As soon as the secretaries find that they can access Hot Mail with a browser other than IE the VM ware will go away. I have a freind who cannot figure out that there is any other form of internet mail, other than hot mail. When he came over a while ago I had Linux booted and he wanted to show me some stuff someone had mailed him about guitar software. He couldn't believe it when I just pulled up his mail account he really believed you have to run windows IE to get hot mail! Such is the power of MS. I am supprised that MS has not screwed the xml source to block other browsers yet. I suppose if they do they might find some real opposition when people find out that the original ran on freeBSD, and even the coders in Redmond had a hell of a time getting it to work on NT/2000 based servers! Running an emu is the worst way to do things, especially if you want to run virtual nets, or networded linking applications. To create a virtual environment for OS system calls is stupid. I like a little cheese with my wine.
Could be that svg might reap benefits that could really be great for music notation given the right approach. The Recordare musicxml extentions could be used to quickly format music notation through a browser interface using rapid update through svg. Given that then the browser functions could be used along with other parts of the existing interface to speed up the notation gui the possibilities are intriguing. Not that it would replace true music notation software but it could become a very quick way for teachers to send music examples, composers send simple ideas to musicians , and more importantly generaly give those who are musically literate a chance to communicate on the net. There have been several java based designed for this purpose (one out ot the University of Toronto) called JscoreMl. It was not very good because the xml tech at the time was not very advanced. There is no reason why in future advanced xml interfaces won't be able to notate, and send music, right within a browser.
Only in America can a company be formed purely with a business plan based on litigation. The pantent act has become a business lawyers dream come true. Sco's Unix business model is obviously now in the same catagory. Good for you Australia! Too bad Canada, Americas largest trading partner, hasn't got the balls to stand up and say enough of this bullsquat. I am afraid that the country I love has become another spineless, leave sleaping dogs lie, puppet. The future of commerce and innovation is in jeopardy if we alow this rediculous sherade to continue.
You have hit at the crux of the matter. You buy a computer take it home turn it on. Oh shit the funny phone jack thing, Oh it tells me I got to plug in the phone to register my copy of winxp. Ok now I can get tech support wow was that easy.Dahh... Oh hell lets see if the internet works Oh I just click on this connect to the internet thingee click click. Oh shit I got to give it my info, well my wife can type...Honey type in all this stuff and we will get connected...no I don't give a damn who we connect with... Oh do you mean I can get my hot mail at home now honey.....etc etc etc
This is why Ms is where it is at, not because of software, but because they have the sucker system down in spades! They spam the hell out of suckers from day one.
Is it far fetched to give an AI bot the ability to test a new function? Could we take a bot and give it the ability to test program functions themselves? Hook this bot into an internet CVS data base and let it test code for functions. The bot could request code for speach synthesis, remote sensing interpretation of images, and all the other code requirements to develope a primitive awareness.
Perhaps the way to develope real AI is only possible when the AI creation can request code to enable functions. Strange but perhaps open source is the route to self aware AI. Flame me if you like but to lock down code might make real AI impossible.
It is possible to alow the bot to lock core code so that it will not self destruct, then if test routines cause problems the parent bot can decide to reject the code causing the problem.
An Ai bot that can program child processes itself based on sample test code might become possible, if we can teach bots to write code! Isaac Asimov and his rules of Robotics are starting to become very important indeed, his vision was as acute as that of Jules Vern.
Scale up Hot mail with MS servers and watch what happens. Same thing as last time. Bill and co runs out and buys a bunch of stuff to run more bsd servers. Hello MS servers are fine for in house business nets but on the net they suckzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! time out!
What a moronic concept no sound my butt, The sound of projectile reaching the speed of sound is noiseless? If you attach a sound buffering device, (silencer) the thing would require much more energy to reach the same muzzle velocity.
When you shoot something, It does not hear the sound first. What a concept. This toy is firing iron projectiles so accuracy will be dependant on wind, projectile balance,and stability.
