the cost of private lessons.

  135. My angry old neighbour.... FROM 3 FLOORS DOWN! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sound likes to travel lets just say. I thought my building was pretty secure so when me and a friend went splits on 2 red octane DDR mats (came to $200 CDN each) we had no problems for about a week. One day though, when my friend was trying to beat MAX300 on maniac I got a loud knock on my door. Lo and behold an old man with bloodshot eyes and really bad breath starts yelling at me. I tried to explain that we were just playing a game and we'd try to play quieter but he just yelled "THIS BULLSHITS GOTTA STOP!" He was pissed.. his teeth were showing and he shoved his face into mine. Not to mention he brought a lackey who just stood back to the old man's side and kept nodding and repeated "yeah, I thoguht it was construction" atleast 4 times.

    All wasn't lost though. Me and my friends learned to play very lightly on our toes, hense playing very gracefully. It won't be long until I'm good enough to play most songs on Maniac mode. Oh and yes.. its true. DDR really helps social status. I've run into the old man's lackey a few times in the elevator since and I can tell he wants me to die...

    I forgot to mention that the lackey lives below me and the old man lives a floor or 2 below him.

    Also, the 200 dollar pads have surely paid for themselves in all the quarters I've saved (in merely a month), but I'll still go to the arcade for the big shabangs.

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  136. Re:there's always girls playing it by airdrummer · · Score: 1

    probably 4 the same reason girls r into cheerleading, line dancing, or any synchronized activity...perhaps it's a subconscious manifestation, similar to women living 2gether falling into synchronized menses;-);-);-)