I can prove I exist, but I can not prove what I am.
Ok, go for it.
If you can prove you exist, you are God. I'm betting someone else if the self existant one.
I'm betting that your opinion won't change mine. Hopefully I won't make the mistake of trying to change you with mine.
Determine what you believe about Christ.
Everything else is opinion.
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Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain, or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
So if you knew that what you held in your hands was the original copy of a book wherein the author claimed to have been inspired by God to write about a Jew named Jesus Christ who claimed to be the Son of God, you would consider it as proof for the text being the Word of God?
The removal of faith from the Christian position, is effective to render it pointless. You can not prove Christ is the Son of God any more than you can prove that you exist... any more than you can prove anything at all.
Determine what it is you believe about Jesus Christ who claimed to be the Son of God and then go from there. Everything else is merley posturing.
If Jesus is the Christ, it changes everything...
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Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain, or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
Our interest in technology explains why so many of us are frequent Slashdot readers
They're Slashdot readers?!? We're doomed....
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Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain, or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
Most of the questions where I was really looking forward to the answer tended to end up involving civil law. I'd be very interested to see if Slashdot could get an interview with someone from that side of the law.
Other than that, I was very pleased with the responses we got. They weren't the short little answers I was expecting.
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Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain, or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
This is known as "Security through inaccessibility"
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Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain, or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
In the beginning... In the beginning was the review, and it was OK. It used Titles for Everything, and as such was a Trailblazer in some ways. It quickly became Old and strangely played the role of The Great Distractor.
The Players
This is Part 2
Part the Third
There is a great deal of discussion about browsers. Some of it makes Good Sense, but sadly much of it Does Not. There is a War. That much is certain, but
Who Will Reign Victorious Will the Aged Dragon obtain the Dentures of Power and regain the Throne of Browser Supremacy or will his son the Flaming Sparrow recently renamed the Songbird of Fire throw down the Gauntlet of "Bring it on"? Only one thing is certain.
Actually, I believe that every person has to determine that something/someone/someidea is a "god" or else they are just fooling themselves.
Most people never get to the point of being comfortable with what they believe or even really knowing what they believe.
I really wasn't trying to force you in any particular direction except toward determining what is the god you believe in. My sig is what it is because I believe in Christ and for me to not proclaim that would be to be ashamed.
Just on the side, I hate it when Christians try to force their beliefs on others. It is Christ that says "I am the way the truth and the life. No man cometh unto the Father but by me." He is the way who declares that we must choose. I can only tell you what he said and ask you if you have taken time to learn of Jesus Christ - a man who claimed to be God.
Sorry for the ramble.
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Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain, or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
I understand the libertarian view. My point is primarily that you have no absolute on which to base these views, they are merely reasonable and good standards in your eyes (and the eyes of others, presumably) When you encounter someone else with differing views, how do you counter them? All you have is the power of your opinion.
Thanks for your post.
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Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain, or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
The government's job is to legislate standards of civilization.
Whose standards of civilization?
Where did they come from.
The problem is, it all comes down to people's opinions. What people think is right and wrong. Tell me who made up the standards and I'll show you who's morality they represent.
As far as my sig goes, you might assume a lot that's not necessarily true. For me, it's about knowing Jesus Christ and not what people do in his name. Religion has become a mess and I'll admit that most people who profess to be Christians would not know Christ if they met him on the streets. I hope I would.
I enjoy discussions like this though. If you have some other thoughts, I'd love to keep this thread alive.
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Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain, or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
I don't want to get into a big debate over this because I agree with many of your points. But having said that, there is one particular aspect of what you said that I disagree with vehemently.
Here's the phrase: solving the problems by attempting to legislate morality is both ineffective and dangerous.
It may be that our definition of morality differs, but here's the one I'm using: A system of ideas of right and wrong conduct
With that definition, all laws legislate someone's morality. Someone believes that the law is promoting their idea of "good" or "right". Someone believes it's good if people can play any game they want, someone else believes otherwise. Someone believes homosexuals should be able to marry. That this would be "good". To them it is moral. Someone else says "No, my God says it's immoral." Neither side hates morality, they just believe in different moralities.
I only say this, because up until that statement you weren't using rhetoric to your advantage. From that point on, whether your points were valid or not, you were deriding someone else's morailty in the name of your own.
