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OEone HomeBase Desktop
Mike Potter writes "OEone has released its OEone HomeBase product as an open source project, and a free download. HomeBase is a complete operating environment that runs on top of Mozilla, with the base operating system being RedHat Linux 7.1 or 7.2. There's a review of it over at Newsforge. Some of the OEone software has already been released as open source to other projects. For instance, OEone's calendar was the basis of the Mozilla Calendar project."
It's an OS that runs on top of a BROWSER that run on top of another OS...
Could somebody explain to me the benefits of this? Please? Because I haven't the foggiest clue... Seems like a case of going around your elbow to get to your backside, but that's just me...
Call me a troll and mod me down to Hades, but what's the thinking behind putting an announcement regarding yet another Linux mutation on the front page while the announcement regarding the new Powermacs is cooped up in the Apple section?
Isn't that the concept behind "active desktop" in Windows, and using IE as the shell-ish thing?
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Why is it important to have redhat (or linux for that matter) underneath?
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not really :\
Active Desktop was pretty much the exact reverse - bring the internet to the desktop, bypassing the browser
this on the other hand is, uh bring the os to the uhh with the internet uh and the browser uh
nevermind, i have no idea wtf is going on here.
I think so. I mean, it's this just the whole thin-client ideology? Sure, sounds great, but not realisting in today's desktop environment. One can take a look at Sun's Java station to remember how well the Java thin-client fared.
otherwise it looks good, it looks real good, people friendly even.
I want 2D games back.
This is perfect for web browsing only computers such as those in libraries and schools.
This actually looks like a potential OpenSource killer app. It gives most non-techie users what they need, what they want and what they will use, for a fair price. Like Lindows, but without the crappy attitude and marketing tripe. The screenshots look slick, and the stuff looks easy to use. Not something I would go all that wild over, but I can see my wife, or her parents for that matter, using this without any major hassles. Add OpenOffice.org to the mix, and you are done. Cool stuff!
People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do.
An OS that runs in a browser on top of an OS... at first glimpse it sounds pretty dumb but I think its actually a cool idea. I run Windows right now, but I like playing with other OSes (and I don't feel like monkeying with my partition right now.) So why not just load one in your browser?
.NET was going to be back in the day when the word .NET was uttered by Microsoft? I know thats what Office .NET was gonna be.
Isn't that what Windows
"HomeBase is a complete operating environment that runs on top of Mozilla, with the base operating system being RedHat Linux 7.1 or 7.2"
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Oki Oki, how about Running it Under Wine in Internet Explorer window, which will be running VMWare plugin, inside which there will be RedHat Linux 7.2 running Mozilla and HomeBase on top of it... That will be really cool
At least someone is trying a tactic to finally get beyond the STANDARD desktop model. Instead with this setup you have a combo concept where you have a desktop model merged into a home page model. I doubt if you can count it as revolutionary but at least they tried to push the edge a bit.
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For an end user I think it might actually be better than some lame approach of merely emulating a windows desktop on top of linux the way a couple of distros seem to be going like the Lindows stuff.
What would be interesting to see is how a real life end user would react to such a setup.
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I hate flash so I can't view their demo.
I'll have to wait til I get to work to see if the demo will work on Galeon. How ironic if this Linux-based environment has a demo that will only work on MSIE.
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Well, I must say, for me, this system has little appeal: one of the main reasons I prefer Linux to Windows is that I can tell the difference between my desktop and my web browser (and I have many options for the latter, as well as at least two options for the former). On the other hand, I could see this appealing to the common user, and the idea of having the same desktop regardless of the underlying system is rather neat. That said, I think Microsoft is already moving in the same direction (IE and Windows become more intertwined with every release, and the MSN homepage is looking more and more like a desktop), which could spell trouble for these folks.
Come to think of it, weren't there rumors a while back that AOL was planning on doing something like this, using Netscape as the basis for a desktop? At any rate, it's neat to see the concept transformed into something solid, regardless of the eventual outcome. I'll probably throw this on my machine at home, just to see what it's like.
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Well, I watched the flash demo and I have to say it looks like a very slick environment. Without using it, it's hard to say, but I think this is the kind of thing I could give to my mom to use.
You can argue about the technical merits of their implementation all day long but look at how elegant and aesthetically pleasing the interface is compared to say the screen shots on the website of say... your favorite window manager...