In short it is useless as a sniper or hunting weapon and will remain so. It is obvious that few of the good readers on slashdot know squat about hunting either. You do not shoot unless you are going to kill with one shot any experienced game hunter will tell you that.Leave it to Americans to concieve of a second shot for hunting. In Canada we joke big time about sound shots made by dumb Yankies. No wonder the animal rights people are so set against hunting, Americans hunting deer with assalt rifles. What a concept.
All Americans are not that stupid it seems that is a majority situation though. Mod me down I am flaming you guys for being silly.
If I am reading this right all cisco Ipv4 could get whacked. Given that hubs use Cisco this is freaking serious! Come on Cisco fix it quick there are lots of people who will help. Do not do the old MS head in the sand crap!
During the 911 crisis I wonder what form of cell phone the passengers used to talk on the doomed flight where they rebelled against the terrorists. Are you guys brain dead, passengers talked to relatives on the ground, or is there in flight phones for passengers on some 767s?
Fear and Fud are the stock and trade of Microsoft. Not the Java people. The preceptions of open source being inferior are spread by MS salesmen, not programmers. Any tom, dick head and harry that gets certified in the.NET college mill is spoon fed this tripe by the MS trained instructors. The whole crux of the matter is that MS is out to control digital communication world wide. They have large interests in the Media, they are on the constant lookout to purchase digital rights to content. Did you know that Bill and Steve went on a shopping spree a long time back and proceeded to buy the digital reproduction rights to a huge chunk of the worlds great art from cash starved Galleries. Back then the Galleries did not realise what was going on and just took the cash. If we do not act in concert soon to break the monopoly we are in for an information dark age that will make Orwells 1984 look like a rainstorm at a Baptist Church picnic!
Mic supply dot com a company that I slashdotted a while ago is also starting a musician to musician service. They are rather forward thinking group. I am interested in the possibilities of a system that can send 24/96 originals (big files) between musicians It is another idea whose time is almost here. A music distribution system where you sell 24/96 to individuals who might want to burn 16 bit cds themselves, there are lots of small musical instrument stores all over the place who would like to do that sort of thing for discerning customers. New tech might help with secure file transfer p2p on a bigger pipe. Nothing pisses off the consumer more than the RIAA model of music distribution. I'm a classical guitarist and do play some things that are really hard to get recordings of, I know that there is room for all good musicians to start to record and distribute their own work. The revolution is here it is just waiting for the old system to die.
This is not a flame. The pop culture hero worship of the lovable bad guy is the crux of the situation. As long as there is a little bit of the thief in our sensibilities then this is what you will expect to happen. Copyright infrigement has now come under this social sensitivity.
No we cannot justify our need to steal, but it feels good to be a pirate and thumb our noses at those who get rich selling the candy we crave. The average Joe in Chicago during the depression gladly took hand out from Al Capone, and many looked up to him as a figure standing up against what everyone loved to hate, Government.
The problem is Government has become dissasociated from people. The media has taken advantage of this and regularly makes villains of polititions, cops, and anyone seen to be in authority. It is ironic that the very media who has made all the money making villains out of polititians is now running to them for protection from a wave of junk media and pop music pirates. "This situation will get out of hand and we will be lucky to live through it." Quote from the Hunt for Red October.
There is going to be a fundimental shift in media and entertainment. As it no longer becomes possible to sell cds to the craved audiance then some other venue will become more important. Music concerts where the stoned out, lighter waving audience makes almost as much noise as the band have just become a bore to music lovers. Real musicians and performers will rule the day again because they are the only ones that will be able to get anyone to actually listen.
holy cow a ghost post bsd can't be dead that anon dead idiot only took a matter of miniutes to reply. Sounds like a political war between people with gig egos, and axes to grind.
Not much but at the bottom of this post is the url of a very interesting other MS trundled OS. He has ported a linux application from the original Tandy OS. An historical views of how certain good companies got hosed is very important.
