The problem is the usual where the hell did it go, unless you control the destinations it can get splattered all over the place. The problem with rpm is that it assumes a directory structure that is usually different from distro to distro. My perl install on Slackware has different destination requirements, I never use Slacks rpm anyway.
This is the essential problem with make also. It is getting too hard to keep track of all the destination and dependancy differences that are happening. CPAN is a great solution for perl but can cause diffs also if the perl is written with strange directory paths to c extention libs. No different than a./configure really. Just slightly less frustrating, having to do a lib hunt all the time. "I know it is there but where the hell did it go" With make for gcc I have seen code that no doubt only works well as a binary on one set of computers, the guys who wrote it, because there are so many path differences for the user to./configure. I hope the same thing does not start happening with perl scripts. Was there not some unix shell function called tree? I believe that could printf the structure of source so you could more easily work in a C shell a long time ago. Guess I had better crack some books again. I might wind up doing a SCO McBride and smoke' something else if I start losing track of perl libs.
I got your point my point is that putting a proprietary control ident chip on the battery is not necessary. The older nokia 918s did not. I just took one appart. A simple diode and resistor load signal circuit is all that is needed, not numbered fritz chip style battery ident control function! This rush to use proprietary controls with embeded chips sucks and in this case is stupid and dangerous. If this control device on the phone portion of the device causes the unidentified battery to discharge too fast, as some have come to believe then that is deliberate sabotage of the device. If Nokia and other companies are pulling shit like this then they deserve to be sued by users that get burned. Afterall CAVEAT EMPTOR tactics is piss poor business practice in the long run, just ask the Romans.
wrapped up in an installer that R eads P rogrammers M inds. HOW WONDERFULLY SUBLIME
I just took an old one apart. for the hell of it.
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Just as an exercise in curiosity I took apart an old 1997 Nokia 918 nicad battery There are no chips in the design. Funny the thing I got out when some of the other guys using newer lion powered shit couldn't. I used to work isolated in the North of BC and that old Nokia was great hands down it beat the newer models. My conclusion is, on this model the cell phone controls the charge and there is no way for it to tell between batteries unless the wiring and simple component values are completely wrong. The circuit is just a resistor and diode design and would be no problem to clone safely at all. I cannot speak for the newer lion high power user hyped out mega watt shit though.
So now they might very well be using control chips on the battery that talk back to the charging chips on the phone itself. This makes a lot of sense if you want to screw the users into having to use your battery or risk catastrophic failures.
I see why my last post on this topic was moded down info smear alert on./ We have to confirm this about cell phone design. To deliberately sabotage another legal product and create a fire hazard is criminal neglegance causing bodily harm in just about any juristiction I know. Regardless of consumer warnings. Unless you are GM then exploding Chevy pickup trucks is excusable, or Ford Pinto etc, etc, etc. You can bet the cell phone manufacturers will get away with it. Oh well what the hell business sense is there in having a social consious anymore. I think I will go into the firearms manufacturing business, or better still tobacco, or MS software dev, at least then no one will accuse me of hypocrasy. CAVEAT EMPTOR the new Republican buzz word.
Just like ink jet printers cartrage suicide chip!
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'Do not use non proprietary hardware we have ways to get even!' When will this 'by using non-proprietary hardware overcharging shit hit the fan'. Someone is going to get seriously hurt by this manufacturing sabotage bullshit. Then who do you sue the cell phone manufacture for sabotaging the battery or the company that tried to create a compatable product. I have boycotted proprietary hardware/software and hope we responsible/.ers can start something like a ANTI DELIBERATE INCOMPATABILITY PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE and HARDWARE INFORMATION TRANSFER SITE or (AntiDIP-SHITS) to increase consumer awareness about this kind of bullshit. Ralph Nader on steroids. The sooner the better.
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No you are absolutely correct the braindead hardware devices are just peachy creamy warm and kuddly. Well guess the.... why;
Because if manufactures did offer easy interface to OSS coders for "cancerous" software like Linux, MS would quickly make the offending hardware partner pay for the deed. Just try getting tech specs to write OSS drivers. GOOD LUCK there are OSS people all over the world trapping signals from stupid versions of essentially the same device interfaces to get a 1. clue how to code for the device first, 2. reverse engineer a simple driver module that can slowly be tested and extended till you have a working driver.
Complain about Linux drivers all you want. We know better. The companies that change the driver interface with every release of a product that includes no changes in actual hardware function, are just forced by MS to use modified chip access function paths so that OSS cannot catch up with the driver releases. Yes it is a monopoly dictating to 'hardware partners' it will stop when users get pissed at the costs associated with this bullshit.