That didn't look like Tux to me.
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While this "desktop" does look rather elegant and has a pleasing appearance it has some rather significant issues that may not be immediately apparent.
.doc *is* the standard, regardless of whether we like it or not. Without support for this file format and the other MS Office formats these Yet Another Office Apps(YAOA) don't have a chance.
First there is the question of speed. Layering browser type apps on top of Mozilla, on top of Red Hat is surely going to mean a performance hit.
Then of course is the age-old problem of application compatibility. Or, more specifically, file format compatibility. Here we have yet another office suite with the most important file format glaringly absent. How long will it take developers to realize that
There is also the question, a *major* one in my mind, of why a Linux based company builds their website targeting IE and Netscape base browsers. I take major issue with this, regarless of the fact that IE is the dominant browser. If you are going to use, sell or advocate open source and open standards then your web site should too. But oeone gives us Yet Another IE Site(YAIS), and one that requires Flash to view the screen shots. At least they, thankfully, didn't host the site with IIS.
Sorry oeone, I've already lost all interest.
What kind of stupid name is OEone?
looks like O E own
I am a Mac fan bigtime and I would jump right in and agree with you except that the new PowerMacs are pretty much a minor change with a little bump in speed that frankly doesn't do anything for me. The previous Quicksilver looked better (and damned glad I got one) in my opinion and the "big news" this time is the startling lack of any "big news".
Now had they popped out a G5 running at 1.5-2Ghz then they might merit more attention. Had they brought something truly different looking even then you might have seen it on the front page. As it stands it's not really much worth mentioning.
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checkout the abiword plugin for mozilla at
http://abimoz.mozdev.org
pretty cool
Considering the recent story on AOL and Mozilla/Netscape/Gecko I thought some of you would find this quote interesting. Personally I would like to see them pull off something like this.
.NET, MSN, and Passport services.
Eid is also talking to AOL. Imagine a PC with a desktop based on a Mozilla or Netscape browser, one with an AOL logo on it, that is as tightly integrated with the AOL service as Microsoft would like all PCs to be with its own
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i'd like to see this kind of simple desktop on one CD you can run on any system, Knoppix style. It would be cool just to be able to carry a cd around and have a nice simple desktop with you all the time. Beats loging on in WinXP on the computers all over my campus.
Doesn't this seem to be something very similar to the Ximian desktop? I am still weeding pieces of that shitball out of my system. I run RedHat and after installing it, I couldn't upgrade from 7.1 to
7.2 for my life. I had to go in and hand delete all the Ximian packages, and even after doing that, it still left little turds all over my system that conflicted with later version releases to this day.
I will NEVER install a third-party desktop again!!
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Their wordprocessor does support the most rudimentary .doc files but, like most it is severly lacking and results in a bad user experience. Even Abiword an excellent WP suffers from this. Star Office 6.0 is the best supporting suite yet.
The site does work with moz, assuming you have the flash plugin, but it is specifically targeted at IE and Netscape. Have a look at the source for the demo page. It's a browser identification script and it offers three choices, IE, Netscape and screwed.
Almost, but not quite. Thin Clients, like the Java Station, ThinkNIC and others rely too much on the back end. They don't have enough horsepower on the local part. They also cost too much, especially when you can get a 1.5 GHz PC for $299 w/o monitor.
This can combine the power of local apps/local storage with the flexibility of ASP-delivered services.
Think of the potential thin clients would have had if they were 1.5 GHz+ CPUs, 256 Mb RAM w/20 Gb hard drives for data cache and cable modem+ connections (assuming the ASP is 1 hop away). Oh, yeah. And they cost $99.
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I remember reading in Byte ages ago about the future "network appliances" at the time. It was when win 95 had the shell extensions to have your background a web page and web channels and so on...Netscape had something simmilar called constellation, but I've never saw it, does anyone remember it/saw it working?? Cheers! /v
Checkout the screenshot at mozdev.org small screenshot of Abiword mozilla plugin
big screeshot of Abiword mozilla plugin .
As for speed i would expect this would be no slower than running both mozilla than Abiword at the same time, so if you already have mozilla open all day everyday the speed difference is probably not noticable
Okay, what do most home users do? Browse web, read email, use word processor, maybe keep track of finances on computer.