As to how many apps are available. That is a rediculous question obviously there is very little ported to the TRON OS especially hardware, Win modems etc, etc, etc. There has not been a GNU like structure there to fight the battle. And a battle it has been. So I am sure Tron has very little to offer the oss culture, except perhaps ideas that MS cannot get a software patents for, or if they have prior art rulings may overturn. You can bet MS has gone over TRON with a fine tooth comb decompiler already so if there are any ideas that have been cloned they most likely did not try to patent them. The amount of software for the good old tandy osx (and I do not mean os ten) is most likely enormous by comparison. For more info follow http://hometown.aol.com/knudsenmj/myhomepage/umuse lx.htm His page has good info about a similar dead OS. Just remember there is no space in the url ending/umuselx.htm wonder why I cannot post a hyperlink, How about that?
Your anon coward post sounds like one from 'Those who ingnore the past.' The pull of a company that can dictate the future of digital communication and through market manipulation control innovation is the whole problem. IBM is certainly not innocent of this sort of corporate despotism. History is littered with instances of little people with a Napolean complex, sad to say I feel the leadership of Microsoft has become another example. We are all capable of exibiting this kind of behaviour, so if there are no checks and balances like what happened to Standard Oil and Ma Bell then we are headed for an information dark age. All bow to Redmond. I am not looking to get moded up for this post I am only being realistic.
One hundred percent on target a greater voter turnout of upper income people is the reason. If you look at election stats it is because the upper middle class do not take time to vote that election turn outs are going down the pipes. The welfare and unemployed can voice their disgust too easily (except in Miami), they have time. Lets give that hardworking exec, and MSN using mom at home a way they can get away from the need to waste their time exercising the right.
So you are the guys who write.processor code so I have to keep adding ram all the time..processor languages like xml are really the invention of an evil computer marketing genuis. Who ever the SOB is, it is getting silly.
The trough is being filled election on horizon. Almost as bad as Chicago during the 60s, the constituancy of the Seattle area has become an area of special interest to the people who do the greasing. Lets see so far this year; Millitary software 800 million National Security 100 million , I guess they have screwed up with the aircraft industry though. Come on you guys you can do alot better than a puny 1 billion of voter grease. Ok lets see if we can stick it to the competition what was that about SCO? and what about those Germans buying Linux we will just have to see about that too. That will make them happier in Seattle.
I am suprised that AOL has not decided to take on MS in the place where they can become vulnerable. The computer market. The fact that MS is closed source makes it difficult to compete with any software. WordPerfect, Netscape Lotus123 etc etc all dead meat except to die hard IBMers. It also makes it much easier to code functions that the competitor has no access to, and hide the integration between OS and comunication software. Thus MSN can effectively do the same thing to AOL that IE did to Netscape shaft them to the nines. Which is essentially the.NET vision of microsoft.
Where MS becomes vulnerable is if cheap easy to use pre configed computers can offer everything and more, to the consumer. The only difficulty is the chip manufactures and how they are manipulated by MS. If AOL is about to fall then we are looking at a grim future, where you have no choice. God what am I saying it is already here. I am going to sell my toys, and by a G5 I have just about had enought of this MS bs.
" Microsoft/U.S. goverment used trade rules (Super 301) to block it adoption by schools in Japan"
If this statement is true then the implications are that MS really is out to control digital information and communications world wide. If the US state department has a hand in this kind of bull, then things are not rosy for the future linux and open source. Kind of makes you wonder which part of the world is actually "The Free World".
If this is true ignoring open source might make Orwells 1984 look like a rainstorm at a church picnic.
Nothing has hurt AOL sales more than MSN. When gullible consumers get the computer home from the store the first thing they do is use the gui that tells you how to sign up for MSN.
I have a friend who has a real isp but only uses Hot mail because it works with the only interface they use IE, I have tried to show him how to use real internet mail but he is convinced that there is no such thing, such is the power of Microshaft.
If AOL folds too bad, people like AOL users or MSN users that can't figure out how to use a real ISP are better off the net anyway. The biggest cause of lame web sites, spam (ignorant gullible AOL and MSN users) and blogs might start to go away!