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Keeping the source closed only helps MS take over more of the communication world. "What are we doing today BILLY BRAIN.....Writing a new closed source version of our Windows O$ of course Binky!" How the hell can companies like MS make a living if they cannot clone things like Unix code and then make all of their added IP proprietary? Just think they have had one hell of a time replacing their hotmail servers with an NT clone so the chances are that they really are trying to go it alone with NT4,5,6 just by trying to impliment cloned unix functions. You notice that they dropped the name NT in one hell of a hurry, for things like XP and 2000, 2003. This is logical as they want people to feel like everything is fresh and new. Social engineering tech speak. So the OS2 experience taught them the importance of getting rid of Unix like versioning for public consumption. i have a copy of OS2 right here really funny how it sure looks and works like an early NT crash test dummy multi-tasking OS version of Windows. Wish I could see the source to both and do a diff on that and early Unix source. It sure would explain their rush to get a license from SCO. I hope this rush to IP lawsuit crap sinks the whole monopolised closed source crooked ship! It has too many memory leaks, pirates and is starting to rot under its own weight. Time to scuttle it.
Some one said why has no one blaimed MS yet, Check this out it is from the product upgrade info from Netgears support page; Explanation: FR114P Firmware version 1.3 (Release 16). New Certifications:
* Adds logging and firewall enhancements. This release version has been certified against version 4.0 of the ICSA Labs Firewall Certification Criteria.
New Features Overview: Basic Configuration
* Telstra BPA and Austria PPTP login support Security
* Keyword blocking now applies to newsgroup names
Previously only checked URLs for keywords. Now checks newsgroup names, too.
* (Wireless only) Able to turn off bridging between the wireless and wired local networks
* Added Syslog for sending log entries to a syslog server
* Improved logging Advanced
* Can turn off the print server
Modifications and Bug Fixes:
1. Fixed: dropping of TCP sessions.
2. Fixed: dropping of Windows Terminal Server sessions.
3. Fixed: traceroute passthrough.
4. Add idle time in PPPoE s basic page (also change help file)
5. Enable Dial on demand (in status page) && set idle=0 means keep alive.
6. Fixed: Add Reserved IP will show wrong MAC
7. Fixed: can Upgrade Firmware when the file path has.
8. Fixed: Dyndns memory issue.
Known Issues:
* Dial-on-demand may not work with Austria PPTP service.
* If Print Server does not function after upgrade:
1. Go to LANIP menu
2. Disable Print Server
3. Click Apply
4. Enable Print Server
5. Click Apply
Upgrading to the New Software: You can upgrade by using the web interface Router Upgrade menu.
1. Open the browser (Internet Explorer or Netscape)
2. Access the router (usually http://192.168.0.1)
3. Login to the router (User Name = admin Password = password unless you have changed it)
4. Under Maintenance, click Router Upgrade
5. Click Browse and locate the upgrade file
6. Click Upload
7. Wait for the router to reboot
Note: NETGEAR strongly recommends that you clear the configuration after upgrading, using the default button on the rear panel, and re -enter your configuration information. Please write down all of your configuration information before upgrading. Download: Click on the following link to begin download fr114p_1316.zip FileName: fr114p_1316.zip FileSize: 437 KB Version: 1.3 (Release 16), ICSA certified Date: April 20, 2003
With updates that are that simple you can bet sysadmins don't bother to look! It is all clear now upgrading firmware is sooooo difficult....NOT I just hope for the sake of ease of (use by poor stupid users) you guys don't screw up the most important side of the net. UNIVERSITIES and BUSINESS networks. I sure hope netgear has the sense to make the upgrade that fixes crap like this readily known to all the servers running this device! Even most pimple faced MS sysadmins could easily do this upgrade. Netgear should be forced do Tech TV, and journal adverts, and e-mail outs to help fix this shit. Same goes for MS who now gets the upgrade/patch publicity for free. They should be made to pay for the publicity for a change rather than having the news people do it for them! What am I saying TECH TV is in cahoots with MSNBC anyway! endrant
"McBride: Actually, that was more aimed at the GPL, not open source as a whole. There's a lot of very valuable effort in open source. But the extreme interpretation that nobody himself owns anything that he developed himself, that can't remain like this. With this, created value gets destroyed. The GPL must change or it will not survive in the long run. I have discussed with many exponents of the open source side about this already."