Web browsing speed won't be an issue, as you're already using Mozilla. As for reading email and typing up documents, I really can't see speed being an issue, how fast can you type?
I can really imagine installing this for friends who want to surf/email/divx/chat but who wouldn't know their way through a setup.exe let alone a ./configure && make && make install if I stood behind them with a whip.
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You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
What's the point of having a word processing application when , all it can do is act like a viewer? While being able to read a .doc file is important, it is equally if not more important to be able to write .doc files and have the written files work correctly across platforms.
.doc is the standard, whether we like it or not. And, until we *fully* support both reading and writing in that format these other office suites are almost unusable in the real world. That's going to be a major turn-off to any would be converts.
Usually, my word processing involves creating documents that must be read by people with MS Word. This is simple enough, provided I don't care about formatting. My next major use of a word processor involves making minor edits to existing Word docs and sending them back to the original user. Won't they be thrilled to find that I corrected their spelling and as an added bonus, stripped out all of the formatting.
As I stated in the original post,
of course I thought, hey it's great someone is thinking about us stoners and providing the features that us really high end users need.
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...Having Linux on more desktops. I havent tried it yet and it doesnt appeal to me directly (although I will install it soon..), but at least it's a step towards orginality on Linux desktops, and more "User-Friendly"-ness much needed for Linux.
And those who think it's a ridiculous idea, I'd like to know one thing: What are YOU doing to make things easier for end-users (I.E. Winbloze users mostly) to help them use Linux on the desktop?
We have to start thinking in terms of whats cool for such newbies, and really stop having that "I dont use GUI and Im better than you lowlife win user", otherwise you're just going to be turning people away from a wonderful OS which has a lot to offer. And whats to say, that some users after some time won't start becoming "Power-Users" and use Linux like most of us.... You catch more flies with honey remember?
Spread the love, Tux love!
I'd just like to emphasize that it apparently is an operating _environment_, not operating _system_. I guess there's a difference somewhere.. Also; they're pitching it at ugly people. Or so it appears.. They have a bunch of them on their webpage.
Seems like another one of those "Gee this is a great idea" ideas that just fall flat on it's face.
This DESKTOP seems lot like just a new interface with remote storage for a price thrown in. Whatever happened to all those dot.coms that offered webbased remote storage?
Right now i see about as much use for this as used toilet paper.
i find browser based interfaces quite interesting
this kde usability report
http://dot.kde.org/1027587840/
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Seems like it might work well for newbies though.
I was pretty confused personally when trying to use KDE3, i can relate to making lots of accidental clicks. an interesting concept but i am not convinced it is a huge enough improvement to make it worth unlearning my old habits.
It is not an OS, it is a custom distribution based on Redhat, using an alternative desktop to Gnome/KDE or anything else.
If you are going to have mozilla open all day anyway why not have it integrated into your whole desktop! These would make for pretty cool web terminals.
Another post asks if this is like Active Desktop, and would say it is (even though in windows the browser is already embedded in Explorer and the whole rest of the desktop so you have already take the performance hit)
This POS wont install on Mandrake which IS mostly RedHat. So I guess Debian, SuSe and others are out of question. I say Thanks, but NO THANKS.
If you dont know how to make it work on other distros, let US do it, because I aint buying your dumbed down version of Linux.
So somebody releases another Linux desktop. Not important. What is important is that it's based on XUL, theoretically a fully cross-platform toolkit; many simple XUL-based applets can run, unedited, on Mozilla on all platforms, at native speed.
Imagine if this OEone desktop can somehow be designed to work equally well on Linux, Windows, and Mac OS. So that a user can have a completely identical desktop no matter where they are. It makes transition to Linux much easier than before. Eh?
i strongly disagree with this being moderated as offtopic, i hope people doing meta mod will correct this.
(unlike the parent, this post however is more like an editorial meta comment but at slashdot unlike k5 this means it is offtopic)
How many people don't know the first thing about using a browser? Not very many. Almost everyone that has a computer can at least get to a web site and navigate around.
I've kicked around starting a desktop Linux program at my company, but it is extremely difficult due to training aspects and people's comfort level. It is solutions such as this that help to drive people such as me to new installations because we have more tools at our disposal. Don't discount it without trying to use it.