Just imagine AOL and MSN merged what a wonderful thing total control of the rinky dink part of the net by Microsoft. That along with their media positioning will make the Standard Oil monopoly look like a peanut vender. You want info, pay Redmond first, trusted computing my butt!
Going the mp3 route is not the only answer. Just suppose some of the great "digital remasters" of say the great George Szell recordings with the Chigago Symphony came available. Those recordings were on the Columbia label, and the originals were superb. Instead of using compressesed frequency altered crap like an mp3 I would gladly pay for an ISO file of the original that I could home burn. Sure paying a little more for the larger file is not in the plan so far but it would sure beat trying to find them in todays junk record stores. Or ordering them only to find that the company that puts them out for Sony does a cheap ass job of burning them on garbage quality disks.
I hope there lots of rest stops, Pilsener is fast acting compared to Irish Stout. Rather like using a dd to wipe a drive as compared to a linux mkfs. dd can be more satisfying and assure that all the crap is gone like one good pint of Irish Stout, but a Linux format is real quick and dirty, just like 6 or 7 Pilseners.
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As soon as the secretaries find that they can access
Hot Mail with a browser other than IE the VM ware will go away. I have a freind who cannot figure out that there is any other form of internet mail, other than hot mail. When he came over a while ago I had Linux booted and he wanted to show me some stuff someone had mailed him about guitar software. He couldn't believe it when I just pulled up his mail account he really believed you have to run windows IE to get hot mail! Such is the power of MS. I am supprised that MS has not screwed the xml source to block other browsers yet. I suppose if they do they might find some real opposition when people find out that the original ran on freeBSD, and even the coders in Redmond had a hell of a time getting it to work on NT/2000 based servers! Running an emu is the worst way to do things, especially if you want to run virtual nets, or networded linking applications. To create a virtual environment for OS system calls is stupid. I like a little cheese with my wine.
Could be that svg might reap benefits that could really be great for music notation given the right approach. The Recordare musicxml extentions could be used to quickly format music notation through a browser interface using rapid update through svg. Given that then the browser functions could be used along with other parts of the existing interface to speed up the notation gui the possibilities are intriguing. Not that it would replace true music notation software but it could become a very quick way for teachers to send music examples, composers send simple ideas to musicians , and more importantly generaly give those who are musically literate a chance to communicate on the net. There have been several java based designed for this purpose (one out ot the University of Toronto) called JscoreMl. It was not very good because the xml tech at the time was not very advanced. There is no reason why in future advanced xml interfaces won't be able to notate, and send music, right within a browser.
Only in America can a company be formed purely with a business plan based on litigation. The pantent act has become a business lawyers dream come true. Sco's Unix business model is obviously now in the same catagory. Good for you Australia!
Too bad Canada, Americas largest trading partner, hasn't got the balls to stand up and say enough of this bullsquat. I am afraid that the country I love has become another spineless, leave sleaping dogs lie, puppet. The future of commerce and innovation is in jeopardy if we alow this rediculous sherade to continue.
This is why Ms is where it is at, not because of software, but because they have the sucker system down in spades! They spam the hell out of suckers from day one.
Perhaps the way to develope real AI is only possible when the AI creation can request code to enable functions. Strange but perhaps open source is the route to self aware AI.
Flame me if you like but to lock down code might make real AI impossible.
It is possible to alow the bot to lock core code so that it will not self destruct, then if test routines cause problems the parent bot can decide to reject the code causing the problem.
An Ai bot that can program child processes itself based on sample test code might become possible, if we can teach bots to write code! Isaac Asimov and his rules of Robotics are starting to become very important indeed, his vision was as acute as that of Jules Vern.
Scale up Hot mail with MS servers and watch what happens. Same thing as last time. Bill and co runs out and buys a bunch of stuff to run more bsd servers. Hello MS servers are fine for in house business nets but on the net they suckzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! time out!
When you shoot something, It does not hear the sound first. What a concept. This toy is firing iron projectiles so accuracy will be dependant on wind, projectile balance,and stability.