So the SCO/Novell licence to IBM and all the other Unix developers and manufactures removes their rights to in house IP perminently and transfers it to SCO. I think the SCO license might get struck down on this basis. That is not how things work in any other field of developement, why make an exception for software? If I modify a physical product then agree to market that modified product and pay a royalty to the original first, I still have the right to apply my own modifications to other proprietary products under different terms and market both. This is just the nature of manufacturing never tie yourself to one supplier of raw materials unless you are a subsiduary and enjoy exclusives. In the case of IBM they learned this lesson with MS eating their lunch.
MS lookout you are about to be blindsided as your CITRIX and other custom site server licensees might eat you up if the SCO license is deemed to be illegal.
Simple us poor suckers that keep a zero threshold need some temporary protection against the idiots that are doing a number on the bsd posts. It is getting to be a pain in the ass that the good people who contribute to good old bsd have to put up with more than a fair share of bullshit. If you do not agree with that then use hot mail and suffer the consequences when MS tries to migrate the server to 2003 again. Freebsd, and other bsd varients and the community that write for it are GOD DAMN important to OSS, linux and the future of internet communication. OSX for Apple would not exist without it and Microsoft would have squat left to reverse engineer, or clone. Just think MS would then have to be innovative, a f'in impossibility!
Just think we can slip rfid into all SSN cards. Great, then have government employees war driving around doing a kind of wild life inventory. Welcome to 1984. Microsoft SECURE computing and total control of the population. Who cares about Charleton Heston, guns and other NRA nonsense. Freedom has become meaningless, if the Government no longer reflects the will of the people, then starts to take measures to monitor all individuals movement. Somehow I cannot see any American government going quite that far without very strict privacy legislation to make this sort of technology sensible. If we do not strictly regulate all usage of this tech there will be abuse. It is too much of a temptation for the control freak bureaucrats who hide behind the sceens and survive changes in polititions (J. Edgar types) to resist!
Thanks for the info I do treat Slackware as a disposable OS install, I guess I have gotten too good at installing and configurating OSs. Come to mention it I once did get an email with an.exe that I was suspicious of so I checked it out in Wine rather than MS. Funny as hell it crashed my X server in Redhat 8! I checked to see if it had done anything else to the kernel but the diff came up clean so that was not the reason. Turned out it just made a funny call to the X server that caused a crash. I use e-mail for just that and nothing else, I know better. Yes I do keep Slackware up with the latest patches, but I do not worry as my inet logs tell me if there is any unusual shit going on. It is sure nice to take a pico at my pinging ports wonderland logs without using X first. Thats why I dumped Redhat, I never just boot into X!
I could not agree with you more. If I were a good coder I would help, my level is not that good yet. I have just started into assembly and have only limited C skills. I am taking the long way around and going against the book where it says learn C first, "assembly is only for core coders that can read and write OS functional C"! Perhaps taking an old style procedure approach is more my cup of tea anyway I have always had trouble with C forks and calls to extentions! Maybe fairly soon I will be able to help with some simple routines that others can extend and use. Kind of what do you want to do approach instead of what lib do you need to link to so that it might work. A slow but sure way to do simple things one at a time. Maybe I might make a good sales and install person and be very good at marketing reactos if it flies. I really like the idea, problem is how long before MS pulls a SCO on you guys! Those turkeys would most likely include a government backed cease and desist order if they think you are cloning their patented business UI features and OS interface routines. It might take years to fight them, and money that no one has. They can sue people and get away with it because they do not care if someone sues them for IP theft, make enough noise and they just payoff.
I have the feeling talking to the store sales people that the Longhorn launch is going to make televised version of Appolo 11 look like an episode of the Jetsons. The MS advert and promotion budget would make most third world countries US aid indepenant. MS is betting the farm on SECURE COMPUTING and Longhorn we can only hope that the business consumer has had enough of their bread and circuses software act. The only way that they can show sales growth to the share holders is to screw over the existing MS users big time this time around. Which is why they are not even bothering to support interoperability with older versions or making a fuss about whats happening yet. The Longhorn release is designed to make everybody feel left out, and insecure. The fact that soBig and blaster came out now only enhances their position amongst their loyal users and they will welcome MS secure computing with open arms and credit card in hand. If I am not mistaken other similar security scares happened just about the release time of the much touted MORE SECURE MORE RELIABLE MORE EVERTHING release of XP. Can you fly yet?
Upon further investigation of these glaring linux security holes; 1. to do an escalated privilege attack you need to not know that there is a user logged in remotely. 2. you have to be stupid enough to set your ifconfig to alow remote users to log on, and be stupid enough to install a trojan on your system and does a keystroke log then sends it out to the attacker and hides all the tracks. Something which takes a real unix guru to create, and is on the level of a mad genius. Not just some VIS BASIC cut and paste code script kiddie that downloads virus warez kit from a friend. Not that mad dissafected Unix gurus do not exist but they are quite rare in the Linux. These trojans are few and far between and are picked up and shut out by the linux community very fast. They are trojans not viruses.