Scott
While some components of it appear to be open source the articles obvious claim is the entire thing is open source. Going to the down load page talks about a license, and other links point to open source components, but none point to an open source download of the product as stated.
Feels like a bait and switch hoax to me.
i wish OEone HomeBase Desktop good luck and sucess :)
Please forgive me for making such broad statements. They are rarely accurate. I should have been more specific by targeting the specific programmers of Yet Another Office Apps that, rather than build on the existing work and bring the .doc file format compatibilty closer to reality, insist on starting over again.
.doc that they have already seen in MS Word. With the formatting messed up, images that aren't displayed and headers/footers trashed they go back to MS. Hopefullly they will give Star Office a try but, as close as it is, it's still not perfect.
Yes, I know that oeone is using an Abiword plugin but, unfortunately even Abiword is lacking in the compatibility areana. Perhaps not as much as KWord or whoever else you might choose but, lacking none the less. New users drop Abiword as soon as they open a
Do you remember Bob? Took about five minutes...
http://www.oeone.com/images/screenshots/sm_wordpro cessor.gif
Nice, finally an open source linux based media player that does not use MDI (Gimp is a great program but man i cannot get used to that interface).
makes sense to have an interface that is not a radical departure from Quicktime/Realplayer/Microsoft media player interfaces.
I wonder what is based on? Gstreamer, i would gess.
Oeone seems to be full of nice litte pieces that would be a welcome addition to the standard desktop.
One of the most interesting things to come from the review was the potential for this to be sold as an embedded computing device. I guess many Slashdot readers grew up in the age when we had Atari 400/800s, Vic 20s, Commodore 64s, BBC and Spectrums. The interesting thing about all these devices was that that only required a TV for display and they all had costs which were in the $100 - $350 range, low enough to be affordable to 11 / 12 / 13 years olds. For a long time after that we have been educated that $1000 has been the right price to pay for a PC with Games Consoles holding the low end of the market.
:-) ). The space advantages of having a keyboard sized device should not be underestimated, many people who have a PC for their home office don't want to take up the same space again for a kids device. As broadband take up increases this could share the bandwidth with other PCs and mobile devices.
An embedded device with this plus Linux in a single keyboard device surely hold the possibility of a return to those days. This would boot directly into the browser and mail / OpenOffice and thus provide more of the functionality than todays set top boxes usually provide. The interior of Linux would be hidden but would be available for those who wanted to hack on the system. The price could then be lower than even the bare bones systems Wal Mart has been selling recently (and remember many of us in Europe still can't get systems this cheap). By using the TV as an output device it could compete with Games Consoles and run software of similar quality (Doom, Quake World, Tux Racer
If they could get the price back to the level of the much loved home computers of old, I would buy one, if only to boot up Atari and Commodore emulators....
The what you have to do is really simple. Convince Microsoft to open up EVERYTHING regarding how they setup the DOC, XLS, PUB and all other MS Office file formats. Oh, you also have to convince them to never change the formats without first publishing all of the changes, at least 6 months in advance of releasing the next Office Release. This of course must include free to use royalty-free consent for those file formats.
Once that information is open, then there will nothing holding back the creation of fully MS Office compatible office suites. Then, MS Office will have to win by the merits of its technical superiority. (Which I grudgingly have to state, it does have.)
Okay, one thing to prove it's superiority...
In Excell, since at least the 2000 release, you can create drop down menus within cells. These are very usefull for creating reusable charts that contain very regular use information within them. Things like vendor price comparison charts and Role-Playing Game Character Sheets. (Those are two things that I currently use that feature for.) I would LOVE to see that within Star Office or Open Office, it just doesn't exist and I haven't the time nor current skills to work it into Open Office myself.
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If you ignore the other uses of a tool, does that make the tool less useful, or you less useful?
appears to be based on Red Carpet?
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It is based on RedCarpet and used with permission.
> Eid, hopes to merge that slightly forked version of Red Carpet back into the main development tree before long.
The advice to use a sacrificial testing machine is very wise.
Slashdot just would not be as much fun if people actually read the articles
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that the screenshots are all kinda small? Seems like they are trying to disguise the fact that the fonts look awful. None of this is anti aliased, and if this is aimed at mom and pop, it will bother them that their fonts look like shit.