In short it is useless as a sniper or hunting weapon and will remain so. It is obvious that few of the good readers on slashdot know squat about hunting either. You do not shoot unless you are going to kill with one shot any experienced game hunter will tell you that.Leave it to Americans to concieve of a second shot for hunting. In Canada we joke big time about sound shots made by dumb Yankies. No wonder the animal rights people are so set against hunting, Americans hunting deer with assalt rifles. What a concept.
All Americans are not that stupid it seems that is a majority situation though. Mod me down I am flaming you guys for being silly.
If I am reading this right all cisco Ipv4 could get whacked. Given that hubs use Cisco this is freaking serious! Come on Cisco fix it quick there are lots of people who will help. Do not do the old MS head in the sand crap!
During the 911 crisis I wonder what form of cell phone the passengers used to talk on the doomed flight where they rebelled against the terrorists. Are you guys brain dead, passengers talked to relatives on the ground, or is there in flight phones for passengers on some 767s?
Fear and Fud are the stock and trade of Microsoft. Not the Java people. The preceptions of open source being inferior are spread by MS salesmen, not programmers. Any tom, dick head and harry that gets certified in the .NET college mill is spoon fed this tripe by the MS trained instructors. The whole crux of the matter is that MS is out to control digital communication world wide. They have large interests in the Media, they are on the constant lookout to purchase digital rights to content. Did you know that Bill and Steve went on a shopping spree a long time back and proceeded to buy the digital reproduction rights to a huge chunk of the worlds great art from cash starved Galleries. Back then the Galleries did not realise what was going on and just took the cash. If we do not act in concert soon to break the monopoly we are in for an information dark age that will make Orwells 1984 look like a rainstorm at a Baptist Church picnic!
Mic supply dot com a company that I slashdotted a while ago is also starting a musician to musician service. They are rather forward thinking group. I am interested in the possibilities of a system that can send 24/96 originals (big files) between musicians It is another idea whose time is almost here.
A music distribution system where you sell 24/96 to individuals who might want to burn 16 bit cds themselves, there are lots of small musical instrument stores all over the place who would like to do that sort of thing for discerning customers. New tech might help with secure file transfer p2p on a bigger pipe. Nothing pisses off the consumer more than the RIAA model of music distribution. I'm a classical guitarist and do play some things that are really hard to get recordings of, I know that there is room for all good musicians to start to record and distribute their own work. The revolution is here it is just waiting for the old system to die.
No we cannot justify our need to steal, but it feels good to be a pirate and thumb our noses at those who get rich selling the candy we crave. The average Joe in Chicago during the depression gladly took hand out from Al Capone, and many looked up to him as a figure standing up against what everyone loved to hate, Government.
The problem is Government has become dissasociated from people. The media has taken advantage of this and regularly makes villains of polititions, cops, and anyone seen to be in authority. It is ironic that the very media who has made all the money making villains out of polititians is now running to them for protection from a wave of junk media and pop music pirates. "This situation will get out of hand and we will be lucky to live through it." Quote from the Hunt for Red October.
There is going to be a fundimental shift in media and entertainment. As it no longer becomes possible to sell cds to the craved audiance then some other venue will become more important. Music concerts where the stoned out, lighter waving audience makes almost as much noise as the band have just become a bore to music lovers. Real musicians and performers will rule the day again because they are the only ones that will be able to get anyone to actually listen.
holy cow a ghost post bsd can't be dead that anon dead idiot only took a matter of miniutes to reply.
Sounds like a political war between people with gig egos, and axes to grind.
Does this mean that VoIP on Dragon Fly might put me in touch with my hero ELVIS, maybe even get him to sing?
As to how many apps are available.
That is a rediculous question obviously there is very little ported to the TRON OS especially hardware, Win modems etc, etc, etc. There has not been a GNU like structure there to fight the battle. And a battle it has been. So I am sure Tron has very little to offer the oss culture, except perhaps ideas that MS cannot get a software patents for, or if they have prior art rulings may overturn. You can bet MS has gone over TRON with a fine tooth comb decompiler already so if there are any ideas that have been cloned they most likely did not try to patent them. The amount of software for the good old tandy osx (and I do not mean os ten) is most likely enormous by comparison. For more info follow http://hometown.aol.com/knudsenmj/myhomepage/umus
His page has good info about a similar dead OS.