3. this sort of advanced attack cannot happen with windows software because you have to be administrator to install shit to the registry. RIGHT and every soBigf infected computer is running as administrator?
Any OS that alows root (administrator) to be hacked from a visable hash table is security junkware. With windowsxp it is a simple as a script which will trigger esc-p, do not know if anybody has written an effective escape macro yet but like 'fdisk/mbr' it will get out of the bag. Security through obscure secrets is just plain stupid and MS has got to learn this. That is why I refuse to run anything past win98 or NT4, if it gets trashed who gives a shit. Just reinstall my complete clean backup and run it till the next big windows scare. I am not going to pay for insecure junkware I only use Linux for e-mail and I hose and clean my windows C partition whenever they get covered in bug shit! Symantec and MS can go to hell.
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Some dork, obviously an ex-freebsd disgruntled lame wounded spammer is managing to get around the multiple post of the same shit lameness filter. So it is time to make the lameness filter a little tougher to get around. The moron will tip off the MS sponsored GNAA people and bingo some idiot will write a script that will take down/. Time for affirmative action against scripted bot posts. Make a longer interval on post acceptance and a diff with the last post blocker. Then start kicking the users off that do that kind of shit until they are willing to send e-mail appologies to the/. gods before they are permited to post from a given location again!
I usually do not call to mod up anons but well put. I totally agree, we need to use open source without silly treats of violations of terms of use. Business people hesitate to use open source not because they do not know about it but they do not know how to pay for it!
My wife is forced to use MS software at work. I am forced to have an install of MS software at home as a consequence. My wife will not use OSS because it takes some skill to use the right file formats to do work and there are differences in the UI. This is not because she is a stupid MS user on the contrary. Proprietary file formats are a pain in the ass. If I could get her to use OSS I would dump the bloated insecure MS Office mail interface in a heart beat. Unfortunately I just have to dissable all the stupid MS default settings, like auto address book addition of people I reply to. Along with other security features like dump internet cash on exit I have managed to keep things clean. I have only had to win32 XXCOPY my clean software backup copy of my C drive once in the past 3 years. I refuse to pay a yearly ransom to Symantec anymore! I find that paying someone else a yearly ransom to secure your system and do maintenance is a real piss off! So as to if it is an MS problem, I think so until they completely change the nature of how their programs work I will not send them another cent of our hard earned cash!
Yes I run Win 98se and am as secure as you are also. Mind you I can use regedit, msconfig and lots of other tools to get rid of the shit on my system without even running symantec products. I even keep a clean install of windows and all the software on an old third harddrive and use XXCOPY the win32 long file name version of XCOPY to restore my C drive in a pinch. So yes I am a little more advanced than most windows users, however I would say that certain installs of Mandrake are just as easy to use as Windows. I use Slackware so I am a little bit beyond that level. WinXP has the problem of hash exposed passwords though so I do not like it, might just as well run 98 it is just as secure! Ms is talking security tuff guy but the reality is they have spent squat on their os security dev in the past few years, they are counting on processor certificates to bail their ass out.
A house divided cannot stand. Publicity like this is just the medication Microsoft needs to overcome the shit they have created with security lately. I hope that Linux distros can find a way to overcome this rediculous counter-productive in fighting that the media and SCO is trying to stir. I note that MSNBC/ TECH TV are trying their best to look unattached. Even though you can bet that Leo L will not be too silent on these issues. Bet he comes back with the usual "Linux is not quite ready for the desktop" garbage and tows the MS line! GNU and Linux has suffered from this rush to divide. Lets not help MS with this hatchet job by providing more fuel for the fire!
"insipid idiot" set value to true. I am the first to admit it. However I am very pissed that we are forced to use MS products. Then as a consequence suffer the stupidity of other MS users. The fault is with treating others as if they are stupid. A very common asshole/. trait as well as a microsoft software feature.
talking to oneself is frequently the only way to carry on an intelligent conversation on/.
How can you get a virus to function in an email with an executable under linux, then make changes to the kernel so that it will do MS style do not ask the user first shit. Not possible, the virus would need the stupid user to switch to root, then do a gcc and then make, then install, recompile the kernel all by itself. No go charlie, it would be one hell of a big trojan and would quickly be identified by linux users world wide. (Which has already happened check symantec for Linux worms) You do not get E-mail viruses in linux you can get a trojan but the program sig is blocked out by the next check file list created for linux distros. Try learning linux the difference will make you appreciate how stupid the MS UI and OS really is.