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Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain, or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
"If you have read an introductory book or two about Python programming, but you are far from being an expert, then you will benefit a lot from reading this book. If you are a competent programmer in any other language, you will benefit from this book. If you are an expert Python programmer, you will also benefit from this book."
If you are a practitioner of voodoo and merely handle large pythons, you will benefit from this book.
If you are a undersea explorer but have heard of pythons....
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Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain, or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
The plane couldn't glide far at all, and I don't think the soft wall is necessarily that close to something you'd want to target. It might be a over a mile from the edge...
Just checked http://www.m-w.com and confirmed that Architecting is not, in fact, a real word. For that matter neither is "chunking". Unfortunately, neither is "hork" or "hoark" (as in "That rat-bastard just horked my last twinkie!"). Fortunately, "hosed" is acceptable.
Unfortunately according to http://www.m-w.com "twinkie" is also not a word. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that rat-bastard isn't either.
Already possible with UPS. I've only used it once, but it worked great and ran to within 5 minutes of their projected arrival time. It is a bit expensive, but when you gotta have it, you gotta have it...
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Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain, or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
There is something severely wrong about financially crippling somebody for life.
Not if he was guilty of actually causing that amount of damages. As it is though, punishing him for potential damages is just plain wrong. (if that is in fact what they are doing. my knowledge of this case is based on 5 minutes of investigation, and what I've gathered from slashdot posts.... so basically I know nothing)
Also, I have no idea whether $500/month is crippling based on his salary.
you will be required to select from the matrix 23 OSS programmers, 16 American, 7 Finnish,
Even in our fantasies, we don't get girls...
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Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain, or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain, or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
Slashdot Mirror
You remember.. the people who don't believe in evolution? Or stem cell research? Or cloning?
Yeah, those three are the same.
Do you mean that they don't believe cloning is possible, or that they don't believe evolution is moral?
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I don't believe in you...
The existence of God is an axiomatic truth.
The existence of a Savior is not.
I can prove I exist, but I can not prove what I am.
Ok, go for it.
If you can prove you exist, you are God. I'm betting someone else if the self existant one.
I'm betting that your opinion won't change mine. Hopefully I won't make the mistake of trying to change you with mine.
Determine what you believe about Christ.
Everything else is opinion.
--
Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain,
or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
So if you knew that what you held in your hands was the original copy of a book wherein the author claimed to have been inspired by God to write about a Jew named Jesus Christ who claimed to be the Son of God, you would consider it as proof for the text being the Word of God?
The removal of faith from the Christian position, is effective to render it pointless. You can not prove Christ is the Son of God any more than you can prove that you exist... any more than you can prove anything at all.
Determine what it is you believe about Jesus Christ who claimed to be the Son of God and then go from there. Everything else is merley posturing.
If Jesus is the Christ, it changes everything...
--
Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain,
or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
Our interest in technology explains why so many of us are frequent Slashdot readers
They're Slashdot readers?!? We're doomed....
--
Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain,
or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
Most of the questions where I was really looking forward to the answer tended to end up involving civil law. I'd be very interested to see if Slashdot could get an interview with someone from that side of the law.
Other than that, I was very pleased with the responses we got. They weren't the short little answers I was expecting.
--
Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain,
or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
I think you can effectively remove step 3 from the process.
I'm just waiting to see the screen names of Cobra Commander, Destro, and Professor Mindbender discussing this on Slashdot.
Arise Serpentor....arise...
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It justs gets weirder and weirder every day...
Consider yourself the recipient of a virtual mod point.
This is known as "Security through inaccessibility"
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Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain,
or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
Uhmmm....where are they sending the top 10 rants?
In the beginning...
In the beginning was the review, and it was OK. It used Titles for Everything, and as such was a Trailblazer in some ways. It quickly became Old and strangely played the role of The Great Distractor.
The Players
This is Part 2
Part the Third
There is a great deal of discussion about browsers. Some of it makes Good Sense, but sadly much of it Does Not. There is a War. That much is certain, but
Who Will Reign Victorious
Will the Aged Dragon obtain the Dentures of Power and regain the Throne of Browser Supremacy or will his son the Flaming Sparrow recently renamed the Songbird of Fire throw down the Gauntlet of "Bring it on"? Only one thing is certain.
The Reviewer is unsure
Finis
Actually, I believe that every person has to determine that something/someone/someidea is a "god" or else they are just fooling themselves.
Most people never get to the point of being comfortable with what they believe or even really knowing what they believe.