Just remember there is no space in the url ending
Your anon coward post sounds like one from
'Those who ingnore the past.'
The pull of a company that can dictate the future of digital communication and through market manipulation control innovation is the whole problem. IBM is certainly not innocent of this sort of corporate despotism. History is littered with instances of little people with a Napolean complex, sad to say I feel the leadership of Microsoft has become another example. We are all capable of exibiting this kind of behaviour, so if there are no checks and balances like what happened to Standard Oil and Ma Bell then we are headed for an information dark age. All bow to Redmond.
I am not looking to get moded up for this post I am only being realistic.
One hundred percent on target a greater voter turnout of upper income people is the reason. If you look at election stats it is because the upper middle class do not take time to vote that election turn outs are going down the pipes. The welfare and unemployed can voice their disgust too easily (except in Miami), they have time. Lets give that hardworking exec, and MSN using mom at home a way they can get away from the need to waste their time exercising the right.
So you are the guys who write .processor code so I have to keep adding ram all the time. .processor languages like xml are really the invention of an evil computer marketing genuis. Who ever the SOB is, it is getting silly.
The trough is being filled election on horizon.
Almost as bad as Chicago during the 60s, the constituancy of the Seattle area has become an area of special interest to the people who do the greasing. Lets see so far this year; Millitary software 800 million National Security 100 million , I guess they have screwed up with the aircraft industry though. Come on you guys you can do alot better than a puny 1 billion of voter grease. Ok lets see if we can stick it to the competition what was that about SCO? and what about those Germans buying Linux we will just have to see about that too. That will make them happier in Seattle.
Where MS becomes vulnerable is if cheap easy to use pre configed computers can offer everything and more, to the consumer. The only difficulty is the chip manufactures and how they are manipulated by MS. If AOL is about to fall then we are looking at a grim future, where you have no choice. God what am I saying it is already here. I am going to sell my toys, and by a G5 I have just about had enought of this MS bs.
If this statement is true then the implications are that MS really is out to control digital information and communications world wide. If the US state department has a hand in this kind of bull, then things are not rosy for the future linux and open source. Kind of makes you wonder which part of the world is actually "The Free World".
If this is true ignoring open source might make Orwells 1984 look like a rainstorm at a church picnic.
Just the voice of King Richard in my head
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I have a friend who has a real isp but only uses Hot mail because it works with the only interface they use IE, I have tried to show him how to use real internet mail but he is convinced that there is no such thing, such is the power of Microshaft.
If AOL folds too bad, people like AOL users or MSN users that can't figure out how to use a real ISP are better off the net anyway. The biggest cause of lame web sites, spam (ignorant gullible AOL and MSN users) and blogs might start to go away!
Just imagine AOL and MSN merged what a wonderful thing total control of the rinky dink part of the net by Microsoft. That along with their media positioning will make the Standard Oil monopoly look like a peanut vender. You want info, pay Redmond first, trusted computing my butt!
Going the mp3 route is not the only answer. Just suppose some of the great "digital remasters" of say the great George Szell recordings with the Chigago Symphony came available. Those recordings were on the Columbia label, and the originals were superb. Instead of using compressesed frequency altered crap like an mp3 I would gladly pay for an ISO file of the original that I could home burn. Sure paying a little more for the larger file is not in the plan so far but it would sure beat trying to find them in todays junk record stores. Or ordering them only to find that the company that puts them out for Sony does a cheap ass job of burning them on garbage quality disks.
I hope there lots of rest stops, Pilsener is fast acting compared to Irish Stout. Rather like using a dd to wipe a drive as compared to a linux mkfs.
dd can be more satisfying and assure that all the crap is gone like one good pint of Irish Stout, but a Linux format is real quick and dirty, just like 6 or 7 Pilseners.