Someone should come up with an opensource bones ware solution for business apps. Mysql is a start and the kde gui framework is good. However Qt c++ is a little too difficult for the ms average designer to grep and to do diff changes and causes coders to baulk at the changes. What about a bonesware mysql gui that can just customise the entry fields and function links? This is exactly what MS based software companies make millions setting up. Citrix servers using custom intranet stuff is the real dollar market. Unfortunately there is very little happening in this respect with Linux yet because the software writers are afraid that they will not make gobs and gobs of money unless they code proprietary. When the non proprietary OSS tools can be used to easily create site specific stuff then this situation will finally start to change. More than the Inet server market will use OSS. Then companies like 3m will start to wake up. The story about Ernie Ball is very relavent and shows that it can be done I am sure that once the Microsoft fud about open source is debunked it will happen big time.
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This is the essential problem with make also. It is getting too hard to keep track of all the destination and dependancy differences that are happening. CPAN is a great solution for perl but can cause diffs also if the perl is written with strange directory paths to c extention libs. No different than a ./configure really. Just slightly less frustrating, having to do a lib hunt all the time. "I know it is there but where the hell did it go" With make for gcc I have seen code that no doubt only works well as a binary on one set of computers, the guys who wrote it, because there are so many path differences for the user to ./configure. I hope the same thing does not start happening with perl scripts. Was there not some unix shell function called tree? I believe that could printf the structure of source so you could more easily work in a C shell a long time ago. Guess I had better crack some books again. I might wind up doing a SCO McBride and smoke' something else if I start losing track of perl libs.
I got your point my point is that putting a proprietary control ident chip on the battery is not necessary. The older nokia 918s did not. I just took one appart. A simple diode and resistor load signal circuit is all that is needed, not numbered fritz chip style battery ident control function! This rush to use proprietary controls with embeded chips sucks and in this case is stupid and dangerous. If this control device on the phone portion of the device causes the unidentified battery to discharge too fast, as some have come to believe then that is deliberate sabotage of the device. If Nokia and other companies are pulling shit like this then they deserve to be sued by users that get burned. Afterall CAVEAT EMPTOR tactics is piss poor business practice in the long run, just ask the Romans.
wrapped up in an installer that R eads P rogrammers M inds. HOW WONDERFULLY SUBLIME
Just as an exercise in curiosity I took apart an old 1997 Nokia 918 nicad battery There are no chips in the design. Funny the thing I got out when some of the other guys using newer lion powered shit couldn't. I used to work isolated in the North of BC and that old Nokia was great hands down it beat the newer models. My conclusion is, on this model the cell phone controls the charge and there is no way for it to tell between batteries unless the wiring and simple component values are completely wrong. The circuit is just a resistor and diode design and would be no problem to clone safely at all. I cannot speak for the newer lion high power user hyped out mega watt shit though.
So now they might very well be using control chips on the battery that talk back to the charging chips on the phone itself. This makes a lot of sense if you want to screw the users into having to use your battery or risk catastrophic failures.
I see why my last post on this topic was moded down info smear alert on ./ We have to confirm this about cell phone design. To deliberately sabotage another legal product and create a fire hazard is criminal neglegance causing bodily harm in just about any juristiction I know. Regardless of consumer warnings. Unless you are GM then exploding Chevy pickup trucks is excusable, or Ford Pinto etc, etc, etc. You can bet the cell phone manufacturers will get away with it. Oh well what the hell business sense is there in having a social consious anymore. I think I will go into the firearms manufacturing business, or better still tobacco, or MS software dev, at least then no one will accuse me of hypocrasy. CAVEAT EMPTOR the new Republican buzz word.
'Do not use non proprietary hardware we have ways to get even!' When will this 'by using non-proprietary hardware overcharging shit hit the fan'. Someone is going to get seriously hurt by this manufacturing sabotage bullshit. Then who do you sue the cell phone manufacture for sabotaging the battery or the company that tried to create a compatable product. I have boycotted proprietary hardware/software and hope we responsible /.ers can start something like a ANTI DELIBERATE INCOMPATABILITY PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE and HARDWARE INFORMATION TRANSFER SITE or (AntiDIP-SHITS) to increase consumer awareness about this kind of bullshit. Ralph Nader on steroids. The sooner the better.