The cvs web site says: "Penzilla, the building block of HomeBase, is now available as an Open Source project. Some documentation is available online until we get our new website, Penzilla.org, up and running. Penzilla is the Open Source basis for our HomeBase product, and enables people to create XUL applications quickly and easily. "
I don't understand why slashdotters aren't more enthousiastic about this.
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.NET he's going to try to make IE the desktop of the future (desktop in the form of webpages, programs on a remote computer). In contrast to OEone however, Bill is going to try to enslave you in the typical Microsoft way.
.NET still isn't finished) and still I only see dumb nerds trying to look smart by being the first post to criticise this new Slashdot article thing (the first poster is stupid and still moderated highly).
You can now choose between Gnome, KDE or OEone and even with just a little thinking, OEone seems vastly superiour in concept.
Seems to me OEone is using webpages to let programs communicate with users. It still has floating windows available like Gnome, KDE and MacOS but these are also little webpages.
Now the advantages this system brings that I could come up with with just a little thought:
* XHTML/XML/(XUL?) are an open standard that is maintained by a big non-commercial organisation (W3C) of smart people. Which means it'll keep moving forward/be maintained.
* The Webpage standards are designed to be programmed easily. Programming XHTML is much simpler than programming C++. The interfaces for OEone, therefore, seem easier to program for than either Gnome or even KDE because XUL seems easier than the custom C language of Gnome or the C++ of KDE. Also, with XUL you can still use your favorite language (Java, Python, Perl) instead of having to learn a C dialect to be able to GUI your program. OEone program GUIs are automatically cross platform?
* Webpages are designed to be efficiently sent across networks! This means the OEone desktop is automatically designed to be efficiently sent across networks! This means that people can work on their desktop even if the PC is on the other side of the planet. Sure, there have been Virtual Network Computing (VNC) programs for a long time that let you do this. But they seem to be based either on proprietary code or they are "dumb", sending a complete picture of the remote desktop over the network and updating that giant JPG bit by bit. The smart thing to do would be to send small pieces of code over the network that tell the computer to draw complicated stuff instead of taking a picture of something and sending that over the network, HEY, THAT SOUNDS LIKE WEBPAGES! Sure, you can come up with your own code standard, but why not adopt the standard that is already worked on by a lot of organisations and that countless individuals are familiar with XML/XUL
Centralise all your files on your home PC and work on them from anywhere instead of having to "sync" everything.
The only reason Microsoft made Internet Explorer is because Billy saw Netscape once and was terrified that it would replace the desktop GUI. He made IE to embrace and extend Netscape to death and he succeeded. With
I really don't get you people, you were bitching about Gnome and KDE because they legitimately suck. You griped about the fact that they were copying today's desktop concept instead of jumping ahead of the competition and doing something new and original.
Now with OEone you HAVE something that is a generation ahead of the competition (OEone is done,
Anyone who has even an bit of common sense/brainpower should do the smart thing and drop KDE and Gnome immediately and concentrate all their advocacy and coding on OEone or something similar. It's Licenced under LGPL, GPL and the Mozilla license so there are no more excuses and it just makes more logical sense.
I myself was holding out on switching to an open source/libre operating system (FreeBSD) because I didn't like the open source Gnome desktop. Now, with OEone I'll definitely switch as soon as it is ported to FreeBSD.
Greets and hoping you open-source junkies will do the smart thing, doc modulo
...this thing seems like a security nightmare. Not only in terms of users on the same pc trouncing each other's email, but also in services being sent out over the Internet through corporate firewalls.
The Mozilla platform gives you much the same benefit of .Net, only on multiple HW/OS platforms, TODAY!
Why do all OS projects have to have the worlds dumbest names? If it's unpronounceable the better it seems too.
You know just a tiny tiny bit of marketing savvy would go a long long way here folks.
Except emacs is an editor that wants to be an OS.
The UNIX model is to have small managable programs that work together form a larger system.
The EMACS model (which Mozilla follows) is to assume that one should never leave this wondrous application. Therefore, this application should do everything.
http://oeone.com/products/screenshots.html
My personal favorites are the Calendar & "my page" shots.
First, as others have mentioned, the "homebase" system is just xul, meaning that it is the same layer as the browser. In addition, Mozilla does not have to call gnome/kde, and it can run without a window manager, as it is its own environment. So basically you have as much overhead as running KDE or GNOME.