I really wasn't trying to force you in any particular direction except toward determining what is the god you believe in. My sig is what it is because I believe in Christ and for me to not proclaim that would be to be ashamed.
Just on the side, I hate it when Christians try to force their beliefs on others. It is Christ that says "I am the way the truth and the life. No man cometh unto the Father but by me." He is the way who declares that we must choose. I can only tell you what he said and ask you if you have taken time to learn of Jesus Christ - a man who claimed to be God.
Sorry for the ramble.
--
Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain,
or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
I understand the libertarian view. My point is primarily that you have no absolute on which to base these views, they are merely reasonable and good standards in your eyes (and the eyes of others, presumably) When you encounter someone else with differing views, how do you counter them? All you have is the power of your opinion.
Thanks for your post.
--
Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain,
or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
The government's job is to legislate standards of civilization.
Whose standards of civilization?
Where did they come from.
The problem is, it all comes down to people's opinions. What people think is right and wrong. Tell me who made up the standards and I'll show you who's morality they represent.
As far as my sig goes, you might assume a lot that's not necessarily true. For me, it's about knowing Jesus Christ and not what people do in his name. Religion has become a mess and I'll admit that most people who profess to be Christians would not know Christ if they met him on the streets. I hope I would.
I enjoy discussions like this though. If you have some other thoughts, I'd love to keep this thread alive.
--
Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain,
or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
I don't want to get into a big debate over this because I agree with many of your points. But having said that, there is one particular aspect of what you said that I disagree with vehemently.
Here's the phrase: solving the problems by attempting to legislate morality is both ineffective and dangerous.
It may be that our definition of morality differs, but here's the one I'm using: A system of ideas of right and wrong conduct
With that definition, all laws legislate someone's morality. Someone believes that the law is promoting their idea of "good" or "right". Someone believes it's good if people can play any game they want, someone else believes otherwise. Someone believes homosexuals should be able to marry. That this would be "good". To them it is moral. Someone else says "No, my God says it's immoral." Neither side hates morality, they just believe in different moralities.
I only say this, because up until that statement you weren't using rhetoric to your advantage. From that point on, whether your points were valid or not, you were deriding someone else's morailty in the name of your own.
--
Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain,
or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
"If you have read an introductory book or two about Python programming, but you are far from being an expert, then you will benefit a lot from reading this book. If you are a competent programmer in any other language, you will benefit from this book. If you are an expert Python programmer, you will also benefit from this book."
If you are a practitioner of voodoo and merely handle large pythons, you will benefit from this book.
If you are a undersea explorer but have heard of pythons....
--
Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain,
or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
The plane couldn't glide far at all, and I don't think the soft wall is necessarily that close to something you'd want to target. It might be a over a mile from the edge...
Either way, it's all pretty subjective...
Wouldn't that also kill your engines?
Just checked http://www.m-w.com and confirmed that Architecting is not, in fact, a real word. For that matter neither is "chunking". Unfortunately, neither is "hork" or "hoark" (as in "That rat-bastard just horked my last twinkie!"). Fortunately, "hosed" is acceptable.
Unfortunately according to http://www.m-w.com "twinkie" is also not a word. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that rat-bastard isn't either.
Already possible with UPS.
I've only used it once, but it worked great and ran to within 5 minutes of their projected arrival time.
It is a bit expensive, but when you gotta have it, you gotta have it...
--
Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain,
or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
There is something severely wrong about financially crippling somebody for life.
Not if he was guilty of actually causing that amount of damages. As it is though, punishing him for potential damages is just plain wrong. (if that is in fact what they are doing. my knowledge of this case is based on 5 minutes of investigation, and what I've gathered from slashdot posts.... so basically I know nothing)
Also, I have no idea whether $500/month is crippling based on his salary.
you will be required to select from the matrix 23 OSS programmers, 16 American, 7 Finnish,
Even in our fantasies, we don't get girls...
--
Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain,
or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
You and me, and a vcr pulled by a powerboat.
OK, but I'm driving the boat...
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Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain,
or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
ECHOLON-triggering expressions". :)
;)
What is this E-COLON thing? Tracking information through the bowels of the internet? Sounds like something the government would fund
And if the bank had just had better security, I wouldn't be a criminal today... ;)
You could just as easily flip it around. If Cohen hadn't tried to defraud Verisign, then Verisign wouldn't be in this position.