Complain about Linux drivers all you want. We know better. The companies that change the driver interface with every release of a product that includes no changes in actual hardware function, are just forced by MS to use modified chip access function paths so that OSS cannot catch up with the driver releases. Yes it is a monopoly dictating to 'hardware partners' it will stop when users get pissed at the costs associated with this bullshit. endrant
Keeping the source closed only helps MS take over more of the communication world. "What are we doing today BILLY BRAIN.....Writing a new closed source version of our Windows O$ of course Binky!"
How the hell can companies like MS make a living if they cannot clone things like Unix code and then make all of their added IP proprietary? Just think they have had one hell of a time replacing their hotmail servers with an NT clone so the chances are that they really are trying to go it alone with NT4,5,6 just by trying to impliment cloned unix functions. You notice that they dropped the name NT in one hell of a hurry, for things like XP and 2000, 2003. This is logical as they want people to feel like everything is fresh and new. Social engineering tech speak. So the OS2 experience taught them the importance of getting rid of Unix like versioning for public consumption. i have a copy of OS2 right here really funny how it sure looks and works like an early NT crash test dummy multi-tasking OS version of Windows. Wish I could see the source to both and do a diff on that and early Unix source. It sure would explain their rush to get a license from SCO. I hope this rush to IP lawsuit crap sinks the whole monopolised closed source crooked ship! It has too many memory leaks, pirates and is starting to rot under its own weight. Time to scuttle it.
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Some one said why has no one blaimed MS yet,
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Check this out it is from the product upgrade info from Netgears support page;
Explanation:
FR114P Firmware version 1.3 (Release 16).
New Certifications:
* Adds logging and firewall enhancements. This release version has been certified against version 4.0 of the ICSA Labs Firewall Certification Criteria.
New Features Overview:
Basic Configuration
* Telstra BPA and Austria PPTP login support
Security
* Keyword blocking now applies to newsgroup names
Previously only checked URLs for keywords. Now checks newsgroup names, too.
* (Wireless only) Able to turn off bridging between the wireless and wired local networks
* Added Syslog for sending log entries to a syslog server
* Improved logging
Advanced
* Can turn off the print server
Modifications and Bug Fixes:
1. Fixed: dropping of TCP sessions.
2. Fixed: dropping of Windows Terminal Server sessions.
3. Fixed: traceroute passthrough.
4. Add idle time in PPPoE s basic page (also change help file)
5. Enable Dial on demand (in status page) && set idle=0 means keep alive.
6. Fixed: Add Reserved IP will show wrong MAC
7. Fixed: can Upgrade Firmware when the file path has
8. Fixed: Dyndns memory issue.
Known Issues:
* Dial-on-demand may not work with Austria PPTP service.
* If Print Server does not function after upgrade:
1. Go to LANIP menu
2. Disable Print Server
3. Click Apply
4. Enable Print Server
5. Click Apply
Upgrading to the New Software:
You can upgrade by using the web interface Router Upgrade menu.
1. Open the browser (Internet Explorer or Netscape)
2. Access the router (usually http://192.168.0.1)
3. Login to the router (User Name = admin Password = password unless you have changed it)
4. Under Maintenance, click Router Upgrade
5. Click Browse and locate the upgrade file
6. Click Upload
7. Wait for the router to reboot
Note:
NETGEAR strongly recommends that you clear the configuration after upgrading, using the default button on the rear panel, and re -enter your configuration information. Please write down all of your configuration information before upgrading.
Download:
Click on the following link to begin download
fr114p_1316.zip
FileName: fr114p_1316.zip
FileSize: 437 KB
Version: 1.3 (Release 16), ICSA certified
Date: April 20, 2003
With updates that are that simple you can bet sysadmins don't bother to look! It is all clear now upgrading firmware is sooooo difficult....NOT I just hope for the sake of ease of (use by poor stupid users) you guys don't screw up the most important side of the net. UNIVERSITIES and BUSINESS networks. I sure hope netgear has the sense to make the upgrade that fixes crap like this readily known to all the servers running this device! Even most pimple faced MS sysadmins could easily do this upgrade. Netgear should be forced do Tech TV, and journal adverts, and e-mail outs to help fix this shit. Same goes for MS who now gets the upgrade/patch publicity for free. They should be made to pay for the publicity for a change rather than having the news people do it for them! What am I saying TECH TV is in cahoots with MSNBC anyway!
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"McBride: Actually, that was more aimed at the GPL, not open source as a whole. There's a lot of very valuable effort in open source. But the extreme interpretation that nobody himself owns anything that he developed himself, that can't remain like this. With this, created value gets destroyed. The GPL must change or it will not survive in the long run. I have discussed with many exponents of the open source side about this already."