This will not be faster than KDE or GNOME. It will be simpler because it will have a consistent user interface with interactivity between applications at the forefront. You can easily use this system as a standalone web terminal without the use for any other apps.
Therefore, it's better than other solutions when these are your requirements.
OK, everyone knows of the X-box Linux Project and the anonymous donor with the award of award at total of US$ 200,000 for a simple and completely legal way to run Linux on the Microsoft Xbox.
If you connect that story and this story about OEOne desktop, do you start to see a picture?
Now cross this idea with the comments from the NewsForge article about how OEOne and video4linux could act like a Tivo like system!
I'm starting to see a CD you put into your xbox that will start a complete internet-ready desktop that interacts with the local hard-drive or remote servers to store info and can also act as a Tivo, mp3 player etc etc etc.
Anyone else starting to think that CEO of OEOne Eid Eid is the anonymous donor?
After seeing some of the geneology sites, he got a bit interested. This is a typical example of what I could recommend. It's rather specific, stable and can be remotely administered (given that I set up a proper firewall to shield him as much as possible from portscans from other people than me).
Stop the brainwash
This looks and seems absolutly fantastic. Now if only they would release a version that runs atop RH 7.3
so who's gonna throw together an rh 7.2 usermode linux root file system with this thing? should be pretty easy to do. that'd allow people to look at it without the pain an install might cause if you don't have a box to spare at the moment. i'm thinking my girlfriend might like this. i might just do it myself when i get a chance. but work's a tad busy these days.
Unfortunately it doesn't support tables, which makes it not very useful. Table support is promised though, I hear. Interestingly, if I import a Word document, edit it in Abiword, then save it back out to a .doc file... Word reads it in perfectly, formatting and all, but the file size is now less then 50% of what it was before! Obviously Word does to text what Frontpage does to HTML...
Phillip.
Right, AOL isn't developing Mozilla the browser, AOL is developing Mozilla the application development framework.
So much time has been invested in making Mozilla into such a framework that it would be naive to think AOL just wants a good browser to replace IE with. There are much more interesting, and far more elaborate uses for Mozilla that AOL can use in its fight against MS.
I'm trying to get a system for my mother to use. She is 64 and a grandmother of three and not at all interested in computers other than to use them for web, email & occational documents. HomeBase is, IMNSHO, the perfict GUI for someone like her.
There's been a number of reviews/articles in the "My (grand)mother can now run Linux" but none of them take the view of the (grand)mother. They all look at the issue from the techie's POV. If I can get a system for my mom I think I'll try and write a review like that.
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If I actually could spell I'd have spelled it right in the first place.
This is something like what Novell seems to be doing with Netware 6: a web-based interface to a networked environment. Although their focus seems to be more broad than that, the premise seems to be the same: access to computing resources from any platform, anywhere using a web-based standard interface.
To me, stuff like this is the most significant innovation in networking technology that i've seen in years.
-- Jim
They really pay attention to details, I'll give them that. Before I even install the software I have already encountered several examples of Good Thinking.
:-) Even though I personally would have named it "Tuxilla."
#1: This is their installer: $ lynx -source http://install.oeone.com/ |sh
This trick has been around for a while (I use it myself) but it's good to see a commercial developer paying attention to tricks of the trade. No need to explain to people how to use the command line to run an installer, just paste, please.
#2: CVS pserver. Once again, commercial developer paying attention.
Now, I give them a strike for providing a RedHat-only installation. A binary tarball would have been fine. But...
#3: The source code hasn't just been dumped on the net with a little "here ya go, knock yerselves out" message. They've taken the time to explain how things work and even provided hints for Going Debian.
#4: Their mascot doesn't suck.
It's rare that you're presented with a knob whose only two positions are Make History and Flee Your Glorious Destiny.
I mean, I cannot download it, build it and run - the only way to run HomeBase is to buy it. Is it correct?
If it is not Open Source - why to bother if I have most of it in GNOME v2 Evolution?
If it is Open Source - where is the link to download the tarball with the buildable source code?
Less is more !
Kids these days... I wrote thousands of lines of code on these.
We did, dammit!
Wolfe.
Overall, not bad. I am currently debating on reinstalling Deb 3.0 or fixing the sound card issue. Either way, this is kind of cool and will make you cringe at your current desktop layout and integration.
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