So the SCO/Novell licence to IBM and all the other Unix developers and manufactures removes their rights to in house IP perminently and transfers it to SCO. I think the SCO license might get struck down on this basis. That is not how things work in any other field of developement, why make an exception for software? If I modify a physical product then agree to market that modified product and pay a royalty to the original first, I still have the right to apply my own modifications to other proprietary products under different terms and market both. This is just the nature of manufacturing never tie yourself to one supplier of raw materials unless you are a subsiduary and enjoy exclusives. In the case of IBM they learned this lesson with MS eating their lunch.
MS lookout you are about to be blindsided as your CITRIX and other custom site server licensees might eat you up if the SCO license is deemed to be illegal.
Simple us poor suckers that keep a zero threshold need some temporary protection against the idiots that are doing a number on the bsd posts. It is getting to be a pain in the ass that the good people who contribute to good old bsd have to put up with more than a fair share of bullshit. If you do not agree with that then use hot mail and suffer the consequences when MS tries to migrate the server to 2003 again. Freebsd, and other bsd varients and the community that write for it are GOD DAMN important to OSS, linux and the future of internet communication. OSX for Apple would not exist without it and Microsoft would have squat left to reverse engineer, or clone. Just think MS would then have to be innovative, a f'in impossibility!
Just think we can slip rfid into all SSN cards. Great, then have government employees war driving around doing a kind of wild life inventory. Welcome to 1984. Microsoft SECURE computing and total control of the population. Who cares about Charleton Heston, guns and other NRA nonsense. Freedom has become meaningless, if the Government no longer reflects the will of the people, then starts to take measures to monitor all individuals movement. Somehow I cannot see any American government going quite that far without very strict privacy legislation to make this sort of technology sensible. If we do not strictly regulate all usage of this tech there will be abuse. It is too much of a temptation for the control freak bureaucrats who hide behind the sceens and survive changes in polititions (J. Edgar types) to resist!
Thanks for the info I do treat Slackware as a disposable OS install, I guess I have gotten too good at installing and configurating OSs. Come to mention it I once did get an email with an .exe that I was suspicious of so I checked it out in Wine rather than MS. Funny as hell it crashed my X server in Redhat 8! I checked to see if it had done anything else to the kernel but the diff came up clean so that was not the reason. Turned out it just made a funny call to the X server that caused a crash. I use e-mail for just that and nothing else, I know better. Yes I do keep Slackware up with the latest patches, but I do not worry as my inet logs tell me if there is any unusual shit going on. It is sure nice to take a pico at my pinging ports wonderland logs without using X first. Thats why I dumped Redhat, I never just boot into X!
I could not agree with you more. If I were a good coder I would help, my level is not that good yet. I have just started into assembly and have only limited C skills. I am taking the long way around and going against the book where it says learn C first, "assembly is only for core coders that can read and write OS functional C"! Perhaps taking an old style procedure approach is more my cup of tea anyway I have always had trouble with C forks and calls to extentions!
Maybe fairly soon I will be able to help with some simple routines that others can extend and use. Kind of what do you want to do approach instead of what lib do you need to link to so that it might work. A slow but sure way to do simple things one at a time. Maybe I might make a good sales and install person and be very good at marketing reactos if it flies. I really like the idea, problem is how long before MS pulls a SCO on you guys! Those turkeys would most likely include a government backed cease and desist order if they think you are cloning their patented business UI features and OS interface routines. It might take years to fight them, and money that no one has. They can sue people and get away with it because they do not care if someone sues them for IP theft, make enough noise and they just payoff.
I have the feeling talking to the store sales people that the Longhorn launch is going to make televised version of Appolo 11 look like an episode of the Jetsons. The MS advert and promotion budget would make most third world countries US aid indepenant. MS is betting the farm on SECURE COMPUTING and Longhorn we can only hope that the business consumer has had enough of their bread and circuses software act. The only way that they can show sales growth to the share holders is to screw over the existing MS users big time this time around. Which is why they are not even bothering to support interoperability with older versions or making a fuss about whats happening yet. The Longhorn release is designed to make everybody feel left out, and insecure. The fact that soBig and blaster came out now only enhances their position amongst their loyal users and they will welcome MS secure computing with open arms and credit card in hand. If I am not mistaken other similar security scares happened just about the release time of the much touted MORE SECURE MORE RELIABLE MORE EVERTHING release of XP. Can you fly yet?
Any OS that alows root (administrator) to be hacked from a visable hash table is security junkware. With windowsxp it is a simple as a script which will trigger esc-p, do not know if anybody has written an effective escape macro yet but like 'fdisk /mbr' it will get out of the bag. Security through obscure secrets is just plain stupid and MS has got to learn this. That is why I refuse to run anything past win98 or NT4, if it gets trashed who gives a shit. Just reinstall my complete clean backup and run it till the next big windows scare. I am not going to pay for insecure junkware I only use Linux for e-mail and I hose and clean my windows C partition whenever they get covered in bug shit! Symantec and MS can go to hell.
Some dork, obviously an ex-freebsd disgruntled lame wounded spammer is managing to get around the multiple post of the same shit lameness filter. So it is time to make the lameness filter a little tougher to get around. The moron will tip off the MS sponsored GNAA people and bingo some idiot will write a script that will take down /. Time for affirmative action against scripted bot posts. Make a longer interval on post acceptance and a diff with the last post blocker. Then start kicking the users off that do that kind of shit until they are willing to send e-mail appologies to the /. gods before they are permited to post from a given location again!
I usually do not call to mod up anons but well put. I totally agree, we need to use open source without silly treats of violations of terms of use. Business people hesitate to use open source not because they do not know about it but they do not know how to pay for it!
My wife is forced to use MS software at work. I am forced to have an install of MS software at home as a consequence. My wife will not use OSS because it takes some skill to use the right file formats to do work and there are differences in the UI. This is not because she is a stupid MS user on the contrary. Proprietary file formats are a pain in the ass. If I could get her to use OSS I would dump the bloated insecure MS Office mail interface in a heart beat. Unfortunately I just have to dissable all the stupid MS default settings, like auto address book addition of people I reply to. Along with other security features like dump internet cash on exit I have managed to keep things clean. I have only had to win32 XXCOPY my clean software backup copy of my C drive once in the past 3 years. I refuse to pay a yearly ransom to Symantec anymore! I find that paying someone else a yearly ransom to secure your system and do maintenance is a real piss off! So as to if it is an MS problem, I think so until they completely change the nature of how their programs work I will not send them another cent of our hard earned cash!
Yes I run Win 98se and am as secure as you are also.
Mind you I can use regedit, msconfig and lots of other tools to get rid of the shit on my system without even running symantec products. I even keep a clean install of windows and all the software on an old third harddrive and use XXCOPY the win32 long file name version of XCOPY to restore my C drive in a pinch. So yes I am a little more advanced than most windows users, however I would say that certain installs of Mandrake are just as easy to use as Windows. I use Slackware so I am a little bit beyond that level. WinXP has the problem of hash exposed passwords though so I do not like it, might just as well run 98 it is just as secure! Ms is talking security tuff guy but the reality is they have spent squat on their os security dev in the past few years, they are counting on processor certificates to bail their ass out.
A house divided cannot stand. Publicity like this is just the medication Microsoft needs to overcome the shit they have created with security lately. I hope that Linux distros can find a way to overcome this rediculous counter-productive in fighting that the media and SCO is trying to stir. I note that MSNBC/ TECH TV are trying their best to look unattached. Even though you can bet that Leo L will not be too silent on these issues. Bet he comes back with the usual "Linux is not quite ready for the desktop" garbage and tows the MS line! GNU and Linux has suffered from this rush to divide. Lets not help MS with this hatchet job by providing more fuel for the fire!
talking to oneself is frequently the only way to carry on an intelligent conversation on /.
How can you get a virus to function in an email with an executable under linux, then make changes to the kernel so that it will do MS style do not ask the user first shit. Not possible, the virus would need the stupid user to switch to root, then do a gcc and then make, then install, recompile the kernel all by itself. No go charlie, it would be one hell of a big trojan and would quickly be identified by linux users world wide. (Which has already happened check symantec for Linux worms) You do not get E-mail viruses in linux you can get a trojan but the program sig is blocked out by the next check file list created for linux distros. Try learning linux the difference will make you appreciate how stupid the MS UI and OS really is.
Someone should come up with an opensource bones ware solution for business apps. Mysql is a start and the kde gui framework is good. However Qt c++ is a little too difficult for the ms average designer to grep and to do diff changes and causes coders to baulk at the changes. What about a bonesware mysql gui that can just customise the entry fields and function links? This is exactly what MS based software companies make millions setting up. Citrix servers using custom intranet stuff is the real dollar market. Unfortunately there is very little happening in this respect with Linux yet because the software writers are afraid that they will not make gobs and gobs of money unless they code proprietary. When the non proprietary OSS tools can be used to easily create site specific stuff then this situation will finally start to change. More than the Inet server market will use OSS. Then companies like 3m will start to wake up. The story about Ernie Ball is very relavent and shows that it can be done I am sure that once the Microsoft fud about open source is debunked it will happen big time.